Plane Crash Alaska 261 ATC Audio(HQ)

[Graffenwehr]

I watch Air Crash Investigation out of interest - but this is the ONLY one that I turn off from being sick about what happened. If there is no greater evidence against CORPORATE GREED, it must be AK261. This country needs to wake up and realize that there is more than money in life.

I wish all their souls, and the hearts of their family peace. God help us.

[SunriseHealthFoods]

this is why people distrust md 80s

[punctualbird]

subtitles, mother fukcers

[baychecks100]

"IN A DIVE" alaska 261 say again "VERTICAL PITCH" alaska 261 un say again "IN A VERTICAL DIVE HERE"  alaska 261 say again sir " LOST VERTICAL CONTROL OF OUR AIRPLANE" alaska 261 right? AT 237 REQUEST..." alaska 261 say your condition " AT 24000FT OPEN YOUR EYES! OH BLOW IT OUT YER ASS, WISH I COULD SHOOT YA, GET ME A GLOCK

[waterman1976]

insufficent lubrication of jackscrew assembly...apparently, kikes were involved with aircraft maintenance at the time

[felixfelicis888]

@waterman1976 ignorant comment.

[zorak950]

Besides the obvious horror of being in the accident craft, I feel bad for the pilots (and any passengers) of the other planes that watched it happen. How helpless they must have felt, just relaying the plane's condition to ATC right up to and including impact. And they couldn't stop to absorb it, either, because they still had aircraft to fly and passengers to get to their destination.

[Primevals33]

What do you expect. Most of the maintenance are out sourced to Filipino crews. I know this 1st hand because I work at SFO....

[Primevals33]

What do you expect. Most of the maintenance are out sourced to Filipino crews. I know this 1st hand because I work at SFO....

[cottagechskitty]

What always strikes me is how CALM the pilots are. The pilot was so calm that I think it threw ATC off a bit. As in "wait. What did you say?"

[NorthForkFisherman]

@cottagechskitty The first job of the flight crew is to fly the plane. They can't afford to panic.

[smithywick]

screw jack failure ye.. this was on air crash investigation series.. god bless all on board ;-(

[smithywick]

was this on air crash investigation?? was this the screw jack failure plane???

[thenekom]

He's... ok :(

[mojofuel62]

Good Christ! The cool the Captain of the plane exhibited when in the first vertical dive is a testament to his professionalism. May he and his passengers R.I.P.

[VicariousReality7]

''HQ''

lolno.

[0884780]

that is so sad that people die because the planes can control with the drivers and also that is why i dont fly ok

[0884780]

that is so sad that people die because the planes can control with the drivers

[maleslave1]

greed thats all ceo's care about them selfs only

[denbocasan]

This what happens to an airline that cuts corners just to save money!

[singapore7773]

@denbocasan the airline didnt cut corners, the govt. minimums changed.

[denbocasan]

@singapore7773 what gov't minimums? what role do they play in this disaster? Its the Alaska airline management who are at fault, they're meant to provide safety to passengers. Was there a law from the govt that stopped this?

[singapore7773]

@denbocasan what gov't minimums? do u think airlines make up their own rules? or do u think gov't has oversight and regulations? when this accident happened, i lived in LA. I thought i remember reading that the govt changed the amount of wear allowed on the jack screw. And that alaska was with in the requirements on there last maintenance check. That was about 10yrs ago or more, so i may be mistaken.

[UdallIn72]

@denbocasan

The maintenance regime Alaska was compliant with the regulations.

They did as much as the government required at the time.

That doesn't mean the airline can't be faulted, though. The government may only require you to do X, but concern for your customers (and, as the case may be, the law of negligence) may require you to do X+1.

[BonniePLC]

@singapore7773 the govt minimums did change, but this airline DID cut corners in this instance and they were even falsifying records, which led to an FAA and FBI investigation

[singapore7773]

@BonniePLC cool, thx, i work for the govt. we never falsify records, thats for sure, LOL

[spyromatt]

crashed @ 217.24knots = 402.34 kph. R.I.P. to crew and passengers

[possum440]

The mechanic that was superceded by the supervisor was cleared of all charges. The mechanic grounded the aircraft due to a "dangerously worn jack screw", the airline superceded him upon finding out and told the supervisor to sign off on it until the next service if he felt it was ok, the supervisor did this. The mechanic would not sign off on it. You see the results of an airline wanting money over safety and regs.

