Who the fuck are they to decide what substance We can use or not? Especially if it is a dumb ass hypocrite prohibitionist. Most so called recreational drugs have some health benefits . The government is so conserned with our health so they ban these substances and throw "Offenders" behind bars. Would you explain please WHY THE FUCK!! the most addictive and dangerous recreational drug that KILLS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DAILY is legal?Im talking about tobacco. What sort of idiocy is this?
Is it possible to get high of other ingredients in marijuana aside from THC? I ask because I used a vaporizer a while back and I BARELY felt anything, even my appetite wasn't changed that much at all
We were trying to get away from those videos that have loud music and quick-cut scenes of bongs and pot plants. We wanted this to be a serious video regarding the facts of pot use.
This is an excellent video, you might try adding some visual stimuli during your argument instead of just sitting in a chair, everythign else is there though.
In "my" opinion, all laws which prohibit the individual's freedom (sounds kinda like the constitution?) of free choice are unefforcible and there fore useless. The cost to try and enforce is a waste.
It is now the individual's "responsibilty" to use those choices wisely and accept the consequences of those choices.
To blame a criminal act because the individual was "under the influence," is irrelevant. The courts will decide if his actions were illegal based on law, not moral judgement.
To danaisduhbom: Also regarding your dismissal of the 1988 "study", it wasn't a study it was a finding by the DEA that pot was non-toxic and should be removed from schedule 1. It was a landmark admission by the government but due to political pressure was not acted upon.
to danaisduhbom: Your point on raising blood pressure is incorrect. Marijuana is classified as a mild vasodilator. "A vasodilator is a substance that causes blood vessels in the body to become wider by relaxing the smooth muscle in the vessel wall, or vasodilation. This will reduce blood pressure (since there is more room for the blood)". That's the reason pot is prescribed for glaucoma as it reduces intraocular pressure.
I will clarify my point on the prohibition of drugs. In 1929 the people of the USA outlawed alcohol. Enter government to combat this now illegal trade. That cost money. The consumption of alcohol actually increased due this "outlaw" tag. Flappers and Hip Cats now consumer vast quantities as recreational drinkers. Who made big bucks? Organized crime ( read Taliban? Mexican mafia.) If failed totally and was there for repealed and the government recouped a major revenue stream. More in next post.
To danaisduhbom: Your first point - at some point you have to believe in some of the studies. Had it been the other way around many anti-pot supporters would be pointing to such studies to bolster their claims. I don't believe there to be any "inherent bias".
Second - The 33 cups of coffee analogy is just to show that there are other drugs that are currently legal that can cause greater harm than pot can. Continued next post.
To Shutout: Driving under the influence of any substance should be illegal. The current test for marijuana is too sensetive .The THC remains in your blood stream for a month. A test which reads the inibreation level in real time will have to be delevoped.
If we are able to develop a test that can accurately measure the level of "high" someone is on the spot, like a breathalyzer, then I see no problem with legalizing it. Your video does a great job of differentiating pot from other more dangerous drugs. A lot of people make the "slippery slope" argument, and the best counter to this is to really emphasize the vast difference between pot and other drugs. If we can create jobs and tax the hell out of it to decrease the deficit, then lets do it.
I read up on this just now. Although it cannot be "toxic", large amounts of it are dangerous, and you can die from it in ways that don't involve toxicity or poisoning. THC raises the blood pressure to dangerous levels.
As for your second post.. not sure I entirely understand what you're saying, it's a bit jumbled. (failed attempt at humor--->) were you high when you posted that?
Answer shutout's question too please, I'm curious.
It did not work in the 1920 and 30s and just look at the carnage due to the drug cartels now. All ther money spent on the drug war and the revenue available if it were taxed would solve a lot of budget.
I have a question, and I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with your video, this just happens to be something I've wondered for a while. Alcohol is fairly easy to police with regards to drunk driving. BAC is a very easy thing to measure. Do you think "high" driving would be a problem if weed were legalized? Is there a quantitative way to measure how "high" someone is? All drug tests I know of are done in a lab, which obviously is very expensive and inconvenient.
Sorry that this is out of order and sounding so angry, but I rewatched it and found one thing I can't leave alone.
