Tuning an EP82 to beat an R34 (Option video)

[HawnTitan]

Tarzan Yamada!



[andersenchong]

5 dislike from skyline user XD

[kaidrift]

すげー速ー

[gamwpanagia]

haha that understeer was so on purpose :D

[Gixxer319]

for real, why boost up the engine power and not bulletproof the tranny...fack

[013neutron013]

small and dangerous !!

[nightSpiritUK]

sorry guys no subs unless someone wants to translate it...does it need subs? hrf take ep82, spend 1 million yen on giving it the v300 treatment, starlet rapes r34, transmission explodes on the drag strip......fin

[InitialDirt]

@nightSpiritUK lol trans exploded cause the car was never meant to go fast in the first place

[nightSpiritUK]

@InitialDirt That's one unfounded opinion, if a gearbox isn't used right or maintained, it'll fail. The Hoku Racing Factory demo car (that started all this off) ran over 400ps on the stock gearbox and that never failed

[MrSham1996]

zzzzzz....try to give Top Gear's Stig in r34..sure the EP82 had no chance to win... :P

r34 just win drag..cuz r34 have more power..r34 lose racing..cuz of lame Driving..

[nightSpiritUK]

@MrSham1996 you do know the r34 driver is tarzan yamada right? he was tearing race curcuits while the stig was swimming round in his dads ball sack

[MrSham1996]

@nightSpiritUK owh?? it just you have EP doesnt mean EP can win with R34..the class are different..how can old guy racing with teenager..how much to spend on a car..? and...really..if stig drive the r34..can win..its the fact..see how the guy;s driving..he sucks at corner..cant u see??

[nightSpiritUK]

@MrSham1996 Ok I get it, you're gay for the stig. I don't own an EP82 anymore, haven't for a few years, I've driven a lot of cars so can speak from some experience. You're completely missing the point and each post you make shows this...put the stig in the R34 and then in the EP82, the EP would win every time. It's all about power to weight, the sub 1000kg EP with around 300hp is going to beat the R34 isn't it? the cost of tuning the EP is less than buying an R34 so no argument there either

[polsktralia]

@MrSham1996 You realise "The Stig" isn't the best driver in the world, right?

[Crazybenjiwoo]

the skyline was stock right ??

de-restrict it atleast

[brent07]

this vid needs a translation badly. :D that's a strong Starlet! Nice!

[AE86TougeRacer]

the startlet won at tsukuba cuz it was lighter!!!!!!!!!

[180TYPEM]

軽四は右斜線走っちゃダメだよｗｗ

リアルにうぜぇからさ

[bilbo1181]

subtitles would be nice! how the fuck are we supposed to understand all of audience is english

[adictd2bass]

Love the which car is better comments lol each car is better in different areas for different reasons, ep82 is a quick streeter with alot of potential Gtr is a super quick streeter with lost of potential........ Ep82 would be better as a daily though, the solid rear axle is what kills the design of the ep82 such a shame Toyota skimped out on that

[Nikko40691]

@adictd2bass

Some of the best hot hatches had solid rear axles...

Mk2 GTI

106 GTI/VTS.

It's what you do with it that counts.

[manikdj123]

Great video! Could do with some subtitles too though. But i think we get the gist of it...

[jon6487]

thats one unholy 1.3L LOL

[usernamefromhell]

I'd like to see a ep91 Glanza V lapping Tsukuba in 1 minute flat ! ...Anybody know where I could find something like that..???

[madzraymund]

the starlet may have a weight advantage but the skyline obviously has the huge advantage when it comes to power with its bigger engine and launch with awd..

[palanca438]

i want that engine....(4efte - EP82), for my tercel....with all this upgrades LOL

[TheVtieg6]

Forged TD04 can be modifed to beat a stock R34 GTR.

[billybob40782]

the starlet is the best jap car ever

[BRKmaddox]

sush

[driftmotion]

still love the GTR tho :)

[smithwest123]

lol holy yamada has 2 Gt-R's

[twinturboteen18]

race car drivers can aford lots of cars with muiltiple 100 thousand dollor salerys

[lukejarmain]

wish i could understand em

[yuna12a]

oh bye the way i have a r32 gtr and its got 896awhp @24psi i have raced a glanza with 560fwhp and he kept up its got 700kg and the r32 has 1200 mmmm the lighter the car the better but any way nice vid

[TheVtieg6]

yuna12a

You say you have a 896whp GTR and yet you can't spell properly?

