@briteness Um, says who? If Europeans "get" jazz more than Americans, how come even long past it's heyday, there are still more American jazz artists of note than European jazz artists? I'm not trying to say that American jazz musicians are better than Europeans, but there's no basis for that comment, in my opinion.
@ArtD42 I think you misunderstood what he really meant to say. In fact, jazz is much more appreciated in Europe than in the US. So many, if not most, American jazz musicians work in Europe on a regular basis because otherwise they wouldn't survive. Despite its influence on most modern music styles, the cultural achievements of jazz have still not been recognized in the US. American jazz musicians are certainly better than Europeans and when I say American, I mean African-American!
@Neidhardt84 First of all, the cultural achievements of jazz are CERTAINLY recognized in the U.S., it's just not as popular in general as in Europe. But plenty of Americans are aware of Jazz's impact and take pride in it. Second, the idea that only African-Americans are capable of true Jazz or some variation on that statement is naive at best, and dated stereotyping about racial culture at worst. Please don't try to make that argument in front of your black friends, if you have any.
Yeah, certainly there's been alot, to my mind, of often silly hackery in the different groups and in choices he's made, but I still have to say that for me ,atleast, the stuff that has worked (again, for me) is simply indelible. Ornette carved out his own territory. Best refer to his early groups to get a sense of that.
Sure... the Atlantic (the label) recordings of the late fifties and (i believe) early sixties are full of stuff. There is actually a box set of all these recordings under the title 'Beauty is a Rare Thing'. Hope you like it, or atleast find something intrigueing! I'm always returning to this stuff.
Was on a 1980 album called OF HUMAN FEELINGS, with Denardo, Calvin Weston, Jamaaldeen Tacuma and Prime Time. Forget the title (maybe SLEEP TALKING, I'll have to find it in my stash), but the main theme is copped from Stravisinky's RITE OF SPRING. The bowed solo Malanga is playing is from the BACH CELLO SUITE #1 in G MAJOR. They also do the vamping THEME FOR A SYMPHONY from SKIES OF AMERICA and DANCING IN YOUR HEAD.
not the best audio quality in the world, but the one of the greatest musicians, in one of the best bands he's ever had. Ornette is my personal favorite musician.
charnett moffett ??
MokshaIS 1 year ago
Great stuff, but why do more Europeans seem to 'get' jazz than Americans?
briteness 1 year ago
@briteness Um, says who? If Europeans "get" jazz more than Americans, how come even long past it's heyday, there are still more American jazz artists of note than European jazz artists? I'm not trying to say that American jazz musicians are better than Europeans, but there's no basis for that comment, in my opinion.
ArtD42 1 year ago
@ArtD42 I think you misunderstood what he really meant to say. In fact, jazz is much more appreciated in Europe than in the US. So many, if not most, American jazz musicians work in Europe on a regular basis because otherwise they wouldn't survive. Despite its influence on most modern music styles, the cultural achievements of jazz have still not been recognized in the US. American jazz musicians are certainly better than Europeans and when I say American, I mean African-American!
Neidhardt84 8 months ago
@Neidhardt84 First of all, the cultural achievements of jazz are CERTAINLY recognized in the U.S., it's just not as popular in general as in Europe. But plenty of Americans are aware of Jazz's impact and take pride in it. Second, the idea that only African-Americans are capable of true Jazz or some variation on that statement is naive at best, and dated stereotyping about racial culture at worst. Please don't try to make that argument in front of your black friends, if you have any.
ArtD42 8 months ago
Love this!
flammesombres 2 years ago
i hear the rite of spring !
kevinm4435 2 years ago
and not to mention... a bach cello prelude?
kevinm4435 2 years ago
Le sacre du printemps
bassrafe 2 years ago
how is this a quartet?
great stuff though, shows how versatile those four thick strings can be!
NPjazzsaxmusic 2 years ago
Sax, two basses (one upright, one electric), and drums. They're awesome!
pjustusxi 2 years ago
Erf, I just noticed that there are THREE bassists.
pjustusxi 2 years ago
is that Charnett Moffett?
