Civilization!

[TheXprmnt]

I knew something was wrong the first day I smelt the exhaust fumes of my parents car !

I thought that stinks, can't be good for the air we breath. And I was always confused as to why people paid for land and animals did not. ????

[maryelsia]

Hey! Love the video! Don't let the unawakened make you feel bad for your job WELL DONE!! Fear keeps them from seeing the message you are projecting. I have had your video saved as a favorites for a long time and show it often.

[IrreverentFilms]

For all those who slammed me for not offering viable alternatives.... The point of this 3 minute video was A) to learn video editing; and B) to offer a critique. As for viable alternatives, we'll have to figure that out together.... Thanks to all the supportive comments!

[ChaSup7]

wake up now :)

[Swanmaens]

Need to hit the reset button on our culture, for sureee.

[otacon451]

civilization also brought us techno... lets not forget that.

[Anonymousg64]

I suggest people start with the zeitgeist orientation presentation as it goes more into detail and skips all the crap.

[Comrade420BoB]

lol i love this,

look up equal money system.

[Anonymousg64]

Thats why we need to move out of the current system, but not into a primitive form. We must progress into a true civilization, we need to move into a resource based economy! GO watch "Zeitgeist Addendum", and "Zeitgeist Where are We Now", and "Where are we going", and "Zeitgeist Orientation Presentation"(this one if you don't want to watch them all), and then watch "Zeitgeist the Movie".

[WSWarthog]

@Anonymousg64

That movie is nothing but a utopian fantasy and any attempt to pursue a "resource based economy" (as opposed to what?) will end like ALL utopian fantasies, in calamity. Human iIndustrial civilization itself is a flash in the pan. If it ends now or in a 100 years, it will end. But in order to avoid a greater catastrophe in the future we should try to end it sooner and accept a smaller catastrophe now.

[Anonymousg64]

@WSWarthog Thats you're beliefs and its far from the facts, a rbe would exist now if it wasn't for the profit incentive. The only reason we keep going into collapses is because we always remain in a system that is either in a scarce environment or it promotes artificial scarcity in order to keep the system working. Its not a Utopian fantasy, its what is already possible, get informed on our technical reality. We can and many of us will make sure we do.

[WSWarthog]

@Anonymousg64

I don't want to be argumentative or rude but when you claim that the source of all the world problems is a global conspiracy pivoting on "artificial" scarcity there exists a heavy burden of proof that the adocates of the Zeitgeist movement seem incapable of bearing. Anyone who disputes there claims is simply dismissed as deluded.

Furthermore, you've yet to show how the problems that result from technical civilization will be avoided.

[interstellarwonder]

even the word ' civilization' itself is a form of social-control ,because when you think of 'civilization' ,we automatically think....like robots.

[IrreverentFilms]

For those reading through the comments: stonemonkeysan, for the record, I do grow at least some of my own food, and I know how to build structures, make my own clothes (from the ground up, starting with shearing sheep), hunt, fish, sail, brew beer, cook, can, and do many other things useful for sustaining ones existence outside the wage labor system.

[TheLastCelticBard]

Funny as Fuck that was mate! lol

But sadly though, it's all true, Boo, Hoo!!!

:(

[enriquefeto]

Awesome! Epic! *****

[Archangel2069]

very nice!

[venug178]

Excellent Video! Very humourous . Thanks for sharing

[jessesainthimmel]

Splendid video! A humorous take on what is a rather depressing condition of our existence.

[Glomerol]

Give me a world of toxin-free natural homes; pollution-free lakes, rivers and oceans; an actual community that feels like one; and the time/opportunity to enjoy them all, etc., any day over the tragedy and desperation we have today.

The prison of many a 40 hour work-week seems inefficient, a waste of human potential, to truly dream, think, play, create, participate, interact, rest, and be free.

"It is the world pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth..."

- The Matrix

What truth?