[chrisdef15]

LOL so full of shit. Does it make you feel good lieing to strangers on youtube?

[UltimateCefiro]

maybe the GT-R is running stock eh~~??

[coorzaa]

fkn tarzan looks like a monkey! HAHAHA

fkn japs

[starletis200]

ha ha ha smelly gtr more power in a second hand tea bag its a starlet any way nissan are renault now wtf why would ya buy 1 of them ha ha loosers go on the starlet

[clinkercontrol]

that skyline is not in any way french or have any french parts at all

[f0gGenxk]

tarzan looks like a monkey lol hes a good driver tho

[capleskylline]

Yow I got A skyline gts-t r33 and its not cheap 2 modfied and its a gts what about the gtr i am selling it 2 buy a STARLET GT TURBO people here where i live have starlet and kill skyline easy

[hokman1]

mission failure

[nightSpiritUK]

My track EP82 torque steers a lot, but it's all part of the FF fun. Power to weight is what gives these cars the edge when you up the power. Mine with just 203atw leaves a good friends 380hp R32 GTR from a standing start ;)

[furrybarry]

My god! look at the torque steer on the Starlet.

[linkesto]

phaha:D loooll you stpids:D

[XxStreetShredderxX]

Lol omg this made me laugh hard.. stupid cheating r34 >;o

[nightSpiritUK]

If you check my other videos (Project EP82) you'll see I'm building a similar machine from an EP82 base. More track focused though. My EP (I chose it because it's cheap to tune and run...I could have bought any car in reality, within reason) weighs 750kg and currently puts out 203hp atw, all at 1.2 bar. I had to call it a day as the 410cc injectors were running at 98%, need a set of 550cc to continue ;)

[parry2323]

I would kill to drive that Starlet.

[nightSpiritUK]

Shame that HRF went out of business some time ago...that engine conversion was amazing.

[nismobeach]

Buy a Tercel and swap in a 4E-FTE like I did. :)

[mitz2772]

skyline is best car ever

[oumushinrikyo]

この人が千葉くん?

[hamkaya]

i found out that when he speaks,it quite annoyed me.

[KerryGetz1122]

the subtitles near the end say his transmission blew...(the starlets)

[niklal07]

modify the skyline and it will kick the shit out of the starlet..

[Ozchuck]

Yeah but that would make boring TV

"oh look, a skyline winning a race"

lol :P

[lilhana6970]

Yeah bearing in mind that would cost a fucking bomb to buy the r34 and modify it whereas the starlet about £15k at the most so please shut up you noob! besides at the end the skyline is modified and still gets beat hahaha! EP82 ftw lol !

[furrybarry]

Of course you could just get an R32 and have the best of both worlds. ie. cheap to buy and still a GTR.

[niklal07]

in thats case, why not buy a motorbike... alot cheaper and non modified and will still beat the GTR..

you are missing the point you wanker...

any car can be modified to beat the GTR..

its all good going faster than GTR in straight line, when it will come to corners, the starlet will be wrapped around a pole.

besides will so much mods, the starlet engine wont take the punishment that the GTR engine will handle.. with ease

[gazb3146]

are you fucking retarded?? first of all, last time I checked this was about cars not motorbikes, did you even watch the video you whiney bitch or just the comments? I think you'll find there WAS a track race, in which the gtr got overtaken on a corner then raped, plus the engine has been transplanted so YES it will easily handle the mods also a forged 4efte can handle powers of 300bhp+ with ease! Get a fucking clue before you post next time dumbass!

[haloaum]

dickhead !!! YOu can modify a mini to beat a ferrari , doesnt mean mini is a better car than ferrari ...

If after seeing this vid, you think starlet is a better car , than youre mistaken..

you can pump out 1000 bhp from GTR engine while still street legal... i'd like to see your tiny dick starlet beat that...

Both fully modified, GTR would kick ass...

If you gonna whinge about cost, maybe that why you are so happy with the starlet, caus u cant buy the GTR

[gazb3146]

OH MY FUCKING GOD! Will It ever end! Where the fuck did I say the starlet was an outright better car? I was replying to some little bitch who was talking FULL ON BULLSHIT! And do you have enough money to modify a skyline that much? No you fucking dont dya!? So take your illiterate ass (seriously a child has better english skills than you) and GTFO!

