@ronskidizzle High School in 1954 didn't count goal-tending the same way they did in the NBA or NCAA - don't worry, his blocks in college and pro games were legit by today's rules. His standing reach in his barefeet was 1 inch taller than Shaq's in his shoes! Add in his vertical, and you have the only center who blocked PRIME 25y/o Kareem Abdul Jabbars skyhooks REPEATEDLY even though Wilt was an arthritic 35 yr old! 23 skyhook blocks in one h2h playoff series! watch?v=IYq4CWeWaKg amazing!
@pawsnoblackmamba You're a damned fool. Oscar Robertson was everything LeBrons heartless ass ever dreamed of being. Oscar averaged triple doubles. Read a book man LeBron is the greatest waste of potential ever.
@ryanrpitem theres a few reasons why a lot of nba games werent taped or broadcasted to start with and wilt chamberlain was playing a game in hershey park which was small at the time for an audience of about 3000 which isnt very much. A game that small was probably considered a sidenote and not recorded even tho it turned out to be one of the most memorable games of all time
@ryanrpitem The game when he scored 100 points was only on the radio. Unfortunately it wasn't recorded so only the people who were their ever got to see it.
@ryanrpitem Because most games weren't televised in those days. The NBA was pretty much considered a second-tier pro sport with virtually empty arenas until the 1980s.
@ryanrpitem You're so right, but tha'ts what it is, back in the day it was more important the NCAA and the high-school sport than the NBA itself, why? Because in the past it was more important the studies and sport programmes in university and school than the commerical NBA, the hip-hop and the money.
@ryanrpitem I have 2 high-school games and 5 NCAA games of Wilt Chamberlain, and i only have 6 NBA games from the 60's of Wilt Chamberlain: 1961 (only footage), 1962 (only footage), 1969 NBA All-Star Game, 1964 NBA Finals, 1967 ECF, and 1969 NBA Finals. Then randome footage.
It was a counting regular season game. Back in those days NBA teams often played a certain number of "home" games at alternate sites. Hershey PA was one of them for the Philadelphia Warriors.
Because unfortunately there were no video cameras rolling in that game, only photographers were. The NBA wasn't as popular then as it is now to have video cameras in every game. The video cameras were only present in the featured game for the day (kind of like Monday or Sunday Night Football games featured in the NFL).
He had successes in the playoffs because he know his role, he started passing the ball to his teammate, he started to set the pick in ''pick and roll'' plays... he played like a real center!
When Wilt was a Warrior, the only thing he knew = shooting! The Warriors had one of the worst defense I have ever seen: 1968-1969 Opp PTS/G: 117.6 (8th of 12), 1966-1967 Opp PTS/G: 119.5 (8th of 10)... when Wilt left, the Warriors in 1968-1969 = Opp PTS/G: 110.2 (9th of 14)!
That's why he was a ball hog, he already said that he wasn't willing that much about winning! You played basketball to win games, not to inflate your own numbers... in 1961-1962 he played with 2 HOF and a great PG (Guy Rodgers), he had major successes in regular season and had problems vs the Nats (Hal Greer and Swede Halbrook weren't even playing in the Semifinals) and played against an aging Dolph Schayes at center position!
That's why he was so great in regular season and had difficulties in the playoffs -» that's a fact!
He started to have success in the playoffs when he was a Lakers; by this time, he know his role, he started passing the ball to his teammate, he started to set the pick in ''pick and roll'' plays... he played like a real NBA players! His best performance ever known in the playoffs were with the Lakers because he played to win, not to inflate his numbers (putting great stats)! Like Jordan (Bulls)
@Legend33Larry He started to have success in the Lakers? You meant the Lakers started to have success with Wilt... Wilt won the NBA in 1967, one of the greatest teams ever, and then the Fakers won his first title in LA thansk to Wilt. People who say it was Jerry West who helped Wilt are totally idiots because the fact is that Wilt won a ring in 1967 before playing with West and West won his 1st ring with Wilt. THAT'S FACT.
The Lakers were in the NBA Finals in 1967-1968 (vs Boston) without Wilt Chamberlain (he was with the Warriors), + 1968-1969 (vs Boston), 1969-1970 (vs NY) with Wilt Chamberlain! The Lakers weren't bad! In the 1968-1969 playoffs, Mr. Clutch was hot against the Hawk and the Warriors -» he average over 35PPG in the Semifinals and in the Western Finals; in the 1968-1969 playoffs, Jerry West = 30.9PPG, Elgin Baylor = 16PPG ! Wilt wasn't alone and he played for his team...
@Legend33Larry Title is what counts, 1967 Philadelphia 76ers is the only team during the 60's who could beat the Boston Celtics, and who was the MVP? Mr. Wilt Chamberlain. 1972 was the 1st time the LA Lakers can beat the Boston Celtics, who was the MVP of the Finals? Mr. Wilt Chamberlain. Period. Nor Jerry West neither my ass, but Wilton Norman Chamberlain.
The 76ers were a great team: Wilt Chamberlain played with HOF Hal Greer, HOF Billy Cunningham and Chet Walker (an excellent scorer)... they beat the Boaton Celtics in the Division Finals in 1967 because THEY played/work together extremly well!
When Chamberlain was with the Warriors, he played with HOF Tom Gola, HOF Nate Thurmond, HOF Paul Arizin and Guy Rudgers (lead the NBA in assists 3 times), he wasn't alone...
basket is playing 5 vs 5, not 1 vs 1 as you seem to forget it
Wilt played with HOF like Paul Arizin, Tom Gola, lately Nate Thurman and he played with the great Guy Rodgers (good jumpshot and a great passer -» lead the league in assists 3 time!
His team wasn't that bad! You clearly never played at a great level of basketball or even coach, because it is obvious that a ball hog is way easier to defend than a REAL team (4-7, 3-5)!
I like him but him saying Jordan may not have been able to compete with some of the players he balled with is just plain stupid. Like really wilt was beast but he played with scrubs, people that would'nt even make a high school team today. If Jordan played then he would drop a triple-double wit 50ppg. Guys were much faster,stronger & had higher bball i.q when jordan played
If he played like this his entire career, he would have won way more rings! Jordan did the same thing with the Bulls, the Bulls started to be contenders when he started passing the ball to his teammates. When he was a ball hog, he was a scoring machine (37.4PPG and 35PPG with low assist rating!)…
A team, that work together to accomplish an ultimate goal which is usually to win, is way better than an individual player (Jordan 1.0 and Chamberlain 1.0).
The lane was changed back in 1964-65... not 1966! Sorry bro
•Lane widened from 12 to 16 feet.
Change primarily attributed to the dominance of Wilt Chamberlain (nbarules . net / history)
And it works! 17PPG and 4.2TRB (in the minus) to prove it! From that point, Wilt changed his game style and he started to be a more complete basketball player (he started passing the ball to his teammates, set the pick in ''pick and roll'' plays).
Plus, Wilt Chamberlain had problems in playoffs against Cowens (6'9, 230LBS), Reed (6'9, 235LBS) and Russell (6'9, 215LBS)... FG% of Wilt was VERY low against these guys, because they altered Wilt finger roll/jump shot with ease... imagine Patrick Ewing, Shaquille O'Neal, Hakeem Olajuwon or even Mark Eaton guarding Wilt... he would have some problems in the paint!
On the other hands, Cowens, Russell and Reed FG% didn’t change that much when they played each other!
@Legend33Larry ,Wilt wouldnt have problems in the paint because of those guys,he had quick feet,long wing span, hops.No one could stop Wilt or give him problems. Hakeem is only 6'10,according to Kiki Vandegweghe he dunked on Mark Eaton while Eaton was guarding him,in a pick up game. Wilt was unstoppable
From 1964-1965 to 1972-1973, Wilt had 23.1PPG, 20.7 TRB (wider lane era)...
From 1959-1960 to 1964-1965, Wilt had 40.6PPG, 24.9TRB (narrow lane era)...
Key point: In Wilt's day, the free-throw lane was very narrow, so they took shots from close in. The league widened the lane in order to open it up and reduce the dominance of the big men. Jabbar, Shaq, Ewing, the Dream, and Moses Malone all played their entire career with the wider lane.
@Legend33Larry Wow man you still have much to learn about nba history before you start posting bullshit . In 1965 the lane was still narrow and Wilt had 34.7ppg and 51 fg percentage . From 1966. the lane was wider to to proportions like it is today and in 1966. Wilt had 33.5ppg and 54 fg percentage . So the widening of the lane did not affect his scoring , he was just at that point scoring less becouse the coaches asked him to do it . Wilts best seasons came after the lane was widened .
First, Wilt Chamberlain had a wingspan of almost 10'! It is not that hard to touch the top of the backboard at 7'1 with those longs arms... I don't think, he had better vertical than Doug Thomas and James White who actually touch the top of the backboard (13 Foot Touch).
Second, from 1964-1965 to 1972-1973, Wilt had 23.1PPG, 24.9 TRB (wider lane era)...
From 1959-1960 to 1954-1965, Wilt had 40.6PPG, 20.7TRB (narrow lane era)... There is a difference of 17PPG and 4TRB to proove it!
