Das Leben Der Anderen - Honecker joke

[RdClZn]

Ulrich Mühe is dead?!

That's really sad

I came here o laugh about this nice joke (and learn a bit, cuz' there's more thing in this joke that I didn't know that make it funnier), but now I'm really sad... :(((

[PlatoJaspers]

Friede, Freiheit, Eierkuchen....So war die DDR.

[jkoloklkoklokl]

Ich versteh den sinn der szene nicht so ganz. wenn der offizier am ende nicht gelacht hätte dann wäre es schockierender und wirkungsvoller gewesen, aber so sagt die szene einfach nur aus, dass auch stasi-leute spaß verstehen oder sowas ähnliches.

[TheColinChapman]

....und heute wählen sie im Osten zu einem Drittel wieder die, gegen die sie vor 22 Jahren wegen eben solcher Gängeleien auf die Straße gegangen sind.

[jpCps01]

Could Herr Stiegler be a little more careless?

I loved this movie. I was really sad when I found out that Ulrich Mühe died. He was an excellent actor who portrayed an excellent character.

[OverlordRulerOfAll]

"....Uh-huh-huh, ja! Huh-huh - .....NAME?!...."

[habbostrand]

What does he mean about the telephone joke..?

[DXFoley]

Ich war immer überzeugt das aus Deutschland hauptsächlich schlechte Filme kommen(wie zum beispiel diese ganzen behinderten low-budget Sat 1 TV Events)

dann aber kam Das Leben der Anderen

und im Anschluß die Welle

man lernt halt nie aus ...

[HANSMKAMP]

@DXFoley Das ist nicht immer der Fall. Neben Das Leben der Anderen, habe ich mehrere gute Deutsche Filme gesehen. Ein davon ist Der Untergang.

[valiantifa]

Das ist voll geil , ich liebe diesen film!!!

[wwwtotalitaerde]

Von BND/Verfasssungsschutz ermordet

Uwe Barschel,Jürgen Möllemann,Heiner Gehring(Author von:Versklavte Gehirne),Martina Pflock(Politische Aktivistin,zwar rechts,aber trotzdem kein Grund sie zu ermorden),Tron(Internet Aktivist),Karl Koch(Politischer/Internet Aktivist),Bernd Seiffert(Menschenrechtsaktivis­t),Kirsten Heisig(Authorin/Richterin),Fri­tz Bauer(Staatsanwalt der Frankfurter Auschwitzprozesse),Markus Bott(Menschenrechtsaktivist).

Und viele weitere weniger bekannte Morde an Oppositionellen

[HungaroTurkoGerman]

Very good Movie. And the reality was much worse than the Movie.

[TheCat86]

It's hilarious because the guy ends up opening cards in a basement.

[CroppyBoy1798]

@TheCat86 Yeah thats good alright, he ends up 'in a cellar hole opening mail!', :P. As it happens Stiegler is from Department 'M' (as he says in this clip, then, later in the movie when Dreymann is looking through his record and reads the part about Wiesler being demoted and moved to other duties its suggested he's moved to 'Department M'.

Another quirky piece was Udo (the agent helping Wiesler) whom said he much preferred monitoring artists as there was more 'dak dak dak'......:P over

[CroppyBoy1798]

priests or peace activists. Then, later in the movie when Wiesler decides to 'downscale the operation' and have Udo taken off the case Grubitz sighs, thinks for a minute and says 'well there is this church case that I could use him for', thats brilliant, subtle comedy.

[michieltje1987]

@TheCat86 Actually that's what makes it sad

[horrykt]

@TheCat86

that's right that was him :)

[KoenigGbg]

Fucking hilarious joke xDD

[SarLei94]

I love this movie very much...It touched me really and I found it very tragic but this Honecker Joke is great! My friend and I still quote it sometimes and have to laugh always :D

[1poiuztrewq2]

STASI is far left GeStaPo Light, hands down.

[computername]

Man merkt wirklich, wie Wiesler erkennt, was für einen Menschen er gegenüber hat. Und wie er seine Ideale verraten sieht.

