Stop Seat Belt Tickets!

[TheSuperBlackMan]

I disagree with the statement that whether or not you wear a seatbelt is your own business, and that nobody else should care. First, in situations where others are in the car, a person not wearing their seatbelt can cause injuries to the other people as they go bouncing around all over the car during an accident. Also, if you are hurt in an accident that someone else caused, why should you receive compensation if you were not taking basic safety precautions that are taught in driving school?

[ryangille]

Since not everyone is required to wear a seatbelt police do not have the right to stop people to check whether or not they are breaking the law. see DELAWARE v. PROUSE, 440 U.S. 648 (1979)

[ohannahdad]

If a law is passed; that means everyone must abide by that law. Otherwise it should be nothing more than a request, or an idea. Not everyone is required to wear a seat belt. Law enforcement, truck driving mail carriers , city and state workers, city bus riders and most important of all school busses, in most states. This is NOT a safety issue it's a MONEY issue. If you are part of the "exempt" group, you are NOT breaking the law! Otherwise $65.00 +!!!..... Bullshoy!!!

[MrBfishy]

First, I want to make it clear that I am NOT a libertarian, but I am a conservative who thinks this video is FANTASTIC. My decision on whether or not I wear a seatbelt is like my decision on which light bulb I use......another choice the government has forcefully removed from me. It doesn't matter how the safety sallies twist logic, the simple truth is that my seat belt (or light bulbs) are MY business and MY business only! Thank you for making this video.

[Ophidianrising]

As long as abortions are legal as to what a woman can do with her body, then I can do what ever I want with my body no matter how stupid anyone else thinks it is. If it is all about saving lives then why is it legal to kill unborn baby fetuses? The government and the people who run it are so backwards.

[machineman0786]

It's such a crock that people here say well you could kill your passenger. That is also their choice to ride in the vehicle with you or yours allowing them to ride in your vehicle. you have the right to refuse getting into a car where the driver or passenger refuses to buckle up. Don't try to use emotions to deny people's freedoms! Selfish decision or not it remains yours.

[machineman0786]

This video is absolutely correct. Our government has way too much power our rights are being taken left and right and nobody seems to be doing anything about it. I have the right to do with MY life as I please. I wear a seatbelt becaus it's stupid not to but I can give you countless other things that are stupid and the government hasn't intervened. This should not even be a question it's our right OUR lives.

[Polarcupcheck]

The best driving is better than the best seatbelt.

[namemydoglola]

@Polarcupcheck Exactly! Wearing a seatbelt is nice but knowing how to fucking DRIVE is a million times better.

[darkhorse000]

Many people are too stupid and need 'help' to take care of themselves and keep their family members save; to say F___ those people that's their problem not mine, well, I'm just not cold, heartless and selfish enough to think that way.

[order9066]

@darkhorse000 That's an interesting perspective. If I could extend your proposal a little bit, if some people are too "stupid" as you said, then perhaps the government should intervene more? If a driver is "stupid", then maybe the government should force them to take a city bus or taxi cab? As an adult, I own my body, and I hope that you own yours. If you chose to drive with or without a seatbelt, I don't care and no one should stop you and issue you a ticket (tax).

[Ophidianrising]

@darkhorse000 If people are too stupid, then WHY are they allowed to drive in the first place?

[js68fl]

@livin4jesus0225 One thing you seem to forget is kids watch what adults do.

[js68fl]

Although not well-documented, a new vehicle safety feature in the future will be your vehicle not starting until the seat belt is fastened, and if you take it off while the vehicle is in motion your car will totally quit.

[JSasRays]

cops need to catch real fucking criminals instead of ppl who are just trying to live their already stressful life. i just got a seat beat ticket for 114 dollars and im so pissed off. got another 25 added for asking why he cop was an asshole. so i was just deprived of freedom of speech too.

[js68fl]

@JSasRays "cops need to catch real fucking criminals"

They did by giving you a citation for a traffic-related criminal offense. Doesn't get any more real than that.

[JSasRays]

@js68fl you are a dumbass. seriously stfu, you probably know someone who died or some shit. thats their choice and they paid for it. people need to mind their own fucking business. and youre always gonna have to pay an insurance premium wether or not people wear their seat belts. everyone else has to do it too idiot.