@Legend33Larry Wilt had a large wingspan yes but so did Shaq . I never said Wilt was had the biggest certical of all time , its very possible James White had bigger vertical .
Lol , yes those are stats but Wilt's shooting attemptes dropped more and more over years not becouse he couldnt score but becouse he passed more and had a better teammates . In 1968 . Wilt had a 65 point game with 30/35 fg made . You do realize how spectacular that is right ?
@Legend33Larry Early in the 1969. season after one game the newspaper reporter said that Wilt was done with scoring and that he cant put a big numbers anymore , next game Wilt scored 60something on the other team . Man , Wilt could do whatever he wanted to before his knee injury , that is before the 1970. season .
@Eric1DRose1 he was back in the day. he was fast and a ball handler just like wilt. imagine if you transported him to 50 years ago. he woulda scored like 200
Shaquille (300LBS version -» prime) had a vertical of 36'... Wilt had vertical beetween 24' and 41'!
Shaq at Orlando and Lakers had one of the best combination of brutal strength, coordination, and speed. He was fast enough to run in the fast break for a alley-oop ahead of everybody else. Shaq slow?
@Legend33Larry Wilts vertical was higher then Shaq's , there is no discussion about that . The man could pick the coin from the top of the backboard and put it back .
Wilt wasn't terrifying in playoffs (playoffs = real men)! His best game ever known were in the regular season and he had some major issues in playoffs against Cowens, Reed... he never live up to the expectation he created in regular season (in 1961-1962, he was 50.4PPG in regular season and 37.4PPG in playoffs -» ouch! !)...
In his series against Cowens (Celtics) and Reed (Knicks 1971), Wilt was outscored, because he wasn't a playoff player!
@Legend33Larry Have you even seen some of his games in 70's or checked the fg attemts? The man didnt even shoot , ofcourse he was outscored . . Half of the games combined he played in early 60's were against Bill Russel , ofcourse he couldnt put the numbers he had in the regular season .
@Legend33Larry ,no Cowens, Reed never gave him problems,Wilt took less shot in the playoffs as his teammates took more. 37.4ppg int he playoffs is still great,you genius. Wilt was outscored because he was asked to take less shots, he was outscored in the regular season also,not just the playoffs in 1971,the coaches asked him to shoot less,learn your history before you comment
Why do you think his coach ask him to stop scoring?
First, he was first an individualistic player, he put great numbers, but when you played alone, you can't win rings! That’s why he had problems in playoffs; it is so easy to defeat a team in a series (4-7, 3-5) with a ball hog!
But when he played for the Lakers, he started to play for his TEAM: he suddenly realized that he had teammates and he started passing the ball, he started to set the pick in ''pick and roll'' plays...
@Legend33Larry ,First off, he wasnt a ball hog,just a great offensive player,big difference. Second, his coach,Frank Mcguire asked him to average 50ppg because the team wasnt good enough. He was asked to score less when they finally put a team around him,and he won his first ring in 1967. In those playoff series where his team loss,the games were close,and his teammates were at fault,not him. Bill Russell played with 9 hall of famers in his career,hard to defeat a team that is just better
@Legend33Larry ,Look at the era. Oscar Roberston,the greatest point guard ever,Mr. Triple Double,didnt win a ring until Bill Russell retired,and he was a distributor of the basketball.You're only a ball hog, if you hog the ball and do nothing with it,just because you're a great scorer doesnt make you a ball hog.,Running backs and wide receivers can have lots of TDS and yards,but if a basketball player has great stats he is somehow a ball hog or selfish.Thats BS. Scoring is a skill
@Legend33Larry ,Wilt was outscored,because his coaches asked him to shoot less,I know Reed outscored him,but everyone outscored him, because he didnt shoot as much,but when Wilt was the main option on his team he outscored Reed,just so you know. Learn your NBA history. Wilt was a playoff player,winning two rings in a difficult era.I dont know what your point is,but Cowens and Reed werent better than Wilt Chamberlain in any shape,form,or fashion
@tuzwol Finally someone who does his research. It's sad at how people say that MJ, LeBron, and Kobe are better scorers than him, but Wilt is just that guy that would dominate this era, especially with the technology they have. Supplements, food, shoes, etc. He's the best athlete ever, but basketball was kind of a hobby for him, in which he dominated with ease. Before someone says he was taller than everyone else....Yao is 7'6, so why can't he dominate? Why didn't Manute dominate? GAME OVER!
you folks really need to stop trying to compare physical statures of players from generations damn near a half century apart. if wilt was 17 in this video, then it cant be any older than 1953-54. for a LONG TIME is was absolutely taboo for a b-ball player to get on the weights, I mean, it was huge NO. So, that was all training and cardio. Wilt ran track also. So, the physique compared to Dwight, Shaq, LeBron, of course it's no contest, but wilt is one of the two greatest SKILLED centers IMO
That is great footage! Wilt was not only tall, but extremely athletic. He was a great track and field athlete who could run and high jump and shot putt. He was the most dominate basketball player to ever play.
This all depends with or without shoes; about 80% of NBA players are listed without their shoes!
Shoes can add about .5’’ to 1’'! The NBA said that Kareem was 7’2’’, but I was surprised when he said he was about 7’ ½’’…
Same thing with Bob Cousy; he was listed 6’1’’, but when he and Bill Sharman played each other in 54’-55’, they didn’t look to be the same height (Sharman was taller). But, they are both listed at 6’1’’.
@tunanorth ....the footage clearly shows wilt it NOT the best of alltime......not even close....he is facing little defensive resistance....his moves are slow and methodical.....his top defender.bill russell,is smaller than lebrons james....russell was 6'9 220....bron is listed at 6'8 and is over 250 lbs.....ron artest is 250 lbs...and wilt won 2 rings...
wilt= 30.1 ppg in reg.season...22.5 ppg in playoffs
"planet shaq part 4"....check that footage....wilts footage is a joke in comparison
Well you have to admit that most players back then were a lot smaller on average, that's why the guy could average like 25+ boards a game and at one point actually averaged 50 frickin points a game but he was also incredibly selfish and record obsessed and the play back then would not translate to today at all, he also was weaker in the playoffs then in the regular season making him inferior to Michael who averaged 33 points in the playoffs and 30 for his career beating Wilt out
@PatrickEganLong lol record obsessed may be true in some parts of his career, but when he was asked to pas the ball more he led the league in assists. I'd say that is pretty damn impressive.
He led the league in assists not because they asked him to but because he wanted to set a new record...again he was record obsessed...however, the fact that he said to himself, "hey, this scoring thing is getting old wonder what else i can do?" and successfully moved on is truly impressive, but that's not what the game is about and that is another reason why Michael is superior, not to mention WIlt had 1 championship, 1! and he scored 50 ppg, how is that possible?!
@PatrickEganLong - Whats wrong with setting records? I can say the same thing about MJ if you want to talk about being recored obsessed, but I don't think either of them were. And as far as him having one championship, uh so what? Championships are a TEAM effort, not just one guy. ROBERT HORRY has 7 championships, more than MJ. Does that make Horry the greatest player ever? Hell no, he just was on good teams.
You don't have to win championships to be a great player that's a fact, just ask Charles Barkley, Dominique Wilkins, Patrick Ewing, Allen Iverson and the others but my point was that he's scored 50 ppg 20+ rpg at one point all he managed was one ring, therefore his stats are not 100 percent telling, I'm not just assuming he was record obsessed there are stories that say so and hey he may not be the G.O.A.T. but Big Shot Rob Horry was a hell of a team player, unlike Wilt
FYI I think Wilt was awesome, but his stats must be taken with a grain of salt, or ten, if you've ever played ball with an inhumanly tremendous human being you can understand Wilt's offensive dominance a lot better, how do you guard that? Back then when the league average in height was a lot smaller you just couldn't, nowadays there would be an answer for him in the NBA, his stats would be a lot more human, still really really good probably, but human
@PatrickEganLong -- How wasn't Wilt a team player? Because he averaged 50? lol if you do the research, that was his COACHES strategy for him to average that much, not his. And you hold his size and strength against him? So what if he was bigger and stronger than everyone else, that's not his fault lol. Wilt just raised the bar for NBA athletes. Oh and Rob horry is good to im not hating on him I'm just saying championshiops are a team stat.
@tunanorth Wilt will never beat MJ. In Wilts prime he was much taller, he could easily score. Wilt is closest to MJ, but overall, in Career point average, MJ wins. Even though Wilt had the 50 point average season and the 100 point game, he was never as dominant as MJ. Yes, Wilt played against talent, But so did MJ. In the 90's, almost every team had an all star. And in the 50's, 60's and 70's, the defense was not even close to the handchecking hell that was put on MJ
@Eugene4251 Why was it easier? Because the competition was easier? True, but was he not a child of that era? Like I said, he didn't take a time machine from the 1990's NBA where Jordan played, and then went back to the 60's and played with those guys. Wilt had the same knowledge, resources, coaches, etc, that everyone else had at the time. Same with Jordan. But Wilt was more dominant. You see what I'm saying?