MokshaIS 3 years ago
Yes.
ColmOSullivanRed 2 years ago
whats the name of the electric bass player? anyone?
slapit5 3 years ago
the name of the bloke is Al Macdowel. he wes a member of the ornette's Prime Time. He's currently turning with ornette in through europe.
ornettology 3 years ago
sweet thanks for taping and posting
thomasloyens 3 years ago
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random notes
voncoolio 3 years ago
random estimation
19bluesman87 3 years ago 2
@voncoolio "all chaos...order...unknown to thee..."
could it be>?>
MokshaIS 1 year ago
did any one else hear the rite of spring in their somewere
raggers159 3 years ago
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Only bouncing around your limited synapses.
kevinherbert 3 years ago
Bach's, "Prelude to Cello Suite in G" a couple minutes in.
jeph63 3 years ago
Yes, raggers, I discern Rite of Spring as well.
polymath7 3 years ago
appr 1:14. no doubt
Egorend 3 years ago
mos def
kevinm4435 3 years ago
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Musically aimless...uninspiring movie soundtrack fare....but he's made a good living out of it & good luck to him
kevinherbert 3 years ago
Yeah, certainly there's been alot, to my mind, of often silly hackery in the different groups and in choices he's made, but I still have to say that for me ,atleast, the stuff that has worked (again, for me) is simply indelible. Ornette carved out his own territory. Best refer to his early groups to get a sense of that.
personflesh 3 years ago
Personflesh: would you please direct me to the early stuff of Coleman's on YouTube that u refer to.
kevinherbert 3 years ago
Sure... the Atlantic (the label) recordings of the late fifties and (i believe) early sixties are full of stuff. There is actually a box set of all these recordings under the title 'Beauty is a Rare Thing'. Hope you like it, or atleast find something intrigueing! I'm always returning to this stuff.
personflesh 3 years ago
Personflesh: Thanx mate
kevinherbert 3 years ago
Many people who's opinion I respect speak highly of Mr. C, so I give him a lot of latitude. I'm actually getting more tuned in all the time.
My guitar player wrote a song in tribute to Ornette called, "The Lamentation of the Plectognath". It's at the top of my youtube page.
jeph63 3 years ago
i love to listen as much as i love to play.
thank you,paul.
PaulMurphyJazzDrum 4 years ago
As same as ...I put spell on you...or call me...go on and cry!
pikochanchan 4 years ago
THEMANTHEMYTHTHELEGEND
saxcrobaticfanatic 4 years ago
ornette is one serpentine viscero-pychonaut
drcavacho 4 years ago
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this is CHAOS musical chaos.
davidclassg1 4 years ago
Does anyone know the title of this song? I have a recording of him doing at Carnegie Hall in 2006.
LeRoyGuy 4 years ago
they play a bunch of them in this video...sleep talking, turnaround, and some others. a lot of them are on the sound grammar album.
bstepdawg 4 years ago
Sorry, I meant the first one. I'm pretty sure it's not on Sound Grammar.
LeRoyGuy 4 years ago
oh i dunno sorry
bstepdawg 4 years ago
Was on a 1980 album called OF HUMAN FEELINGS, with Denardo, Calvin Weston, Jamaaldeen Tacuma and Prime Time. Forget the title (maybe SLEEP TALKING, I'll have to find it in my stash), but the main theme is copped from Stravisinky's RITE OF SPRING. The bowed solo Malanga is playing is from the BACH CELLO SUITE #1 in G MAJOR. They also do the vamping THEME FOR A SYMPHONY from SKIES OF AMERICA and DANCING IN YOUR HEAD.
chipstern 4 years ago
the first tune played is called follow the sound and yes you were right, this was not a part of sound grammar.
ornettology 3 years ago
a ver horvat cuando vas a tocar asi jajaja
pepoelcaco 4 years ago
buena locooooo, a ver cuando vienen por cba
pepoelcaco 4 years ago
not the best audio quality in the world, but the one of the greatest musicians, in one of the best bands he's ever had. Ornette is my personal favorite musician.
nickybrowny 4 years ago