[comandpronpt]

「貧乏人はＦＦで十分って感じねｗ」吹いたｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ

[translift608]

i love that starlet

[trdracing11]

I have this video with english subtitles and english commentary. The reason the starlet looses the drag race is because it broke the transmission. They also say that it cost 20k dollars to modify the starlet that way. On the long straight away it reached 180mph too.

[hondabait]

100 yen equals 89 cents so 13million yen is like 10grand US.

[JSUmello5]

does anybody know exactly which option video this is from? I want to buy it with the English subs

[westcoastpc]

If only i could tell what they were saying!!!

[cavver777]

Toyota Starlet is a Great Car .

[zensek]

For those of you who failed to notice the guy standing next to the skyline is "Tarzan" Yamada,one of Japan best drag race driver who has set numerous records for the quarter mile in numerous vehicle in japan!!!

[venuzlongford]

yea hes not familiar with circit driving

[stuartatbigpower]

You have got to be kidding? Tarzan Yamada.........not familiar with circuits? Hahahahahahahahahahahhaa

Have a look at the Cyber Evo lap record runs @ Tsukuba and tell me who drove it

[Ozchuck]

He's also driven JGTC cars, a top level of circut motorsport even by international standards.

[barfnz]

whoever drove that EP around Tsukuba is a legend!

[SpliteR]

at 4:15, love the whacky music japs put on these vids : D

[TPHTCN]

lol that little thing can beat GTRs lol?

r34s look so cool, cant wait to see the new GTRs on the streets

[dDAIKIb]

34はノーマルでしょ？

[FiGaDoH]

im 19 i worked on various race cars for a family friends workshop .. ive had a hand in building and maintaining drift cars and am currently on the way to building my own i know a r34 is not the best thing out there, it does depend on use as in track or street but over all as a general car i'd prefer a jza80

[FiGaDoH]

OK SPEED4MIKE now time for you to learn a simple lesson.. a r34 gt-r is an insane piece of work. the toyota starlet GT is a very under estimiated car.. very quick stock, very nible and handles like a awd and will turn on a hubcap.. i would put money into one as pure fact you beat a 34 in a starlet gt the skyline owner would be saying WTF !!! thus is why im building a 3sgte 1988 celica coupe, a ca18det nissan bluebird and a 1ggte rwd celica..

[speed4mike]

Fi, we are talking street cars which you've been driving what, 2 or 3 years? I've been building and racing machines before you were conceived; I'm 45. What are you going to teach me about a car that when it was in production, you still couldn't drive! Have you ever driven either, stock or modified? 1st. if the R-34 was such a piece of work then it would still be in production making Nissan money. The car industry is a business and the R-34 was basically losing money. Hence, it's quick demise.

[speed4mike]

At 19 the project that you are undertaking will be a good stepping stone for greater things 10 years from now when you will start to really be good at it. Nobody is good at this sort of thing at the beginning, even though we all thought that we were good at 20. Only now that my friends and I are in our 40's do we NOW realize how uninformed, narrow-minded and just flat ignorant to engine building & racing we were. And when we have a beer and reminisce about the old days, we laugh, we laugh alot.

[speed4mike]

Oh, and by the way, good luck on your projects. They should be fun and exciting for you.

[ryanissuper]

Many sports cars do not make money. They are halo cars that bring prestige to the company. Nissan must think there is something to it as they are bringing back the GT-R next year, and to America no less.

The R34 certainly was a piece of work, it set a new record for the Nürburgring Nordschleife (7:54), and continues to hold 50th place 8 years later.

[speed4mike]

I've heard the hype, but I don't believe it yet. Because a Japanese version always comes out before it gets exported. I haven't seen it here in Japan. The 2008 models will be hitting the floor in about 2 months, but there isn't any type of advertizing at all here for the GTR. Nissan is just dong too good at this time, The CEO (a new one from Brazil) just pulled the company out of a $1Billion per year slide into read ink (losing money).

[speed4mike]

Last year, Only the CEO's third (or second). Nissan made a billion. I don't see this CEO that stupid to take a good business strategy and go back to a bad one. The Z is doing real well making Nissan big bucks.... Why go back to a loser (in money)

[speed4mike]

Lastly, and very importantly, The Skyline is not a great car stock. It's bad in every way, except styling, and it's ability to be easily modified to a much greater performance standard. Once modified, it can be a great car. But once again.... That's not what's on the showroom floor.

