Kent Hovind vs. Jared, Big Bang etc., 05/05, Part Three

[creationliberty]

Hahaha! He says, "This is a falsification of evolution." It doesn't matter to them. I have a video called "Radiometric Dating Flaws (K-Ar)"... I explain in detail the sample they're discussing. Read the evolutionists' comments. They still make excuses and hurl insults. It doesn't matter how much obvious evidence is against the evolution theory, they're still going to believe it no matter what, because they don't want God telling them what to do. (2 Peter 3:3 -- "walking after their own lusts")

[creationliberty]

Yeah, the whole geologic column is bogus.

I laugh everytime I hear evolutionists use their "escape route" in debate. "I'm not a biologist so I could tell you blah blah blah," "I'm not a chemist so I can't explain blah blah blah"

It's a shell game. You have guess where the evidence is because they always pass it along to some other "field of research" when they don't have answers. Evolution a carefully protected, state-funded, religion... many people have swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.

[CBALLEN]

If abiogenesis were true new life should be springing up everywhere in our life friendly enviornment,but that's not what we see.Many experiments devoted to this have been tried all over the world,but all have failed and face it you must have life for it to evolve even if evos claim they are only about how life changes instead of how it got here.

[GronTheMighty]

Go get an education.. really, it would serve you well to know more about chemistry and biology if you wanna talk about such things as evolution and abiogenesis at all to actually understand the basics :)

[CBALLEN]

I have an education,the difference is I don't have an indoctrination like you.Now,you need to get an EDUCATION.

[GronTheMighty]

i have to disappoint you that your anger only fuels the fire of your being almost entertainingly wrong

[CBALLEN]

I'm not mad at all,it's just sad to see what indoctrination has done to people like you.Those that indoctrinate you look at science as a game.They try and see how far they can push the limits of naturalism before they have to look to the supernatural.Many scientist know that there is no reason at all to believe what they teach,just that the alternative is God and that He can not be allowed to get a foot in the door.That should tell you something if you're honest with yourself.

[GronTheMighty]

again, you are quite obviously wrong.. everyone knows the raven god Odin is the one and only true king of the gods, and of course i worship him.. silly heathen!

[tetraxiphos]

If debaters and researchers would just learn to stifle (or otherwise sever) the link their egos have with the subject matter at hand, I believe a more fluid and productive form of debate will emerge naturally.

I realize this is difficult because of the highly personal nature of this subject but I am positive it is necessary to the extent that true resolution, in whatever form it would take, will be lacking from such discourse until this has been accomplished.

[tetraxiphos]

Alot of Theists tend to 'fill-in' their own view when a topic strays from their realm of knowledge. All men do this, though some to a lesser extent.

It is more or less impossible (in my view) to be abreast of every development even if the subject matter never deviates from one topic. Unfortunately, men like Hovind feel it is in the best interest of the stance they represent to imbelish or twist certain facts to be on the intellectual high ground. This is reprehensible in a debate format.

[TheFifthApes]

Sociologists want to be psychologists, because if you understand the brain you can understand society.

Psychologists want to be biologists, because if you understand life you can understand the brain.

Biologists want to be chemists, because if you understand matter you understand life.

Chemists want to be physicists, because if you understand the universe you understand matter.

Physicists want to be 'God'.

God wants to be a mathematician.

[ajveda]

Dude this Jared guy just wants that money man. Haha he has way too much time on his hands. Kent does this for a living at least. Well this was in 2005, hopefully Jared has a girlfriend or something in the present. I hope he's doing better than Kent Hovind is...

[Gwaithmir]

Did I hear Hovind right? First he says that an isopod is a trilobite, then claims he can't define what a trilobite is.

[Ripley747]

lol. I was thinking the exact same thing. lol. This guys lies more than pathological liers I know. That is sad:(.

[sweatytoothmadman]

I tried to google of the "guadalupe human fossil" and can not find anything. Anyone known anything about this?

[mordinvan]

There is lots of proof life can come from non living matter. RNA can replicate itself, and if it does so in lipid-bilayers you get simple cells.

[drvenkman16]

Ha, where did RNA come from. If you can't admit there is no evidence life can arise from non-living matter then you are obviously biased and ill-equiped to discuss this subject.

[mordinvan]

There is plenty of evidence. The exact mechanism is as of yet unknown and is currently being researched in the scientific community, but there is plenty of evidence.

RNA can be synthesized when organic matter like that found in comets is exposed to energy(lightening/UV) in a reducing atmosphere. If you don't know this then you are the one ill equipped to engage in this discussion.

[drvenkman16]

Those experiments done in the 50's posed no evidence and nothing new has materialized in the scientific community. Just because they are researching something doesn't count as evidence for a theory. Nor does it make something scientific. If they discover the mechanism then they can put it in science books. Otherwise it is just speculation, imagination, and religion. This is the way science has worked for centuries but the word science has been redefined in the past decades.

[mordinvan]

They have mechanisms, they are just not sure which one is correct. But the experiment showed we could produce neuclaic acids and ribose sugars in said environment. Later experiments have shown RNA can self replicate, and also have shows using certain mineral beds as a substrate for polymerization can remove the problem of having both L and D ribose sugars in the mix. So I'd say we're doing rather well.

[mordinvan]

Also a Theory is a way of explaining facts we have in a cohesive whole. It must explain the facts, allow for predictions and not be contradicted by evidence. Seems we have the workings of a theory so far drvenkman16. Since we know life is simply a large number of chemical reactions, we are currently well on our way to explaining how those reactions went from simple nucleic acid replication to actual living cells.

[drvenkman16]

Ha, you wish.

[mordinvan]

Excellent retort.... I'm stunned by the magnitude of the intellect it displays.

[drvenkman16]

Well I'm certainly not going to engage in a full fledged debate on youtube. I can certainly see that engaging in a debate with you in any forum would be counterproductive based on the misleading comments you have deluded yourself with above.

[mordinvan]

Name one and cite a peer reviewed research journal which can back up your claim please.

[drvenkman16]

There is no evidence that life can arise from non-living material. Period.

[CentabyteZero]

There's no evidence that life came from God either.

[drvenkman16]

So you agree with Kent Hovind that both world philosophies are religious.

[CentabyteZero]

No.

[hdz0]

Kent Hovind's voice is so annoying.

[C0ct0pus]

listening to the hovinds talk makes me want to throw my computer out the window.

[Desertphile]

It makes no sense to "falsify evolution:" that's impossible. One can only attempt to falsify evolutionary theory, not evolution.