@ninjajesus81 I SAY THE SAME THING ALL THE TIME, the guy cant control who he played against, all he could do is play against who they put infront of him. iam from philly born and raised, when we talk about wilt we dont even say his name all we say is 100, and everybody knows who your talking about, ppl forget they changed the rules to try to slow him down and he was still killin the nba, he was a center and led the nba in assist when will we ever see that again ?
@prowlifik People say the same thing about Babe Ruth. They say the pitchers weren't as good at the time, so it was easier for him to hit home runs. But the hitters weren't as good either. All players during a specific era have access to the same knowledge of the sport, nutrition, training techniques, and coaching as every other player. Wilt Chamberlain didn't have Phil Jackson, he had the same coaches as everyone else. And he didn't have diet or training knowledge nobody else had, either.
@Eugene4251 actually defences in the late 80's and early 90's gave up a lot of points and were not as good as many people think. look it up back the they all played like the Golden State warriors lol. they scored alot and gave up a lot of points
@MrPatmaster7891 I actually had people who saw him play tell me that he just stood in the paint, because there was no 3 second rule, and used his height advantage over most players to easily score, but I'm not saying he's not talented
@Eugene4251 the 3 sec rule came in because of 6-10 george miken from the mpls lakers, in the 1950's to stop him from playing under the basket, so who ever told you that was a lie, the 3 sec rule was in effect when wilt played so he couldnt just stand in the paint, now the nba did widen the lane so wilt couldnt block shots, and the nba didnt even keep the block shot stats till the late 70's
@prowlifik And you don't forget that Jordan was taking more low-percentage shots than Wilt too. Of course he took more shots to get the same points; he was a 6'4.75" guard playing against guys bigger than him. He was knocked down in the paint. He was bloodied. Detroit had the "Jordan Rules" they implemented, knocking him down every time he attacked the rim. Wilt's biggest competition (combined size and ability) was 6'9" Bill Russell. Wilt was great; maybe second all-time. But he's not the GOAT.
@Phil9019 you do know that bball is a TEAM sport right ? it was never wilt vs bill, the celts had the better team that why they won 11 chips in 14 years, russell was a monster at the defensive end, jordan never had a great team he had to compete againt during his era, the lakers where old and the celts where old, when he did have a team he had to beat it took him 3 years to do it, there is a reason why 55 rebounds in a game wont be broken, there is a reason why nobody will avg 50 because wilt
@prowlifik The reason no one will ever average 50 ppg or take down 55 boards is because there will never be another 7'1", 275 lb giant grabbing boards over a bunch of 6-footers and 6'6"-6'9" centers, genius. He was great; second all-time in my book; but there's no arguing that he dominated the way he did based off of, primarily, size advantage. It doesn't take much to grab a board or throw a ball in when you're six inches taller than the tallest competition (unless you're Yao-like).
@Phil9019 wilt is byfar the number 1 sports icon that gets beat up because he didnt do enough damn its not like he can say well send me to 2011, if you look at the game now there are only a few good centers so i guess if a wilt type figure comes along people like you will say well who did he play against, wilt did his job he crushed every center he played against, he just had the problem that jerry west,elgin,oscar and all the great players had the celts where the better team
@prowlifik He definitely did enough. He was the most dominant player ever, whether it was because of his era or not. If I'm picking a center to start a franchise, it's Wilt (ego and personal dislikability aside) hands down. I've been arguing his case on Bleacher Report for a few days on and off now as the greatest center ever while the other guy is saying Kareem. I love Wilt's game. I just think that Jordan had more skill, being so polished at the SG position and facing larger, rough competition
@Phil9019 the rule changes put in by the nba to slow wilt down didnt do as much damage as the fact that he played for 8 diffrent coaches in 14 years, russell played for red and himself, jordan played for doug and phil, kareem played for pat and the coach he won for in mil. the point is that you need that stable coach.
@prowlifik I understand and agree with your point. That stated some people say he didn't have a stable coach because he was un-coachable and eventually every coach he ever had hated him. Of course this is a chicken or egg argument did he make coaches hate him or did he hate his coaches because they were bad.....the world will never know I guess but his notorious bad relationship with coaches deserves to be mentioned.
@prowlifik The Celts also lucked out by having played in the pre-three-point era. had ther been three point shots in those days, they would have lost possibly three and certainly two of their 60s finals to the Lakers. And in the penalty situations, the celtics were also the NBA "sacred-cow" version of baseballs Yankees.
@Phil9019 "when you're six inches taller than the tallest competition" This MYTH has to die. Swede Halbrook (7'3" 235lbs), Tom Boerwinkle (7'0 265lbs), George Johnson (6'11 245lbs), Nate Thurmond (6'11 235lbs), Mel Counts (7'0 235lbs), Hank Finkel (7'0" 240lbs), Kareem (7'2" 225lbs) and MANY other bigs Wilt faced off against. 61.2% of Wilt's playoff matchups were against Hall of Fame centers and a "50 greatest player" member. Wilt averaged 22 pts, 32 reb, 10 ast vs. Bill Russell (1967 ECF).
@gmn545 Halbrook played for all of two years with 5.5 ppg, 6.6 rpg, and just over 14 mpg. Boerwinkle's best season featured him recording 10.8 ppg and 13.8 rpg. Johnson never earned double-digit points and pulled down ten rebounds once. Finkel scored double-digits in one season and his single-season high rpg is 7.1. Counts topped 12 ppg twice and never got 9 rpg. Thurmond was the only one who was actually "competition." Kareem entered the league well past Wilt's prime. Nice try, but no.
@Phil9019 The "only"? So 6'11 Walt Bellamy wasn't competition? You should look at the "competition" Shaq's dominated in the playoffs. The mighty Jason Collins, Greg Ostertag, Vlade Divac, Ric Smits, Otis Thorpe, Eric Montross, Aaron Williams, Chris Dudley, Luc Longley, Eric Dampier, 35-year old Mutombo, 35-36 year old Robinson, etc LOL. Kareem entered the league and Wilt got 25 pts (9-14 FG) 25 reb against him. Imagine what he'd do to Kareem in his prime then lol.
@Phil9019 But you did claim "it doesn't take much to grab a board or throw a ball in when you're six inches taller than the tallest competition", when (a) Wilt was not the tallest player, (b) the average height of his competition was around 6'10" - 6'11", and (c) 61.2% of his matchups in the playoffs were HOFers. You then appealed to only one (when in fact there was more than one) big man being legit competition. Fact is, his competition was better than that of this era's most dominant C (Shaq).
@gmn545 Halbrook, Johnson and Co. weren't competition. Bellamy, Thurmond, and Kareem were about it, although, the three alone make for great competition. But the original argument wasn't that Wilt was or wasn't the greatest big man ever, something I've already admitted he was; it was whether or not he was the game's greatest player ever, something I believe he isn't.
@Phil9019 You're entitled to your opinion, but don't make false claims in the process (like "six inches taller than the tallest competition). The aforementioned HOF Centers plus Bob Lanier, Artis Gilmore, etc were competition. 'Greatest player ever' is subjective, and Wilt does have a strong case. Heck, John Bunn Award-winning statistician Harvey Pollack declared Wilt the GOAT.
@gmn545 Im on your side, im a huge wilt fan. but since you said false claims, dont mention Gilmore because this is basically a false claim. They played one gam,e against each other, that doesn't count :p
@gmn545 How so? The only stats ive seen from that game are points, and I know thats not what to look at this point in wilts career, you happen to know how many rebounds the both got? wilt 6 points Gilmore 14
@jongib369 When they went head-to-head on the court, from the footage I've seen (which YT has sadly deleted since then). And Wilt got 8 points (3-3 FG), 10 rebounds, 3 assists in 24 minutes. He had 8 FTAs - making only 2 sadly - Gilmore had 5 fouls (to Wilt's 2). Gilmore played 3 more minutes than Wilt (27 min), finishing with 14 points (4-5 FG), 10 rebounds, 2 assists.
@gmn545 where did get the average of wilt against bill in the 67 series? i know all the career numbers between them head 2 head but is there a specific site that breaks their head 2 head matches year by year or even have boxscores of all their games?..it would help me out
@Phil9019 you can never say mJ is the greatest, remember those wizard days ? LOL what a joke. part of being great is knowing when to say when, wilt was an athleat he still holds shot put records and high jump records here in the state of pa, jordan couldnt even make his hs bball team LOL and remember when he tried to play baseball LOL wilt was a BEAST 7'1'' 300lbs and never fouled out of a NBA game, the nba changed rules to try to stop him, he was and still is the goat
@prowlifik you are the dumbest piece of shit ive ever seen in my 22 years on this planet. if you want to grade MJ on A) his wizard days, B) his baseball career or C) his high school basketball career, and ignore the fact that he had the best PPG average of all time and led the Bulls to 6 titles winning finals MVP in all of them, making several clutch shots in order to win the games you may be retarded. You sir are a fucking joke and should never be allowed to talk about sports ever again.
@prowlifik He was 38 and hadn't played in years? Even so, he played better than Wilt did the latter years of his career. Track and field records are null and void. We're talking basketball. NBA basketball. For MJ to go from being kicked off of that team to becoming the GOAT is all-the-more impressive. His being 7'1", 300lbs has nothing to do with talent. It's luck; genetics. Wilt is my #2 all-time, but he played in an era with no one near his size. Russell was 6'9", 215 and his only competition.