[ryanissuper]

The GT-R is not a rumor, its release has already been confirmed. Check out the NissanUSA website.

[speed4mike]

Like I said, I'll believe it when it hits the showroom floor. Not tht I don't want competition. I'd love it. The the GTR, once imported, will be 100k (in the R-34 form). And a stock r-34 is absolutely no competition for a 911TT which is the same price range. So Nissan will either have to (make a better car) up the cost on the car, which will up the price by a lot, or (tune down the car, Like the Z) lower the cost on the car, which will bring the price down alot.

[speed4mike]

Nissan can't win a product war against BMW, Porsche, or Mercedes. Because what most young people don't understand is when you start to make enough money to be able to afford these cars FROM THE SHOWROOM FLOOR, the car is rarely bought for performance. It's bought for the moniker (prestige). It boils down to when I just picked up a fine lady and I tell her to wait at the door, I'll be driving up the car in a minute. I'd rather impress her with the porsche 911 than the Nissan Anything.

[speed4mike]

It's the reason the RX-7, Supra, 300ZX all failed. At the end, they were $40k cars (that's about $50k in today's standards). Too much for the youngster that wants them, & wrong monikers for the people that can afford them. Those Japanese Sports cars were in the wrong price range. What did Japanese automakers do, they tuned down the cars. rx-8 and Z are under $30K (the Z is about the same power rating, but without turbo. They are doing it the American way, more cubes). Makers R now cleaning up.

[super2ner]

what they did not fail the 300zx was sold around the world and made huge sales in the us the supra was beaten by the mr2 and the rx7 was a hit in japan. A new z is around 40k iut the door and the rx is 35k the new rx7( yes a new rx7) supra and skyline will cost well over the old 300zx price and they will sell like hotcakes

[speed4mike]

Look at the sales figures. 300's, 7's, supra, MR2's were not going out the door back in the early nineties. I sold for Toyota back then. 1 Supra left our dealership in a year (and we had a big dealership)! They were not going out the door.

[speed4mike]

Here in Japan the Z starts at about $25K up to about $35K depending on the type. The RX-8 starts at $20k and goes to a high $2somethingK. And I'm still right. $40k almost years ago is = to 50 somethingK now. And very few would spend that much cash on a car with that little performance. Lastly when the 7, GTR, and supra hit the showroom floor, then type... Until then, IT'S ALL TALK.

[speed4mike]

There are so many lessons here I don't know which one to start on. However, now everybody sees the truth about tuning here in Japan. $DOLLARS (yen actually)$. Ol' boy drops 10 grand into a four banger. For maybe 250 total horses. 10 grand in a real engine and you get way over a 1000 horses.That's lesson #1

[speed4mike]

Lesson #2, when you put too many horses into a car that wasn't mean for it or it wasn't upgraded. Sh!T breaks, and yes 250 is way too much for that cars stock tranny. It comes stock with probably less than 100. Lesson #3 - Being light is more important than horses almost always. 250 horses at 2000 pounds is way better than 350 horses at 3500 pounds (which that skyline weighs all day long). Notice the centrifical force pull the skyline out of the turn and the light scarlet go right underneath it.

[speed4mike]

Part B concerning that fat a$s Skyline. In a drag, unless they are highly modified (over 650HP), they are just too damn heavy. I eat them for lunch almost always in my RX-7. Why? Cause I'm 2700 pounds and skylines (especially 33's) are at least 3500 (except the 32's, they are the best one to drag). Lesson - weight is a drag.

[speed4mike]

Lesson #3, All or 4 wheel drive is nice for beginners or a car that has a fairly stock suspension, but it's extra weight for a pro with a well set up car (you need both, pro and well set up car). The extra weight that it takes to give the skyline AWD adds alot of heavy extra weight that hurts performance as explained in my previous lessons. If AWD was so great all serious race cars would have it, but only the rally cars do (For obvious reasons).

[speed4mike]

Lastly, Skylines aren't all that. I've owned one ('74 Skyline Ken-mary). Wish I still had it for collectors purposes. If they were/are such a great car, they'd be exported worldwide. They aren't/weren't, and will never be. Now the fact is that all Japanese car are starting to go N/A like American cars. Except for the evo and sti, there is no more extra easy 100-200 horses; better get'em quick. If you want to buy a turbine kit $ $ $, it's better to put it on a 7 or 8 liter than a 3 or 3.5 liter.

