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  • The man conducting the discussion is a free mason, he is performing their hand's signs. Illuminati uses their agents as biblical teachers or researchers around the world. They pretend to be Christians and with Christians while in fact their but is to lead unconscionably Christians to the New World Order. Beware of the new age proliferation of biblical teachers, professors and so on, something seems not right, even though they say some truth, please don't let them corrupt your mind and spirit.

  • @savebygrace12 Really, everything is not a conspiracy geez!

  • @cqgmickey

    True, but some are.

  • @savebygrace12 I agree, but these men are not on that. I know one of them personally, they teach the bible and are not Christians, far from it. Christianity is the lie, what they teach is the truth. You would have to study the text to realize that, and a lot of pple don't study. Nevertheless, these men are not on what you my think.

  • @cqgmickey

    Christianity is not a lie! Christianity is the quality of Life and the only way, [through Jesus Christ] to reconciliation with God, to be saved and to go to Heaven. But your paganism is a lie and an abomination.

    What I think about these men is the truth and no one can come against the Truth. If Christianity was really a lie as you claim, why then 'these men" have to waste their time teaching "the so called lie"???

    My friend you statement does not make sense!

  • @savebygrace12 You my friend don't realize how deep the rabbit whole goes. You don't study, because if you did you would know that Christianity is a lie. These men do believe this very thing, you should go on their website and read some of their articles and watch some of their lesson. You have been deceived, christianity is so far from the truth of the bible, words can't express. My comment is coming from me, these men are far from mason symbols and mess.

  • @cqgmickey

    It is just curious about your comments, is it coming from you and from " other people"?

    I know some youtube channels are under attacked for some reasons.

  • @savebygrace12 B. Please start studying for yourself and remove what you been taught because it's a lie. You will not go to heaven, the kingdom will be here on earth. Believing in Jesus is not the only requirement to enter the kingdom U must keep the commandments too something Christianity teaches against, they say u only need faith, a lie!

    1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.

  • @savebygrace12 Part C

    Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

    Revelation 22:14

    Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

  • @cqgmickey

    You said Christianity was a lie, why do you the Bible then??? To believe in God involves keeping His Word. You are in contradiction with yourself, I wonder if you really know who you are... One one hand you says Christianity is a lie, on the other hand, you use the book of "the so called lie's religion"... What do you really want, or are you in youtube just for controversies? Do they pay you for that, or you have been just "their" cheap remote control?

  • @savebygrace12 Dude, so what Christianity uses the bible, what does that mean, so does catholics and Muslims. See your problem is, you don't know how to separate the religion from the book. They don't go hand and hand. Christianity doesn't teach anything that the book teaches, other than having faith. That's it! What I don't get about u, is that from your channel it would seem u have some sense about these things, yet on here you play the roll. Really? Do u not know this?

  • @savebygrace12 Oh my mistake, just went back on your channel, I didn't see the full page, I guess you must be a christian. I only somehow saw your videos, & not ur full page.. My apologies, I surely thought you knew more truth then u had lead on here. Seriously, u need to research the doctrine of Christianity, remove what u have been taught and look at the bible with an un-bias eye. The two r not synonymous..I follow the bible, without religion, that is the path.

  • Awesome teaching series.....Life changing!!!

  • @TheSuperhound1980 well if so called jesus was talked about before, then that character regardless of name was real and left a big mark a bit too much to have been a fairy tale

  • I'm Pagan, but I'm glad these guys are actually into checking out how Christianity fits into the web of religions that existed prior their own. I don't 100% agree with what they say, but good work all the same.

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  • Hello beautiful Souls! On this magical day I am very proud to announce the launch of THE PAGAN PRAYER PROJECT. This is your chance, no matter who you are, to share your prayers, rites and invocations with other pagans and be published! Please read more and listen to the video...

  • Paganism is not a religion itself, but a sum of ALL the pre-Christian religions you see today. As in Pre-Christian, that includes Islam, Catholic, Muslim, and a few more. Paganism sums up Greek deitys, Roman, Celtic, Egyptian, Hindu, and all those "mytholigical Gods" that were made up 1,000's of years ago. I have to say, those Gods are just as real and alive as "the One True God" is.

    :)

  • @sorcress18 but the pagan gods are demons and are all below satan and satan is below the most high

  • @Phoonguy

    Demons didn't exist until the new religions came. The Bible on referred them as demons and evil because it was a way to send a red flag to people to get them to stop worshiping them and worship God. To tell you the truth, the only real evil deities are C'thulu and Satan; all the others are good (( and for balance, the gods have a bad side to them too, God even does ))

  • @sorcress18 God has righteous anger, mercy and love, i can see by your comment you are a true pagan lol

  • @Phoonguy

    It is not the fact about being a "true Pagan", I am just pointing out the facts that happened without trying to get my religion in the conversation. The belief that paganism is bad is just one religion's word against another. Why should you care? It is up to the individual to decide their religion so I don't get the point of Missionaries. As long as you know you are going to Heaven, let the person next to you fall because it is their life to make better or ruin, not yours.

