Tolkien, - Lewis, Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn Part6

[quayler85]

Has Dr johnson ever heard of the phrase balanced information?

[TehHermgirl]

Here is another glaring mistake: The Thelemic Order of the Golden Dawn was not formed until 1990. C. S. Lewis died in 1963. There is also *no* evidence that Lewis *ever* had any kind of contact with the Hermetic Order of the GD, save for the fact that he was friends with Charles Williams who may or may not have been a member.

[queenpictoria]

Hello.

I try to listen to this Dr. Johnson, but his judgmental delivery of this "sermon" makes it impossible for me to draw my own conclusions. Obviously, Dr. Johnson knows and has the right to judge CS Lewis or any witch self-righteously. God is the only Judge. I cannot listen to this guy more than 2 minutes. It is a shame because he has a lot of interesting information. I just cannot sit and listen.

Bye Bye.

[ekiroto]

the hermetc order of golden dawn isn't a coven nor are they witches or religious. Why is everything a threat to christianity? All christian and catholic leaders are members of secret societies.

[SilverWarHammer]

Anyone else find it lame that this guy is reaming out and judging poeple who have been dead for 30+ years that he's never met?

[deceiver123m]

@SilverWarHammer gotta fight the occult, the guys dead but he left his demonic writings behind to infect humanity- i think your directing your emotions against the wong person- it is obviously the dead author that is disgusting and despicable for spreading evil-inspired text

[ozisvirtual]

@deceiver123m pure wank

[JohananRaatz]

@deceiver123m No, you have him all backwards. CS Lewis knew about the occult yes. In depth as well. But just knowing what it is and how it works doesn't mean you do it.

Remember the occult is just knowledge about what is going on upstairs. If one knew about this it would make sense how he went from a materialist to a theist and finally to a Christian. Occult knowledge can support Christianity you know -it's just you're not supposed to USE that knowledge.

[deceiver123m]

@JohananRaatz occult of any type is bad. So fight em till your sure you obliterate their ideology. There is no need for secrets unless you are evil. Not even Al Qaeda is as secretive as these Lucifer worshippers.

[deceiver123m]

@JohananRaatz You dont support AALLLL Qaeda Do you? Because if you support occult knowledge rather than revealing it to the public.. then your with the terrorists.

[JohananRaatz]

@deceiver123m Oh no I'm perfectly fine if all the occult knowledge got spilled out into the open. There would be a lot fewer atheists if that happened. Speaking of which look for "Physics of the Hidden World." Tell me what you think.

[sborowsky]

This "teaching" is a bunch of reactionary crap

[BlitzSageFFVI]

I have a confession: I must be an occultist, at least Mr. Johnson would think me so. I may be evil, but at least I don't think that everything is evil. But seriously, Tolkien was a devout Roman Catholic. Lewis was a Protestant. I have a question for Christians. Does it feel Godly to go around believing all things are evil? Idk, that just doesn't sit right with me.

[srhanna]

The more I hear this driveling fool the more sick I feel. The sound of his voice is like nails on a chalkboard. I wanted to hear something intelligent about C.S. Lewis, Tolkien and The Golden Dawn. All this Jackass has to offer is Spiritual Paranoia and mental diarrhea.

[deceiver123m]

@srhanna its because you have not yet researched the occult- so your completely lost as far as the references presented in this video. specially the analysis of the occult symbolism and the fact of on of these authors being part of the secret order of hermetic thinking. Hermetic thinking means you believe in science of all sorts including mysticism.

[srhanna]

@deceiver123m You don't know a GD thing about me. So you make assumptions not based on fact like how I "have not researched the occult." Having established the fact that you are prone to this kind of intellectual laziness I can safely hypothesis that you do this in other areas as well. How can someone respect the opinion of such a person?

[ozisvirtual]

@deceiver123m Our entire global society contains symbols and always has. Now known as trademarks, signs and pictographs!

