Part 2 A Question For All Who Feel Homosexuality Is Wrong

[ParadoxEternal]

I feel homophilia is wrong, because it is provocative behaviour. It shoulnd`t be neccesary to say more really, if you have your eyes open. And that affects society in a negative way, and I can only agree with Iran on deathpenalties on this, and hope our society matures to that level. AND YEAH cmon that is you, in that gay dress, being ashamed, being ultrapromiscuous and claming it is right, clearly not understanding your own good. And these people are WICKED on the internet. Clear obeservations.

[chadboling333]

You pose the rules. You dismiss the Bible and impose your rules. Homosexual rights, what rights are they being denied? . Non anal homosexuality has to be addressed. How do they love each other phsically? If a Christian engages in masterbation or oral are they not breaking the law of God? I'm not attacking you. I hope that it won't just be an arrgument and you might consider that we are all evil, and God has had somethign to do with us, even though we don't deserve it.

[SteevDragon67]

I don't feel it's wrong, but I think "others" have a problem with it beyond their "religious" reasons. It is well known that people with issues or self hatred project their own hated onto others, which makes you wonder; do these people have something to hide, or an issue they aren't addressing? Also religious people tend to focus on the most "perverse" sexual acts and say "oh that's disgusting" or "oh that ain't right". Which again makes you wonder why they focus on these things?

[mangr12]

choirgrrl. you don't pay any attention to the people who answered you all the questions following your rules and to the people with reasons to think homosexuality is wrong. You just mock the dumb and the weak. Why? "...don't judge your fellow man..." blah blah, and then you come here to mock and make fun of others. Talking about hatred! LOL, you must be the hater making fun of the weak...Hypocrate.

[choirgrrl]

@mangr12 I never said anyone was weak (or dumb, for that matter). I see blinders on the eyes of most, and just want to help them see. This is my vid, my opinion, and no one is forced to watch or comment. If that makes me a hater and hypocrite, then proudly that banner I will wave!

[mangr12]

@choirgrrl I understand you are not too smart: So you are trying to help them see by making fun of their belief or of their reason to disagree? so you said colonoscopy is comparable to anal sex? so when you go to the dentist is that oral sex? HAHAHA well, you don't have to call them dumb or weak, but by implication you did call them that... So let me ask you again: Why don't you pay attention to the ones giving you real answers? come on, help them, help me "see".

[choirgrrl]

@mangr12 I can "see" you are a troll seeking a fight. I don't have time for internet arguments. You may now have the last word and call me whatever terms you choose, I'm done talking to you. (Better make 'em good, if I don't look like a complete ignorant bitch, you're not worth the title of troll)

[mangr12]

@choirgrrl obviously you didn't read my answers in your first video. I thought you wanted to have a real conversation, like you said it yourself. I thought you were better than this but you rather wave the banner of the hypocrite and fail to all of your followers,never defending your points but with mockery never learning from the other side but being a stubborn hardheaded fiasco. I was not looking for a fight,I thought you were a moderator for this debate but you are a one sided gay fanatic:(

[choirgrrl]

@mangr12 *sigh* You must understand how attacked I have been for 2 simple videos. Not even people looking for debate, but people just looking for a fight. If you were truly looking for discussion, I apologize, but I am very defensive at this point. I really should take these videos down. They accomplished nothing of what my original intentions were hoping to fulfill.

[mangr12]

@choirgrrl I understand, it is difficult. my apologizes for my brutality " when you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you"

[Yewon2001]

Good video. Please make more. I think you'll really like my next video so stay tuned!

[0801964eva]

ur really funnt :) i'm gay so i love ur sparm jokes haha

[choirgrrl]

@0801964eva Thank you! :P You should see some of the messages I have received! I'm trying a bit to be funny... those people are hilarious without even trying!

[0801964eva]

@choirgrrl wow i just read my comment i posted and i have awful spell! haha and yeah, like this homophobe Luke would explain y being gay is bad and all he'd talk about is teh Bible. i'm all "i don't believe in teh Bible so y should i follow it?" and he's all "have fun in hell." i look at him and say "well if all they gay people do go to hell, it'll be a party like no other!"