Using a drug study from 1988 is total bull#@%$.
Just like advancements in technology, advancements in medicine come fast. 21 years is well past expiration. Especially when you stated later in the video that marijuana has become five times stronger in the last 30 years.
One thing that you seem to ignore, or simply not know, is that the potency of THC in a marijuana plant, plain and simple, doesn't matter. The University of Mississippi, the University which monitors average marijuana potency for the past 3 decades, has said that marijuana today (2009, so not exactly today, but you get the picture) is at about 5% THC. In Washington D.C. and Maryland, two areas were marijuana is legal for medicinal purposes, a medical patient can get a drug called "Marinol", which
is the medicinal form of marijuana, and contains 100% THC. I find it funny how the same people who are talking about how dangerous potent marijuana is are the same ones giving the purest form on the market, legal or not.
I do agree that marijuana users should not be treated the same as hardcore criminals. I do agree that marijuana should not be on this "schedule 1" list of drugs. I do agree that there are more harmful things out there that are legal, and even prescribed. I don't deny the fact that it has medicinal benefits, but I don't necessarily think the benefits outweigh the risks.
second cont.: because marijuana can be concentrated and has stronger, more desired affects with concentration, it is much easier to overdose, and would be easy to do by mistake.
I'm sure there was more I would have liked to rebut, but I don't remember it all.. I'll take a moment to type what I agree with so I get less hate. (next comment....)
First, any study concerning marijuana and how it affects people as a "gateway drug" is going to have inherit bias. Studying illegal activities is hard, sources are from generally shady people and can't always be trusted, and nobody would admit to illegal activity..
second, your comparison to caffeine use and abuse does not make any sense. Drinking 33 cups of coffee faster than the body could neutralize the caffeine is near impossible, and nobody would do it for any reason other than suicide.
I know i'm going to get flamed by everyone else watching this because they all want what you want.. or they wouldn't be watching... But here are my thoughts:
Although most of what you say is true, not all of it is. Not all the studies were unbiased, and the logic applied to your facts to make your points does not always make sense.
Awesome vid. This is a very reasonable approach in evaluating marijuana's place in society. It's nice to see the comparisons to FDA-approved drugs too.
The AMA just revised their policy on marijuana. They no longer support its status as a Schedule I drug in the United States and they are urging that it be reconsidered as a potential medical drug via clinical research. This is a complete reversal in their policy and removes one of the government's most significant supporters of prohibition.
its fucking crazy! its even worse in sweden then in the us. my friend got busted for cannabis in his blood. he didn't even have it on him and he got into a lot of trouble.
Who the fuck are they to decide what substance We can use or not? Especially if it is a dumb ass hypocrite prohibitionist. Most so called recreational drugs have some health benefits . The government is so conserned with our health so they ban these substances and throw "Offenders" behind bars. Would you explain please WHY THE FUCK!! the most addictive and dangerous recreational drug that KILLS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DAILY is legal?Im talking about tobacco. What sort of idiocy is this?
PhysiologicAli 6 months ago
Well done ! :)
elaineand3 7 months ago
law is for the governed people,not all the people.
semiLivedj 1 year ago
Is it possible to get high of other ingredients in marijuana aside from THC? I ask because I used a vaporizer a while back and I BARELY felt anything, even my appetite wasn't changed that much at all
Hardstyle1229 2 years ago
We were trying to get away from those videos that have loud music and quick-cut scenes of bongs and pot plants. We wanted this to be a serious video regarding the facts of pot use.
Endoloid 2 years ago
This is an excellent video, you might try adding some visual stimuli during your argument instead of just sitting in a chair, everythign else is there though.
lovedalord88 2 years ago
How do your fellow high-schoolers feel about this?
Endoloid 2 years ago
I would like to thank you for the lively debate.
One last point.
I am a colledge educated profession, I have a full time job and make a very good salary. I would imagine you are pretty much the same.
You can come home after a ahrd day and crack open a cold, but I can't light up a joint. What is wrong with this picture?
A "morally based law" says it wrong to use marijuana. Does this not seem hypocritcal?
This is the entire point of this video.