[js68fl]

@JSasRays No one I know personally is stupid enough to ride without it. You say people need to mind their own business, but when one of their family or friends rides with you and gets killed because you were thrown into them even though they were smart enough to buckle up, it becomes other people's business.

[JSasRays]

@js68fl damn, everyone you know wears a seat belt? what great citizens! dude. i was driving in my 20 mph in my frikin neighborhood 150 ft away from my house and the cop just wanted to ruin someones day. he even escorted me home to make sure i wore my belt. tell me thats not being an asshole. maybe if i was on the highway with a child in my front seat i'd understand getting a ticket

[js68fl]

@JSasRays So you're bitching because he followed you home instead of giving you a citation? I would've given you the citation and followed you home, just to make you sure you're aware that you are not above the law and cannot pick and choose what laws to follow (i.e. your disregard for a seat belt but yet your statement about a child in the front seat).

[JSasRays]

@js68fl you retard, i got a 115 dollar citation. can you read? you act like you are a perfect citizen, youve broken a law before, everyone has, big or small. so shut the fuck up and stop being a hypocrite. and i would never commit a crime where someone else is harmed. holy crap, do you who want big government, that interfers with the little things in our everyday lives.

[js68fl]

@order9066 "If I don't wear my seat belt, that's none of your business"

First, when I have to pay for insurance premium increases and medical costs for types like you because you don't have the sense enough to protect yourself inside a vehicle, it becomes my business. Second, as a law enforcement officer that responds to your fatality I must go to your residence and inform your family that you perished in a crash because you weren't buckled up. Essentially you're a selfish bastard.

[IBMeddling]

Freedom first!

[USAon3]

@IBMeddling does that include the freedom from paying for idiots who don't buckle up?

[IBMeddling]

@USAon3, You've got a point there.  In that case... Money first, freedom second!

[Milner62]

As far as the red light cameras goes I can without a doubt state truthfully that its a sham for money. I dont know how many intersections here that obtained these lights that I traveled before the camera only to see now the yellow light is so short if it was any shorter it would just be a flash between green and red.

If you look into it back alot of crashes happened at a section they lengthed the yellow light.Its called no mans land, too close to stop but too far away to make it through.

[Milner62]

Didnt watch all of this video but I am an avid believer in choice when it comes to things like this. First off you have the choice to pick what car you drive (for the time being) so why do you have no choice in safety features that you use when driving.

That is one reason why I learned seat belt laws and I can openly admit I removed my seat belts, filled the holes and carpeted over them. No legal action can be brought upon me because the law is on my side in this case.

[Milner62]

@Milner62,The problem I have with this is it is nothing but a money maker. Same as the red light cameras. I dont know how many times ive seen law abiding citizens get stopped for not wearing their seat belt even though a car was speeding through a school zone and the cop ignored them. Hmmm whats more dangerous driving without your seat belt or blasting through a school zone at 50 mph when its listed as 20. It happens and I have seen it happened.

[melars9]

Awesome video .... more rules .more rules . We need less of these stupis rules clogging up the court and just focus on the real laws of life . I ride dirt bike with friends and am way more dangerous ..no helmut. A car is nothing compared ..

[outboardhunter]

We keep losing little bits of freedom in the name of safety.

[js68fl]

@outboardhunter At the same time people are using less common sense on the road.

[ryangille]

I am currently fighting the mandatory seat belt law in Oklahoma's Court of Criminal Appeals. U.S. Supreme Court case Delaware v. Prouse makes it so an officer can not stop you to check your papers. I have papers to not wear a seatbelt.

[mindthreat44]

If any government actually cared about our safety they would make it harder for idiots to get a license. Make the tests more difficult and that would keep a lot of morons off the road, but nope. The government wants those idiots on the road so they can make more money off their asses

[js68fl]

@mindthreat44 Then you wouldn't be able to drive anymore - you really want that?

[mindthreat44]

@js68fl Ummm yeah I would be able to drive if I pass the test.

[js68fl]

@mindthreat44 Right, IF you pass the test. You did say to make the tests more difficult!

