@unthergunthermunther way to completely ignore what I said. it won;t let me post the MSDS, but you should google "Lithium MSDS"
This explains the health hazards associated with the material. Read that and tell me this isn't a harmful material. Yes it does state skin contact is harmful and no, I did not say you were going to get cancer, i just said it was a harmful material.
this method is a lot safer than nurdrage's method as his method which involves pulling off the end cap can cause the battery to short out and explode, while this method is a lot safer, easier and quicker!
i did this about 2 hours ago, i touched it many times without gloves, i didnt put a mask on, even when i did the water experiment, but after that i gave my hands a good bath of alcohol and my lungs some fresh air, i dont feel anything bad.
@countolaf32 I used one several years ago to cut 1/4'' tubing, we called in an imp, short for Imperal tool mfg. they make several styles of cutters all of them for cutting copper tubing.
@farshad94abedi tinner, I don't know what the composition is. You can store in gasoline, benzene or any hydrocarbon. You can store in methane, ethane, propane, butane.
what I do is I take the battery, I gently peel back the top so I can remove the positive diode and the fuse, and then I open it up wide enough to grab the contents and slowly peel from the middle out, and it comes out very easily, and best of all, you get ALL of the lithium out of it.
@drewnickel Using the method you described you increase the possibility of shorting the battery... And I can assure you that with the tube cutter method you get ALL the lithium too! :)
@AnestisLab I kinda figured that out after I tried mine, and before watching this video. I shorted like 3 batteries so I just switched to yours, cause with mine the lithium oxidizes before I can get it into mineral oil.
@AnestisLab also what are the dangers of electrolytes? I've been exposed to them before and have no ill effects "only for a few minutes at a time in a fairly well ventilated room though"
@msshauna1978 the pipe cutter is a steel/brass/aluminum pipe cutter, it's made of steel. it can easily cut the steel case of the battery. and yes he really does, if you tighten it too much you can un evenly cut it and make it hard to remove the lithium, or release the electrolytes. you have to tighten and twist gradually or it'll be too hard to turn the battery.
@drewnickel thank you much for clarifying. I really made my comment in jest. Did seem like forever though... getting through the case. LOVE this kind of stuff; can't get enough. PEACE!
@vmelkon Actually yes... To avoid this, you can only leave a small gap between the cap and the mineral oil. Any air left inside the container is normally consumed quite fast, forming a protective layer on lithium foil.
@MOTAofCC because, lithium is the most metallic element, it's not as chemically reactive as rubidium but it's much more conductive than rubidium, that's why lithium batteries last 8x longer
how bout lithium polymer... can i get lithium from it? because i saw the video they make li-po using lithium sheets overlapped with a layer of somekind of plastic polymer..
They say 1.5V on the battery, but these generally read 1.8 on a multimeter. I don't know why, but that's always been the case with the ones I've checked.
It's not pure Lithium, but a Lithium salt. I am also a chemist and use lithium in many experiments, this Lithium still works and is just as good as real, pure, Lithium metal. But not as much of a powerful reaction.
@muzzyissoawesome If you could please just refer to previews comments you would make me very happy! I have already answered this question quite a lot of times... :D
Very clever way of opening it. And on a previous comment you said lithium does not ignite the hydrogen by itself as sodium and potassium do, and correct me if im wrong but I think it's possible if the lithium is in powder form, more surface area= faster reaction= more heat= ignition!!!
@rob27222712 Yeah, of course! But it is actually rather unlikely to find lithium in powder form. Generally it is the most boring alkali metal - water reaction... :P
Great video, I was kind of concerned that I would be throwing away about $20 if I tried this but after seeing this video I've been convinced :) Lithium is going to be the second of the rarer elements in my collection.
@TheBramptonMan Yeah! I love element collections! I don't actually have one... My interests are more on salt chemistry rather than elemental! (but I LOVE everey single element!!!) :D
I tried it with two batteries. I didn't manage to get it apart after I cut it, because whenever I tried it got warm, and in one case it made smoke and small sparks. Am I doing something wrong, or is it safe to ignore this? (I did cut the negative end, like in the video.)
@flarn2006 You must be very fast actually! Don't allow the cutter to penetrate very deep in the battery. It is a little difficult to take it apart. Don't be affraid to use force. I use the pliers in the video to take it apart.
@tim0090 Well, phone batteries aren't excactly "lithium batteries". They just contain salts of lithium (that's why they are officialy called Lithium Ion Batteries). Energizer Ultimate Lithium on the contrary contains elemental lithium.