Tolle Besetzung, erstklassig!

[dboy414]

amys learn to read or say nothing

[feninstar]

Super übersetzt: "Good day dear sun" xD

[bienenpabst]

der mühe war ja ne stimmungskanone...

[Exundhob]

Tja, dead man joking

[alfaripopo]

''hang up, try again''

Is it the joke that is actually kind of simple and lame or it's something that couldn't be faithfully translated??

[freeuganda]

he says aufhängen, neu wählen.

its a play on words.

neuwählen can mean

vote again(in politics) or dial again(phone)

an aufhängen means hang up(lynch or end a call)

so it fits for both, the phone and the

politican

[hotello2009]

@freeuganda aah, so it make sense....but in the Italian version he tells a different joke : "What's the difference between DDR and China? None, both of them have the great Wall"

[bakalarko]

@freeuganda snt this this: neu wählen meaning to choose a new victim? xD

like, lynch one and choose new victim :P

[PlatoJaspers]

Yes, maybe to be translated as: "Hang up and try again."

[1poiuztrewq2]

@alfaripopo Long story short: as you try to translate a joke you kill it. That's it. use ur common sense.

[vohage]

Das ist Theater.

[mnlwrnr]

Ein normaler Bürger wäre, wenn er diesen Witz gesagt hätte, im Gefängnis gelandet.

[OrangeKarl7]

Germany still has a lot to do: Gregor Gysi.? Noch da? Warum? He never has apologized, and he is old enough. Last year in Dresden at the (yes, beautiful) Semper Opera House, former KGB Officer in Dresden Putin gets an official state award...for what? Evil? Yes, an Ortega would revere a Frau Honecker. How sad. In this movie scene: Ja, maybe in year 1986 you can tell this joke at Stasi HQ's Kantina....and not land in prison. But not in years like 1970-81..interview Bautzen prisoners & ask...

[bienenpabst]

das war hetze...

[FallschirmjagerX]

sehr lustig XD

[caspa7]

Das ist echt ne gelungen Szene in diesem Film.

[Nordger7]

Ein Wuchermacher in der Bank verdient 500 000 und fährt teuerste Mercedes.. und was macht er? Was bringt er dem Staat und der Gesellschaft, der Demokratie mit seiner egoistischen Tätigkeit? Er schafft nur Zinsen und Schulden. Und ein Müllmann oder eine Putzfrau oder Bauarbeiten machen unsere Straßen sauben und bauen uns die Häuser.. und sie verdienen halt nix. Ist das demokratisch? Jeder Mensch soll gleiche Rechte und Möglichkteiten unabhängig von seiner Fähigkeiten haben.

[timmeymann]

@Nordger7

Ich sehe das anders ... Wer was aus seinem Leben macht und durch Inovationen oder eine sehr hohe Verantwortung trägt, die mehereren 100 oder gar 1000 Menschen den Arbeitsplatz ermöglichen, sollte gut bezahlt werden!

Und jeder Mensch ist in der Lage das Abitur oder ähnliches zu meistern um an Erfolg zu kommen ... man muss sich halt nur mal auf seinen eigenen Arsch setzen und nicht so wie hier über das "beschissene System" in Deutschland hetzen ...

[Nordger7]

timmeymann

Da bin ich mit Ihnen nicht einverstanden aber teilweise akzeptiere ich es. Ein guter Erfunder oder noch irgendwelcher Mensch, der wirklich was positives für andere Menschen macht, Arbeitstelle, was erfunden, dann muss er selbstverständlich dafür zusätzlich belohnt werden aber hauptsächlich nicht mit dem Geld sondern erstmal mit irgendwelchem Auszeichen, Dienstgrad, positivem Ruf. Aber die Gleichheit vor dem Gesetz und vor dem Dienstlohn darf man nie brechen.

[MegaWhatupdude]

speak in english!

[EvilTube2007]

@MegaWhatupdude Deutsch, Scheißkerl!  Können Sie daß sprechen?!