[mindthreat44]

@js68fl And if I'm a dumbass who can't pass then maybe I shouldn't be driving. When I took the test in my state at 16 though it was a breeze and took about 10 mins. There is no way in hell someone can know if a person can handle a 2000+ lbs vehicle without killing someone in that short of time! So the govt makes it easy just so they have someone else to tax and ticket. If they actually cared they wouldn't bother with putting seat belts on retards behind the wheel

[mindthreat44]

@mindthreat44 They would keep retards from getting behind the wheel to begin with! So yes make the damn test harder cuz I've seen plenty of idiots who shouldn't be driving from the stupid to the old and to the drunk! Sorry but some people just shouldn't be driving!

[SimplyMel19]

It's really not that hard people...PUT ON YOUR DAMN SEAT BELT AND YOU WON'T GET A TICKET. my LORD!! This isn't rocket science...if you're so tired of getting seat belt tickets then just abide by the abide by the law. since when did it become SOOO wrong that people care about others. Just stop ranting about stupid stuff. You're blowing this out of proportion. You turned a SEAT BELT offense into "nothing higher than a 4 cylinder" Get over it people.

[Schmity57]

Soon we won't be allowed to eat in our own living room because it's not an approved food safe area. Motorcyclists are allowed to not wear a helmet. Buses, semi-trucks, and few others do not have a mandatory seat belt law. I understand it is because, structurally, they are safer. Perhaps we should ticket the automotive manufacturers big time for not making vehicles that are safe enough.

[Milner62]

@Schmity57, down here there was no helmet law for motorcycles. Then all of a sudden it came out but guess what motorcycle sales dropped and everyone was getting rid of their bikes. That hurt the companies so badly here that they quickly reversed the law.

As far as seatbelts, not all seat belts are safe.Mine are aftermarket from sears from 69 and what good are lapbelts when your seat back doesnt latch and never did. So seat belts arent always safe as they put it.

[Schmity57]

I also wanted to comment that I was in my own car, minding my own business, not doing anything really wrong when I got the ticket. I do not text and I have a bluetooth speaker for my phone in the car. The officer was assigned to this task for two weeks. This town has a big drug problem and I think his time would be better spent on a different assignment rather than ticketing people without seatbelts. Now, I will not comply. I don't care how often they ticket me. I refuse to do it.

[js68fl]

@Schmity57 How often they ticket you won't matter because you're obviously on the way to losing your license as it is; one less self-righteous idiot on the road the rest of us will have to worry about anyway.

[Schmity57]

I was the one who always said, "put on your seatbelt" and I tell my husband he's crazy for not wanting to wear a seatbelt. I believe that Seatbelts save lives. I wear my seatbelt almost all the time. Today, I forgot and I was just going to see my daughter when the officer made a u-turn in the middle of a busy street near an intersection, which is considerably more dangerous than me not wearing seatbelt.. He stopped me and gave me a ticket. So, I did get a ticket and Yes, I am venting.

[lizzyluv96]

i think 3:17 is a good idea! u shud hav 2 wear a seat belt if ther r other passengers in the car, espeshaly if u r a passenger in the back n the ris um1 stin infront of u, coz u could hurt them in a crash

[Snorby99]

Using your seat belt should be a personal choice. Actually unreal that it's not.

[Paymenow75]

Let me guess you got a ticket and now your venting

[order9066]

@Paymenow75 I always wear my seatbelt when I drive my car or ride as a passenger. I do not want any employee of the State or city to issue anyone a ticket for not wearing their ticket. Are you angered that New Hampshire has no mandatory seatbelt law for drivers in their state?

[Polarcupcheck]

Soon to be added to the list of seat belt-like violations. Not clipping you toenails short enough. Having sex with anyone but legally married spouse. Masturbation in private. Nose hair visible. Beards. Without a modeling permit. Possession of personality not resembling a sheep to the harassing officer. Being more sexually attractive than the harassing officer. Being in better shape that the harassing officer. In possession of a bigger cock than the small harassing officer. What else?

[OneDollarBook]

The State dopes our children for fidgeting. The State knows what's best.

[Drazenra]

Well, you should consider that, if you survive, you'll probably go to a hospital where taxpayers will spend a lot of money for your recovery. So, you're hurting everyone...

[kennit1000]

Here's the thing.

Riding a motorcycle (even with the best of safety gear) is several times more dangerous than driving modern cars/trucks/suvs while wearing no safety belt...

Yet riding a motorcycle is legal and driving a car/truck/suv with no safety belt is illegal? It doesn't make any sense.

The more dangerous act is perfectly legal, whereas the much less dangerous act is illegal...