Thank you again for the discource.
heyyou1965 2 years ago
Dunno why I feel the need to add this, but I'm actually a Junior in high school...
danaisduhbom 2 years ago
Hey, we all have to start some place. Did you learn anything?
heyyou1965 2 years ago
I wasn't making an excuse for ignorance... ugh nevermind..
danaisduhbom 2 years ago
@heyyou1965 Legalize the safest most non Toxic plant on earth!!!
5tonyvvvv 1 year ago
bingo
lovedalord88 2 years ago
In "my" opinion, all laws which prohibit the individual's freedom (sounds kinda like the constitution?) of free choice are unefforcible and there fore useless. The cost to try and enforce is a waste.
It is now the individual's "responsibilty" to use those choices wisely and accept the consequences of those choices.
To blame a criminal act because the individual was "under the influence," is irrelevant. The courts will decide if his actions were illegal based on law, not moral judgement.
heyyou1965 2 years ago
To danaisduhbom: Also regarding your dismissal of the 1988 "study", it wasn't a study it was a finding by the DEA that pot was non-toxic and should be removed from schedule 1. It was a landmark admission by the government but due to political pressure was not acted upon.
Endoloid 2 years ago
to danaisduhbom: Your point on raising blood pressure is incorrect. Marijuana is classified as a mild vasodilator. "A vasodilator is a substance that causes blood vessels in the body to become wider by relaxing the smooth muscle in the vessel wall, or vasodilation. This will reduce blood pressure (since there is more room for the blood)". That's the reason pot is prescribed for glaucoma as it reduces intraocular pressure.
Endoloid 2 years ago
I will clarify my point on the prohibition of drugs. In 1929 the people of the USA outlawed alcohol. Enter government to combat this now illegal trade. That cost money. The consumption of alcohol actually increased due this "outlaw" tag. Flappers and Hip Cats now consumer vast quantities as recreational drinkers. Who made big bucks? Organized crime ( read Taliban? Mexican mafia.) If failed totally and was there for repealed and the government recouped a major revenue stream. More in next post.
heyyou1965 2 years ago
Second (continued) - Even with increasing potency of pot you still don't run the risk of deadly overdose (it isn't even possible).
Endoloid 2 years ago
To danaisduhbom: Your first point - at some point you have to believe in some of the studies. Had it been the other way around many anti-pot supporters would be pointing to such studies to bolster their claims. I don't believe there to be any "inherent bias".
Second - The 33 cups of coffee analogy is just to show that there are other drugs that are currently legal that can cause greater harm than pot can. Continued next post.
Endoloid 2 years ago
To Shutout: Driving under the influence of any substance should be illegal. The current test for marijuana is too sensetive .The THC remains in your blood stream for a month. A test which reads the inibreation level in real time will have to be delevoped.
Getting loaded and not being responsible
heyyou1965 2 years ago
If we are able to develop a test that can accurately measure the level of "high" someone is on the spot, like a breathalyzer, then I see no problem with legalizing it. Your video does a great job of differentiating pot from other more dangerous drugs. A lot of people make the "slippery slope" argument, and the best counter to this is to really emphasize the vast difference between pot and other drugs. If we can create jobs and tax the hell out of it to decrease the deficit, then lets do it.
shutout20038 2 years ago
@heyyou1965 They already have tests that can determine the ratio of THC metabolites in your blood to determine when marijuana was last used.
clairishe 1 year ago
@clairishe Can you provide more information on the is new test?
heyyou1965 1 year ago
I read up on this just now. Although it cannot be "toxic", large amounts of it are dangerous, and you can die from it in ways that don't involve toxicity or poisoning. THC raises the blood pressure to dangerous levels.
As for your second post.. not sure I entirely understand what you're saying, it's a bit jumbled. (failed attempt at humor--->) were you high when you posted that?