[Nordger7]

und der Wuchermacher macht vielleich wirklich diese 100 oder vielleicht sogar 1000 Arbeitstellen.. das kostet aber 100 000 000 anderen Menschen keine Freizeit und Armut oder Arbeitslosigkeit oder sogar Krankheiten und Tod, denn der Wuchermacher und diese 1000 seinen Mitarbeiter produzieren nix außer den Schulden aber die Bekommen Geld, Essen, Autos.. von wem denn und wofür? Jedermann hat Recht auf normales menschliches Leben auch Müllmänner und Arbeitslosen.

[kondurperusix]

Great movie,by the way,most germans miss honecker????? ironically in latin america far left people miss Honecker,fidel castro and daniel ortega miss him,his widow received and award in nicaragua

[Thronsohn]

no, he is not missed here. just a few left-wingers may feel sentimental about the loss of the ddr. but even the "linke", wich is the follow-up to the sed-party dares not to say something positive about honecker and his system in public. if you do otherwise, youre politically dead in germany.

[kondurperusix]

In latin america many left wingers people miss him,daniel ortega president of nicaragua gave an award to his widow last year

[DizzerJoz]

To bad that's not 100% true. There are a few stupid people in the "Linke" who support the political system in the GDR (including surveillance). Gladly, the party "Die Linke" is currently cleaning that mess and revokes political positions of such people. People like that are red-colored fascists and need to be excluded from true left-wing parties like the party "Die Linke". True left-wing parties oppose suppression and anti-democratical governments (as seen in the GDR)

[ringnikakero]

mierda que sentido del humor tenian los de la stasi, pa cagarse de risa. Ya la vi la peli la anterior vez muy buena, altamente recomendable.

[Nordger7]

Die sehen klasse aus! StaSi war ned so schlecht und diktatorisch wie man es erzählt. Es gab genug und es gibt genug schlimmere Institutionen.

[guitigefilmpjes]

Ja, und du bist eine davon.

Was die NeoNazi für das Dritte Reich sind, das bist du für die DDR.

Ein linksfacistisches Regime kann man nicht gutheissen, und du leugnest mit deiner Aussagen deren Opfer.

[Nordger7]

Ich bin Liberal und realistisch. Sie haben aber keine Ahnung von Linken und sogar von radikalen Linken dass Sie sie als Faschisten bezeichnen. Sie sind bestimmt selber ein verborgener rechtsextremist oder radikaler kapitalist. Die wahre Demokratie und Liberalismus können es nie geben bislang Kapitalismus herrscht mit unbegrenzter Marktwirtschaft, Handeln, Armut und Egoismus. Auch die radikale Linken sind dagegen und für sozialen demokratischen Rechtsstaan. Radikal nur wegen ihren Methoden.

[SexyAnjaa91]

fänds cool wen mich jemand vor meinen allein da sein rettet

[vadimskokov]

die sehen wir Nazis aus :D

[Stinz88]

omg, vdvsoldat, du hast echt kein dunst von geschichte oder?!

die DDR war eine diktatur und mit einer diktatur macht man die welt nie besser, weil sie auf unterdrückung, überwachung und terror basiert!!! in so einem system will doch keiner leben, die vielen flüchtlinge sprechen doch dafür, also red keinen schwachsinn!!!

[Danish4ever77]

Hmm... you are joking....right?

[phil3587]

Man sieht den Unterleunant später nochmal... In Hohenschönhausen...

[eldunno73]

I thought we saw him at the near-end opening letters?!?

[skryabyn]

EXACTLY

He was sitting right behing Weisler, no? That's what I thought.

[skryabyn]

Incase you think this comment is completly random and insane, it isn't. It is a response to eldunno73's observation that the joke teller appears again at the end.

[VitoPossilipo]

Ist schon mal jemand anderem aufgefallen, dass viele Männer, die Axel heißen, einen Nachnamen haben, der mit einem "Sch-Laut" anfängt? Ob die Eltern, bzw. Drehbuchschreiber unterbewusst das Wort "Achsel-

schweiß" nachempfinden wollen?