Brilliant. Now these batteries will be gone in a second. Lol.. and I was just reading a book that complained about "how hard it is to get lithium hydroxide." Yes... how hard it is to walk a few blocks...
If you're going a few cells in a go, I'd suggest getting a cutter that has a butterfly nut for tightening it up. Those one's with knurled thumb screws work but, if you have to apply a lot of force repeatedly, they blister my hands quite effectively. the mole grips trip works quite well. i got my second cell open in about the same amount of time it's taken anestis
Very clever method of opening the battery! It worked great for me, and was much simpler than trying to pry it open from the top. Now I've got a nice sample for my element collection :)
@TwoTeasChris Thanks a lot! It will be a great experience to put some detergent and drop a match inside! :-P Just be a little careful because it is kind of exothermic the ignition of hydrogen! xD Good luck!
@MacroVamp Actually NurdRage's method increases the risk of an explosion or a short-circuit. That's why he describes so many possible risks. The only risk with the method presented here is if you touch the lithium foil with bare hands or if you inhale the toxic fumes released. I explain those risks too in the description of the video and I also recommend the use of gas mask and gloves. Thanks for the comment! :-)
@AnestisLab I know :) But I dont think everyone got a tool like that. But yeah, using his method increases the risk of shorting out the battery. Still, great video, and thanks alot.
Dry chemist joke: "What do you do with a dead chemist? You Barium."
Yeah... Floating is an issue :-) Don't forget that lithium is the lightest metal. Well, you don't need to worry because if kept in an airtight container there's no problem. It's tarnish is protecting it from further oxidation. Mineral oil is required to avoid full air contact and water vapour. Petroleum jelly is not recommended because it is difficult to handle and quite messy... Anyway if your container is airtight and full of mineral oil, you won't have any problems. Thanks for watching! ;-)
@AnestisLab So if there is air between the mineral oil and lid of the container, I can't store the lithium in it? Let's say I'm using a weight to keep the lithium submerged also.
@Picapacapopo There is no problem! It's a very small quantity of gases and paraffin oil is not drying easily, so it's fine! There is no need for an extra weight! :-)
I suppose yes! Lithium hydroxide when dissolved in water is not so dangerous. If the concentration is low you can dispose of it without neutralization.
@Picapacapopo Well, LiOH is a precursor to most lithium salts. But LiOH and generally all lithium salts are almost useless in a typical lab. The purpose of this video is clearly experimental and has to do with the reaction of lithium with water and not its products. I have unfortunately not encountered any interesting reactions that involve lithium compounds...
@AnestisLab I've heard of covering lithium metal with LiOH to keep it from tarnishing from the air. Would that work? And how might I go about doing that?
@Picapacapopo No. They probably meant that LiOH can appear on lithium lumps as a product of oxidation by the moisture in the air, but there is not such a method for protecting lithium. Only mineral oil! :-)
@flangoo22 Well, our skin contains water and therefore it will react! This reactions involves lithium hydroxide, which is not so dangerous but can for sure destroy your skin locally, and also emmits a lot of heat that can cause serious burns!
also nice way of opening the batery uch saver then nerd rages... also people let this be a warning to you NEVER LET A LI METAL GET WET THEY REACT HORRIBLY AND WILL ILL U IF U BUT A HUGE CHUNK IN WATER
@fedaikn I agree. I just did some Energizers last night and used pliers. It took forever to get the first open, about 13 minutes of serious effect for one cell. I switched to using mole grips; vice grip, clamping adjustable pliers. That way I could easily squash the top of the next cell, popping the anode out. I actually have pretty much the same pipe cutter and was looking at it an hour before thinking "I'm sure I need that for something...."
@fedaikn I tried his and got the same result, but I got shocked and shorted several batteries. and I had the electrolites release, they dont really react well when inhaled
Hi, I've benn looking on how to do this experiment, lithium and water. I saw that if you put a piece of lithium in water it kinds of start burnin up, but now I see this video and it just smokes itself... Can you tell me how can I make to make it to burn down? thank you
Lithium is not so reactive with water as sodium or potassium is. So, it won't catch fire under its own heat. There are two options: 1. you heat the water in order to increase reaction rate (I'm not absolutely sure if this method works) 2. you use a match or a lighter in order to ignite the hydrogen produced. Thanks for watching!
you could also use hydrochloric acid in place of water. i've done this and if u use enough lithium it usually puts on quite the show! just remember to do it outside. (DUH)
Well, normally you won't use it anywhere. It's more useful inside a battery. We are just doing that for science and knowledge. On the other hand, I'm sure there are people who may want to use it for some specific reason. Personally I'm doing that only for science and research.
questions. i did this and i got the lithium and it started to smell like sulfer is this good? i had a breathing mask on but i could still smell it. also i placed the lithium inside a pill bottle with olive oil and i rapped it in two plastic bags and taped it. is this a good way to storage it? also should i keep it outside? or is inside fine? finally, will the lithium last inside its container or will it slowly tarnish away? sorry for all the questions but i really appreciate it=D thank you.