[thorpedo85]

i guess thats why the skyline got banned from a lot of different classes...you know, from its lacking ability to be a race car with 4wd. even though it dominated.

[speed4mike]

Well, as anybody who races knows...... what's on the track is NOTHING like what we drive on the road. The only thing that is the same is the moniker. It's a lousy car for street action unless it's been highly modified. BTW, they banned rotorys engines as well. Especially after the Mazda cleaned house at 24 hours at LeMans, embarrassing the Porsches, BM's, and all of Europe's best.

[speed4mike]

But just because the racing rotory was great on the track doesn't mean that it would be ok for the road. In fact, that particular engine wouldn't last but a few days (maybe) as a daily driver. The engine would never pass emissions and the car itself would fail all kinds of regulations. Not to mention that the sheetmetal interior with only 1 bucket seat, steering wheel, and a few guages as amenities would suck.

[semperdrift]

> Man, I love Option Vid's crazy anthics...

[Pireboi251]

Man tarzan looks werid with black hair ^_^

[ultramarine13]

So that was Tarzan then? I thought so.

[bonzelite]

was embarrassing for the R34. but the EP82 had to be seriously modified to keep up. but on the track it gained a large lead. but overall, the GTR rules. the point was well-made though, about tuning.

[g0j1ra]

Fvck I hate people that hog the right lane!

Then he wonder why the guy rides his ass!

[stevenhicks604]

u are stupid as a dumb red neck american.

it's call right side drive in japan. dumbkid lmfao owned!!!! *good job*!!!

[g0j1ra]

LOL ironic coming from a guy named HICKs

[HRG86]

lmao!

the worst is the same shit in the left lane lmao!

[benjaspeed]

impressive

[killersushi99]

2 words for that Skyline on your azz...Emergency Brake.

[3star2nr]

ha ha baby starlet rape skyline LOL

[b33b01kuro]

LOL he called it a commoners car bin bonnnnn

[magyarR34]

not the car, its the driver :)

[Nasutko]

this video is a joke.

[nightSpiritUK]

Why so? because a modified EP82 beats the 'unbeatable' Skyline...? no joke there...

[Nasutko]

It was all acted out thats why.

[ultramarine13]

So what? It's done all the time. In the end, the results would have been the same if you tried it yourself.

[JimPrower]

Well, ya can't go and drive a stock car against a modified auto, now?

[b33b01kuro]

wasnt stock

[flowerh0rn]

If you wanna talk about Skyline in mountain roads, then you gotta see the vid where two AE86 beat the crap out of a R34... LMAO

[metalLANN]

..great video!!..wish to see starlet's vs mivec NA..is't fare..??

[jamiesweden]

I wish i spoke gook!

[b33b01kuro]

its fukkin japanese man... han gook= korean.. educate yourself before you say stupid crap like this

[jamiesweden]

blow me bitch tits

[b33b01kuro]

Lol i see your reply has no substance.. so instead u come back with some B.S. middle school crap lol. GG!

[gotablueR32]

man starlets nice but r32s better r32 cost $10000 got to HKS spend 20g get a T5IL highest posable 880ps really gd power to price ratio stuff ferrari

[gotablueR32]

ford 200sx? its nissan 200sx dumbass skyline is a traction monster go to da mountains starlet would be gone

[nightSpiritUK]

I'm guessing from your excellent command of the english language that you're american gotabluer32? that'd also explain why you failed to get my sarcasm...'go to da mountains, starlet would be gone' yup..into the distance, with you in the rear view....dumbass.

[gotablueR32]

im an aussie and not proud braksy cant manage water and they should stop immergration

[nightSpiritUK]

sounds alot like england mate... :(

[gotablueR32]

Australia where the bloody hell r u LoL

[lostkeat]

hey, may i know where i can download this vid ?

[nightSpiritUK]

I have no idea...sounds like a ford 200sx driver to me.

[back2basix]

Toyota Starlet's are awesome lil pocket rockets! Who the hell called it a "Nissan" Starlet!? haha

[Thaikid13]

its tough to drive that little thing so much power... the power to weight ratio is crazy... its scary

[Whitmarsh]

wow a nissan scarlet really beated a skyline?

[nightSpiritUK]

yies, a nissan scarlet really beated a skyline...it beated it really lots.

[COBLOG]

That'll teach those Skyline guys. Very funny!

[toonkoshika]

oioliuoiup;

[nightSpiritUK]

my thoughts exactly...