[raquel372534]

Last question. I think that gays shouldn't be allowed to marry or get special privileges.  I still view them as humans and think they should be treated as such but that's my view. I hope I answered all 3 questions, if not I'll try to if asked.

[Imamaltese1]

@raquel372534 You said that they are humans and they should have NORMAL rights but you are saying that we cannot marry wtf? do you know what you are saying?

[raquel372534]

I believe that homosexuality is wrong for a couple of reasons. One its nasty. Two God is against it. 3(the most important) a rising favoritism towards homosexuality.

This does affect me directly because I find it unfair that gay people get privileges when I get privileges revoked. I am not allowed to pray or carry a Bible in school because I'm a rebel? Another way it affects me is why do homosexuals get special privileges when hispanics(a human race) are treated like animals?

[MDoodlee]

@raquel372534 Your reasons are just terrible... 1# is just a pointless answer, not defining why it's "nasty". 2# is kinda breaking the whole "no biblical answers" rule... 3# "a rising favoritism towards homosexuality"? Are you actually being serious? A rise in tolerance and acceptance, yes. But gay people are not valued higher than other groups of people. And what special privileges are these? The right NOT to marry? or how about the right NOT to adopt. Or even the being killed for being gay?

[ckinch]

You speak my mind lady. That's why i came to the video, ive been trying to figure out the exact same thing. To me consuental sex or foreplay regardless what it is totally fine. Just things that are not consuental are not. such as rape and child molestation (and people of all orientations have done those two things). I really think the reason why people think like this is because of lack of exposure so their afraid. Maybe if they tryed something once theyd realize its not so bad.

[choirgrrl]

@ckinch Well said. I also think it's not just lack of exposure, but having older traditions/ideals crammed into their heads from a young age. Much of today's ridiculous thoughts regarding homosexuality stem from being told it was wrong from a young age. It seems to be very difficult for people to step out of that mental box, even more so because most don't seem to realize they're staying in it.

[PinkyPurply]

I think it's disgusting the way people treat homosexuals. I have a friend that recently came out. He told me that almost every male friend he's told has been avoiding him ever since :( I said to him that I don't give a fuck if he's gay or not, he's still my friend. He smiled :D

[choirgrrl]

@PinkyPurply And the support can mean more than anything. Until society decides to open their arms,it will continue to be a long walk. It is happening, however, so I see the glass as half-full at this point. :)

[natas666971]

I don't feel it is wrong at all and I applaud you for your videos.I just found you and am enjoying them.Power to the Peaceful!

[choirgrrl]

@natas666971 I love that last line! Power to the Peaceful, pretty much sums up my thoughts about the human race in general. Thank you for the kind comment, I'll have some new vids up sometime next week.

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl (cont_3) There is only black and white, good and evil, right and wrong. I think when you look at heterosexuality from a common sense perspective it makes perfect sense. 2 people, a male and a female who are in love with each other have pleasurable sex the male ejaculates sperm and fertilizes the womans egg and the woman becomes pregnant and births a child. 2 males LUST ONLY FOR PLEASURE and ejaculate sperm for pleasure...... I mean..... C'mon you have to at least say "hmmmm"

[choirgrrl]

@natas666971 I love that last line! Power to the Peaceful, pretty much sums up my thoughts about the human race in general. Thank you for the kind comment, I'll have some new vids up sometime next week.

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl (cont) as for your other rules (Like how homosexuality affect/effects me directly) I will answer those questions when I receive a response from you. Dont worry I have some good answers, so if you want me to finish respond and I will gladly point the mirror in your direction

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl (cont_2) also reading back here at my comments I forgot to mention........ YES SEX IS PLEASURABLE but shouldn't be abused. 

[penlovmov]

Nature sparked diversity, we cannot all be the same. Homosexuality is in all species on Earth. This is nature's back up plan to ensure offspring is taken care of. Read up about American Indian cultures and how people who were regarded as Two Spirits, were highly respected. They were the peace makers and raised their siblings children if they were orphaned. Nature will win this round.

[choirgrrl]

@penlovmov If only they could get those scientific (and historical) facts engrained into the weak minds of the masses, we'd all be okay!