[MEKON17]

yes i love premature death and perpetual terror of the man in the sky

[MrAdvoDiaboli]

One of the best videos I've seen in ages. Thanks.

[logboy73]

Great movie. Lets all go back to our caves where we can live happily ever after.

[aicram62]

Hey Capitalist, Republicans, Libertarians: You listening?

[TheMistressDidi]

Absolutely brilliant.

[MetisYooper]

Awesome! For those of you who like this, you also enjoy reading John Bodley's "Victims of Progress" - an anthropology book on the impacts industrial civilization has had on Indigenous peoples around the world.

[TWCGroup]

Bravo! 20 Stars!!! Good Show!

[paper2006]

lol..great vid...like the music

"There's not alternative"

[DAILEYericCaryUSA]

Also very nice voiceover.

[DAILEYericCaryUSA]

This is hilarious!

Brilliant work. Thanks for posting this video for me to see. Great.

[slywinkl]

wonderful vid.

[BelindaSusan]

Fantastic!

[ChemWatcher]

I thought this was great, 5 stars.

[Kuzya3k]

how much is this here "civilization" gonna cost me?

[chris5a3w]

all for the low low price of $freedom.99 easy daily payments for the rest of your life...... and your chldren's lives..... and their children's lives and ........

[Kuzya3k]

think of india's caste system.

[AdioEmerica]

Stuck in the past must?

[Ceedeo]

well said lol

[vanityfox451]

Those lost hours to'Call Centre'phonelines, held to ransom by a corporate system playing:-Vivaldi' Four Seasons..

looped,

'ON HOLD'..only for someone outsourced in Asia to answer-finding they have'perfecting'English accents,assumed names like Jason or Ann,with no clue of your needs beyond their 'script', this short film is beautiful and compelling in its symmetry!!

Google:-

"Chris Martenson"

and complete the

"Crash Course"

Find out what the word "unsustainable" really actually means...

[KARStarla]

Aint this the TRUTH!

[jdtrickster4]

Thanks for this and the "Peaceful Warrior" movie. You're right, I couldn't "put it down," so to speak. I watched ALL TWELVE PARTS today. Just finished them. :)

How's the new life going? Have you been watching how everything's going to hell in tiny pieces here in the U.S.? I hope you & your loved ones are doing well, indeed. Peace!

[MumboJumboTheatre]

If we become 100% civilized there will be no need for locks or keys....

[Doktormartini]

what how is this true? We are civilized...the stuff we need to survive is put under lock and key. I dare you to go to a store and try to get food without paying.

[jdtrickster4]

It could be true if we got rid of or abolished MONEY! And have FREE ENERGY! <== Nikola Tesla's idea. Google "The Venus Project!" (without the exclamation mark, of course).

[pondman27]

If you beleive this, then you need to re read the definition of civilised.

[JFurguson]

Slavery Sucks!!!!!!

I'd rather be off the grid.

[Sobanski87]

Civilization, I'm not loving it.

[OldtimerBen]

HAHAHA Great satire!

[SubtUtiles]

hi, brilliant clip! i just subtitled it in Spanish in case you are interested. if you know the authors, let them know and convey my congratulations to them. really great, thanks for uploading it. saludos cordiales.

[Duder8976]

this video is amazing, favorited!

[sillyspore]

"What civilization is, is 6 billion people trying to make themselves happy by standing on each others shoulders, and kicking each others teeth in"-Terence McKenna

Well done, amazing video.

[swyft187]

Stop entertainment and go buy books or learn/research stuff, if your not doing that, go buy a farm and feed the people who will learn/research.

The entertainment part is becoming too prominent and most are turning into sheep. But the point IS to turn them into sheep and take some of their wages to pay people to do the important stuff... like advancing humanity... space exploration... education...

That is my take on civilisation.

[daveo26]

Maybe if we just stop buying stuff and grow our own food we can change this shit!

Funny video but depressing as well.

[Ben1607]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*****

[dnHooligan]

This video is badarse. I saw it on rwSpider's channel, and he sent me here.