Thanks for the comment imaball! First of all please read other comments before you ask :-). The smell is not dangerous but is not good either. I advise to do this experiment outdoors. Olive oil is not recommended because it may contain water. Paraffin oil is strongly recommended and you don't need to put all this "armor" on your package. There is no problem with keeping it indoors and it will not tarnish as long as it is in a water free environment (paraffin oil). Thanks a lot for watching! :-D
Thank you a lot! I really appreciate that eherothundergiant! No, they don't contain mercury at all but they contain some sulfate electrolytes. About the gases I don't know very much. You should probably check the Datasheet of the battery. But if the area where you're doing the experiment is well ventilated you don't have any problems!
I did this and could not get the core fully out from the battery since there was a slimy coating on the out side of it as a result i was exposed to it for roughly 5 to 6 minutes is that safe and any suggestions on how to get it out
Sorry, I'm a little late because I didn't notice this comment... Well, it smells terribly but it is not so dangerous. It is not very safe either :-). But no, you won't have any problems. You have to move fast in order not to destroy the battery. And you must have the mineral oil ready because, if you noticed, lithium becomes hot in contact with air.
Unfortunatelly, no explosions with lithium! :-) It is the least reactive alkali metal... So, it will just produce hydrogen gas and steam from the high temperature of the reaction. After sodium, the reactions become more exothermic causing self combustion.
Thank you a lot megafeltch!!! Lithium in STP in water only produces hydrogen gas and steam because of the exothermic nature of the reaction. When heated, the reaction rate increases therefore increasing hydrogen production catching fire under its own heat.
instead of paraffin can I use the oil that we use to cook??
The20284488 2 weeks ago
Is it pure Lithium ?
VieuxJerome 3 weeks ago
also does an AAA energizer battery work to?
unthergunthermunther 1 month ago
@unthergunthermunther way to completely ignore what I said. it won;t let me post the MSDS, but you should google "Lithium MSDS"
This explains the health hazards associated with the material. Read that and tell me this isn't a harmful material. Yes it does state skin contact is harmful and no, I did not say you were going to get cancer, i just said it was a harmful material.
pickford7812 1 month ago
why the hell do u need a mask more specific plz, what happens when you open the battery?? what do we have to avoid when opining the shit??
unthergunthermunther 1 month ago
You can store it in unscented baby oil.
SargentLimpDick 2 months ago
***IMPORTANT*** Can I store it in vegtable oil? Because I'm Keeping it that.
IAmAnAWESOMESamsung 3 months ago
This is the best video on extracting lithium from cells.
Thank you for making it .well done.
Please wear safety glasses while doing this.
meagain2222 5 months ago
Wich gasses does it make when it reacts with water?
007Theuploader 6 months ago
@007Theuploader Lithium oxide and hydrogen are the products, I think.
Voesyy 2 weeks ago
So, the oxygen in the water destroys the lithium?
Wayavas1337 6 months ago
potassium is much more fun :D
blacknight560 6 months ago
By "mineral oil" don't you mean no fragrance baby oil that costs $2?
deltaninjas 6 months ago
If the lithium battery is dead will you still get a good amount of lithium?
stevenmorookian16 8 months ago
what do you do if it gets hot
KewwiNicole 8 months ago
@KewwiNicole if it gets hot you chuck it outside and waite, else it may blow up in your hand.
snakev10v5 7 months ago
Try opening a lithium-thionyl chloride battery.
LanthanumK 8 months ago
@LanthanumK Where do i buy those
Spicyperson9123 6 months ago
why is this your only video?
spotlightman1234 8 months ago
this method is a lot safer than nurdrage's method as his method which involves pulling off the end cap can cause the battery to short out and explode, while this method is a lot safer, easier and quicker!
tech4pros1 8 months ago
can i use another type of oil?
