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  • @MatthewLeelev You vegans are the ones looking stupid because you belive this shit and try to push it on others. So, basically, you lose, yet again.

  • Vegans win. Meat eaters lose. END OF STORY! Now fuck off with these dumbass comments.. You are only looking stupid to people that actually know what they are talking about. Now go have a nice heart attack and leave this woman alone! =)

  • @LCHFinCanada I dont think there is one vegan on here that I have talked to that didnt have a problem with killing animals. First they start off by saying eating meat is unhealthy, going vegan is the best way to go, ect. After they are proven wrong, they start saying killing animals is wrong and so on.

  • @IcemanSupaFly LOL, yea, he failed here. I bet he is on another video spreading his bullshit.

  • @gf3030 hes on the natural to eat meat vid failing again haha.

  • @IcemanSupaFly Aw, my fans are here ;) Still so easy to control. You can't go 30 days without plant food, but I wonder if you can go a single day without thinking of me. So cute in your worship... *smootches

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  • @FathomlessJoy stefanson proved we can easily go a year with no plant food. irrelevant anyway we are omnivores.

  • @IcemanSupaFly Aw, my little fan :)

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  • @FathomlessJoy how am I your fan when Im proving you wrong?

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  • @FathomlessJoy thats not an answer. now answer my argument.

  • Anyone ever notice every vegan is an animal activist? They dont like the fact that we kill animals for food, so they make up stupid lies to try and convice others to follow them. Just saying, if killing an animal and eating it is such a terrible thing, then why did God say we could eat them in the bible?

  • @gf3030 humanehominid lost so he ran away and said yt debates are not important. why did he argue for 4 straight hours? it became unimportant when he lost haha.

  • @gf3030 "...Anyone ever notice every vegan is an animal activist?..."

    Actually, there are some that are rather intelligent but keep their opinions to themselves, because they choose veganism for ethical reasons understanding there is no real scientific or health reason for it. You don't find them on YouTube often...

    The vegans here that are making nonsensical claims however, are not that way...

  • @LCHFinCanada "making nonsensical claims" You mean like when you claimed your were a cardiologist? LMAO!

  • @babymuffinsxo Do you even know what the leading cause of heart disease is? Its not meat.

  • I also had my hometowns best health profile at the age of 40. Diet is Low Carb High Fat, like our common ancestors. Total cholesterol 3,9 and everything else perfect. I'm on year 7 now and still feeling great. Lchf works and have done since the dawn of mankind.

  • I don't know if I like your clock.

  • watch?v=XVCtkzIXYzQ

  • im not sick of vegans, im sick of stupid people like you!!

  • What is interesting to me is reading the comments by the vegans and comparing them to the comments left by the meat eaters. One can clearly see the difference between intelligence and ignorance.

  • meat eaters are a bunch of fucking ignorant fucks, you can die of heart desease if you want XDDD that's your choice no one fucking cares

  • vegans are the ones destroying the ozone layer. They eat so many vegetables that there always gassy.

  • vegans are a bunch of followers, eat whatever u want, dont listen to someone elses stupid fucking ideas or opinions, the last vegan that trying saying shit to my face at a event got himself beat down the ground and that pussy faggot couldn't fight back, no muscles weak pathetic

  • @CryptWarrior69 Vegans are the followers? Of what? The government issued food guide? Oh no... That's you. You're clearly just brain dead from getting hit in the head to many times. In case you didn't comprehend this video (it's okay we don't blame you it must be hard to think with brain damage) opinions really have nothing to do with the facts the she is presenting to you.

  • @ferretsarehardasfckk haha ur such a fucking idiot, follower, government issued food guide? my fucking ass a bunch of morons made that guide so they can make money off people like you, brain damage u clearly dont know nothing, just because some fucking guide tells u its bad to eat meat u have to follow it, like i said eat what the fuck u want, u only have one life , so enjoy it, u wont live to see what happens to the world, good bye dumbass

  • @CryptWarrior69 I just came back from the doctor's annual check up. He was amazed at my blood work, every single aspect of it. He was amazed at my weight loss and good muscle tone. He took me off of the blood pressure meds I was on. And then he told me that whatever I'm doing, just keep on doing it.

    All I did was go vegan. And I'm having a blast. 

    Have fun with your diseases, your body fat, your pills, your waste of money, your future heart disease, and your guilt.