Fantastic Job.

[twisted709]

i agree with below comment,i think the ways of today is much better than a caveman,mabe we're just not that advanced yet but getting there(and going through all this is just a phase)

[iLuvMargarita]

we need caveman presdent. him beter choice than netiv memerican presdent with fancy schmancy hoorse wit goes too fast. caveman sientist proov human cannot breathe at sooperfast speed of 40 mPh. feet beter.

also, only crazy netiv memerican sientist invent bow and arrow. too much powerful. are they krazy? wanna blow up whole planut? stone gud weapun. club gud weapun.

wut is teepee? is stoopid can catch fire! cave never can catch fire. much beter.

vote caveman. we not yet invent taxes.

[DAILEYericCaryUSA]

me vot cavmam, um ? how me vot ?

[TJMonster51]

Absolutly brilliant! Its not that our civilizations benefits are bad, its the basis on which they are brought about. We need a Native American President!

[o0oWiIIiamo0o]

I can see the point that this video is trying to make, and not in a subtle way either. It boils down to "Look at me I am *so* beyond racism and prejudice that I claim to hate my own civilisation [while hypocritically enjoying its benefits that I couldn't imagine doing without]"

[tribalspacemonkey]

you obviously missed the whole point of the video...

[parkingst0nes]

Wow, they really are giving monkeys typewriters. Cool.

[urbanscout]

This is fucking hilarious... and slightly depressing. Haha. Nice work!

[stonemonkeysan]

part 3. How do you expect to sustain 6 billion people by going backwards? Also if we all start spending more time growing crops etc. what happens to education, science and technology?. I agree that corporations do terrible things, but others are also improving our lives and solving problems that we face. You could argue that we wouldnt be in trouble if we hadnt become "civilised", however we are here and now and have to face these problems rather than complaining about "What could have been."

[stonemonkeysan]

part2.You mention holders of capital and greed. Have you given away all YOUR money and support yourself naturally. Im tired of this urban hippie movement. Stop complaining and start doing if it is so important to you. At least in the 60's they tried to have communes. Also you are inadvertently supporting the often cruel ignorance of "tribal" living. Initiation rites, superiority of men over women, genital mutilation etc etc. Dont mislead yourself that the "old ways" were somehow better.

[o0oWiIIiamo0o]

And murder, rape, slavery.

[artnuwa11]

I have read stories from some woman who actually lived in a communal setting in the 60's and 70's. They said it sucked! The women did most of the work, while the men drank and played music and cards. Even a small garden is hard work. I am strong w/great stamina and it is even hard for me to keep up w/ the chores, preparing food, looking out for kids and taking care of the yard. No easy task, esp if you add in some live stock. But on the up side of things, no need for a gym!

[pondman27]

Been there too and on my way back. Your food will be better, your family relationships stronger and most important of all, you can control the pace of your daily life.

[artnuwa11]

no doubt the food is better, I think it makes or breaks the relationships... but I think the weather and the weeds control the pace of life. :) Have a good one and best of luch in your endevours. I would love to live like that real soon, too.

[stonemonkeysan]

Part 1. "Civilisation" is a natural progress for any people that settle in one place. ALL cultures have "civilised" themselves at some point and to a certain degree, not just the "all evil white man". Religion, art, culture, music, technology, medicine, and advancement in techniques are all attributed to becoming civilised, and no longer living a hunter/gatherer lifestyle. I bet you dont hunt, grow food, make your own shelter and clothing, or even know how.

[o0oWiIIiamo0o]

Some human groups discovered in Oceania in the 19th century didn't have music or fire. And many more were hunter gatherers. And cannibal =P but that's another story! Yum!

[MindControlMan]

Thanks Irreverent Films!!!

Just wondering if this film was inspired by Daniel Quinn's work... if not I highly recommend you read Ishmael and Story of B.

Otherwise, I'd luuurve to see you produce more short films like this one. Perhaps even turn this into a series of which Civilization! is just the first.