9569VLAD 9 months ago
i did this about 2 hours ago, i touched it many times without gloves, i didnt put a mask on, even when i did the water experiment, but after that i gave my hands a good bath of alcohol and my lungs some fresh air, i dont feel anything bad.
uxa1 9 months ago
@uxa1 Why argue with safety? gloves are cheap compared to curing cancer. You aren't going to feel your skin absorb chemicals all the time.
pickford7812 9 months ago
@pickford7812 u stupid dumb ass theirs nothing involving cancer
unthergunthermunther 1 month ago
Oh it's small so it can fit in close to a refrigerator compressor when replacing or charging it out. Mostly used by refrigeration tech's.
FJvoodoo 9 months ago
how much lithium is obtained through this method per battery
? I want to store 24 batteries worth of lithium.
drewnickel 9 months ago
Breath the
Gas it gives u super powers
colombiak 11 months ago
What is the instrument you used to cut the battery called?
countolaf32 1 year ago 4
@countolaf32 Please refer to (much older) previous comments! Thanks for watching! :)
AnestisLab 11 months ago
@AnestisLab well what is the instrument then i cant find the previous answer?
TheBlabla1996 10 months ago
@TheBlabla1996 It is a tube cutter. It is used for cutting tubes from relatively soft metals. :)
AnestisLab 10 months ago
@AnestisLab thanks i saw it already in the discription
TheBlabla1996 10 months ago
@TheBlabla1996 you fucking asshole its on the video description
Wayavas1337 6 months ago
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@Wayavas1337 thanks i saw it already in the discription
TheBlabla1996 6 months ago
@countolaf32 a pipe cutter
kapoios79 11 months ago 4
@kapoios79 Thanks
countolaf32 11 months ago
@countolaf32 It's a Lithium Extractor...
Hartiger 11 months ago
@Hartiger Hahahahahaha! Nice try, I know it's a pipe cutter. That actually made me laugh out loud though.
countolaf32 11 months ago
@countolaf32 its a pipe cutter
AlecVannoy 11 months ago
@countolaf32 I used one several years ago to cut 1/4'' tubing, we called in an imp, short for Imperal tool mfg. they make several styles of cutters all of them for cutting copper tubing.
FJvoodoo 9 months ago
@countolaf32 you fucking asshole its in the video description
Wayavas1337 6 months ago
@Wayavas1337 You, sir, are the asshole. I merely asked a question.
countolaf32 6 months ago
@countolaf32 pipe cutter
50centpb7 2 months ago
is it possible to store it in hydrocarbonate or wat ever its called, like tinner, etc
farshad94abedi 1 year ago
@farshad94abedi Hydrocarbon; and no, I wouldn't recommend it... It is not impossible though as long as it is dry! :)
AnestisLab 11 months ago
@farshad94abedi tinner, I don't know what the composition is. You can store in gasoline, benzene or any hydrocarbon. You can store in methane, ethane, propane, butane.
vmelkon 11 months ago
what I do is I take the battery, I gently peel back the top so I can remove the positive diode and the fuse, and then I open it up wide enough to grab the contents and slowly peel from the middle out, and it comes out very easily, and best of all, you get ALL of the lithium out of it.
drewnickel 1 year ago
@drewnickel Using the method you described you increase the possibility of shorting the battery... And I can assure you that with the tube cutter method you get ALL the lithium too! :)
AnestisLab 11 months ago
@AnestisLab I kinda figured that out after I tried mine, and before watching this video. I shorted like 3 batteries so I just switched to yours, cause with mine the lithium oxidizes before I can get it into mineral oil.
drewnickel 11 months ago
@AnestisLab also what are the dangers of electrolytes? I've been exposed to them before and have no ill effects "only for a few minutes at a time in a fairly well ventilated room though"
drewnickel 11 months ago
what was your pipe-cutter made of? plastic? I mean, did you really need to turn it 1000 times! lol
msshauna1978 1 year ago
@msshauna1978 the pipe cutter is a steel/brass/aluminum pipe cutter, it's made of steel. it can easily cut the steel case of the battery. and yes he really does, if you tighten it too much you can un evenly cut it and make it hard to remove the lithium, or release the electrolytes. you have to tighten and twist gradually or it'll be too hard to turn the battery.
drewnickel 1 year ago
@drewnickel thank you much for clarifying. I really made my comment in jest. Did seem like forever though... getting through the case. LOVE this kind of stuff; can't get enough. PEACE!
msshauna1978 1 year ago
@drewnickel Thanks a lot for answering! :D It is indeed slightly difficult to remove the lithium foil intact :P
AnestisLab 11 months ago
if i was to put it in a water bottle and cap it would it explode like vinegar and baking soda or coke and mentos?
iBProxE 1 year ago
@iBProxE I guess it would... The Hydrogen produced creates a great pressure inside the bottle! It must be somehow more dangerous though...