  • @sorcress18 i think you have missed the point, they do not force to choose heaven, they just pass a message

  • @Phoonguy

    Then why did the church kill off all those who didn't convert?... -sigh-, your arguments are getting boring now and I think we should stop seeing that you will not broaden your mind. You take your path and i'll take mine. -yawn-

  • @sorcress18 Um , Dont mean to be technical here , but "Satan" would be to a pagan the 5 elements of nature,

    which under Christian doctrine are forbidden to be worshiped as Christ is higher to a Christian then Satan who is the god of the world or elements. earth water wind fire spirit. worship of the universe is forbidden in Christian doctrine.

    He wasn't called Satan to the pagans, only the nature god of which there were many lol.

  • @SmilyFaceEquilibrium

    Actually, you should know that Satan has many names for which He goes by; one of the other common names was Lucifer. The first convicted witches were worshipers of the Goddess Diana who was the mother of Lucifer. Pan, who is also known as the Horned God has stag antlers on his head, but to make Him seem more terrifying, they used Lucifer to name him and gave him scary bull horns instead. If Pagans saw that the Devil was linked to Diana, they would convert.

  • @sorcress18 As I stated , >.> "Satan" (Latin phrase meaning liar) was to pagans ( greeks romans natives mayans inca ) and all over the world. the nature god, hes the five elements. Earth water wind fire spirit. Christianity

    condems worship of nature, So even sun worshipers fall under the category of satanists. lmao

    Thats why the bible says satan is the god of the world. Christian idea of god is that hes higher then this physical nature universe, Satan is evil to christians,

  • @sorcress18 Lucifer is the morning star /evening star (Venus) in rome he was the Sun.

    one of the cities was named Lucia. which is the female version of Lucifer

  • @sorcress18 One of the reasons christians see the nature god ( satan) as evil I think is because ,

    Nature is loving but also can be deceptive because it destroys also. natural disasters and such.

    and christians dont see a loving god causing these disasters. hence it must be the work of an evil one

  • @sorcress18 In Egypt the word for light. is Lux so thats why they had the city of Luxor.

    another city of light was On. Lucifer also is Latin for Light.

  • @sorcress18 watch?v=0oNseOoWkx4

  • too bad you people these people speak to themselves

  • Mr 81..., you should learn history

  • Christians need to get over the fact that there are people who don't believe in their god. You want to teach Christians about Paganism? How about having a Pagan come on and discuss his or her belief?

  • "If you are practicing out of ignorance" Well that's an interesting claim considering, Jesus wasn't born on Dec. 25th- it was clearly lambing season which doesn't happen in December but spring. There was no census for which Mary and Joseph had to return to Bethlehem to, therefore Jesus wasn't born there. We know this because the Romans never conducted a census for there territories. The whole story is false. And to pass it off as historical fact is lying to people and ignorant.

  • I happen to be wiccan and I don't feel that we are hidden If we did hide in the past it is because people and Ignorance,

  • 3:46.......Christmas=the wiccan Yule festival. In many places,when Christian missionaries came, they adapted christianity to some of the local existing beliefs. same for Easter=wiccan Ostara :)

  • 0;50.......neo-paganism is far from "hidden"! look at the Wiccans! the philosophy is there for all to study. Blessed Be! )O(

  • Pagan; latin word meaning Country dweller Many in the Antebellum ( two more latin words )

    South were pagan, thus adept at riding , shooting and hunting.

    For people to are such sticklers for what the bible says you should know your Latin and Greek.

  • How about Heathen?

  • @Reneefah7 an unconverted individual of a people that do not acknowledge the god of the Bible; a person who is neither a Jew, Christian, nor Muslim; pagan.

  • Pagan means false worship

  • Where did you find this information?

    As for mine, look up the word on line, many sources confirm it's history.

  • @81blackboy No it doesn't Pagan is like an adjective used to describe a religion that predates the Christians, Jews and Muslims.

  • if you're looking for ethics in the christian bible, you're looking in the wrong place. don't just read the pretty verses, read them all.

  • How many times is he going to say "edify" "edification" "edifying"?

  • the winter solstice is not the most holy day for the pagans

  • this is a very truthful video...the truth hurts

  • I'm sick of people whom talk of "Paganism" as if it was one religion. Roman and Greek Polytheists were different from Germanic Polytheists. Celtic Polytheists were different from Semetic Polytheists. Slavic Polytheists were different from Norse Polytheists. And Egyptian Polytheists were different from Mayan, Aztec, and Inca religions. Monotheists and others should try to learn about each other so they could better distinguish between them. Lumping them together is just plain lazy and dishonest.

  • @Vexille1983 Look at the bible and see how many names their ' monotheist ' god has!!!!

    If the Jews, Christians and Muslims really do have only one god, this god has multiple personality disorder LOL!

  • @YankeeTom63 love and justice is multipersona disorder ? lol, think about that properly, the innocent should inherit his kingdom and the evil should be punished its that simple

  • Thats some funny ignorant shit!!