@tunanorth : did riley say wilt is the best ever?....i know there's a kobe video where riley says "well to me michael will always be the best of the best".
@squig792000 talent?the best center is howars who is thletic but not other great skills(medium post game,bad shoot).are u kidding?wilt here is 17,when was in nba wach much stronger and athletic and without todays training techinc and steroids!
@squig792000 so u are so fool,i meant howard!and u mean arnold schwarzenegger?u must be completely idiot,u compare a bodybuilder wilt a basketball player?its obvious players didnt take steroids back then u idiot just look todays bodies.if u knew anything about pro-athletisim then u would agree wih me or u can keep living in your fairy-tale.
@squig792000 -says Wilt " he was the only BIg Guy to play back then against all those short white guys.." - You are a complete asshole. Why don't you look up something before you write absolute bullshit. Wilt played against more HOF centers than any man in history. Kareem, Russell, Reed , Thurmond, Cowans. the list goes on but since some idiot who calls himself squiggy -you need to be enlightened.
For all those people who continue to claim russell was better because he won more please note who he was playing with - clyde lovelett who won two titles with the celts was an all league player before being traded to boston - ditto bailey howell, who carried the load during russell's later years - forget about sam jones, who averaged 29 ppg in the '64 playoffs, or even havlichek, who won two titles after russell left - if wilt had played for boston, he's have won as many titles - the best ever.
Consensus usually is that Wilt was the better individual player while Russell was the better leader. I do believe many of the hall of famers who played with Russell were better because of him, he was naturally a leader and he took the game very seriously. Wilt was a prodigy at the game and he could fill the stat sheet like nobody else. Wilt was also an athletic wonder, even by today's standards.
Wilt was a "freak" for his time. 7'1" and 275 lbs. Great athlete. He was a very good high jumper {as was Bill Russell.} Russell had Red Auerbach and Bob Cousy. Two very strong individuals who were dedicated to winning and knew what it took to win. This is not to diminish Russell's accomplishments or his greatness but Wilt's "situation" and Russell's were very different. I think if Wilt had played for the Celtics the Celtics would have been very successful with Wilt. Such a great player.
his high school coach in this video came and spoke to our class about him and coaching him. got the chance to meet him and get his autobiography signed it was pretty cool
Dear Wooferpoofer, Respectfully--- ARE YOU NUTZ? Russ had better teammates because he made them better teammates. Look at the Championships. 13 years in the league and 11 titles. The Celtics of that era didn't care who scored the points.They cared about who won the game. Don't get me wrong ,Wilt was a great player and he made Russell even greater. Sincerely , Tom D
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MrHooopes 3 days ago
So what were his grades in sex ed?
jrzy49 1 month ago
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jrzy49 1 month ago
now THATS a stilt
iTuffLove 1 month ago
dam 7 foot 1 ?
maryjaneclurricane 1 month ago
0:44 OMG is that a sucker or what= =?
vincentyang7471 1 month ago
People are never satisfied how great is it to see a legend at 17 in the 50's ? No they want to see something else. Amazing
tellthetruthg 2 months ago
Underappreciated!
rwv777 3 months ago
wth? That's hella basket interference @ 1:06 :p
ronskidizzle 3 months ago
@ronskidizzle High School in 1954 didn't count goal-tending the same way they did in the NBA or NCAA - don't worry, his blocks in college and pro games were legit by today's rules. His standing reach in his barefeet was 1 inch taller than Shaq's in his shoes! Add in his vertical, and you have the only center who blocked PRIME 25y/o Kareem Abdul Jabbars skyhooks REPEATEDLY even though Wilt was an arthritic 35 yr old! 23 skyhook blocks in one h2h playoff series! watch?v=IYq4CWeWaKg amazing!
dantheman9758 2 months ago
He became a legend, too.
fistjedi 3 months ago
shaq's better.
ir0ckfartz 3 months ago
After Chamberlain there was only 1 player who was star at this level, like it or not, but his name is LeBron !!!
pawsnoblackmamba 3 months ago
@pawsnoblackmamba You're a damned fool. Oscar Robertson was everything LeBrons heartless ass ever dreamed of being. Oscar averaged triple doubles. Read a book man LeBron is the greatest waste of potential ever.
morbitron6 3 months ago
1:33 3D camera 2 lens lol... Epic historic video !!!
BasqueteNacional 4 months ago
interesting seeing a teen aged wilt
nickjames46 4 months ago
sure am hungry for some Kutsher's now.
leucomaofthecornea 4 months ago
How tall was the rim back then cuz he actually had to jump. Wtf!
kevine2909 4 months ago
i just realized i was in the top comments, thanks yo!
ryanrpitem 4 months ago
What was his "scoring record" at 17? He has slept with 20,000 (claim!) women in his lifetime.
lafkdjay 5 months ago
He probably fucked ever bodies grandma on who he commented
skillz7854 5 months ago 2
@skillz7854 lmao thats one of the funniest commments i've ever seen on youtube.
Epimpin101 4 months ago
@ryanrpitem theres a few reasons why a lot of nba games werent taped or broadcasted to start with and wilt chamberlain was playing a game in hershey park which was small at the time for an audience of about 3000 which isnt very much. A game that small was probably considered a sidenote and not recorded even tho it turned out to be one of the most memorable games of all time
1675T190 6 months ago
He went on to screw "20,000" women. Ok.
smithraymond09029 6 months ago
why is there a video of him when he was 17 while they don't have the video of him scores the 100 point game?
ryanrpitem 6 months ago 64
@ryanrpitem exactly
Bballandnba12345 4 months ago
@ryanrpitem The game when he scored 100 points was only on the radio. Unfortunately it wasn't recorded so only the people who were their ever got to see it.
Rayman77792 4 months ago
@ryanrpitem Because most games weren't televised in those days. The NBA was pretty much considered a second-tier pro sport with virtually empty arenas until the 1980s.
geoffds 4 months ago
@ryanrpitem BECAUSE IT NEVER HAPPENED, MAN. IT'S A MYTH.
sweatyshorts 3 months ago 2
@ryanrpitem You're so right, but tha'ts what it is, back in the day it was more important the NCAA and the high-school sport than the NBA itself, why? Because in the past it was more important the studies and sport programmes in university and school than the commerical NBA, the hip-hop and the money.
PhillyDippy5 3 months ago
@ryanrpitem I have 2 high-school games and 5 NCAA games of Wilt Chamberlain, and i only have 6 NBA games from the 60's of Wilt Chamberlain: 1961 (only footage), 1962 (only footage), 1969 NBA All-Star Game, 1964 NBA Finals, 1967 ECF, and 1969 NBA Finals. Then randome footage.
PhillyDippy5 3 months ago
@ryanrpitem it was just a small exhibition game in hershey pennsylvania they didnt film those games
motrcolt 2 months ago
@motrcolt it wasn't exhibition. It was a real professional game that counted
pingtv 2 months ago
@motrcolt
It was a counting regular season game. Back in those days NBA teams often played a certain number of "home" games at alternate sites. Hershey PA was one of them for the Philadelphia Warriors.
fosbury68 2 months ago
@ryanrpitem
Because unfortunately there were no video cameras rolling in that game, only photographers were. The NBA wasn't as popular then as it is now to have video cameras in every game. The video cameras were only present in the featured game for the day (kind of like Monday or Sunday Night Football games featured in the NFL).
shadowgrinch 2 months ago
he said he had a 50 inch vertical
SuperSORAW 7 months ago
nah, he'll never amount to be anything
eternal8pcurr 7 months ago 32
hes so long
454ffv 7 months ago
anybody know what "Kutsher's" was? Some long defunct sporting goods company?
jwgilb61 7 months ago
He had successes in the playoffs because he know his role, he started passing the ball to his teammate, he started to set the pick in ''pick and roll'' plays... he played like a real center!
When Wilt was a Warrior, the only thing he knew = shooting! The Warriors had one of the worst defense I have ever seen: 1968-1969 Opp PTS/G: 117.6 (8th of 12), 1966-1967 Opp PTS/G: 119.5 (8th of 10)... when Wilt left, the Warriors in 1968-1969 = Opp PTS/G: 110.2 (9th of 14)!
Legend33Larry 7 months ago
is it just me or is the end of the telecast kinda freaky?
WestUpOutlaw 7 months ago
I remember the name Wilt Chamberlain
seanceltics15 7 months ago
@tuzwol
That's why he was a ball hog, he already said that he wasn't willing that much about winning! You played basketball to win games, not to inflate your own numbers... in 1961-1962 he played with 2 HOF and a great PG (Guy Rodgers), he had major successes in regular season and had problems vs the Nats (Hal Greer and Swede Halbrook weren't even playing in the Semifinals) and played against an aging Dolph Schayes at center position!
Legend33Larry 7 months ago
That's why he was so great in regular season and had difficulties in the playoffs -» that's a fact!