AnestisLab 11 months ago
never mind i got it : ]
AlChemicalLife 1 year ago
what are u useing to open it?
AlChemicalLife 1 year ago
Did you get that from your auto shop?
KILLERQUACK32 1 year ago
@KILLERQUACK32 Nope! From an electronics store.
AnestisLab 11 months ago
It floats in mineral oil. It will be partially in air, dude!
vmelkon 1 year ago
@vmelkon Actually yes... To avoid this, you can only leave a small gap between the cap and the mineral oil. Any air left inside the container is normally consumed quite fast, forming a protective layer on lithium foil.
AnestisLab 11 months ago
why don't they make rubedium battery
MOTAofCC 1 year ago 20
@MOTAofCC because rubedium isnt an element?
jordanryaniscool 1 year ago
@jordanryaniscool Grammar nazi are so annoying.
nicxtrem21 1 year ago
@nicxtrem21 something like that.
jordanryaniscool 1 year ago
@MOTAofCC because you would die ;D
great idea though
thekillerhjkhjk 1 year ago
@MOTAofCC because, lithium is the most metallic element, it's not as chemically reactive as rubidium but it's much more conductive than rubidium, that's why lithium batteries last 8x longer
drewnickel 11 months ago
how bout lithium polymer... can i get lithium from it? because i saw the video they make li-po using lithium sheets overlapped with a layer of somekind of plastic polymer..
MarlboroClassic 1 year ago
@MarlboroClassic I really don't know anything about lithium polymer... Sorry :(
AnestisLab 11 months ago
how many volts one battery
MarlboroClassic 1 year ago
@MarlboroClassic
They say 1.5V on the battery, but these generally read 1.8 on a multimeter. I don't know why, but that's always been the case with the ones I've checked.
CoinCollecter2 1 year ago
@CoinCollecter2
I think it's the 'nominal voltage' vs fully charged voltage.
LegendLength 10 months ago
It's not pure Lithium, but a Lithium salt. I am also a chemist and use lithium in many experiments, this Lithium still works and is just as good as real, pure, Lithium metal. But not as much of a powerful reaction.
iamrandom837 1 year ago
@iamrandom837 Well, it is lithium metal but it is not of certified laboratory research purity... ;D
AnestisLab 1 year ago
can you use any oil? PLEASE ANSWER BACK :)
muzzyissoawesome 1 year ago
@muzzyissoawesome If you could please just refer to previews comments you would make me very happy! I have already answered this question quite a lot of times... :D
AnestisLab 1 year ago
@AnestisLab Okay, ill tryy, not promising ill find it :/
muzzyissoawesome 1 year ago
@AnestisLab Mineral oil, thanks :)
muzzyissoawesome 1 year ago
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Vator0 1 year ago
Very clever way of opening it. And on a previous comment you said lithium does not ignite the hydrogen by itself as sodium and potassium do, and correct me if im wrong but I think it's possible if the lithium is in powder form, more surface area= faster reaction= more heat= ignition!!!
rob27222712 1 year ago
@rob27222712 Yeah, of course! But it is actually rather unlikely to find lithium in powder form. Generally it is the most boring alkali metal - water reaction... :P
AnestisLab 1 year ago
how much is the energizer price
MarlboroClassic 1 year ago
@MarlboroClassic Here in Greece it is about 7 euros the pack of two. I suppose there isn't a big difference elsewhere...
AnestisLab 1 year ago
Great video, I was kind of concerned that I would be throwing away about $20 if I tried this but after seeing this video I've been convinced :) Lithium is going to be the second of the rarer elements in my collection.
TheBramptonMan 1 year ago
@TheBramptonMan Yeah! I love element collections! I don't actually have one... My interests are more on salt chemistry rather than elemental! (but I LOVE everey single element!!!) :D
AnestisLab 1 year ago
This is a demonstration, not an experiment. :P
keyloggersfiles 1 year ago
@keyloggersfiles Yes, actually! :)
AnestisLab 1 year ago
can i put the lithium inside oil instead of parafin ??
hitachi088 1 year ago
@hitachi088 Hello! If you would be so kind to look the comments below you'd see that I've already answered! Thanks for watching! :D
AnestisLab 1 year ago
I tried it with two batteries. I didn't manage to get it apart after I cut it, because whenever I tried it got warm, and in one case it made smoke and small sparks. Am I doing something wrong, or is it safe to ignore this? (I did cut the negative end, like in the video.)
flarn2006 1 year ago
@flarn2006 You must be very fast actually! Don't allow the cutter to penetrate very deep in the battery. It is a little difficult to take it apart. Don't be affraid to use force. I use the pliers in the video to take it apart.