  • @keyofdavid888 dude i dont care about you dont tell me ur doctor check ups sick, i have a balanced diet of meat, eggs and vegetables, its all about balancing and moderation, and im not sick, im about to be sworn in as RCMP officer how else would've i passed the police fitness test huh? im probley a lot healthier than youll ever be, goodbye dumbass

  • @CryptWarrior69 police lol

    case closed.

  • @CryptWarrior69 "i have a balanced diet of meat, eggs and vegetables" What is balanced about that? That is a diet of extremes, right? You barbarically rape and torture animals for taste, ignore the health consequences, and then eat a few fruits and veggies to keep you alive? Makes no sense and is anything but balanced.

  • @CryptWarrior69 Well the military police certainly didn't choose you for your articulation! :)

  • humans produce carnosinase an enzyme for digesting meat.

  • Stupid vegans. The only reason your saying this shit is because your vegan. If your vegan, your automatic response is to talk shit about the opposite belief / lifestyle.

  • @universe193 Although I am Vegan, I would agree to this. I try never to interfere with people who choose to eat animal products as I understand because I have in the past as well. What irritates me is how socially challenging it is to tell anyone that I am as they normally frown upon me. I never frown upon meat-eaters rather frown upon the person if they ignorantly criticize me.

  • Interesting that no vegan has provided any evidence that "good nutrition" excludes meat. They keep putting forward the same propaganda.

    The FACT is organic, grass-fed/free-range meats are quite healthy, AND human beings need the nutrients found therein, and healthy meat-eaters get less cancer than vegans. There is no scientific evidence otherwise.

    ... and before the nutjob spams again asking for my credentials - asked and answered. And no, I won't give you my name and address, you psycho.

  • Ok im not a vegan or vegetarian, but at least all we can do is not fucking treat them like shit and idc if they are vegan everyone has their own fucking right to opinion and have you seen the condisions they are in? i mean treat animals right and humanly kill them then yes it would be ok but the practices practiced today are unacceptable so idc if you hate vegans and vegetarians just dont diss them on their believes or you going to end up like fucking god damn hitler!

  • @FathomlessJoy I think what your problem is, you think just because you read something or saw a video that says it is true and not made by peta and you instantly belive it, and ignore reality. You simply think its true so you are right.

  • Just watched Earthlings...still have no problem buying and eating meat.

    Brb because I can make a documentary about parents hitting their children parenthood/having hands is now bad.

  • You're right about a lot, your superhero metaphor was great. But I've heard the clean water problem in the third world isn't by food production but the COST of transporting water and building wells

  • @chemexplosions "water problem in the third world isn't by food production but the COST of transporting water and building wells" Problems that are easily solved if our intent as humans is to live together, not to exploit, profit, and enslave. Americans built one of the largest party cities in the middle of a desert. The technology and science are their, what is missing is the compassion and intelligence.

  • @FathomlessJoy yes you are unnatural. you are eliminating a natural food.

  • @tobiaslarsgunnar I have seen earthlings, and I still eat meat. Why? Because im not going to fall for the same bullshit videos that peta puts up.

  • @IcemanSupaFly haha, hell yea.

  • shaolin monks are vegans. and they're stronger with superior abilities and healthier than any of us. that's why u can't call vegans looking unhealthy or make any fake facts about meat being necessary

  • @Shell123ey have you seen the documentary? i think you dont want to accept the reallity, you must feel guilty, that's the reason of your videos

  • anyone who is still mindlessly eating meat search 'Earthlings Full Movie' here on Youtube.

  • @tobiaslarsgunnar yes, watch earthlings!

    Vegan propaganda, dogma, and old videos is FAR better than the truth!

  • @FathomlessJoy I do logging. Check it out, one of the top 10 toughest jobs.

  • @FathomlessJoy Thats one thing I can agree with you. All the crap they put in the animals at the feedlots. One reason I dont buy meat from the store.

    As for this raping and tourturing? I worked at a slaughterhouse, know the manager who has visited hundreds of slaughterhouses. Does not even compare to these videos the vegans put on here. All the regulations they have to follow, they dont risk the fines by tourturing animals.

  • @oc00011 How much research do you need to do when the facts are right there? Millions of people eat meat and are living far healthier than vegans. Just because you read something on the internet, or a scientist says vegans are better does not mean its true. Just saying, there are millions of people out there that prove science wrong. 

  • /watch?v=THIODWTqx5E this is why i went vegan, bitch.