He started to have success in the playoffs when he was a Lakers; by this time, he know his role, he started passing the ball to his teammate, he started to set the pick in ''pick and roll'' plays... he played like a real NBA players! His best performance ever known in the playoffs were with the Lakers because he played to win, not to inflate his numbers (putting great stats)! Like Jordan (Bulls)
Legend33Larry 7 months ago
@Legend33Larry He started to have success in the Lakers? You meant the Lakers started to have success with Wilt... Wilt won the NBA in 1967, one of the greatest teams ever, and then the Fakers won his first title in LA thansk to Wilt. People who say it was Jerry West who helped Wilt are totally idiots because the fact is that Wilt won a ring in 1967 before playing with West and West won his 1st ring with Wilt. THAT'S FACT.
PhillyDippy5 7 months ago
@PhillyDippy5
The Lakers were in the NBA Finals in 1967-1968 (vs Boston) without Wilt Chamberlain (he was with the Warriors), + 1968-1969 (vs Boston), 1969-1970 (vs NY) with Wilt Chamberlain! The Lakers weren't bad! In the 1968-1969 playoffs, Mr. Clutch was hot against the Hawk and the Warriors -» he average over 35PPG in the Semifinals and in the Western Finals; in the 1968-1969 playoffs, Jerry West = 30.9PPG, Elgin Baylor = 16PPG ! Wilt wasn't alone and he played for his team...
Legend33Larry 7 months ago
@Legend33Larry Title is what counts, 1967 Philadelphia 76ers is the only team during the 60's who could beat the Boston Celtics, and who was the MVP? Mr. Wilt Chamberlain. 1972 was the 1st time the LA Lakers can beat the Boston Celtics, who was the MVP of the Finals? Mr. Wilt Chamberlain. Period. Nor Jerry West neither my ass, but Wilton Norman Chamberlain.
PhillyDippy5 7 months ago
@PhillyDippy5
The 76ers were a great team: Wilt Chamberlain played with HOF Hal Greer, HOF Billy Cunningham and Chet Walker (an excellent scorer)... they beat the Boaton Celtics in the Division Finals in 1967 because THEY played/work together extremly well!
When Chamberlain was with the Warriors, he played with HOF Tom Gola, HOF Nate Thurmond, HOF Paul Arizin and Guy Rudgers (lead the NBA in assists 3 times), he wasn't alone...
basket is playing 5 vs 5, not 1 vs 1 as you seem to forget it
Legend33Larry 7 months ago
Wilt played with HOF like Paul Arizin, Tom Gola, lately Nate Thurman and he played with the great Guy Rodgers (good jumpshot and a great passer -» lead the league in assists 3 time!
His team wasn't that bad! You clearly never played at a great level of basketball or even coach, because it is obvious that a ball hog is way easier to defend than a REAL team (4-7, 3-5)!
Legend33Larry 7 months ago
I like him but him saying Jordan may not have been able to compete with some of the players he balled with is just plain stupid. Like really wilt was beast but he played with scrubs, people that would'nt even make a high school team today. If Jordan played then he would drop a triple-double wit 50ppg. Guys were much faster,stronger & had higher bball i.q when jordan played
blackfluid123 7 months ago
Don't you love the seats and fans sitting right next to the court!
Tipledan 7 months ago
He has the PERFECT body for basket ball. You glides effortlessly with every move. This sport was made for him. The greatest prodigy to ever live.
S5ate99lit3e 7 months ago
Wilt takes just 5 strides to go end to end!
sixsix7minus1 8 months ago
If he played like this his entire career, he would have won way more rings! Jordan did the same thing with the Bulls, the Bulls started to be contenders when he started passing the ball to his teammates. When he was a ball hog, he was a scoring machine (37.4PPG and 35PPG with low assist rating!)…
A team, that work together to accomplish an ultimate goal which is usually to win, is way better than an individual player (Jordan 1.0 and Chamberlain 1.0).
Any coach or any player know that!
Legend33Larry 8 months ago
The lane was changed back in 1964-65... not 1966! Sorry bro
•Lane widened from 12 to 16 feet.
Change primarily attributed to the dominance of Wilt Chamberlain (nbarules . net / history)
And it works! 17PPG and 4.2TRB (in the minus) to prove it! From that point, Wilt changed his game style and he started to be a more complete basketball player (he started passing the ball to his teammates, set the pick in ''pick and roll'' plays).
Legend33Larry 8 months ago
Plus, Wilt Chamberlain had problems in playoffs against Cowens (6'9, 230LBS), Reed (6'9, 235LBS) and Russell (6'9, 215LBS)... FG% of Wilt was VERY low against these guys, because they altered Wilt finger roll/jump shot with ease... imagine Patrick Ewing, Shaquille O'Neal, Hakeem Olajuwon or even Mark Eaton guarding Wilt... he would have some problems in the paint!
On the other hands, Cowens, Russell and Reed FG% didn’t change that much when they played each other!
Legend33Larry 8 months ago
@Legend33Larry ,Wilt wouldnt have problems in the paint because of those guys,he had quick feet,long wing span, hops.No one could stop Wilt or give him problems. Hakeem is only 6'10,according to Kiki Vandegweghe he dunked on Mark Eaton while Eaton was guarding him,in a pick up game. Wilt was unstoppable
tuzwol 8 months ago
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Game1: LA Lakers 112, NY Knicks 124 (Wilt: 17PTS, Reed: 31PTS)
Game 2: LA Lakers 105, NY Knicks 103 (Wilt: 19PTS, Reed:29PTS)
Game3: NY 111, LA 108 (Wilt: 21PTS, Reed: 38PTS!)
Game4: NY 115, LA 121 (Wilt:19PTS, Reed: 23PTS)
Game5: NY 107, LA 100 (Wilt: 22PTS, Reed: Injury)
(first time he outscored him!)
Game 6: 45PTS for Wilt, but Reed wasn't playing!
Game7: Wilt: 21PTS, Reed: injury -» 4PTS
Wilt vs Dave Cowens (in playoffs) wasn't great either!
Bill Russell = clutch
Legend33Larry 8 months ago
@shaqpopcorn34
From 1964-1965 to 1972-1973, Wilt had 23.1PPG, 20.7 TRB (wider lane era)...
From 1959-1960 to 1964-1965, Wilt had 40.6PPG, 24.9TRB (narrow lane era)...
Key point: In Wilt's day, the free-throw lane was very narrow, so they took shots from close in. The league widened the lane in order to open it up and reduce the dominance of the big men. Jabbar, Shaq, Ewing, the Dream, and Moses Malone all played their entire career with the wider lane.
Legend33Larry 8 months ago
@Legend33Larry Wow man you still have much to learn about nba history before you start posting bullshit . In 1965 the lane was still narrow and Wilt had 34.7ppg and 51 fg percentage . From 1966. the lane was wider to to proportions like it is today and in 1966. Wilt had 33.5ppg and 54 fg percentage . So the widening of the lane did not affect his scoring , he was just at that point scoring less becouse the coaches asked him to do it . Wilts best seasons came after the lane was widened .
garioldwin 8 months ago
First, Wilt Chamberlain had a wingspan of almost 10'! It is not that hard to touch the top of the backboard at 7'1 with those longs arms... I don't think, he had better vertical than Doug Thomas and James White who actually touch the top of the backboard (13 Foot Touch).
Second, from 1964-1965 to 1972-1973, Wilt had 23.1PPG, 24.9 TRB (wider lane era)...
From 1959-1960 to 1954-1965, Wilt had 40.6PPG, 20.7TRB (narrow lane era)... There is a difference of 17PPG and 4TRB to proove it!
Legend33Larry 8 months ago
@Legend33Larry Wilt had a large wingspan yes but so did Shaq . I never said Wilt was had the biggest certical of all time , its very possible James White had bigger vertical .
Lol , yes those are stats but Wilt's shooting attemptes dropped more and more over years not becouse he couldnt score but becouse he passed more and had a better teammates . In 1968 . Wilt had a 65 point game with 30/35 fg made . You do realize how spectacular that is right ?
garioldwin 8 months ago
@Legend33Larry Early in the 1969. season after one game the newspaper reporter said that Wilt was done with scoring and that he cant put a big numbers anymore , next game Wilt scored 60something on the other team . Man , Wilt could do whatever he wanted to before his knee injury , that is before the 1970. season .
garioldwin 8 months ago
@Legend33Larry ,the young Wilt, it was said had over 50 inches
tuzwol 8 months ago
Freakish body. What an athlete
jrzy49 8 months ago
if shaq was as fast and athletics as him, omg, shaq will defo sscore more than 100 points LOOL
Eric1DRose1 8 months ago
@Eric1DRose1 he was back in the day. he was fast and a ball handler just like wilt. imagine if you transported him to 50 years ago. he woulda scored like 200
theydidntnameme 8 months ago
@Eric1DRose1
Shaquille (300LBS version -» prime) had a vertical of 36'... Wilt had vertical beetween 24' and 41'!
Shaq at Orlando and Lakers had one of the best combination of brutal strength, coordination, and speed. He was fast enough to run in the fast break for a alley-oop ahead of everybody else. Shaq slow?
At 38, anybody is slow!
