Bill Maher: Who is Saul Alinsky? And Why do Republicans Make Obama into a President He is Not?

[Hapshetsut28]

I love this guy. L.O.L.

[HoOGenghisB]

Thats actually the best political analysis that I've seen to date. Bravo!

[AliceNchainz011]

Who's the chick with glasses?

[HoOGenghisB]

@AliceNchainz011 you don't want to know...

[A86]

I'm a leftist and I didn't know who the fuck Saul Alinsky was either. Republicans kept bringing up that name and I eventually just Wikipedia-ed the guy's name to find out who the fuck it was they kept yammering about and WTF he had to do with socialism or Obama.

[bobbyjwoodruff]

@A86  Exactly what we all did... well, everybody except Maher who loves his ignorance....

[dirint]

Ron Paul 2012!! Obama Predator Drone Killing US Citizens without Due Process. Passing NDAA to Indefinitely Detain American Citizens without Due Process. Highest Unemployment Rate (nearing 16%). Starting another Unconstitutional War just like Bush! (Prolonging Iraq, and now moving in to take Iran.)

[booley]

@drfertig that might be racism. Or it could have been that people like Gingrich didn't think of using Alinsky as a boogy man until a while ago.

Indeed, the tea party has used some of the tactics from his book so apparently they didn't have a problem with him.

[seanwue]

Lol bill maher rules

[kotapaka]

Bill Maher for president!

[Neosaigo]

Who the hell is Saul Alinsky?... That was exactly my question when I watched this episode before...

I really hope it haven't gotten this bad inside the bubble, it is depressing to think people can still be this ignorant in this day and age.

[nalani005]

INK222 Where the fuck do you get your ideas. Holy Shit

[HNK222]

I have been leftwing my whole life and NEVER heard the name "Saul Alinsky" mentioned by anyone who wasn't a rightwing asshole!

I doubt any liberals or progressives ever heard of this guy until batshit crazy conservatives found out an obscure white liberal from decades ago helped black people & decided he MUST be important to President Obama!

BUT, remember, rightwingers aren't racist! It's Obama's corporatist rightwing, Wall Street-serving policies they hate not his skin!

[sincityscott]

This is quintessential Maher. He nails the bullshit out of it! I just had this argument at the gym: TP/GOP guy says to me: "Obama hasn't done a fuckin' thing"! So, I say "Didn't he pass the largest health insurance law in history that Liberals have been trying to pass for 70 years?!

He says; "yeah but.."

I say; "didn't he save the entire Auto industry and millions of jobs?" He said; "Maybe"

I say; "and kill Osama bin Laden"- and he says "NO! He has nothin' to do wit dat"

I say- "wait, isn't he

[sincityscott]

@sincityscott Continued:

the commander-in-chief?" He says; "Yeah but the CIA does that stuff.." and I reply, "I bet he was consulted...asked for his opinion?" He said "no". ( of course he's wrong as hell, but OK)

I go on; "D.A.D.T. repealed!" He says "big fuckin' deal".

So I say; "made the Banks pay back all of Bush's TARP money, that Bush didn't even ask for!" (I could've gone on and on)

He says; "the banks! Don't talk to me about the banks- your boy is owned by Wall St.!" So I say, "I gotta

[mbenzesq]

i have never seen a bill maher episode that did not turn every liberal/conservative dynamic into the same, tired race & "fear of black people" motif. you guys really buy this crap?

[TheNinjaPicker]

Oh I get it now Republicans are racist, thats a new twist on things Billy, cutting edge here people!

[rboltt]

One redeeming quality of the right-wing trash: Researching the subject of the shit they spew and then you become smarter in the discovery of the facts.

[GinTheHallow]

bill is such a brainwasher, obama did raise taxes by raising the debt ceiling and forces us to pay more on inflation. Inflation is a tax u fuck stick.

[sincityscott]

@GinTheHallow A total misunderstanding of what the Debt-Ceiling is! Taxes on regular Americans is at it's lowest point IN :HISTORY! and the Debt-Ceiling has NOT ONE thing to do w/ federal income taxes, it is merely upping the Credit Limit that allows the US Gov't to pay our debts (Stuff we owe money on!) And "inflation" is also at historic lows and has been for all three years of Obama's Presidency!! And is NOT A "TAX"-

Go ahead, try again.........................­............