[MissWooHoo1]

this is disturbing

[Randy4806]

One thing to remember that maintenance is very important. I feel for the pilots respectfully

[encinobalboa]

Easy to say this in hindsight. They should have diverted to Edwards and left the stabilizer alone. Edwards has miles and miles of runway to land a crippled airplane. RIP.

[encinobalboa]

They should have diverted to Edwards and left the stabilizer alone. Edwards has miles and miles of runway to land. RIP.

[Chicken57]

1. Was the horizontal stabilizer design changed (in terms of strength and surface area) from the original "DC-9-10" series to accommodate the aerodynamic rigors of the stretched MD-83 design?

2. Was the horizontal stabilizer actually built in the U.S., as opposed to China?

3. If it was built in China, were adequate quality control measures in place to guarantee safety?

[zeroturbulence]

@Chicken57 It wasn't the design of the stabilizer. It was lack of lubrication on the jackscrew that caused it to jam and malfunction. The FDA now requires that they be lubricated more frequently.

[CMDRSweeper]

@zeroturbulence If they had lubricated it as per the manual it would have been fine.

But Alaska airlines filed it as a repair that had been done, while they actually hadn't done anything, letting it roll for the next cycle.

The miracle is that it held up for as long as it did, but those pilots were heroes until the end. They never gave up, trying to fly the thing inverted is a proof of that.

[malcolmjacobson]

Just imagine being one of the pilots in those other planes and having to watch that happen, and then fly on and land like normal. Amazing professionalism.

[pabobfin]

Lack of 50 cents worth of grease on the jack screw and shitty maintenance on that part. Mechanics killed the people by laziness.

[hidentake]

That was a very sad and tragic event. The pilots of that aircraft were very brave and professional despite the horrific circumstance they found themselves in. Going nose down, and inverted for 81 seconds was forever, because everyone knew what was to come after a few seconds of the final dive.

Thanks for posting because this served as a reminder to me of how fragile, and yet precious life is. Gotta live it to its fullest to the end.

[AUgrad00]

Sad thing is a mechanic for air alaska turned in them to the faa for their maintence

record as a whistleblower but this still happened...

[rigrunner247]

@AUgrad00 believe it or not ....because he blew the whistle on his company his flight career anywhere in aviation or the government for that matter is over. Can anyone make sence of that.

[funnyfootballs]

OMG that's horrible!! Try have that feeling knowing that you are gonna die

I kinda felt it when I heard that man cry..

[MsS0NIC]

@funnyfootballs when was that ?

[funnyfootballs]

@MsS0NIC arhh never mind it just sounds like someone cries

[carnigey]

They went inverted before crashing, they had to have been terrified

[iloveyourstory]

Wow this is so sad...why God?

[krsi3]

@iloveyourstory no one knows sometimes is just....

[walkinwithjesus]

@iloveyourstory why God? Because God is not real. You should ask why AA mechanics tried to take shortcuts. This is life and shit happens.

[AubreyBryan]

This is a tragedy.

[ejuoi]

If I remember correctly the checklist they used caused them to actually totally break the jack screw and that they might have had some control if they didn't do their emergency checklist. Is this correct??

[Suzyqs]

Alaska Airlines is an evil company. I will never fly with them. There was no reason for this crash.

[Scandinavian92]

what was that "definetely out of control" -Very good** ?

[mondiablue]

This seems especially terrible to me. They tried so hard and had no chance.

[thenekom]

@mondiablue Makes you almost wish they just went down immediately, instead of suffering. But that's what pilots do, they don't stop trying to fly the plane until they are actually dead. As long as they live, they try everything they've got.

[browneyes4]

very sad

[vonkiser]

yea I had 2 co workers on this flight coming back from thier honeymoon......