Legend33Larry 8 months ago
@Legend33Larry Wilts vertical was higher then Shaq's , there is no discussion about that . The man could pick the coin from the top of the backboard and put it back .
garioldwin 8 months ago
@Eric1DRose1
Wilt wasn't terrifying in playoffs (playoffs = real men)! His best game ever known were in the regular season and he had some major issues in playoffs against Cowens, Reed... he never live up to the expectation he created in regular season (in 1961-1962, he was 50.4PPG in regular season and 37.4PPG in playoffs -» ouch! !)...
In his series against Cowens (Celtics) and Reed (Knicks 1971), Wilt was outscored, because he wasn't a playoff player!
Legend33Larry 8 months ago
@Legend33Larry Have you even seen some of his games in 70's or checked the fg attemts? The man didnt even shoot , ofcourse he was outscored . . Half of the games combined he played in early 60's were against Bill Russel , ofcourse he couldnt put the numbers he had in the regular season .
garioldwin 8 months ago
@Legend33Larry ,no Cowens, Reed never gave him problems,Wilt took less shot in the playoffs as his teammates took more. 37.4ppg int he playoffs is still great,you genius. Wilt was outscored because he was asked to take less shots, he was outscored in the regular season also,not just the playoffs in 1971,the coaches asked him to shoot less,learn your history before you comment
tuzwol 8 months ago
@tuzwol
Why do you think his coach ask him to stop scoring?
First, he was first an individualistic player, he put great numbers, but when you played alone, you can't win rings! That’s why he had problems in playoffs; it is so easy to defeat a team in a series (4-7, 3-5) with a ball hog!
But when he played for the Lakers, he started to play for his TEAM: he suddenly realized that he had teammates and he started passing the ball, he started to set the pick in ''pick and roll'' plays...
Legend33Larry 8 months ago
@Legend33Larry ,First off, he wasnt a ball hog,just a great offensive player,big difference. Second, his coach,Frank Mcguire asked him to average 50ppg because the team wasnt good enough. He was asked to score less when they finally put a team around him,and he won his first ring in 1967. In those playoff series where his team loss,the games were close,and his teammates were at fault,not him. Bill Russell played with 9 hall of famers in his career,hard to defeat a team that is just better
tuzwol 7 months ago
@Legend33Larry ,Look at the era. Oscar Roberston,the greatest point guard ever,Mr. Triple Double,didnt win a ring until Bill Russell retired,and he was a distributor of the basketball.You're only a ball hog, if you hog the ball and do nothing with it,just because you're a great scorer doesnt make you a ball hog.,Running backs and wide receivers can have lots of TDS and yards,but if a basketball player has great stats he is somehow a ball hog or selfish.Thats BS. Scoring is a skill
tuzwol 7 months ago
@Legend33Larry , 71-72 playoffs, Wilt averaged 14.7ppg & 56%FG,Wilt wins a ring this year
72-73 playoffs, Wilt averaged 10.4 ppg & 55%FG, Wilt's team loses to Knicks in the Finals
Wilt was no longer the main option on his team,Jerry West and Gail Goodrich were.
In the regular season Wilt averaged 14.8ppg in 71-72 and 13.2ppg in 72-73
tuzwol 8 months ago
@Legend33Larry ,Wilt was outscored,because his coaches asked him to shoot less,I know Reed outscored him,but everyone outscored him, because he didnt shoot as much,but when Wilt was the main option on his team he outscored Reed,just so you know. Learn your NBA history. Wilt was a playoff player,winning two rings in a difficult era.I dont know what your point is,but Cowens and Reed werent better than Wilt Chamberlain in any shape,form,or fashion
tuzwol 8 months ago
@tuzwol Finally someone who does his research. It's sad at how people say that MJ, LeBron, and Kobe are better scorers than him, but Wilt is just that guy that would dominate this era, especially with the technology they have. Supplements, food, shoes, etc. He's the best athlete ever, but basketball was kind of a hobby for him, in which he dominated with ease. Before someone says he was taller than everyone else....Yao is 7'6, so why can't he dominate? Why didn't Manute dominate? GAME OVER!
jejesdad 8 months ago
@Legend33Larry what a joke your posts are. All of them.
How can a center be a ballhog? Someone has to pass the ball to them before they can shoot. That's the whole strategy of basketball you moron.
Chamberlain never played 1 playoff game against Cowens.you moron
Wilt's 62 regular season average against the Celtics was 40 ppg. When Russell played him man to man he was over 50. Celtics playoffs = illegal zones.
You think Mike's 37 ppg year he did that against the Pistons every game? MORON!!
ZipperZappleZ 5 months ago
top rated comment sounds super homo
erbal 8 months ago
you folks really need to stop trying to compare physical statures of players from generations damn near a half century apart. if wilt was 17 in this video, then it cant be any older than 1953-54. for a LONG TIME is was absolutely taboo for a b-ball player to get on the weights, I mean, it was huge NO. So, that was all training and cardio. Wilt ran track also. So, the physique compared to Dwight, Shaq, LeBron, of course it's no contest, but wilt is one of the two greatest SKILLED centers IMO
kjackson2k1 8 months ago
Aweshumm
andy57football 9 months ago
he looks like he has cancer....young dwight howard or shaq much more muscular at that age
phraedusthamusicdigr 9 months ago
Greatest player of all time
drlove1972 9 months ago
wow. footage of wilt chamberlain in high school. wilt would fill out at kansas, and by the the time he reached the nba he could score at will.
nobody changed the game like wilt did. many guys won more titles and stuff, but wilt was literally the most dominant player ever in his prime.
tomitstube 9 months ago
That is great footage! Wilt was not only tall, but extremely athletic. He was a great track and field athlete who could run and high jump and shot putt. He was the most dominate basketball player to ever play.
leahcimber 9 months ago
why is this footage better than most nba footage from the 80's and 90's?
MarcoWeirdOh 9 months ago
Wilt would get killed on the courts today with all the Talent... he was the only BIg Guy to play back then against all those short white guys..
squig792000 10 months ago
@squig792000
You do know he's in HIGH SCHOOL here, right?
Yep, he played against such short, lousy guys as Kareem, Russell, Thurmond, Reed, Unseld, Hayes, and Lanier.
An aged Wilt played only 1 game against young Artis Gilmore, but totally dominated.
Today's players also exaggerate their height by 1.5 inches.
Jerry West and Pat Riley say Wilt is the best-ever, as does almost every basketaball industry pro who actually saw Wilt play in person.
tunanorth 10 months ago 18
tunanorth ....Riley said Jabbar is the greatest ever once.
FuShengAlex 9 months ago
@tunanorth
This all depends with or without shoes; about 80% of NBA players are listed without their shoes!
Shoes can add about .5’’ to 1’'! The NBA said that Kareem was 7’2’’, but I was surprised when he said he was about 7’ ½’’…
Same thing with Bob Cousy; he was listed 6’1’’, but when he and Bill Sharman played each other in 54’-55’, they didn’t look to be the same height (Sharman was taller). But, they are both listed at 6’1’’.
Legend33Larry 9 months ago
@tunanorth ....the footage clearly shows wilt it NOT the best of alltime......not even close....he is facing little defensive resistance....his moves are slow and methodical.....his top defender.bill russell,is smaller than lebrons james....russell was 6'9 220....bron is listed at 6'8 and is over 250 lbs.....ron artest is 250 lbs...and wilt won 2 rings...
wilt= 30.1 ppg in reg.season...22.5 ppg in playoffs
"planet shaq part 4"....check that footage....wilts footage is a joke in comparison
shaqpopcorn34 9 months ago
@tunanorth
Well you have to admit that most players back then were a lot smaller on average, that's why the guy could average like 25+ boards a game and at one point actually averaged 50 frickin points a game but he was also incredibly selfish and record obsessed and the play back then would not translate to today at all, he also was weaker in the playoffs then in the regular season making him inferior to Michael who averaged 33 points in the playoffs and 30 for his career beating Wilt out
PatrickEganLong 8 months ago
@PatrickEganLong
wilt is the better player. Jordan was the greater one.
archangelcats 8 months ago
@PatrickEganLong lol record obsessed may be true in some parts of his career, but when he was asked to pas the ball more he led the league in assists. I'd say that is pretty damn impressive.
bmadthebeast99 8 months ago
@bmadthebeast99
He led the league in assists not because they asked him to but because he wanted to set a new record...again he was record obsessed...however, the fact that he said to himself, "hey, this scoring thing is getting old wonder what else i can do?" and successfully moved on is truly impressive, but that's not what the game is about and that is another reason why Michael is superior, not to mention WIlt had 1 championship, 1! and he scored 50 ppg, how is that possible?!
PatrickEganLong 8 months ago
@PatrickEganLong - Whats wrong with setting records? I can say the same thing about MJ if you want to talk about being recored obsessed, but I don't think either of them were. And as far as him having one championship, uh so what? Championships are a TEAM effort, not just one guy. ROBERT HORRY has 7 championships, more than MJ. Does that make Horry the greatest player ever? Hell no, he just was on good teams.