[Polarcupcheck]

@kennit1000 I haven't thought of that in a while. Good point.

[reallyamermaid]

I had to stop watching this early in. Specifically when the message "I could care less" was displayed on the screen. "I could care less" is the exact opposite of what you're trying to promote. I don't even get a chance to attack your message. I have to call you on your poor grasp of the English language. "I couldn't care less" would be appropriate for your ad. Intelligent people will not take you seriously if you continue with this. That leaves you with only dumb-asses as followers.

[Kirsti90]

This is really lame. If you have any passengers in your car, you could risk killing them as well as yourself by not wearing a seat belt.

[Milner62]

@Kirsti90, I am curious how can you risk killing your passengers by not wearing your seat belt? Are you implying that those that dont wear seat belts are bad drivers? Or are you implying that your body flying around could injure them?

If its the latter I would say that the airbag has the potential to decapitate people with ease and I dont know how many people to date have been killed by airbags but there have been a good number, safety officals dont want to talk about that.

[monkeygwd]

So how would you feel if you were riding in a car with your coworker, and he was unbelted, and the driver was thrown into you during an accident, killing you? It does not only affect you. If you die in a crash because you are not belted, you affect your entire family. Buckle Up people!!!

[order9066]

Wow, you better let New Hampshire know this amazing fact. That state has no mandatory seatbelt law! Try this experiment, call your car insurance carrier and tell them you want to move to an address in Manchester, -the largest city in the state of New Hampshire and request a quote. I bet your rates just dropped by $20. (mine did when I called USAA) With no mandatory seat belt law, why would that be? I know the answer, but am curious to hear yours.

[js68fl]

@order9066 Saving $20 just so one doesn't have to wear their seat belt is absurd.

[funksta818]

@monkeygwd Nanny laws are more foolish. It comes down to ownership. If you own a car, you have the right to put it in a demolition derby and destroy it by crasing in to other cars. If you own your body you should have the right to do with it as you wish so long as you dont harm others. Alchol is a prime example you have the right to purchase alchol and put it in your own body to the point of being drunk, of if your stupid enough you could drink yourself to death.

[FCGeneration]

@monkeygwd That's a stupid question, I'll be dead lol! Plus, I don't think people should be ticketed; People should be aware that not wearing a seatbelt is putting their life in danger anyway, nuff said

[simpleearthling]

@monkeygwd you ask how he would feel if he were killed in an accident ,,are you a complete cunt or what

[monkeygwd]

@simpleearthling What if your wife/husband/child were killed because of the same scenario? You sound like the complete cunt. You knew exactly what I meant. I am just someone who lost a very dear person to me because they made a very dumb decision NOT to wear a seat belt. He was thrown from the vehicle through the passenger window. If I had been a passenger, I would have been struck by him, and likely killed. Think of someone other than yourself next time you drive without a seat belt.

[simpleearthling]

@monkeygwd my heart bleeds ,,people die every day you fucking melt ,,i know someone who,s ribs broke and punctured her lung and killed her ,,because of a seatbelt so fuck off

[Polarcupcheck]

@monkeygwd Don't blame a seatbelt, your friend was driving poorly. You don't get ejected from a vehicle driving safely, I can tell you that from experience.

I've been the passenger in a car rear ending a stopped tow truck at 20 mph. Going 45 and slammed on the brakes, but still smashed it. The metal towing device was in the window. Nobody was hurt, or cut. I've seen a guy get broad sided by a 30 mph car. Everyone got out without a scratch. No replacement for good driving.

[cwood4ever]

@monkeygwd Thats stupid, how about we outlaw motorcycle riders, they are MORE likely to kill you by going through your windshield

[monkeygwd]

@cwood4ever I've heard of that happening far less than someone in a vehicle getting hurt for not wearing a seat belt. There is no good reason not to wear one. You are FAR more likely to die not wearing a seat belt, than if you were. A friend of mine died because he did not wear one. He was thrown from the car, maimed. Both passengers in the other vehicle were unbelted as well, and they both died. Three lives lost, all of them younger than 30, for no reason.

[cwood4ever]

@monkeygwd Im not saying wearing a seat belt of good. You should always wear one, I'm against the GOVERNMENT telling me I have to in my privately owned vehicle.