AnestisLab 1 year ago
is that a brand new Energizer batteries you are using ?
nonameboyz 1 year ago
@nonameboyz Yes, of course! Lithium in old batteries is oxidized.
AnestisLab 1 year ago
@AnestisLab
i took apart an old phone battery that i had (lipol) and it didn't have any metal in it! do you think this is because its old or what???
tim0090 1 year ago
@tim0090 Well, phone batteries aren't excactly "lithium batteries". They just contain salts of lithium (that's why they are officialy called Lithium Ion Batteries). Energizer Ultimate Lithium on the contrary contains elemental lithium.
AnestisLab 1 year ago
@AnestisLab thanks for the good info :)
tim0090 1 year ago
Brilliant. Now these batteries will be gone in a second. Lol.. and I was just reading a book that complained about "how hard it is to get lithium hydroxide." Yes... how hard it is to walk a few blocks...
Sviolinist 1 year ago
@Sviolinist Yeah... Seems the book was old... :P
AnestisLab 1 year ago
If you're going a few cells in a go, I'd suggest getting a cutter that has a butterfly nut for tightening it up. Those one's with knurled thumb screws work but, if you have to apply a lot of force repeatedly, they blister my hands quite effectively. the mole grips trip works quite well. i got my second cell open in about the same amount of time it's taken anestis
lexichronicle2 1 year ago
@lexichronicle2 Definitely! Butterfly nuts are far more easy to use!
AnestisLab 1 year ago
better hope your cutter doesnt make the cross contact< fire Sucks
dripclatch 1 year ago
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foibos899 1 year ago
pipe cutter! genius!
kintarben 1 year ago
@kintarben Thank you a lot! The easy way! ;)
AnestisLab 1 year ago
Very clever method of opening the battery! It worked great for me, and was much simpler than trying to pry it open from the top. Now I've got a nice sample for my element collection :)
mrhomescientist 1 year ago
@mrhomescientist I love all those element collections! Keep it on! :D
AnestisLab 1 year ago
Great technique!
If I put some washing up liquid in the water to trap the hydrogen in the bubbles and then put a match to it, will I lose my eyebrows?!
TwoTeasChris 1 year ago
@TwoTeasChris Thanks a lot! It will be a great experience to put some detergent and drop a match inside! :-P Just be a little careful because it is kind of exothermic the ignition of hydrogen! xD Good luck!
AnestisLab 1 year ago
@TwoTeasChris yes
cladiax1 1 year ago
can you keep it in cooking oil or will it react with it?
openarms332 1 year ago
@openarms332 Hello, I've already answered that in previews comments so please refer to them. Thanks for watching! :-)
AnestisLab 1 year ago
@AnestisLab ok thank you
openarms332 1 year ago
I recommend this instead, by NurdRage. He also explains the risks!
watch?v=BliWUHSOalU&feature=fvw
MacroVamp 1 year ago
@MacroVamp Actually NurdRage's method increases the risk of an explosion or a short-circuit. That's why he describes so many possible risks. The only risk with the method presented here is if you touch the lithium foil with bare hands or if you inhale the toxic fumes released. I explain those risks too in the description of the video and I also recommend the use of gas mask and gloves. Thanks for the comment! :-)
AnestisLab 1 year ago
@AnestisLab I know :) But I dont think everyone got a tool like that. But yeah, using his method increases the risk of shorting out the battery. Still, great video, and thanks alot.
Dry chemist joke: "What do you do with a dead chemist? You Barium."
MacroVamp 1 year ago
@MacroVamp Well, it's kind of professional tool but anyway... You Barium!!! xD That's hilarious! :-P
AnestisLab 1 year ago
shake n bake baby!
blackpower911 1 year ago
re ma ise kipreos?
hollyxmash 1 year ago
oxi... ellada :-)
AnestisLab 1 year ago
you should probably store it in some petroleum jelly, because it floats in mineral oil
keyloggersfiles 1 year ago
Yeah... Floating is an issue :-) Don't forget that lithium is the lightest metal. Well, you don't need to worry because if kept in an airtight container there's no problem. It's tarnish is protecting it from further oxidation. Mineral oil is required to avoid full air contact and water vapour. Petroleum jelly is not recommended because it is difficult to handle and quite messy... Anyway if your container is airtight and full of mineral oil, you won't have any problems. Thanks for watching! ;-)
AnestisLab 1 year ago
@AnestisLab So if there is air between the mineral oil and lid of the container, I can't store the lithium in it? Let's say I'm using a weight to keep the lithium submerged also.