Ahrataza2 8 months ago
@Ahrataza2
You don't have to win championships to be a great player that's a fact, just ask Charles Barkley, Dominique Wilkins, Patrick Ewing, Allen Iverson and the others but my point was that he's scored 50 ppg 20+ rpg at one point all he managed was one ring, therefore his stats are not 100 percent telling, I'm not just assuming he was record obsessed there are stories that say so and hey he may not be the G.O.A.T. but Big Shot Rob Horry was a hell of a team player, unlike Wilt
PatrickEganLong 8 months ago
@PatrickEganLong - And also Wilt HELPED win 2 championships fyi
Ahrataza2 8 months ago
@Ahrataza2
FYI I think Wilt was awesome, but his stats must be taken with a grain of salt, or ten, if you've ever played ball with an inhumanly tremendous human being you can understand Wilt's offensive dominance a lot better, how do you guard that? Back then when the league average in height was a lot smaller you just couldn't, nowadays there would be an answer for him in the NBA, his stats would be a lot more human, still really really good probably, but human
PatrickEganLong 8 months ago
@PatrickEganLong -- How wasn't Wilt a team player? Because he averaged 50? lol if you do the research, that was his COACHES strategy for him to average that much, not his. And you hold his size and strength against him? So what if he was bigger and stronger than everyone else, that's not his fault lol. Wilt just raised the bar for NBA athletes. Oh and Rob horry is good to im not hating on him I'm just saying championshiops are a team stat.
Ahrataza2 8 months ago
@tunanorth Wilt will never beat MJ. In Wilts prime he was much taller, he could easily score. Wilt is closest to MJ, but overall, in Career point average, MJ wins. Even though Wilt had the 50 point average season and the 100 point game, he was never as dominant as MJ. Yes, Wilt played against talent, But so did MJ. In the 90's, almost every team had an all star. And in the 50's, 60's and 70's, the defense was not even close to the handchecking hell that was put on MJ
Eugene4251 7 months ago
@Eugene4251 I think Wilt was the definition of dominate. Go look up all the NBA records. Wilt owns about half of them.
Sure, Wilt was from an era when basketball was different, but Wilt was a part of that era. He didn't take a time machine back from the future.
ninjajesus81 7 months ago
@ninjajesus81 I know all his records, but it was easier for him to make them
Eugene4251 7 months ago
@Eugene4251 Why was it easier? Because the competition was easier? True, but was he not a child of that era? Like I said, he didn't take a time machine from the 1990's NBA where Jordan played, and then went back to the 60's and played with those guys. Wilt had the same knowledge, resources, coaches, etc, that everyone else had at the time. Same with Jordan. But Wilt was more dominant. You see what I'm saying?
ninjajesus81 7 months ago
@ninjajesus81 I SAY THE SAME THING ALL THE TIME, the guy cant control who he played against, all he could do is play against who they put infront of him. iam from philly born and raised, when we talk about wilt we dont even say his name all we say is 100, and everybody knows who your talking about, ppl forget they changed the rules to try to slow him down and he was still killin the nba, he was a center and led the nba in assist when will we ever see that again ?
prowlifik 7 months ago
@prowlifik People say the same thing about Babe Ruth. They say the pitchers weren't as good at the time, so it was easier for him to hit home runs. But the hitters weren't as good either. All players during a specific era have access to the same knowledge of the sport, nutrition, training techniques, and coaching as every other player. Wilt Chamberlain didn't have Phil Jackson, he had the same coaches as everyone else. And he didn't have diet or training knowledge nobody else had, either.
ninjajesus81 7 months ago
@ninjajesus81 AMEN
prowlifik 7 months ago
@Eugene4251 actually defences in the late 80's and early 90's gave up a lot of points and were not as good as many people think. look it up back the they all played like the Golden State warriors lol. they scored alot and gave up a lot of points
MrPatmaster7891 7 months ago
@MrPatmaster7891 I actually had people who saw him play tell me that he just stood in the paint, because there was no 3 second rule, and used his height advantage over most players to easily score, but I'm not saying he's not talented
Eugene4251 7 months ago
@Eugene4251 the 3 sec rule came in because of 6-10 george miken from the mpls lakers, in the 1950's to stop him from playing under the basket, so who ever told you that was a lie, the 3 sec rule was in effect when wilt played so he couldnt just stand in the paint, now the nba did widen the lane so wilt couldnt block shots, and the nba didnt even keep the block shot stats till the late 70's
prowlifik 7 months ago
@Eugene4251 mj's avg was better because he was a better FT shooter, and dont forget mj shots per game avg was 22.6 wilts was 20.2
prowlifik 7 months ago
@prowlifik And you don't forget that Jordan was taking more low-percentage shots than Wilt too. Of course he took more shots to get the same points; he was a 6'4.75" guard playing against guys bigger than him. He was knocked down in the paint. He was bloodied. Detroit had the "Jordan Rules" they implemented, knocking him down every time he attacked the rim. Wilt's biggest competition (combined size and ability) was 6'9" Bill Russell. Wilt was great; maybe second all-time. But he's not the GOAT.
Phil9019 7 months ago
@Phil9019 you do know that bball is a TEAM sport right ? it was never wilt vs bill, the celts had the better team that why they won 11 chips in 14 years, russell was a monster at the defensive end, jordan never had a great team he had to compete againt during his era, the lakers where old and the celts where old, when he did have a team he had to beat it took him 3 years to do it, there is a reason why 55 rebounds in a game wont be broken, there is a reason why nobody will avg 50 because wilt
prowlifik 7 months ago
@prowlifik The reason no one will ever average 50 ppg or take down 55 boards is because there will never be another 7'1", 275 lb giant grabbing boards over a bunch of 6-footers and 6'6"-6'9" centers, genius. He was great; second all-time in my book; but there's no arguing that he dominated the way he did based off of, primarily, size advantage. It doesn't take much to grab a board or throw a ball in when you're six inches taller than the tallest competition (unless you're Yao-like).
Phil9019 7 months ago
@Phil9019 wilt is byfar the number 1 sports icon that gets beat up because he didnt do enough damn its not like he can say well send me to 2011, if you look at the game now there are only a few good centers so i guess if a wilt type figure comes along people like you will say well who did he play against, wilt did his job he crushed every center he played against, he just had the problem that jerry west,elgin,oscar and all the great players had the celts where the better team
prowlifik 6 months ago
@prowlifik He definitely did enough. He was the most dominant player ever, whether it was because of his era or not. If I'm picking a center to start a franchise, it's Wilt (ego and personal dislikability aside) hands down. I've been arguing his case on Bleacher Report for a few days on and off now as the greatest center ever while the other guy is saying Kareem. I love Wilt's game. I just think that Jordan had more skill, being so polished at the SG position and facing larger, rough competition
Phil9019 6 months ago
@Phil9019 the rule changes put in by the nba to slow wilt down didnt do as much damage as the fact that he played for 8 diffrent coaches in 14 years, russell played for red and himself, jordan played for doug and phil, kareem played for pat and the coach he won for in mil. the point is that you need that stable coach.
prowlifik 6 months ago
@prowlifik I understand and agree with your point. That stated some people say he didn't have a stable coach because he was un-coachable and eventually every coach he ever had hated him. Of course this is a chicken or egg argument did he make coaches hate him or did he hate his coaches because they were bad.....the world will never know I guess but his notorious bad relationship with coaches deserves to be mentioned.
bgblackwood 3 months ago
@prowlifik The Celts also lucked out by having played in the pre-three-point era. had ther been three point shots in those days, they would have lost possibly three and certainly two of their 60s finals to the Lakers. And in the penalty situations, the celtics were also the NBA "sacred-cow" version of baseballs Yankees.
stonethemason 5 months ago
@Phil9019 "when you're six inches taller than the tallest competition" This MYTH has to die. Swede Halbrook (7'3" 235lbs), Tom Boerwinkle (7'0 265lbs), George Johnson (6'11 245lbs), Nate Thurmond (6'11 235lbs), Mel Counts (7'0 235lbs), Hank Finkel (7'0" 240lbs), Kareem (7'2" 225lbs) and MANY other bigs Wilt faced off against. 61.2% of Wilt's playoff matchups were against Hall of Fame centers and a "50 greatest player" member. Wilt averaged 22 pts, 32 reb, 10 ast vs. Bill Russell (1967 ECF).
gmn545 5 months ago 2
@gmn545 Halbrook played for all of two years with 5.5 ppg, 6.6 rpg, and just over 14 mpg. Boerwinkle's best season featured him recording 10.8 ppg and 13.8 rpg. Johnson never earned double-digit points and pulled down ten rebounds once. Finkel scored double-digits in one season and his single-season high rpg is 7.1. Counts topped 12 ppg twice and never got 9 rpg. Thurmond was the only one who was actually "competition." Kareem entered the league well past Wilt's prime. Nice try, but no.
Phil9019 5 months ago
@Phil9019 The "only"? So 6'11 Walt Bellamy wasn't competition? You should look at the "competition" Shaq's dominated in the playoffs. The mighty Jason Collins, Greg Ostertag, Vlade Divac, Ric Smits, Otis Thorpe, Eric Montross, Aaron Williams, Chris Dudley, Luc Longley, Eric Dampier, 35-year old Mutombo, 35-36 year old Robinson, etc LOL. Kareem entered the league and Wilt got 25 pts (9-14 FG) 25 reb against him. Imagine what he'd do to Kareem in his prime then lol.
gmn545 5 months ago
@gmn545 I never claimed Shaq to be better or more dominant than Wilt, and I don't believe he is either. So that argument is pretty void.