  • @11JSWIZZ yeah, because propaganda videos are where it's at!

    Because obviously everybody in the world supports evil factory farming, regardless of the fact that it's only mostly americans!

    Yeah, lets give them MORE propaganda and MORE dogma! Lets not show the science that shows meat is healthy, and healthy meat-eaters have less cancer than vegans and vegetarians!

    Or the science that shows most vegans (80%) are B12 deficient!

    Who needs that when we can spam the comments with DOGMA!

  • @FathomIessJoy From years of consuming meat and straying away from non-meat foods our bodies have completely disabled use of the appendix, it sounds cool that our body adapts to that but i say nay, i think its sad that our body has to give up an organ cause we "like the taste of meat". Another thing i do live in the U.S.A. and im not going to sit here and let someone else tell me that just cause science proves means i have to listen. Because if it has a heart, im not gonna eat it.

  • Another moron walks the earth

  • @swk258 oh... celt130 posted lots of research earlier. As did other people.

    I mark all proof as spam though, so we can claim nobody provided any research.

    LOL. I love being me. I'm such a clever troll.

    Propaganda FTW!!!

    Long live crazed militant vegan nutjobs everywhere!!!!

  • FYI, almost all food production in the United States is subsidized. Not just meat production.

    And no Vegans are all about themselves. Childless weirdos who would never have a baby to put down a shaft. LOL

  • and commercials by KFC, MCDonalds....pushing their opinions onto everybody is OK? (like: COME TRY OUT OUR NEW BULLSHIT BURGER IN BURGER KING)

  • Vegans are crazy, childless people.

    People like you used to go to Church where you could get your "religious" fix, now you do drugs, suck dick then when you get burned out you become Vegans.

    Christ.

  • @flanksteak2 Are you saying all vegans do drugs? WTF??? I listen to a lot of bands who are vegan AND straight edge, which means they don't do any type of drug or narcotic. Please get your facts straight before you post an ignorant comment such as this. Thanks, and have a good one :)

  • are you retarded?

  • @VepekaProductions Thank you for using a word to describe people with mental illnesses to describe a person without one, therefore offending people who might know someone who is actually retarded.

  • @swk258 i didn't mean it like that.....it's just wierd

  • @FathomIessJoy You don't eat meat because you're not manly enough to kill an animal.

  • Its not the meat's fault that americans eat too much of it. Farm meat ethically, dont eat it too much, dont buy cheap meat products. We are allowed to eat meat, its just the means of making it that is the problem.

  • @pilchardman101 There is no ethical way to farm meat. Whether the animals are treated well or poor in waiting for slaughter, that's all it is: being led to slaughter. And taking the lives of millions of other creatures for the improvement of one in a lifetime? How hypocritical is that....

  • @swk258 What gives you the authority to judge whether there is an ethical way or not to farm animals?Nothing. It is not an intrinsic wrong to kill and eat animals, otherwise biology is immoral.Vegans live in a world of facile belief, you need to accept that meat is going to continue being eaten, the best thing to do is to make the practice as ethical as possible instead of embracing a rejection of meat that will achieve nothing.The problem is fat americans wanting cheap meat,not meat ingeneral.

  • @pilchardman101 "It is not an intrinsic wrong to kill and eat animals, otherwise biology is immoral."

    You have no proof of that!

    (that is my favorite argument)

    spam, dogma and propaganda ftw!

  • The fact that the natural world exists attests what I have already said. If it is wrong to kill and eat animals, then the entire natural world around you is wrong. Every living thing relies on another living (or once living thing) to survive. Plants take the nutrients from dead plants, animals (including humans) take energy from other animals and plants. That is why it is not INTRINSICALLY wrong. What is wrong is the METHOD of doing this.

  • @pilchardman101 right and wrong does not exist in this world. they're simply created by people. now there's just some fucked up people here. the problem is not the method, but the people allowing such methods to exist. i'd say the problem is definitely certain people. but to argue with such people will not make them to agree with u. more likely it will make them do the opposite. and since youtube is full of arguing and fights i'd say chatting here can only reinforce one's already formed thoughts

  • @FathomIessJoy Humans are merely acting as all other creatures do, but in an obviously more advanced way ie farming. The way that is done is what is wrong, not the act of eating meat. Stop anthromorphising animals and look to nature for the proof you require. You eat the dead matter of plants, oh great. That is morally preferable why? In nature animals eat one another, that is why it is not an inherent wrong, we are also animals.