  • I am a pagan who believes in nature and respects nature and everything on the planet, I dont worship the sun, the moon or any of the others but science says life would not exist without the sun and complex life would not exist without the moon so hey, these are really more god like than any of your jesus, allah, or the rest, celebrate the changing of the seasons cause these are why we are here

  • have you ever seen zeitgeist they dug deep into religion and came to the conclusion that Christianity and Judaism is sun worship. They just disguised it instead of the sun its jesus and they also figured out why christmas is on december its not cuz of the saviour being born or anything its cuz the sun moves down all of the solstice and on dec 25 it moves one degree up and thats what christmas is about no jesus just the sun

  • I know christianity stole the pagan festivals to make it easier to convert them to christianity, the egg at easter, reberth by pagan, reberth of christ for christianity, xmas dec 22nd suns at its lowest point after that day the days get longer, so christianity stole it as christs birthday, earlier man relied on the seasons so christanity hijacked them

  • right all religion really is when its boiled down is paganism

  • yes I would say so but some would not agree in serious measures if you know what I mean, good luck

  • @stevevox1 well pagans stole october and used it for halloween, so its only fair lol

  • @Phoonguy pagans did not steal October, Halloween was always theirs, it was used to remember the dead.

  • @22akinf no it was when jesus was born and pagans stole it to respect demons lol

  • @Phoonguy I'll assume that's sarcasm lol. No body is that dumb.

  • @22akinf i'll assume you are a evil pagan lol no body is that wicked lol

  • @Phoonguy . Nope my bad, apparently some people are.

  • Again, these guys want to get "the truth" out there. They're saying there's an urgency to do so. We Pagans feel no urgency to convince any other of our belief system. The second I hear something like "urgency to get the truth out there", I know it's the Christians trying to push their doctrine down our throats again. No thanks.

  • church was doing it for 2 millenia, what do you expect?

  • @MRMETHOS1 its more like trying to get u saved before you die, that really the christian duty, to try and get many souls saved, pardon them, they are just following Gods orders,

  • @MRMETHOS1 word!

    

  • 1. paganism isn't a religion, it's an umbrella term for religions that are non-Abrahamic, or pre-Christian.

    2. yes Christian festivals derive from pre-Christian religions.

    3. does it really matter if you celebrate the winter solstice or not? why would your god take offence at celebrating the seasons?

    4. thank you for recognising Yule, it deserves some attentions because so many people don't realise why they are putting up the christmas tree.

  • Very well put!

  • bigfredNC, you dont need to apologise to anyone for your knowlege. Just listening to you apologise feels wrong. If people feel angry hearing this amazing information, ignore them because there not worth your time!

  • I like how he says "We're not saying that you'll be thrown into the lake of fire if you're practicing these event in ignorance." I was Christian before I found Paganism, & it was then that I realized I was practicing Christianity in ignorance... Every Christian holiday I was partaking in had nothing to do with Jesus at all. At the time, that was a shoker to me.. I once was blind, but now I see..Not making light of the situation, but that's the truth.

    Blessed Be

  • I would be interested in finding out if any pagan traditions are real carry-overs of pagan traditions from Roman times (families who practiced in secret for a long time or whatever)

  • And by the way we are not hidden we are Pagan power and proud!

  • A big high-five to that!

  • Thanks!

  • High-five!! :D

  • Well I am taking offence b/c ur religion came from ours!! That could be why its not in ur scripture!

  • On a side note - there is no being 'right' when it comes to beliefs. Their is no higher path or one truth, only what works for each individual.

    I hope this helps to enlighten you a little.

    Bright Blessings

  • This is one of the two equinox's of the year (when the hours of light and dark in a day are in perfect balance). After 21st December the hours of daylight increase until the 2nd equinox on the 21st June (the Summer Solstice). So on Yule ancient Pagans (and todays Pagans) celebrate the return of the Sun, ergo the birth of the Sun Gods.

  • I think you guys have your wires crossed a little ....

    Pagans don't celebrate Xmas - 25th December, we celebrate Yule or the Winter Solstice on 21st December......

  • heres the next level of knowledge for you, the whites and chinese who "paganism" has always belonged to are.....not even "human" as we think of it but a reptillian species and an amphibious species respectively. you will concieve this information eventually, but....love you brothers.....see you soon!

  • Funny. I'm Pagan, and we are not hidden at all. There are national and international charities, temples, places/houses of worship, chaplins serving in the Army and in the correctional system, etc. The fear and misunderstanding some (not all) Christians feel for those of us who hold faith the indigenous religions of our ancestors is truly sad. This is especially so when you consider that Paganism abhors the concept of prosthelization. Be blessed.

  • This is an awesome video! As fellow Christian's we have been doing our own research and you guys are spot on! It's amazing how many paganistic "traditions" have found there way into modern Western societies and into homes of unsuspecting and perhaps ingnorant Christians. As parents we feel so blessed the Lord has revealed this to us so we can protect our children from participating in these "rituals" and bring more of a focus on our Lord & Saviour Jesus Christ.

  • I Think the christian god is loki, the evil trickster.

    an immense amount of similarities

  • there's one way to find out. wait till ragnarok and see if loki looks like Jesus.

  • I am so very happy to see you here! I will be sharing this site with others on YT.

    PEACE!!!!!!!

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