[AnthonyMaric]

The tickets are an added bonus to collect money for the state. I think it's logical to give tickets to parents that don't buckle up there children. As for adults, we should have the right to wear our seat belt or not. We've been taught what will happen in an accident if we don't.

A state that should rethink there seat belt law is Connecticut. They have a no helmet law for motorcycles but enforce the seat belt law religiously with stops on on-ramps and exits on/off the highway.

[js68fl]

@AnthonyMaric In addition to the ticket that a parent gets they should get a court order for sterilization since they seem to forget that children will copy what they see.

[Stefnir94]

Not wearing a seatbelt is dangerous to other people as well you know...

[order9066]

@Stefnir94, Imagine how safe we'd all be if nanny-state local, state and federal governments would limit a vehicle's top speed to 20 mph. Then we'd REALLY be safe. How many deaths result annually from "deadly unbuckled rear-seat passengers"? Out of 6 billion people? 0.000000000001?

[Stefnir94]

@order9066

You should have the right to do anything you want to as long as you don't harm other people or risk their lives.

According to a South-African study, you have an 84% chance of harming the person in front of you during a crash.

And even if this statistic was not true, physics don't lie.

If you weigh 80 Kg, are 40 cm away from the seat in front of you and crash at 50 Kph you experience a deceleration of

-241.5 m/s2

You hit the front seat with a force of 4000 pounds.

[order9066]

@Stefnir94, I do not doubt the physics cited in the study you source Sir. On the other hand, I want no government employees issuing tickets if occupants and passengers don't wear safety restraints. I believe an adult owns their body. Final caveat, I ALWAYS wear my seatbelt as a driver or passenger.

[Stefnir94]

@order9066

Fair enough, but If a child is in the car, everyone should buckle up.

Wait... That was your point all along wasn't it?

[getcreamed]

Your data is limited. Take into account various speeds not just the catastrophic ones. What are the chances of dying in an accident w/ vs w/out seat bealts at 20 MPH? 25 MPH? Why are laws based on narrow data such as highway accidents where people are doing 50 or more MPH? Often much faster than that. What are the stats w/ vs w/out seatbelts when there are no accidents? Duh, Z-E-R-O. I've been driving for 37 years and I have never been even scratched in an accident. The law needs revision.

[Stefnir94]

@getcreamed

The 50 kilometers per hour I used in my calculation is not a catastrophic speed.

It's 32 mph.

A crash at 30 mph WO a seatbelt is the equivalent of falling off a 4 story building.

A crash WO a seatbelt at 20 mph is the equivalent of falling off a shipping container.

And remember.

[getcreamed]

One has have to get into an accident first. Do some real data. How many cars are on the road on any given day? How many accidents are there on any given day? How many deaths are there as a result of auto accidents on any given day? What were the circumstances? Stop the hysterics.

[Stefnir94]

According to the NTSB there are about 40.000 deaths each year in America.

20.000 would have lived if they had been wearing a seatbelt.

If an average person drives the average amount for ~50 years, 1 in 100 people will die in a car accident.

But let's leave statistics out of this.

There ARE cases of unbuckled drivers and passengers getting thrown out of cars. They risk harming people outside the car.

That alone justifies the existence of seatbelt laws.

[Stefnir94]

Well since you choose to ignore the statistics I'll make my point without them.

There are thousands of cases of unbuckled passengers and drivers getting ejected from their cars at high speeds.

That alone risks the lives of pedestrians and justifies seatbelt laws.

[erikdavis33]

well then if your the driver make the mother fucker wear the seat belt when he enters the car and the problems solved. me driving around without my seat belt isn't harming anyone but myself. also seat belts can harmful in certain situations. they don't always save lives

[rodjames98]

Good vid, but I have to say this goes further than just collecting revenue, think about it? in the global police state its basically a visual compliance meter, the nanny state can visually monitor levels of compliance by it. If everyone stopped complying they would be in an outnumbered situation, but people wont and thats why we are all in enslavement with things like this.

[standupgun]

...It's all about revenue collection. And reminding us who is in control.

[IxSkatexEnjoi]

You see the thing is in many cases when a person in a car does not wear a seat belt and the vehicle is in a car crash that person has mobility inside of the car. So if u hav a passenger you can actually kill them.