  • @pilchardman101 those two comments are in the wrong order. 

  • @swk258 We kill and eat meat because we are manly enough to do so. You are not manly and theirfore you go vegan.

    The fact that you are weak is the reason you spend so much time trying to validate your position as being the "better" on to take. It's called a Superiority Complex.

  • @flanksteak2 I'm not weak: I'm disciplined, strong (emotionally and physically), and patient. I'm not saying all vegans are better people necessarily, because some can be completely insincere and discourteous. I'm not being a vegan to say that I'm better, because who's to say that I'm "better"? And you honestly think that killing innocent creatures and eating their flesh makes you manly? A real man is kind and forgiving toward his fellow creatures, so, if anything, it makes you less of a man.

  • @swk258 No, it's much better to let it die slowly of natural causes and get weak and become abandoned as it can no longer keep up with it's herd and then either die slowly on the forest floor or perhaps a pack of coyotes, racoons or wolves might come along and chew on it slowly and begin to eat it while it's still alive.

    That's so much more humane than killing it quickly with a bullet and using it to feed my family for months.

  • @flanksteak2 it's better to let animal live a long life that resembles the natural life the species is made to have. whenever it start to be old already then kill it with most instant way. after it's dead it's fine to do whatever to prepare it for food etc. the problem is that these factories do not even make sure to kill the animal before they start chopping them up. they can't afford to slow down the process of the factory line.stacking animals on top of each other is not their natural habitat

  • @DonMega187 I'm not a supporter of factory meat production anymore than you are a supporter of non-organic vegetable and fruit production.

  • @swk258 No to mention of course the obvious negative impact that farming has on small mammals and invertebrates...unless we are now forced to also see your hypocrisy where you only care about the animals you think are "cute and fuzzy".

    Anybody who has ever run a combine or a tractor knows how many animals get crushed by the tracks. Certainly you're not suggesting a cow feeding in a field kills more mice than a tractor harvesting grain or vegetables?

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  • Hitler was a vegan...

  • you are one sick broad, you still have zits and you think you know so much? Give it a rest blondie, get a life and get a brain and STFU, you have nothing to say thats intelligent

  • @yourfeather that's rich coming from u kid. if ur complaining "she didn't say anything intelligent", then why didn't u write intelligent factual points rather than just bitch at her? a little hypocritical don't ya think. 2nd, since when do zits affect brain function? maybe u need to be on some heavy medication buddy. 3rd, u conveniently didn't mention What it was she said that u think is stupid, nor what the "truth" of it is. maybe its u who needs to get a life eh ;)

  • @FathomlessJoy If you want real facts, get your reserch from someone who is not a vegan. People

    who are lazy and dont do much do not need meat, so they can survive on a plant diet. Or if they are

    active, they need lots of vitamins and suppliments. Personally, I would prefer getting my energy from

    meat than something that is unnatural. It can be done, but who wants to eat shit that you dont know w

    were it came from?

  • @gf3030 What about the opinions of some scientists who is converted to a vegan after they did the research? Search new science documentary "forks over knives". Their supporters includes Bill Clinton who is on a vegan diet.

  • @gf3030 how about instead of yapping at each other & being arrogant & saying some ridiculous things just because u want Ur view to be heard... u could instead neutrally discuss this for *truth*-finding. u could ask serious, sincere questions. u could do ur own freakin research on whether vegan diet is healthier or not, rather say "according to u", or "who comes up with this shit". u could look at empirical data rather than looking at ur life as an example, 1-case studies don't mean shit. peace

  • @gf3030 " Personally, I would prefer getting my energy from meat than something that is unnatural" Actually, nothing could be more unnatural than that rape and torture of animals and the ingesting of their rotting bodies. Those animals are pumped full of hormones, antibiotics, drugs, chemicals, synthetic vitamins, etc. You ingest all of that. You are a walking pharmacy, cowboy!

  • @FathomlessJoy "Rape" ?haha. In nature animals eat each other. We are a type of animal. End of conversation.

  • @pilchardman101 "Rape" How do you think tens of billions of animals are reproduced every year? Watch Earthlings, it shows you what goes on to get their burger on your plate: watch?v=FHA4HNbmDLg

  • @FathomlessJoy Animals like being raped, it's what happens in the wild.

  • @pilchardman101 "In nature animals eat each other." I don't eat any animals. Are you saying I am unnatural?