[costonis]

Just a note, I had a great friend and Doctor on this Flight. Dr. Ferris was his name. A great a man a huge loss, no greater than the loss of any one else on the plane, but his memory lives on with me. RIP Dr. Ferris.

[robertD4SarahPalin]

One of my former classmates was on that plane but when it wAs on it's way to Mexico.

[alexsnowman25]

im in ak and i dident even hear of this whats the

cause of this plane crash?

[loch70]

read the info = )

[badgerattoadhall]

it was off CA in 2009 it was alaska airlines cutting corners exesive wear of a jackscrew

[katana1150]

The Crash of Alaska Airlines flight 261 was on January 31 2000 of the coast of California near Anacapa Island.

My sister was onboard this aircraft a month before the crash

[badgerattoadhall]

yes 2000, not 2009 force of habit it was 2009 when i wrote that.

[Sanpedranoazul]

Lack of lubrication on that screw, saw it yesterday on Natgeo.

[linoleumcarving]

upside down !

what a shity way to slow die.

So what was the cause of this plane crash ????

[agcatdriver]

Jack screw failure on the horizontal stabilizer, if I remember correctly.

[StratMatt777]

@agcatdriver Jack screw failure due to Alaska maintenance failing to oil the jack screw and the maintenance supervisor documenting that the work had been done.

That man should be in prison, but that was one man- I would not call Alaska Airlines an evil airline by any means. They lost many of their friends in addition to the tragic loss of passengers. That maintenance manager should be serving a life sentence.

[Dolphin8097]

@agcatdriver yes that was caused by a lack of lubrication

[volvo4377]

@agcatdriver it took a heroic effort for those pilots to fly that plane for as long as they did with that stabilizer failing. professional until the very end.

[AllanVictoriaA]

@agcatdriver

That is correct. As I recall they determined that inadequate lubrication caused the jack screw to seize in the nut and ultimately strip the threads from the nut. RIP to all on board.

[cubes887]

@agcatdriver No grease the bastard engeneers

[Tampaslice]

@agcatdriver Airline was so broke they neglected to grease the huge screw that controlled the elevators.  After the crash they checked the other planes of theirs and many were found in the same horrible condition. Too broke to buy grease?

[MASON1246]

@agcatdriver Yep

[jsb4life]

@linoleumcarving

Rear stabilizer Jack screw failure due to lack of lubrication caused by lack of maintenance.

[adragon06]

@linoleumcarving the horizontal stabilizer, they didnt maintaine it .

[geoffphuket]

@linoleumcarving The real cause of the accident was the company saving money and not carrying out a proper service schedule to the aircraft

[peteisnotneat]

@linoleumcarving The jackscrew was stripped due to shady maitenance.

[avionicswirenut]

@peteisnotneat Just think now days most heavy maint is subbed out to who knows...Not sure if it was 60 minutes that did a story on airline maint.....The final comment on that show was why are all maint people not liscensed...I worked on avionics 21 years without an A/P...I worked around liscensed A/P mechanics about 8 of those 21 years....Most of the time I would not let one of those guys touch my car much less a plane...You cannot teach common sense in any school..

[peteisnotneat]

@avionicswirenut It's sad, but true. Fewer and fewer companies handle maitenence internally.

[BigCJFan]

@linoleumcarving Alaska Airlines became so damn greedy that they wouldn't spend the money to lubricate a crucial screw. The crash was completely avoidable.

[RickMakesGoodVideos]

@BigCJFan they didn't even apologize for this.

[stegatops1]

The maintenance crew didnt grease the sodding jack screw that operates the vertical stabiliser......it rubbed raw grinding metal against metal and they stripped the thread off, causing it to fail. The whole rear elevator fell off, the plane flipped upside down and they crashed into the sea at 300 G's. So 50c of grease brought down an MD80. But the whole tail design is a design flaw........it requires 3 remote points of contact instead of 1......give me a 737 anyday. This plane is a bitch.

[aviationwingnut]

I used to fly on Alaska Airlines MD-80's all the time from San Diego to Seattle and back. I've often wondered if I had actually flown on this accident aircraft.

[BashkirianAirlines]

the registration of the aircraft is N963AS