[TurtleMother1]

Just shows how uninformed Bill is! He's been drinking Kool-Aid and didn't even know it. Wise up!

[HelloherExists]

"Slashing the military" - Genius

[gigmeister53]

Why Saul Alinsky, Republicans? Is the constant mention of Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright not working for you anymore?

[swlabr21]

I'm not sure who sucks more, obama or Maher.

[albatros12]

@swlabr21

hahahahaha

[gregwi562]

@swlabr21 I know...it sucks when people like them buzz kill by presenting facts to ruin your fantasies and myths.

[Blackman1000ify]

@swlabr21 I think trolls like you suck more than both of them.

[MajorMovieStar]

Favorited !I know and admire some great republicans but I am sick of the new breed of rethuglicans that have taken over. Obama 2012!

[whtwuzhzothrlegnamed]

It's actually part of the Reagan revisionism...Saul Alinsky appears prominently in one of Reagan's anti-communist yarns, he (Reagan) claimed they actually knew each other from the 1930's.

[bobbyjwoodruff]

@whtwuzhzothrlegnamed

WOW! Yours is a fantastic and outrageous claim. Of course you can back that statement up with SOMETHING... right? A link, something?

[MarcinCalifornia]

Too funny.

[angel1949]

Sounds like my kind of guy.

[catzbarking]

"Post reporter Nicholas von Hoffman, who wrote Radical: A Portrait of Saul Alinsky.

"Von Hoffman, who before becoming a journalist worked alongside Alinsky from 1953 to 1962, said Alinsky fought for fair working conditions, affordable housing and any cause that "boiled down to one thing: organizing people so they have a decent shake."

......Oh so "radical"!

[Tralfaz666]

Saul Alinsky was a great man. Chris Matthews talked about him the other night, as well.

[booley]

The conservatives (and by extension Republicans) have been propping up straw men for years. They do it to everyone.

Remember ACORN who was this evil organization who were forming an army of poor people who were voting in multiple states (millions of times apparently) and smuggling child sex slaves?

The ACORN in reality was none of that. But it didn't (and still doesn't) stop cons from attacking it as such.

[johnosier1]

Sad part is too many Americans and replublican supporters believe the fictitious fodder that Fox spews as fact.

[Saebeck32]

Bill is right once again. The Fox News Tea Party is a disgrace to America.

[bobbyjwoodruff]

@johnosier1 @Saebeck32

No joke, who the heck is Saul Alinsky anyway? Hiillary Clinton did her senior thesis on him; too bad she kept information about that under lock and key... if it was public information back when, Maher and you guys wouldn't be so late to your own game.

[booley]

@bobbyjwoodruff wait, Hillery Clinton has some kind of secret information about some guy we never heard of?

You make something she wrote years ago in college sound like the necronomicon or the Da Vinci code.

[bobbyjwoodruff]

@booley

No... my point is simply Maher is the ignorant boob in the room.

It's one thing to just be ignorant, it's another to be proud of that ignorance like Maher is. The ONLY people that remotely think he's funny here are people that are so lazy, they never looked up "Alinsky" after all the media talk about him. Come to think of it, that explains the laughter... Maher's audience is indeed made up of lazy ignoramuses.

[booley]

@bobbyjwoodruff Ok But for your point to be valid you have to not have gotten Maher's point so very very wrong.

For instance "they never looked up "Alinsky" after all the media talk about him."

except clearly they did. Maher did it right here. And that was part of the point. For all the talk about the influence of Alinsky in Liberal politics, no one had heard of him until AFTER cons began ranting that Liberals were all "Alinkyites"

In short, cons live in a fantasy land.

[booley]

@bobbyjwoodruff Not to mention your phrase "she kept information about that under lock and key" just sounds dumb. Sorry but it does. It's not like Saul Alinsky is the illuminati. Anything one want sot know about him is public record.

So what exactly is Hillary Clinton keeping under "Lock and Key'?

[bobbyjwoodruff]

@booley You typed: "Not to mention your phrase 'she kept information about that under lock and key' just sounds dumb. Sorry but it does."

