Some intervals didn't sound right. They were too big or small, I won't say "out of tune" because in theory I suppose they weren't. But I have a question. What if you played a piece with complex key changes that all happen in the span of the work? Of course this is why just intonation comes into question, but what is; other than the "pure math"; the modern justification for this system? Pieces for equal temperament would sound out of tune, and vice versa. Sounds like a fight of principals to me.
@the81stviewer if an interval is right or wrong is pureley subjective. just intonation sounds 'wrong' only because we are so accustomed to hearing the modern tuning. There can be no real justification for anything in music other than 'it sounds good'. They only sound 'out of tune' because we arent used to it.
@frosty956 I personally think that the reason some intervals in different intonations sound, not necessarily incorrect, but extremely dissonant, is the same reason some intervals in equal temperament sound like that. It's just the way our brains interpret it, and no matter how much you try, I doubt you could get a song filled with minor seconds or microtonal clusters all over the place to sound happy and up-beat, it's just how our brain interprets the beating of the harmonies.
@GreggaryPeccary It's kind of funny phrasing it like that, around "natural", as if equal temperament is in any way 'natural' itself. Just at least aims for overtones, and clearer consonance than ET.
The very first chords are not perfectly just. There is about a 1 Hz beat going on...
vibratingstring 7 months ago
古典調律ってこんなにカッコいいんですね。 ★人破乱:あも★
hitohalan 1 year ago
I enjoy Micheal's work - inspiring music!
clones98 1 year ago
Is this from a master tape?
pyromohanzed 1 year ago
Some intervals didn't sound right. They were too big or small, I won't say "out of tune" because in theory I suppose they weren't. But I have a question. What if you played a piece with complex key changes that all happen in the span of the work? Of course this is why just intonation comes into question, but what is; other than the "pure math"; the modern justification for this system? Pieces for equal temperament would sound out of tune, and vice versa. Sounds like a fight of principals to me.
the81stviewer 1 year ago
@the81stviewer if an interval is right or wrong is pureley subjective. just intonation sounds 'wrong' only because we are so accustomed to hearing the modern tuning. There can be no real justification for anything in music other than 'it sounds good'. They only sound 'out of tune' because we arent used to it.
frosty956 1 year ago
@frosty956 I personally think that the reason some intervals in different intonations sound, not necessarily incorrect, but extremely dissonant, is the same reason some intervals in equal temperament sound like that. It's just the way our brains interpret it, and no matter how much you try, I doubt you could get a song filled with minor seconds or microtonal clusters all over the place to sound happy and up-beat, it's just how our brain interprets the beating of the harmonies.
TheJeddyB 9 months ago
@the81stviewer Thats when you break out one of these bad boys with 211 notes per octave.
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kratanuva725 1 year ago
Beautifully done and a beautiful piece! So much more interesting and vibrant than equal temperament.
billcmartin 2 years ago
very interesting.
I still have a hard time distinguishing the difference, but very interesting points he makes.
emperorIng360 2 years ago
the tones are so vibrant and colorful
TheEarlOfDublin 2 years ago 4
It reminds me of gamelan. Very interesting. Thanx
Epogdous 2 years ago 2
Wonderful sound!
So it's basically non-tempered, if I understand it correctly? One can't help but think what a violation of nature the well-tempered clavier is
GreggaryPeccary 2 years ago 4
@GreggaryPeccary It's kind of funny phrasing it like that, around "natural", as if equal temperament is in any way 'natural' itself. Just at least aims for overtones, and clearer consonance than ET.
Stumpp3 1 year ago
@GreggaryPeccary
I don't know if it's really a 'violation of nature'. Is it a violation of nature to wear a coat in the winter?
colourfulwithaU 7 months ago
It's always incredible to listen to a "harmonic piano", it's different than what we are used to, but it's also somehow natural.
Thanks so much for posting and for the extended info.
Greetings from Spain ;)
Kike.
Stunt2one 2 years ago 2