  • @FathomlessJoy I bet you thought you were being clever asking that. That is called a fallacy of composition. Here's an example: I am male and have brown hair, therefore all people with brown hair must be male. Clearly makes no sense. I didn't say it was unnatural to not eat meat. Not all animals eat meat, that doesn't deny the naturalness of those that do. . .

  • @pilchardman101 "I bet you thought you were being clever asking that. That is called a fallacy of composition." Right, which you made, correct? You said that it was natural for humans to rape and torture animals to eat, ignoring that not all humans do this. So, again, if it is natural for humans to do something, then are you saying it is unnatural when a human refuses?

  • @pilchardman101 One of the interesting characteristics of humans is that we, some of us anyway, can rise above our animal behaviors and consider things like good nutrition over immediate gratification, excellent health over instinct, intelligence and compassion over callous cruelty. Other animals seem incapable of this type of observation. Unfortunately most humans seem incapable of it as well.

  • @FathomlessJoy 'ignoring that not all humans do this.' so youre saying diet class is behavioral not anatomical? how stupid.

  • @gf3030 "If you want real facts, get your reserch from someone who is not a vegan." Trouble is that you, as is any human, are smart enough when you see facts you take action. So, when a person sees the facts about health and cruelty, intelligence and compassion act. Thus many of the facts come from vegans. Here are the facts on the rape and torture: watch?v=FHA4HNbmDLg

    Here are facts about death in meat and dairy: watch?v=yfsT-qYeqGM

    Check it: cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsh­eet/Risk/cooked-meats

  • @FathomlessJoy

    "cancer.gov/cancertopics/facts­h­eet/Risk/cooked-meats"

    Talks about HIGH TEMPERATURES AND BURNED MEAT, just like you burn vegetables when cooking.

    "watch?v=yfsT-qYeqGM"

    Google "rawfoodsos, the China study" proves with scientific data how this study is very contraversial.

    "watch?v=FHA4HNbmDLg"

    Old videos and third world situations.

  • @veganfemaleathlete So your saying the meat industry pollutes more than every gas or diesel engine in the world? Really? Who comes up with this shit? Vegans could at the very least come up with a somewhat educated guess.

  • @gf3030 "So your saying the meat industry pollutes more than every gas or diesel engine in the world?" Yes, it is a fact. In fact not the greater "meat industry" but just the livestock industry in the US, which causes 20% of the world's greenhouse gas emissions, which is more than every passenger vehicle on the planet combined. The source? The world health organization of the UN.

  • @FathomlessJoy Ok, lets review. According to you, if I was a vegan, I would have more energy? Well, I do one of the hardest jobs around, work 12 hours 6 days a week, come home and not even tired. So if vegans have more energy, maybe I would not need to sleep, maybe I could work 24 hours a day. According to you, vegans have better health? Well, im almost 40 years old and never been to the doctor, what does that tell you? According to you vegans live longer? Yet people who eat meat live over 100.

  • @gf3030 you're a fucking redneck, you deserve your clogged arteries.

  • @gf3030 " According to you, if I was a vegan, I would have more energy?" I didn't say for you. There is a chance you are still a neanderthal, right? Just having to let go of your web of dogmatic beliefs may be enough to plunge you into sickness. That is the fear you hold to, right?

  • @gf3030 "According to you, vegans have better health?" Now that is not according to me, that is a scientific and medical fact. I though this was a review, not a rehashed load of useless lies. Sorry, buddy.

  • @gf3030 "Well, im almost 40 years old and never been to the doctor, what does that tell you" I haven't even had a cold in 4 years. But funny you mentioned 40, cause you are right at the age when the problems start, so saddle up, bud. Eating flesh obviously does not kill you right away. The huge health consequences of it are undeniable at this point tho.

  • @veganfemaleathlete haha, great comeback retard. But since you have vegan in your name, I didnt expect much.

  • Isn't agricultural meat farmed in cruel low grazing conditions, because of expansive petroleum machine grain crop agriculture? And grain farming let to monopolize land use because of the sugar and wheat lobbies? And fructrose/ructose and gluten and starch poisoning cause disease because it is violently marketed parallel to the agricultural bestiary; into our media system, the autocracy of food guides, the incompetence of for-profit medicine and corrupt research granting? That's w'my duck thinks.

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  • gf3030 is goof failure3030.