Then do some research. I don't envy you after you do, because you are going to have a LOT of egg on your face, because that statement is factual.

Your previous statement saying "no one had heard of him until after[...]" ALSO SHOWS YOUR IGNORANCE when Hillary's thesis really was on Alinsky.

Boy, when you're wrong, you like to be REALLY wrong.

[booley]

@bobbyjwoodruff Research what? Your crazy conspiracy theory that Hillery clinton is orchestrating some secret cabal based on someone who few have ever hear of?

Hillery Clinton writing a paper on a historical figure and that person being a spiritual messiah for Liberals are 2 very different things.

IF even you cant' make your own argument, why should I?

[bobbyjwoodruff]

@booley

Research the truth of the statement I made that you claimed sounded dumb. You lost focus awfully fast... you doing drugs? I ask because you not only don't seem to have the ability to concentrate on a topic, but you seem to drift off into crazy religious conspiracy crap. Don't tell me, you're a Ron Paul fan. Call me clairvoyant. LOL

[booley]

@bobbyjwoodruff wait what you are saying is you can't back up your own claim so you want me to waste time trying to prove your argument for you.

And dodging the fact that you are tryign to get me to beleive what sound sliek a conspiracy by accusing me of spreading a conspiracy theory? Seriously? What "conspiracy" am I spreading? The conspiracy of "there is conspiracy concerning clinton and Alinsky"?

I mean, straw man much?

Yeah.. whatever.

[bobbyjwoodruff]

@booley

Everything I said about Clinton and Alinsky is factually correct and easily verifiable.

You went off on this conspiracy/religion rant... I don't know why... I don't try to figure out the borderline insane mind... I was just pointing out you seemed more than a little distracted by your own demons.

[booley]

@bobbyjwoodruff "Everything I said about Clinton and Alinsky is factually correct"

I guess it's easy to beleive that when you haven't actually said anything.

[bobbyjwoodruff]

@booley Learn to read.

[booley]

@bobbyjwoodruff learn to what? That there's some secret vault where Hillery Clinton keeps her college thesis? Or that you don't like Bill Maher? OR how about the way you think making some insinuation and then bitching because people who point out how dumb you sound aren't randomly fishing the internet to make your case is "debating"

You were so busy being an insulting douche, you never bothered to actually say anything.

[bobbyjwoodruff]

@booley Learn to reason. What I typed is still correct.

(hmmm, maybe you are right... maybe it was a combination lock....)

You're an idiot... LOL

[booley]

maybe I confused you with the big words.

or maybe you're some computerized troll program that randomly responds to posts. You only have a weak simulation of thought & that's why your responses have nothing to do with what I actually wrote.

Or maybe you're just another INTERNET WARRIOR!!!! that when confronted by his own lack of an intelligent dialogue hides behind calling people "an idiot" (it's a kind of projection/defense mechanism that's quite common, esp on you tube.)

Cont'd

[booley]

@bobbyjwoodruff But inc ase it was the first and youa re simply slow... let me repeat my point.

Sayign that everythign you typed is correct is not only BS it misses the point.

I wasn't questionign the bulk of fdacts you presented because you didn't present any facts other then Hillary Clinton wrote a thesis on Alinsky decades ago.

SO WHAT?

cont'd

[booley]

@bobbyjwoodruff You try to make this sound sinister by saying the thesis was "under lock and key" but in fact it had publically available since Hillery stopped being first lady. People like you heard it was once restricted & thought that was some kind of conspiracy to hide some secret agenda on her part. But it wasn't, wasn't all that laudatory of ALinsky & even if it had been so what? Even cons think he was an organizational genius.

In short, you're just talking out your ass.

[bobbyjwoodruff]

@booley

Not until 2007, and if you read the article by the person who finally got to see it, you'll find he got a hell of a lot of refusal, doubletalk, and stonewalling.. but the guy was from MSNBC and wasn't going to give up.

See articles by Bill Dedman, msnbc.com for verification.

Of course, the Clintons and/or Wellesley modified the "facts" a bit on Wikipedia, which you must have read, so now you have source.

Any way you cut it, Maher in 2012 is an ignorant boob, and proud of it.