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl Ohhh BY THE WAY I did forget to mention(as I was going around youtube and doing my daily rounds of telling homosexuals that there is something with the act of ejaculating sperm for no reason) I did answer all your question so could you answer 1 question for me. Can you tell me why does sperm ejaculate when 2 males lust after each other?/What is the purpose of 2 males ejaculating sperm? What purpose does it serve? Looking forward to your reply

[Ranokian]

Part 2. If they want, if the pick the more negative side of Christianity. And what causes that feeling? I don't know. I think it's an old survival instinct. Be afraid of the other! And unfortanily, its amplified over and over again by the religious right. The gays are identified as the "other". It has a lot to do with identifying yourself, by blocking other people out. A matter of making yourself superior also plays a part.

[choirgrrl]

@Ranokian Perhaps that is what bothers me most about this- these are people who preach about love, yet show nothing but hate. However, as you also stated, nature will win out eventually- and hate is not something generally found in nature!

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl Its funny how you say dont mention sperm, but SPERM DOES EJACULATE RIGHT? You see the thing is, is that sex(Especially in America) has been abused so much that basic concepts dont even apply anymore. If everytime 2 males lust after each other(NOT TALKING ABOUT WASTING SPERM) and they ejaculate sperm EVERY SINGLE TIME it says something. It says "they dont care what sperm is for and therefore just going to abuse themselves for selfish pleasure"

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl (cont) What I would say is everything has a purpose. I mean.... You look at science and even science will tell you Sperm only serves one purpose and one purpose only and that is to fertilize a womans egg. It doesn't take a rocket science to realize that. I(as a human being with common sense) say if 2 males are lusting they are doing it to purposely ejaculate sperm. Homosexuals would say they are ejaculating sperm for pleasure. YOU TELL ME WHICH ONE MAKES SENSE

[choirgrrl]

@pppeeeppee Homosexuals are not the only ones who ejaculate for pleasure. Think about what you said there. As I mentioned in my vid, people masturbate ALONE, and the penis can ejaculate all on it's own during the sleep hours. If the point you're trying to make were the correct one, then married couples would have sex maybe once a year, and then only for procreational purposes. What a way to go through life! You're just looking for reasons to justify your hate, and this is a pretty bad one.!

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl (cont_2) For you to say dont mention ejaculating(WHICH IS ONLY USED FOR FERTILIZING A WOMANS EGG/ONLY SERVES 1 PURPOSE TO FERTILIZE THE EGG) just goes to show the denial withing this homosexual community. Sex is for procreation and only for procreation, but you see its been abused so much that people seem to think its for pleasure. If sex is not for procreation then ask yourself this? WHY IN THE DOES SPERM EJACULATE? THAT SAYS A WHOLE LOT

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl (cont_3) for the record masturbation is also wrong its a form of abuse. You see the thing with homosexuality is denial withing the LGBT community. They try they're best to make homosexuality seem just as right as heterosexuality but its not and it will never be. So to conclude.... I've shown you that homosexuality is ABUSE and DENIAL without using the bible

[choirgrrl]

@pppeeeppee Not really, the arguments you use are well-known to be expressed in the bible. No matter, if this is what Xtianity is about, a life full of hatred, then I want no part in it. Heck, a life without masturbation is no life for me! Final note: The sperm itself IS ejaculate, therefore does not ejaculate on its own, as you expressed several times. It is the penis that ejaculates. When making an argument, be sure to get all the ducks in a row if you want people to take you seriously.

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl "It is the penis that ejaculates." YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I MEANT....... But now your story kind of changes...... You didnt deny "THE PENIS EJACULATING SPERM" but you kind of said its okay to ejaculate sperm only for the purpose of pleasure and forget about what its purposes are for and just ABUSE yourself

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl Okay now for your other ridiculous reasons why homosexuality is wrong. "How does this directly affect YOU?" It not only affects me but it affects my children, you just basically said "Yeah go ahead and just ejaculate sperm for your own pleasure.... WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT SPERM IS FOR" I dont want my children to think masturbation is something normal and fun to do for pleasure. I want my children to enjoy sex with they're opposite sex NOT ABUSE THEMSELVES

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl "How far do you feel is appropriate to take average rights away from the homosexual community?" This question is hilarious. Not sure what planet your from but you do know that homosexuals are being burned live in Uganda. In the Islam community you get hanged for that type of shit. To be honest with you I think there are far more homosexuals here in America then any other country just for the fact that Homosexuality is legal here

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl (cont_2) If homicide all of a sudden became legal in the U.S. dont you think there would be a vast majority of VIOLENT PEOPLE(Because they were born that way) murdering people all over the country? This is absolutely a ridiculous question.