Answer shutout's question too please, I'm curious.
danaisduhbom 2 years ago
It did not work in the 1920 and 30s and just look at the carnage due to the drug cartels now. All ther money spent on the drug war and the revenue available if it were taxed would solve a lot of budget.
heyyou1965 2 years ago
I have a question, and I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with your video, this just happens to be something I've wondered for a while. Alcohol is fairly easy to police with regards to drunk driving. BAC is a very easy thing to measure. Do you think "high" driving would be a problem if weed were legalized? Is there a quantitative way to measure how "high" someone is? All drug tests I know of are done in a lab, which obviously is very expensive and inconvenient.
shutout20038 2 years ago
The concentration of THC through breeding still does not make it toxic. Even today, there have been NO recorded overdoses due to THC.
heyyou1965 2 years ago
Sorry that this is out of order and sounding so angry, but I rewatched it and found one thing I can't leave alone.
Using a drug study from 1988 is total bull#@%$.
Just like advancements in technology, advancements in medicine come fast. 21 years is well past expiration. Especially when you stated later in the video that marijuana has become five times stronger in the last 30 years.
danaisduhbom 2 years ago
One thing that you seem to ignore, or simply not know, is that the potency of THC in a marijuana plant, plain and simple, doesn't matter. The University of Mississippi, the University which monitors average marijuana potency for the past 3 decades, has said that marijuana today (2009, so not exactly today, but you get the picture) is at about 5% THC. In Washington D.C. and Maryland, two areas were marijuana is legal for medicinal purposes, a medical patient can get a drug called "Marinol", which
rockona7xx 2 years ago
(contd)
is the medicinal form of marijuana, and contains 100% THC. I find it funny how the same people who are talking about how dangerous potent marijuana is are the same ones giving the purest form on the market, legal or not.
rockona7xx 2 years ago
I do agree that marijuana users should not be treated the same as hardcore criminals. I do agree that marijuana should not be on this "schedule 1" list of drugs. I do agree that there are more harmful things out there that are legal, and even prescribed. I don't deny the fact that it has medicinal benefits, but I don't necessarily think the benefits outweigh the risks.
danaisduhbom 2 years ago
second cont.: because marijuana can be concentrated and has stronger, more desired affects with concentration, it is much easier to overdose, and would be easy to do by mistake.
I'm sure there was more I would have liked to rebut, but I don't remember it all.. I'll take a moment to type what I agree with so I get less hate. (next comment....)
danaisduhbom 2 years ago
First, any study concerning marijuana and how it affects people as a "gateway drug" is going to have inherit bias. Studying illegal activities is hard, sources are from generally shady people and can't always be trusted, and nobody would admit to illegal activity..
second, your comparison to caffeine use and abuse does not make any sense. Drinking 33 cups of coffee faster than the body could neutralize the caffeine is near impossible, and nobody would do it for any reason other than suicide.
danaisduhbom 2 years ago
I know i'm going to get flamed by everyone else watching this because they all want what you want.. or they wouldn't be watching... But here are my thoughts:
Although most of what you say is true, not all of it is. Not all the studies were unbiased, and the logic applied to your facts to make your points does not always make sense.
more in next comment... stupid character limit...
danaisduhbom 2 years ago
just decided i'm NEVER goin to sweeden
drewsmom1000 2 years ago
Great video!! True and effective points. Love the ganja. :]
mUNkEeREaPEr 2 years ago
Awesome vid. This is a very reasonable approach in evaluating marijuana's place in society. It's nice to see the comparisons to FDA-approved drugs too.
The AMA just revised their policy on marijuana. They no longer support its status as a Schedule I drug in the United States and they are urging that it be reconsidered as a potential medical drug via clinical research. This is a complete reversal in their policy and removes one of the government's most significant supporters of prohibition.
mike12489 2 years ago
AMEN
TonyXXX94 2 years ago
AMEN!
TonyXXX94 2 years ago
very well done good job
xXKRoweXx 2 years ago
its fucking crazy! its even worse in sweden then in the us. my friend got busted for cannabis in his blood. he didn't even have it on him and he got into a lot of trouble.
FryNdie 2 years ago
wow that was tight...
skeet257 2 years ago
Simple yet effective! Good job on the video.
hannelotta 2 years ago
I absolutely agree with the first two comments!
oRiGiNaLMrTOM 2 years ago
excellent video
ALITL8 2 years ago
Awsome vid and we do need to look at our laws.
shersondf 2 years ago