Picapacapopo 1 year ago
@Picapacapopo There is no problem! It's a very small quantity of gases and paraffin oil is not drying easily, so it's fine! There is no need for an extra weight! :-)
AnestisLab 1 year ago
You should do this in a tub of oil. It costs 11$ for 4 batts where I live and I haven't tried it yet.
vmelkon 1 year ago
To dispose of lithium can I react it with water. Then neutralize the LiOH with vinegar (5% acetic acid). Then pour it down the drain.
AHW214 1 year ago
I suppose yes! Lithium hydroxide when dissolved in water is not so dangerous. If the concentration is low you can dispose of it without neutralization.
AnestisLab 1 year ago
@AnestisLab can you do anything with lithium hydroxide?
Picapacapopo 1 year ago
@Picapacapopo Well, LiOH is a precursor to most lithium salts. But LiOH and generally all lithium salts are almost useless in a typical lab. The purpose of this video is clearly experimental and has to do with the reaction of lithium with water and not its products. I have unfortunately not encountered any interesting reactions that involve lithium compounds...
AnestisLab 1 year ago
@AnestisLab I've heard of covering lithium metal with LiOH to keep it from tarnishing from the air. Would that work? And how might I go about doing that?
Picapacapopo 1 year ago
@Picapacapopo No. They probably meant that LiOH can appear on lithium lumps as a product of oxidation by the moisture in the air, but there is not such a method for protecting lithium. Only mineral oil! :-)
AnestisLab 1 year ago
@AnestisLab Ah, I see. Thank you!
Picapacapopo 1 year ago
@AnestisLab what would happen if you touch the lithium with your bare hands?
flangoo22 1 year ago
@flangoo22 Well, our skin contains water and therefore it will react! This reactions involves lithium hydroxide, which is not so dangerous but can for sure destroy your skin locally, and also emmits a lot of heat that can cause serious burns!
AnestisLab 1 year ago
@AnestisLab thanks
flangoo22 1 year ago
actualy the most reactive element is cesium it actualy explodes i saw a test they put a couple milligrams blew up a fiberglass bathtub
mdragondude123 1 year ago
A: that video is fake. they even admitted it.
B: a few milligrams is way to little to even do much
C: I believe he is referring to the activity series in which lithium is the most reactive. not cesium.
japanesepoptart 1 year ago
Can we use normal cooking oil ?
freedomdoesnotexist 1 year ago
Thanks for watching! For the answer to your question check previous comments please! :-)
AnestisLab 1 year ago
hey i have hte same pipe cutter :D
also nice way of opening the batery uch saver then nerd rages... also people let this be a warning to you NEVER LET A LI METAL GET WET THEY REACT HORRIBLY AND WILL ILL U IF U BUT A HUGE CHUNK IN WATER
cotton509 1 year ago
im too chicken to do this XD
TheKrazySystem 2 years ago
your opening method is quite ingenious. i wonder if nurdrage has seen your video, his method was far more labor intense
fedaikn 2 years ago 11
Thanks a lot fedaikn! This method minimizes the risk of shorting the battery! And good science is safe science! ;-)
AnestisLab 2 years ago
My thoughts exactly .
gehtomacgyver 2 years ago
@fedaikn I agree. I just did some Energizers last night and used pliers. It took forever to get the first open, about 13 minutes of serious effect for one cell. I switched to using mole grips; vice grip, clamping adjustable pliers. That way I could easily squash the top of the next cell, popping the anode out. I actually have pretty much the same pipe cutter and was looking at it an hour before thinking "I'm sure I need that for something...."
lexichronicle2 1 year ago
@fedaikn I tried his and got the same result, but I got shocked and shorted several batteries. and I had the electrolites release, they dont really react well when inhaled
drewnickel 1 year ago
Hi, I've benn looking on how to do this experiment, lithium and water. I saw that if you put a piece of lithium in water it kinds of start burnin up, but now I see this video and it just smokes itself... Can you tell me how can I make to make it to burn down? thank you
cesarpiromaniaco 2 years ago
Lithium is not so reactive with water as sodium or potassium is. So, it won't catch fire under its own heat. There are two options: 1. you heat the water in order to increase reaction rate (I'm not absolutely sure if this method works) 2. you use a match or a lighter in order to ignite the hydrogen produced. Thanks for watching!