[vdvsoldat]

President Honecker was a True Patriot, a Strong man and a Hero. I salute all NVA  veterans!

[fewoberlin]

Ich habe dieses Film noch nicht gesehen,, aber ich habe Lust es endlich zu sehen, weil viele Leute mir gesagt haben, dass es besonders gut ist!

[HANSMKAMP]

Ich habe es wohl gesehen. Die Szene bringt mir ein slechtes Gefühl. Der Junge was total itimidiert... Aber Das Leben der Anderen ist ein sehr gutes Film!

[sexycesc]

Es IST besonders gut!! Ich habe es waehrend dem Studium (der Deutschen sprache) an der Uni gesehen. Ich bin eigentlich Englisher lol.......

[fewoberlin]

hehe! Ich bin eigentlich Franzözin... Kein Scherz!

[Nielzep]

@fewoberlin

Stimmt ! sehr schön aber mit viel wehmut :(

[VEWY]

@fewoberlin das ist er auch =)

[vdvsoldat]

In the USA you can be arrested for speaking your mind. But most Americans actually believe they live in a so called free country. Honecker was a true patriot who suffered in WW2 and worked all of his life to be the leader of the GDR and helped to build The Wall himself. Bush on the other hand is a daddy's boy punk, illegitimate president who never worked for anything but tried to be a dictator and destroyed what few remaining freedoms America had, yet calls everyone else evil doers. Good Video!!

[HANSMKAMP]

I am not a German, I am Dutch. What you are saying will hurt most of the former East-Germans. Erich Honecker and Ulbricht gave 28 years of Wall.

[HottyHot2001]

How can you call Honecker a patriot? He was not interested in reunification, he held up the wall. People suffered...

Have you ever talked to somebody who was tortured in the GDR? No? You should!! I have sat in front for people who are suffering till today!!!

[missbutter81]

The sad part is that the minority will usually destroy your future if you speak your mind, here in North America.

[BugMagnet]

Aufhängen, neu wählen^^

Hätten se mal machen sollen

[Arminius09]

ha ha, wie er ihn verarscht xD

[Faabfabulous]

Alter, ich glaube, da wär' mir anders geworden^^

[BansheeBLN]

film nicht gesehen? tip: ansehen, aufs ende warten, hintergrund beobachten, nachdenken wer hier wen verarscht hat. ;)

[rodrigo18matoso]

Youtube is showing me the best film I haven't seen yet. I saw on other user that the guy who tells the joke is the one who is on lower jobs as he hears about the fall of the wall. The beatuty of this. I need to see it now. Blockbuster will help me.

[007rosin]

the other guy looks mean and angry

[lizgannon]

That Major Grubitz looks and sounds like an asshole when he impersonates Honecker! x

[stickitinatube]

"**You can't speak your mind here in Amerika - go to far and you'll be stopped.**

What? By whom?"

The guys tasering you usually.

[bienenpabst]

jaha ,da musste man verdammt aufpassen...

[nthalru]

This is so heartfreaking when it overcomes you! OMG.. I would get an heartattack i guess..

[eigroeg181]

this is sooo funny lol =)

[buioso]

I have seen the movie in my language (italian) and it is really beautiful

the Colonel is not joking, he is really a bastard!

[BlauerBooo]

Das Leben der Anderen in italian? nice =)

i don't know why english speaking people always want to read subtitles - i wouldn't - so if the translation of the movie is well done, why not? in germany we usually dub movies either, doesn't matter if they are english or italian.

i think in this case that colonel was really only joking.. but it shows the reality of what was possible. and many were imprisoned because of nothingness..

thank god there is no DDR (or GDR) anymore, but one, our, germany

[cheetooch999]

If you speak too much here, the end result will be the same as happened in DDR CSR USSR, etc.

Don't be so naive. The DDR was not perfect, but if you kept your mouth shut you lived an average life. Here we are "free." Free to starve and be duped by powerful interests who run our "democratic" government. I feel bad because I loved this country dearly until it was hijacked by the likes of (well, you know who)

[cheetooch999]

My friend from the DDR says life was good. You can't speak your mind here in Amerika - go to far and you'll be stopped. There is a regime here fueled by war and greed.I'm taking a risk by saying this, but since I am unemployed anyway, why not speak the truth about a once decent, compassionate nation gone totally bad. Average Americans live worse than citizens of the old DDR, and that's a fact! No healthcare, no heat, food, money or hope. Touche!