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl Also... Lets use another scenario/analogy. If I want to on a Friday night to piss off my neighbors all I would have to do is open and close my garage doors repeatably(Because the garage doors make this annoying sound) but if I do that, I would be abusing my garage doors. If I just sit in my car and blast my $800 watt system I would successfully piss off my neighbors because thats what the speakers are for. So you try applying that to my sperm analogy. "I'M DONE.." (Chris Brown Voice)

[choirgrrl]

@pppeeeppee (part 1) I cannot mentally compare homosexuality to homicide. That argument makes no sense to me. My response to all of your comments is people are, in general, assholes. All people, no matter their sexual orientation. To single gays out for all the evils of the world is utterly ridiculous. If anything, religion deserves that title. It is not them or their sexual preference that has caused or done anything, it is society telling us they're evil and sheep buying into it. Period.

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl "I cannot mentally compare homosexuality to homicide." Right..... because I guess you feel rape, sexual molestation, stealing, lying, murdering is bad and homosexuality is okay. lol We say All those things are bad including homosexuality.

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl (cont) If you think about it a murderer is very much like a homosexual. Take me for example, my brother was murdered almost 4 years ago and ever since I wanted to kill the people who murdered my brother. I can help those thoughts/urges.... ITS JUST THERE.... But ultimately I know murdering is wrong and that is why I CHOSE NOT TO MURDER, because deep down inside I am a VIOLENT PERSON and I was born VIOLENT its just who I am and I learned right from wrong and wrong from right

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl (cont_2) So to conclude on that note I would say a homosexual is very much like a VIOLENT PERSON(murderer) what if I tell you "Yeah..... Sometimes I just feel like going outside and randomly start choking people like yourself" what are you going to say that I need psychiatric help.. lol. If that is how you feel that is the same way Christians feel about homosexuality. By the way there is nothing wrong with me there is nothing wrong with VIOLENT PEOPLE. They were born that way... lol

[choirgrrl]

@pppeeeppee (part 2) Why is sperm the important argument?. If you lose one squirt, I'm sure another will be available shortly. The world is overpopulated as it is, I don't even care to imagine what it would be if every single shot of sperm actually created life. *shudders* I have no time for hate, or ignorance. No matter what I say, or how I try to make you see, you obviously enjoy the argument more than the education. Go away, leave me alone- this is the last response you will see from me.

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl "Why is sperm the important argument?" You tell me..... I mean if every time 2 males ejaculates sperm for no purpose other then pleasure it says a whole lot. "If you lose one squirt, I'm sure another will be available shortly." Its not about losing/wasting sperm.... ITS ABOUT PURPOSE. I believe in PURPOSE and that is what God and Christianity is about PURPOSE. If 2 males are ejaculating sperm that they know is only to fertilize a womans egg then I would say its ABUSE! Plain and Simple

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl (cont) "If you lose one squirt, I'm sure another will be available shortly." You know something... When I read this it shows an excuse and a rebellion. Thats basically what homosexuality is, its a rebellion against god and yourself. When you look at a full grown Womans body there are breasts which obviously has the purpose of breast feeding an infant. You look at a mans body he has a penis to ejaculate sperm from his penis. Everything has a purpose and to deny that is to deny yourself

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl (cont) "If you lose one squirt, I'm sure another will be available shortly." You know something... When I read this it shows an excuse and a rebellion. Thats basically what homosexuality is, its a rebellion against god and yourself. When you look at a full grown Womans body there are breasts which obviously has the purpose of breast feeding an infant. You look at a mans body he has a penis to ejaculate sperm from his penis. Everything has a purpose and to deny that is to deny yourself

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl (cont_2) Homosexuality is the denial of self. Your basically saying, "I dont care what my breast are for, I dont care what a womb is for, I dont care why sperm ejaculates.... All I care about is myself because I feel a desire for the same sex therefore I feel I must ABUSE myself for my own selfish pleasure"..... "I have no time for hate, or ignorance." not trying to spread hate.. Just trying to spread TRUTH.