AnestisLab 2 years ago
no,the video u were watching is not lithium,its sodium or an alloy,lithium doesent ignite,only if directly burned
misko112100 2 years ago
you could also use hydrochloric acid in place of water. i've done this and if u use enough lithium it usually puts on quite the show! just remember to do it outside. (DUH)
japanesepoptart 1 year ago
Good suggestion!!! If you like something more interesting, then hydrochloric acid (concentrated 37% :-P) is your best friend!
AnestisLab 1 year ago
i'd be curious to know why you would want to get lithium out of batteries. what do you use it for?
bpotp 2 years ago
Well, normally you won't use it anywhere. It's more useful inside a battery. We are just doing that for science and knowledge. On the other hand, I'm sure there are people who may want to use it for some specific reason. Personally I'm doing that only for science and research.
AnestisLab 2 years ago
questions. i did this and i got the lithium and it started to smell like sulfer is this good? i had a breathing mask on but i could still smell it. also i placed the lithium inside a pill bottle with olive oil and i rapped it in two plastic bags and taped it. is this a good way to storage it? also should i keep it outside? or is inside fine? finally, will the lithium last inside its container or will it slowly tarnish away? sorry for all the questions but i really appreciate it=D thank you.
imaball 2 years ago
Thanks for the comment imaball! First of all please read other comments before you ask :-). The smell is not dangerous but is not good either. I advise to do this experiment outdoors. Olive oil is not recommended because it may contain water. Paraffin oil is strongly recommended and you don't need to put all this "armor" on your package. There is no problem with keeping it indoors and it will not tarnish as long as it is in a water free environment (paraffin oil). Thanks a lot for watching! :-D
AnestisLab 2 years ago
Great video AnestisLab! Btw, can you tell me what are the gases in the Lithium battery. Do they contain mercury, or any sulfate compounds?
eherothundergiant 2 years ago
Thank you a lot! I really appreciate that eherothundergiant! No, they don't contain mercury at all but they contain some sulfate electrolytes. About the gases I don't know very much. You should probably check the Datasheet of the battery. But if the area where you're doing the experiment is well ventilated you don't have any problems!
AnestisLab 2 years ago
next someone should put lithium in their mouth and breath on a candle
438426x1 2 years ago
Good idea! xD And drink some water with it... :-P (Don't ever try this! xD xD xD)
AnestisLab 2 years ago
I did this and could not get the core fully out from the battery since there was a slimy coating on the out side of it as a result i was exposed to it for roughly 5 to 6 minutes is that safe and any suggestions on how to get it out
Idevelopinggeek 2 years ago
Sorry, I'm a little late because I didn't notice this comment... Well, it smells terribly but it is not so dangerous. It is not very safe either :-). But no, you won't have any problems. You have to move fast in order not to destroy the battery. And you must have the mineral oil ready because, if you noticed, lithium becomes hot in contact with air.
AnestisLab 2 years ago
i´ve done this lithium metal is soo cool :)
Frresh123 2 years ago
what would happen if you put all the lithium from one battery in watter? would it explode or what
lolimnoteighteen 2 years ago
Unfortunatelly, no explosions with lithium! :-) It is the least reactive alkali metal... So, it will just produce hydrogen gas and steam from the high temperature of the reaction. After sodium, the reactions become more exothermic causing self combustion.
AnestisLab 2 years ago
well ya but youre wrong its the most reactive actually, just least reactive in water tho
lolimnoteighteen 2 years ago
I'm talking about water of course! Because yes, lithium is extremely reactive!
AnestisLab 2 years ago
i have had lithium explode. i threw the whole roll of it in water but it wasn't as explosive as K or Na
but small chunks only somtime explode in water if they are lit on fire first.
btw good video
megafeltch 2 years ago
Thank you a lot megafeltch!!! Lithium in STP in water only produces hydrogen gas and steam because of the exothermic nature of the reaction. When heated, the reaction rate increases therefore increasing hydrogen production catching fire under its own heat.
AnestisLab 2 years ago
can you use olive of vegetable oil instead of mineral oil?
darksideofthebrick13 2 years ago
As I said before, all vegetable and plant derivative oils contain water and small quantities of acid. So do not use them to store alkali metals.
AnestisLab 2 years ago
Can you store them in baby oil im pretty sure its mineral oil with fragrance?
AHW214 2 years ago
I'm not sure but baby oil has small quantities of water or other hydrating substances. So, just to avoid the reaction risk, use heavy paraffin oil!
AnestisLab 2 years ago