[order9066]

Good point. I see that you enjoy skateboarding. I think all states should adopt California's Senate Bill 994, the nanny-state law that requires skateboarders visiting skateparks to wear helmets and pads. Law enforcement could hand out "pad-compliance" tickets at $200 a pop. It'd be for "safety". Skater checkpoints could be setup statewide. How about mandatory skateboard safety licenses? No license and u could have your skateboard impounded. Yeah. I'd sign that petition.

[bigfitz79]

Who are you hurting? Well let's see. You become unable to control your car once you start to swerve, making you more likely to crash. You become a loose projectile in the car that can injure or kill other passengers, even those that are belted in. And you cost society, including me, millions, probably billions, in extra car , life, and health insurance costs every year to pay for your injuries that could have been prevented by something as simple as a seat belt. So it's not just about you.

[order9066]

@bigfitz79, I just called USAA, my car insurance carrier and asked the agent to produce a quote for a hypothetical move to a home address in Manchester New Hampshire; biggest city in NH. We currently live in Austin, TX. NH has NO MANDATORY SEAT BELT law for adults. The same coverage to insure (two cars) ran $15 cheaper per month. My wife and I both have clean driving records.

Thanks for your feedback.

[bigfitz79]

@order9066, Unfortunately that line of reasoning holds no water. Insurance rates depend on countless factors including quality of the roads, rate of drunk driving, cost of living... you name it. Seat belt use is only one factor, and even for the exact same location and driver, rates vary wildly from one insurance company to the next. The facts are, crashes without seatbelts DO result in greater injury, the costs of injuries ARE passed along to everyone else through insurance or taxes.

[order9066]

@bigfitz79 Google "Key Factors that Influence Auto Insurance Premiums". (it's the last link under "More Info on the right of this page). Age, driving distance to work, multiple automobiles, years of driving experience, vehicle make and model, marital status, occupation, driving violations...says nothing about seatbelt use. New Hampshire has no mandatory seat belt law and has the 5th lowest rate of traffic fatalities in America. You'd find that in the 2010 Statistical Abstract (more info section)

[khyronkt]

just because you are wearing a seat belt does not mean you have more control if you are about to be in an accident.

If the insurance companies are paying more for a person then they can put in their agreements that if you are not wearing a seatbelt it will void the contract you have with them.

[bigfitz79]

@khyronkt, if your insurance company cancels your contract, then society still pays up because you won't be able to afford your medical bills. Either way, society pays. Therefore, society can dictate the manner in which you may drive, just like all the other driving rules. Driving is not a constitutional right, it is a licensed, regulated privilege. The government already regulates all the other driving rules to keep the social cost down, what makes seat belts any different?

[khyronkt]

@bigfitz79

The main issue is not the fact that you shouldn't wear the seatbelt. You should and its studpid not to. Its the fact the government is telling you ,you have to and making you pay a fine. The government should not have that right to tell anyone above the legal age of 18 to wear their seat belt.

[sk8bow]

@bigfitz79

yeah people don't understand the simple logic in seat belts. seat belts keep your butt in the seat so you can control the car. it's simple really but there are many people who think it's just more big government.

all these people think is government is bad, no matter.

god, the ignorance of it!

[getcreamed]

Seat belts cannot prevent a single accident. In the sum total of all driving experiences the difference in all of the seat belt vs non seat belt data might be a thousandth of a percentage point, maybe less. Seat belt proponents are hysterical. Government uses hysteria to manipulate the public into compliance. Fat people cause health inusrance to go up. Do we force them to diet? How rediculous do we get?

[sk8bow]

@getcreamed

fat people cause health ins to go up and thats true., but not wearing your seat belt is dangerous to you because if you are in an accidentm you can bee ejected from your car. now, i don't want to see your body lying in the street. i don't want my children to learn that its ok not to wear their seatbelts. either.

[RemoSC49]

If someone wants to drive w/o a seat belt it's no skin off my nose. Nor should it be for the government. We're adults and know the chances.

[MrRonnierams]

This video is true its just another way for the state to generate revenue. They don't care about your safety and have suckered people into thinking they do. I wear my seat belt but because I chose to not for what state tells me to do.

[asperin]

What harm can I cause to society by not wearing a seatbelt?

[js68fl]

@asperin The most obvious harm is you could kill someone else inside your vehicle when you're thrown into them. The other harm is causing everyone else to have to pay higher insurance premiums and medical costs.