[eahazell]

Arthur evil? wow this guy is grasping at stuff. Arthur represents the rising of Christianity in England while Morgana Le Fey represents the fall of the Pagan.

Read your Jung, Read your Campbell. If you are going to attack the symbols know the sources. And don't give me that circular logic about the perfect word of god in the Bible. And technically? The King James is no better, as it to is a translation. Learn Coptic and read the original texts. Whew such uneducated minds we have

[ESmp40]

It is a shame that the occult sciences have people like you, who believe they are capable masters of the topic, so much so as to preach neumerous videos at us. You clearly have no understanding of anything to do with hermetism at all, as your points are as interesting, interlecual, deep and thought provoking as a potato is. Go and learn your basics before attempting to be something your not, and understand yourself before you try and understand such an art as hermetism and the occult sciences

[MrJasonBkn]

oh no

[AtticusStount]

A Doctor who cannot even get the name of the secret society he is describing correct. That's embarrassing.

[ozisvirtual]

Oxford is a pinnacle of University's around the globe. Tolkien held the highest seat for language on the entire earth! Oxford is renowned by all thinking people around the world. Nuff said.

[deceiver123m]

@ozisvirtual yes, renowned by various secrets societies as well. In fact most high-level occultists graduate from universities of high regard- for example Manly P Hall was a well known scholar, and a fremason high ranking mystic. The secret orders have men of the HIGHEST intellect among their ranks- thats how theyre able to keep their control grid on the world. Why would these groups initiate a bunch of nit-wits when they can get respected scholars as their priests

[ozisvirtual]

@deceiver123m So what if they were part of an occult world - you say that as if its a bad thing! All religions start out as cults, so what of it?

[MrJasonBkn]

oh no oh my god your a twat

[tony93666]

crap

[plasticpuppy]

Did I just hear this guy misname the order he's talking about? lIt's called the "HERMETIC" order of the Golden dawn, NOT the Thelemic. Thelema is the name of the religion Crowley created "he was a member of T.H.O.G.D The blinding christian hysteria of this guy is astounding! lol... If they could just temper themselves and refrain from the flight or fight charisma people like myself "thinkers" would take what they have to say a bit more seriously.

[AspiringScoundrel]

I've read a good many of Williams's books; a couple of his novels are very fine indeed - in their illuminating scope.

[nikkileigh320]

I don't think this guy is all THAT bright. He mispronounces words as simple as coven. Its pronounced like this: "cuvin". Either that or he hasn't done the research he claims.

[plasticpuppy]

@nikkileigh320 You're correct! Though most christians aren't. I admire their' determination....as misguided as it can be.

Still, we should always pay attention to them. They set a precedence to unveil pernicious things.

[handydude6]

Oxford, in case no one knows is a Jesuit University. Since the Black Pope took over the Vatican in 1780, they have created every known new evil in the world. From Evolution, to UFO scares, from new Religons, to Communism. From Secret Societies, to almost all World leaders and banking. From the CFR to the CIA, FBI, SS, KGB, Interpol, Skull and Bones. Every Central Bank on the planet. The Black Nobility of who they want in power, or they are gone. And the press of the world.

[bluehorse888]

I agree, don't know much yet about the CIA and Interpol connections, although I've heard that the mafia has a big influence on CIA. ie, drug traffiking, etc. Reccomend any good books?

Also, I would be interested to know more about the catholic rockafellar, rothschilds connections, as I'm sure there are many. They're dynasty goes further back I believe to the 1600's.

[ozisvirtual]

@handydude6

Absolutely ridiculous statement!

[Isaiah6twothrueight]

AYIII???!!! Wow! He said "Jesus Christ is ignorant."?! He said Jesus spoke something embarrassing and wrong?! I have not been a fan of Lewis for a long time now, but I had NO IDEA about this. This whole series is shining some light on some important issues. Thank you for posting this.

[jinkyfc]

no worries

it really is quite shocking when you think that he is considered a famous Christian apologist