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl (cont_3) As I said before there is only good and evil, black and white, and right from wrong. The bible says(Even though you might not want to hear it) if you are indifferent or oppose its considered WRONG. We(Christians) say heterosexual is right and a marriage is between a man and woman. Homosexuals say "Well because we cant procreate doesn't make it any less wrong then heterosexuality, So what who cares if you waste sperm just ABUSE yourself for your own pleasure"

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl As I said before there is only black and white, good and evil, right and wrong. I know you may not want to hear the TRUTH(A VERSE FROM THE BIBLE) let me break it down for you sister. The bible says to be indifferent is to oppose and to oppose is to be wrong. We(Christians) say heterosexuality is right and a marriage is between a man and a woman. Homosexuals will say "Well just because same sex couples cant procreate doesnt make it any less wrong then heterosexuality" Think about it!!!

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl (cont) As I also said before I struggle with the same temptations a homosexual struggles with so Im speaking from experience. I am a violent person, I can tell you stories about my grade school days where I choked out one of my classmates for using my crayons. I cant help it, its just who I am I was born VIOLENT. But I know deep down inside that killing the people who murdered my brother is a BAD CHOICE!!! BAD CHOICE!!! CANT STRESS ENOUGH!!! BAD CHOICE

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl (cont_2) I encourage you to look up a man named "Howard Storm"(type in the search bar youtube) I met the man and his story is the real deal. He was a Atheist who had a near death experience(has a death certificate to prove his death) died and well to hell. He tells you all the gruesome stuff how he was tortured and tormented in hell but thats not why I want you to watch. I want you to watch because he made some predictions.... (cont_2)

[pppeeeppee]

@pppeeeppee (cont_3) He made a pretty bold prediction about a financial collapse in America(Remind you his book came out in 2000..... SO THERE IS NO WAY POSSIBLE HE COULD HAVE GUESSED THAT) he said Jesus and the Angels told him it would happen. I would at least encourage you to note that fact.

[pppeeeppee]

@choirgrrl He made a pretty bold prediction about a financial collapse in America(Remind you his book came out in 2000..... SO THERE IS NO WAY POSSIBLE HE COULD HAVE GUESSED THAT) he said Jesus and the Angels told him it would happen. I would at least encourage you acknowledge the fact that this man "Howard Storm" is too much to be 1 big coincidence, because thats all you atheist ever say "ohh..... its just a coincidence" I'm done (Chris Brown Voice)

[Ranokian]

Dear Choirgrrl, I appreciate what you are doing. Or trying to do at least. But the thing is, if people are anti gay, its based on some feeling they have. They try to explain that feeling by looking for arguments, they need to give it a face.. They are people whose reactions are more based on feelings then anything else it seems. They accept religion without scrutiny, so why not accept their anti gay feelings. In fact, religion supports it. -----. part 2.

[Clemburke1111]

I work for lambda legal ,and I loved this vidio I have to go watch the first one. I would love you to friend me on FB.

[choirgrrl]

@Clemburke1111 This is an issue deep in my heart, man. Hate should be saved for awful tasting foods, not people!

[sparton1199]

i was talking to my friends the other day, and they thought it was super wierd that i would have been willing to let mike jackson to rape me in the ass to be able to play on all his awesome farris wheels, roller coasters, bumber cars, popcorn and cotton candy machines and shit. but not..... THE BUTT CANNOT BE BREACHED!

[choirgrrl]

@sparton1199 Oh, sparton, you know MJ never charged a thing to play! :P

[Godlesshayes]

You've effectively killed off any and all arguments these people will have with Rule 1 and 2. I'll be interested to see if any of them even try.

Also, I got the computer back early and am now uploading a video that will hopefully be up in a few about my public school experience. Nice seeing you on here again.

[choirgrrl]

@Godlesshayes Thank you! Nice to be back. :) My entire hope is to get people to look deeper into their hate and decide if it is truly founded or just ridiculous. I thought the 1st vid may have accomplished that... I honestly should have known better! (At least I'm prepared knowing this vid may have the same results)