  • Check out the Playboy photos of Pam Anderson who is vegan. She is older than and looks much better than Shelley who made this video. Her photos are real. I am hetero by the way.

  • The meat industry creates more greenhouse gases than ALL form of transportation in the ENTIRE world. Look it up doubters.

  • @swk258 LOL, thats some funny shit right there. You say we people who eat meat are in denial, yet you say vegans are healthier, have more energy, and live longer? Must be very true, eating only veggies is the main cause of mental retardation. You my friend is all the proof I need.

  • @gf3030 Why do you deny that those who do not rape and torture animals for taste can lead healthy lives? I get all my nutrients from plants, period.

  • @gf3030 "You my friend is all the proof I need" Exactly! Just my existence as 100% plant lifestyle disproves the zombie lies. And strangely therein lies your denial. You are in denial of a healthy vegan lifestyle. You cannot stand this fact in your mind, as to admit that it is possible to be healthy without raping and torturing animals shoots holes all through your own lifestyle, or deathstyle rather.

  • @gf3030 "main cause of mental retardation. You my friend is all the proof I need." Don't you mean "you are all the proof I need," Einstein? HA! Meat-tards ;)

  • @FathomlessJoy

    "you are all the proof I need," Einstein? HA! "

    HAHAHA? what an idiot.

    FACTS, Einstein was a VEGETARIAN and ONLY VERY LATE IN LIFE.

    ALL his scientific work was already done when he was an OMNIVORE, OUPS....

  • watch?v=zhlhSQ5z4V4 If you can watch this video and not feel compassion for the slaughtered, do not respond to this. You participate in these activities simply by purchasing the meat products. Peace.

  • @veganfemaleathlete How does eating meat destroy the planet? Thats not even a realistic theory. Its sad people are that stupid to belive that shit, not to mention, you say we are in denial.

  • i don't care if somebody is a vegan. So why the hell do you care that some people eat meat? It's disgusting. It's people like you that cause so much hate.

  • celt130 is the real one in denial here. Eating meat is destroying the planet Earth. Do not believe us vegans? Look into the real research now or stay in deep denial.

  • @veganfemaleathlete

    "Look into the real research now or stay in deep denial."

    Why can't you PROVIDE the real research you are talking about for months now...

  • Have you ever thought of the trees that get cut down to is to grow crops, weather or not you eat meat. We live in a cruel world and has always been that way. Nothing has change because nothing will..

  • That is why i eat animals that are farmed in the us.

  • Omnivores = OWNED!!!! I freaking love you for this. Thank you.

  • sick of your ignorance

  • @MyWordizBond I'm sick of you and all omnivores' denial.

  • @swk258 you have no education, therefore, no knowledge. Education means enlightenment. You're attacking the people who are correct. Imagine what kind of a person you are. All because of ignorance. This makes you closer to the animal kingdom than human society... mudras

  • @MyWordizBond Vegans are not ignorant. They are apparently the only ones who either know the truth or are willing to do something about it. You cannot use animal products and say you love animals, you cannot use them and say you're an environmentalist, and you can't get the same health benefits as vegans do. We have more energy, live longer, and are much more disciplined. As long as we acknowledge our health and fitness, we will be much healthier. Plus, we don't live in denial. Have a good one.

  • @swk258

    " either know the truth"

    Yes we know the story, the only ones who OWN the REAL TRUTH...

    "you love animals"

    Because you do not eat meat you do not kill animals, idiotic and hypocrite.

  • @swk258

    "environmentalist"

    Pastures are natural,man made fields are not+ massive fruit/vegetable industrial waisting.

    Google"Global food losses and food waste"

  • @swk258 ,

    " live longer,"

    Can I see your scientific data on this.

    "much more disciplined"

    Idiotic.

    "we will be much healthier."

    Healthier then who, all the omnivores. Idiotic and wrong again.

  • @celt130 Recent studies show that the average vegan lives longer than the average omnivore by up to 7 years. Discipline is in no way idiotic, it's what most of the world really needs right now.

  • @swk258 Since the average omnivore is actually eating the SAD, this makes sense. Out of the estimated 70,000 centenarians in the U.S., G.B., and Australia, the overwhelming majority of them aren't vegan.

  • @celt130 And YES, omnivores. We're not getting all the cholesterol that you guys get, we have much less of a chance of stomach and colon cancers, we're less exposed to illnesses spread by meat.

  • @swk258

    " we have much less of a chance of stomach and colon cancers, we're l