[Hillrat6]

**You can't speak your mind here in Amerika - go to far and you'll be stopped.**

What? By whom?

[fatass514]

isn't it obvious... by THEM... THE ALIENS

[czechstop]

One of the best films that I have ever seen, very gripping and an interesting insight into the workings of a dictatorship for someone who grew up in and lives in a democratic society.

[ischjosh]

der ist echt echt gut!!!!!!

es zeigt wie es damals war!

und der schluß zeigt ein ende wie es auch statt gefunden hatt!

50000* (wenns möglich währe XD)

[SCHRUBBE1966]

Iv'e been in the old stasi headquarters in berlin. On the wall in one of the rooms where the big boss ran the show there was a world map which only showed East germany and nothing else. During the days of the DDR if you had relatives that worked for the state or were in the military you were not allowed to leave the country. I was there in 2004. I also toured the main stasi prison complexses. "The lives of Others" is a great film to watch on this era

[sifrase91]

yeah me to, it's an odd place

[sfirodrepano]

It is really funny to read all those idiots write about evil "dictatorships " and so on. so tell me, what's so cool about our "democracy" then? That all four years you are allowed to make a cross behind the name of your favorite candidate to run the capitalist shithole? by the way, there is also a paragraph in nowadays german constitution that forbids mocking the Bundespräsident. Socialism in the GDR was the best thing that ever happened to people in Germany.

[geraldbgeraldb]

Are you nuts? More than 1000 Germans were shot in their attemp to come from one Germany to the other. And for the mocking of the Bundespräsident you wont get to the Bautzen high security Gulag. Lang lebe die Republik lang lebe das unteilbare Deutschland

[sfirodrepano]

More than 1000 Germans? Where did you find those lies? Even according to the official history there were only about 200 dead at the Wall.

No, I am not nuts. I just know how life is in a market economy. At least, in the time of the GDR, there was no joblessness, no Hartz IV, there were moderate working times, living standard and solidarity.

And please, quit that nationalist stuff about "unteilbares Deutschland". Long live socialism!

[geraldbgeraldb]

Don't you think that a state should never ever even kill even one its citzens, which are trying to get abroad? What a barbarian are you socialist comarade? And if you enjoy the body count discussion - the german-german frontier wasn't only the Berlin wall - there were 1000 kilometers of border with funny little anti personal mines included.

[sfirodrepano]

I won't lead a discussion about what a state "should" do and should not do because this is moral rather than science. Of course I don't like people being shot at the frontier, but reducing the GDR to that is like reducing the West to the possibility of buying bananas.

And if you enjoy the body count discussion - At the european frontiers there die several thousand people every year. But that's only Africans, right? So why should we care...?

[gotfrohwned]

Well, I wouldn't say you're completely wrong, there could be more democracy in our state. BUT where was there any democracy in the GDR? Communism should be "dictatorship of the proletariat", where the heck was the proletariat ever in power in the GDR? It was only about some members of the party being rich and so on and the rest of the people being treaten like pieces of shit. It's merely the same as the stuff you can currently observer in China. Of course this doesn't mean we can stop improving.

[sfirodrepano]

I don't agree with you.Of course, there wasn't such a thing as workers' power in the GDR in the sense that the proletariat itself made political decisions. But that doesn't mean the people were "being treated like pieces of shit".The living conditions of the people were much better than now and in many aspects better than in the west - although the productivity was always much lower because of historical/geographical reasons.

China is a completely different situation and not socialism.

[gotfrohwned]

I wouldn't say having to be afraid of being tortured because of criticism of the government creates good "living conditions".

If you're talking about how much food people in the GDR gained etc., maybe you're right, though. There wasn't much poverty.