Why not explore the Great Forgetting... contrubute to the Great Remembering and finally lead your audience toward a New Tribal future.

Just a suggestion!

[eipiplus1]

your begin some what unfair, civilization has brought extension of life, improve goods and service, and greater standard of living than any other system. to say that it provides all the thinks that you used to provide for your self is not quite true, industrialized civilization can provide thinks no other system can

[IrreverentFilms]

What you say is true, to some extent. The problem is that these "extensions" are mostly controlled by holders of capital, who grant those extensions as a way to make profits for themselves, rather than for the greater social good. For many many others, "civilization" is a codeword for enforced poverty and unemployment. I might also add that the ideals of "civilization" represent a life that is unsustainable in the long term. We should look for alternatives!

[0discordia]

@eipiplus1 , In the initial stages of civilisation there we see a marked decline in the nutritional wellbeing and longevity of most members of society compared to immediate-return hunter-gatherers. And due to land clearance and de-skilling of population it became difficult to leave voluntarily if one objected to one's conditions.

Improvements in lifestyle associated with civilisation are actually due to innovation in response to its atrocious conditions (e.g sanitation in response to crowding).

[WSWarthog]

@eipiplus1

Of what use is the extension of a fundamentally miserable existence of servitude?

Why would you sell your freedom and autonomy off for something as cheap as a mass-produced technological toy that won't bring joy into your life and the novelty of which wears off within the first five minutes of unpackaging? You're trading away the only "fulfilling" mode of life for fleeting hedonistic pleasures and asbtract unworkable ideals.

[Conspiracy2Riot]

@eipiplus1 it also brought with it the toxins and pollutions that have caused a great many man made diseases and accelerated extinctions of species on this planet. It's also forced billions into poverty and stripped them of their ability to care for themselves.

But the biggest kicker of all in your industrialized civilization is good theory is IT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE. So, enjoy 'it' while you have it. You can't continue to grow the worlds population, rape the world over and keep this system.

[TylerDurdenInc]

Great Video. 5 stars. Two excellent books to get you one your way. Ishmael by Daniel Quinn. And "Endgame: The Problem of Civilization" by Derrick Jensen. Thanks for this video!

[TurtleWaldkreiger]

Best youtube video I've seen so far. Great work.

[Punkirudeboy]

Now you can see why USA is a civilized and free country (haha good video).

[LizardWings]

what song is in the background please? Awesome satire.

[marginline]

Indeed...this is "most excellent" (Thank you Bill & Ted) satire; thank you IrreverentFilms! :-)

As for the music, I think (if I'm not mistaken) it's an excerpt from Antonio Vivaldi's "The Four Seasons" (Le Quattro Stagioni) notably Concerto for Violin and Strings in E, Op.8, No.1, R.269 "La Primavera" - Allegro

[johnsonerson]

Hi, this is the kid that made Coney and Tots. I really liked this movie, and I was pretty sure it would win. Unfortunately, I think it might have been a bit too intelligent for the typical First Friday Shorts crowd.

Anyway, my real reason for coming here is to ask you about that stock footage archive you mentioned when you introduced this film. What was the name of that again?

I hope to see you at future First Fridays, you definitely deserve a win.

[IrreverentFilms]

Sure, the system works! That's part of the whole point, of course. But then, other systems might work, too....

Anyway, this was a great way to learn how to use a video editor. Lots of fun. More to come at some point.

[WeezelDS]

God industrialism sucks

[NakedLaw]

I buy my food with wages, the system works! I also have to listen to "experts" to make ends meet and its not worth it. I'm listening to them right now by sitting at work but I rebel by watching this video while they pay me.

[rwSpider]

Yep... there's no one right way for people to live. You must earn their pieces of paper that give you permission to exist... makes me sicker all the time. He's right, other systems might work too. Oh yeah, they worked better. That's why we had to kill them...hide all the evidence! Stop the world, I wanna throw civilization off!