Phil9019 5 months ago
@Phil9019 But you did claim "it doesn't take much to grab a board or throw a ball in when you're six inches taller than the tallest competition", when (a) Wilt was not the tallest player, (b) the average height of his competition was around 6'10" - 6'11", and (c) 61.2% of his matchups in the playoffs were HOFers. You then appealed to only one (when in fact there was more than one) big man being legit competition. Fact is, his competition was better than that of this era's most dominant C (Shaq).
gmn545 5 months ago
@gmn545 Halbrook, Johnson and Co. weren't competition. Bellamy, Thurmond, and Kareem were about it, although, the three alone make for great competition. But the original argument wasn't that Wilt was or wasn't the greatest big man ever, something I've already admitted he was; it was whether or not he was the game's greatest player ever, something I believe he isn't.
Phil9019 5 months ago
@Phil9019 You're entitled to your opinion, but don't make false claims in the process (like "six inches taller than the tallest competition). The aforementioned HOF Centers plus Bob Lanier, Artis Gilmore, etc were competition. 'Greatest player ever' is subjective, and Wilt does have a strong case. Heck, John Bunn Award-winning statistician Harvey Pollack declared Wilt the GOAT.
gmn545 5 months ago
@gmn545 Im on your side, im a huge wilt fan. but since you said false claims, dont mention Gilmore because this is basically a false claim. They played one gam,e against each other, that doesn't count :p
jongib369 5 months ago
@jongib369 One game in which Wilt dominated Gilmore. It happened so it counts :-P
gmn545 5 months ago
@gmn545 How so? The only stats ive seen from that game are points, and I know thats not what to look at this point in wilts career, you happen to know how many rebounds the both got? wilt 6 points Gilmore 14
jongib369 5 months ago
@jongib369 When they went head-to-head on the court, from the footage I've seen (which YT has sadly deleted since then). And Wilt got 8 points (3-3 FG), 10 rebounds, 3 assists in 24 minutes. He had 8 FTAs - making only 2 sadly - Gilmore had 5 fouls (to Wilt's 2). Gilmore played 3 more minutes than Wilt (27 min), finishing with 14 points (4-5 FG), 10 rebounds, 2 assists.
gmn545 5 months ago
@gmn545 where did get the average of wilt against bill in the 67 series? i know all the career numbers between them head 2 head but is there a specific site that breaks their head 2 head matches year by year or even have boxscores of all their games?..it would help me out
CHITOWN1987 4 months ago
@Phil9019 you can never say mJ is the greatest, remember those wizard days ? LOL what a joke. part of being great is knowing when to say when, wilt was an athleat he still holds shot put records and high jump records here in the state of pa, jordan couldnt even make his hs bball team LOL and remember when he tried to play baseball LOL wilt was a BEAST 7'1'' 300lbs and never fouled out of a NBA game, the nba changed rules to try to stop him, he was and still is the goat
prowlifik 7 months ago
@prowlifik you are the dumbest piece of shit ive ever seen in my 22 years on this planet. if you want to grade MJ on A) his wizard days, B) his baseball career or C) his high school basketball career, and ignore the fact that he had the best PPG average of all time and led the Bulls to 6 titles winning finals MVP in all of them, making several clutch shots in order to win the games you may be retarded. You sir are a fucking joke and should never be allowed to talk about sports ever again.
lfarina21 7 months ago
@prowlifik He was 38 and hadn't played in years? Even so, he played better than Wilt did the latter years of his career. Track and field records are null and void. We're talking basketball. NBA basketball. For MJ to go from being kicked off of that team to becoming the GOAT is all-the-more impressive. His being 7'1", 300lbs has nothing to do with talent. It's luck; genetics. Wilt is my #2 all-time, but he played in an era with no one near his size. Russell was 6'9", 215 and his only competition.
Phil9019 7 months ago
@tunanorth : did riley say wilt is the best ever?....i know there's a kobe video where riley says "well to me michael will always be the best of the best".
imsljr420 7 months ago
@tunanorth Thurmond was over 7 feet. Kareem 7'2. Russell is between 6'9 and 6'11. Walt Bellamy was 6'11. That's neither short or lousy.
DownRightStupidsc 6 months ago
@DownRightStupidsc Im pretty sure he was being sarcastic...
hxcpwnage999 6 months ago
@DownRightStupidsc well that was sucky ass sarcasm to say the least haha
DownRightStupidsc 6 months ago
@squig792000 talent?the best center is howars who is thletic but not other great skills(medium post game,bad shoot).are u kidding?wilt here is 17,when was in nba wach much stronger and athletic and without todays training techinc and steroids!
AdreasTheGreat 9 months ago
@AdreasTheGreat best center now is Howars? are you fukin dumb? i suppose arnold never took steroids back in the day either? get real fag.
squig792000 9 months ago
@squig792000 so u are so fool,i meant howard!and u mean arnold schwarzenegger?u must be completely idiot,u compare a bodybuilder wilt a basketball player?its obvious players didnt take steroids back then u idiot just look todays bodies.if u knew anything about pro-athletisim then u would agree wih me or u can keep living in your fairy-tale.
AdreasTheGreat 9 months ago
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@squig792000 -says Wilt " he was the only BIg Guy to play back then against all those short white guys.." - You are a complete asshole. Why don't you look up something before you write absolute bullshit. Wilt played against more HOF centers than any man in history. Kareem, Russell, Reed , Thurmond, Cowans. the list goes on but since some idiot who calls himself squiggy -you need to be enlightened.
42marisol1 9 months ago
they didnt even invented logner shorts lols
x69Crunchyx 10 months ago
Soooo footage of Wilt at age 17, but no evidence of his 100 point game? -__- danget..
bostonEparty 10 months ago
that statement at 1:25 wow, i want him to give me the lotto numbers
Airman32292 10 months ago
For all those people who continue to claim russell was better because he won more please note who he was playing with - clyde lovelett who won two titles with the celts was an all league player before being traded to boston - ditto bailey howell, who carried the load during russell's later years - forget about sam jones, who averaged 29 ppg in the '64 playoffs, or even havlichek, who won two titles after russell left - if wilt had played for boston, he's have won as many titles - the best ever.
juvserr 11 months ago
@juvserr
Consensus usually is that Wilt was the better individual player while Russell was the better leader. I do believe many of the hall of famers who played with Russell were better because of him, he was naturally a leader and he took the game very seriously. Wilt was a prodigy at the game and he could fill the stat sheet like nobody else. Wilt was also an athletic wonder, even by today's standards.
myez 11 months ago
Look how short their shorts were! Man i wish wilt was still here today...
swagger1930 11 months ago
back when black athletes were cool and had brains..
doomedamerica 11 months ago
look how skinny he was
luxuriouscandy 11 months ago
Wilt was a "freak" for his time. 7'1" and 275 lbs. Great athlete. He was a very good high jumper {as was Bill Russell.} Russell had Red Auerbach and Bob Cousy. Two very strong individuals who were dedicated to winning and knew what it took to win. This is not to diminish Russell's accomplishments or his greatness but Wilt's "situation" and Russell's were very different. I think if Wilt had played for the Celtics the Celtics would have been very successful with Wilt. Such a great player.
kentucy9999 11 months ago
Crap he's rediculously lanky lol
lasoogneypubes 1 year ago
Wilt was so beautifully athletic.
montenegrin2010 1 year ago 16
was wilt dunking a 12 ft rim or 10?
Callofduty4nub 1 year ago
@Callofduty4nub obvs 10 why would u even think 12
PrestonLi 1 year ago
his high school coach in this video came and spoke to our class about him and coaching him. got the chance to meet him and get his autobiography signed it was pretty cool
MrUnctarheels5 1 year ago
how cool would it have been for wilt to be your bellboy!!!
bettydaw1970 1 year ago
LOL he was a twig.
jaythebadkid 1 year ago
I like how he scored the ball.
murderedboy 1 year ago
how long were his arms
funkaydonkey 1 year ago
oh yeah, remember the name.
daveibukun 1 year ago
wow. basketball is a completely different game now
basketball201120 1 year ago
haha awesome wilt 17 years old, he had what? 100 points per game?
nasoszeppos 1 year ago
next to jordan.
nickylenguyen 1 year ago
love the vid - thanks
mmmikeyxx 1 year ago
this is awesome
professorbananas 1 year ago
Did He get alot of bull shit for being Black and that good back then?
MrTayter16 1 year ago
@MrTayter16 more than likely.
ednoroirika 1 year ago
0:46 I can do that ....
gougou11555 1 year ago
wow 200 spectators:P
modernway91 1 year ago
Dear Wooferpoofer, Respectfully--- ARE YOU NUTZ? Russ had better teammates because he made them better teammates. Look at the Championships. 13 years in the league and 11 titles. The Celtics of that era didn't care who scored the points.They cared about who won the game. Don't get me wrong ,Wilt was a great player and he made Russell even greater. Sincerely , Tom D
tomtuner 1 year ago 2