[asperin]

@js68fl

Someone riding with me and allowing me to drive them without me being buckled up is THEIR business. Not the govt's business.

Paying higher insurance premiums? Why so?

[js68fl]

@asperin Until you're thrown into and kill them.

[asperin]

@js68fl

Still should be THEIR choice, not an institution like govt, or any institution. Let people choose how risky they want to live, the truly careful folks would have more chances of surviving, good for them.

[order9066]

Then I have a proposal for your nanny-state logic. I want a speed governor installed on your car so you can't drive faster than 45 mph.

It's for your safety.

Keep your great ideas out of my car.

People in New Hampshire don't get seat belt tickets. Are they dying by the thousands? No.

Again, keep your nanny-state concern out of my car. Worry about your own safety.

[js68fl]

@order9066 I do agree with you that cars shouldn't be designed to driver any faster than the highest speed limit in the country.

[nhia34]

Bravo.... Bravo!!!

[Quatha19]

its just a 25$ ticket over here. and they cant pull u over for purely a set belt they have to pull u over for something else even more stupid, like not signaling right.

[Randythewildhorse]

Folks don't try to post your opposition in the MNDPS because those morons removed every post I have ever done.

Go listen to these people, especially senator steve murphy and you wonder if he read a book called Mein Kampf!

[SuperSaiyanDavid435]

alright this is a question for all of you:

I live in California im 15 and i "wasn't wearing a seat belt" so the driver gets a ticket for $500 is that fair? or is that dramatically overpriced?

(this is minorly hypothetical but still true)

[StripySox70]

who are you hurting? you're hurting OTHER PEOPLE IN THE CAR WITH YOU.

let's say you get in a car accident with 2 other people in the car. you're not wearing a seatbelt, but the other 2 are.

you are shot forward from your seat, unrestrained.

can you imagine the force of impact your body would have against those other people?

so yeah, when you say "who are you hurting", the answer is the other people in the car with you. not to mention yourself.

[ChrisBennett18]

your right this is a type of socialist america is going to become one if obama gets his way, also i want to wear a seat belt because it feels weird not wearing one

[Mobius4077]

I just got a ticket 2 hours ago as of this post for not wearing my seat belt.

I live in San Antonio, and I agree, STOP SEAT BELT TICKETS!

[js68fl]

@Mobius4077 You should be thankful you got a ticket instead of getting hit by another brainless idiot that thinks it's their right to drive. SA drivers suck anyway.

[butterguy217]

Live Free Or Die man that's why I love NH I'm in the same boat as you my friend, I wear my seat belt every time I'm in a car, but what do I care if someone doesn't want to. I always see people riding around on their motorcycles without helmets too... but hey I guess it gets rid of more stupid people... right?

[Quatha19]

i live in Arizona and our law says that if u r over the age of 18 then it is ur right to choose to wear a set belt. also, they cant pull u over if u look over 18 for a helmet. i had a volunteer officer fallow me around trying to decide if i was over 18 for a helmet. so ridiculous. when my mom found out she tracked him down and called him a pedophile for fallowing her girls. they kicked him off the force a month later! Little did they know that I was 16!

[Quatha19]

i ment a helmet..... i live in Arizona and our law says that if u r over the age of 18 then it is ur right to choose to wear a helmet

[cdcrash72]

People are like cattle.. Just point and the herd will move in that direction.. I love this video

[skruf89]

Here in sweden we have free healthcare so if someone gets in an accident its an expense for all taxpayers.

[jess1541]

It's just another way politicians are trying to make money...

[Randythewildhorse]

Yes some day they will make all passengers and a driver wear a racing helmet like a race car driver.

Here in Minnesota they have a mandatory seat belt law and some of the holes on the road are so big in the rural areas that it can ruin your car.

It seems like every year we are losing our freedom because our politicians, insurance companies, and the news media is convincing the naive by lying about concerns for their safety and the naive are just accepting it!

[williamiwu]

AMEN Randy I just moved here and have never seen a bigger bunch of cowards in my life. I live in mahnomen and got nailed for a seat belt the law says the fine is 25 bucks they are trying to get me on court costs, no where in the law does it say anything about any surcharges court costs ect.

[jalexrosh]

@Randythewildhorse You still alive without the belt or are R.I.Ping?