[RonjaRoevardotter]

@gotfrohwned:

Little correction in political theory: ;)

"Communism" isn't the "dictatorship of the proletariat" or wage earners or how you would translate it nowadays but a further transformation of the political system into one without government - everybody is coequal, has equal power & everybody should live after their own needs. What you are referring to is called "Socialism" = dictatorship of the proletariat, which means that the proletariat owns the means of production.

[gotfrohwned]

Well, for Marx, Socialism was the same as Communism. Thanks for the correction though. :)

[Silberfang]

But, as we all know, that theory never worked out and got stuck at the dicatorship level in all countries where a communist approach was chosen.

Human nature. Once in power, ppl are not willing to give it up again.

[redsimonDE]

Der Sonnenwitz ist genial, denn kannte ich noch nicht, als ich den Flm gesehen habe. :D

[AlannahMuriel]

Ich schon, aber ich hab trotzdem total gelacht xD

[bienenpabst]

ja für so was gabs damals ein halbes jahr knast...fand den 2ten witz aber besser!

[sumfamousperson17]

1:44-1:46 xD I love that part!

[Mathiasda]

You must mean 0:44-0:46, when he says "Gutmorgen lieber Sonne!" - I love that as well :-)

That guy Grubitz is a real bastard but dammit he is funny!

[sumfamousperson17]

Oops...yes I do :P I love his voice at that part

[rellopeva]

At a different level I've seen similar situations in the multinational I worked for...

[finyard]

The joke may be better understood, if you know that Ziegler finally was really suspended to check west-mail in the deepest cellar of the ministry till the fall of the gdr/ddr. You can see him again in the end.

And, yes, many people are obviously keen on sed-dictatorship in germany again...

[Tobias83ausmdorf]

Geschwätz der witz hat überhaupt nichts mit dem ende zu tun. außerdem glaube ich nicht dass man den ausländern den film erklären muss sind ja auch nicht blöd

[pzycotic]

denke schon, warum sollte er sonst den briefe-öffner-posten bekommen? achja: axel stigler, nicht alex ziegler oder sonst wie ;)

[ImmortalWarrior90]

zum totlachen xD

Aber wirklich gut interpretierte Szene...

[derfeuerbach]

Na, wollen wir immer noch DIE LINKE wählen?

[GreatGrumbledook]

This is one of the very view moments in movies when you can actually feel how it is to live under a dictatorship.

[GentleAris]

@GreatGrumbledook  The whole film makes you thank God you live under Democracy!

[GreatGrumbledook]

@GentleAris: Sure, but which God? As you may know there are quite a lot of them and not only in Greece; but as for the democracy, the only modern state which somewhat reaches what Greeks/Aristotle called democracy is Switzerland while all others are just a timely limited elected oligarchy or monarchy, mostly mixed a bit; and to prove this I will invoke Rousseau about the nonsense of creating a representative government and believe it to be the meaning of political freedom:

[GreatGrumbledook]

"Sovereignty, for the same reason as makes it inalienable, cannot be represented; it lies essentially in the general will, and will does not admit of representation: it is either the same, or other; there is no intermediate possibility. The deputies of the people, therefore, are not and cannot be its representatives: they are merely its stewards, and can carry through no definitive acts. Every law the people has not ratified in person is null and void — is, in fact, not a law. ...

[GreatGrumbledook]

...The people of England regards itself as free; but it is grossly mistaken; it is free only during the election of members of parliament. As soon as they are elected, slavery overtakes it, and it is nothing. The use it makes of the short moments of liberty it enjoys shows indeed that it deserves to lose them."

[drifti84]

der film is bestimmt gudd, bin aber leider no ni dazu gekommm.

[saigonpunkid]

From Vietnam :)

And banana from Cuba too.

[TrueCommunist]

I hate that director... (that made this film)

Great video! 5 stars (but as a typical-western-hypocrit joke.)

[Kalesky]

What are those guys drinking? :P

[kittyalea]

They are drinking replacement "Weizen"Beer

[seamr05]

Best joke ever!!! I've been waiting so long for someone to post it!!LOL