Sounds like they were pretty reasonable a lot of places will immediately notify law enforcement if you carry a weapon in the door in violation of their policy. they still allowed a test fitting of the holster and sounds like they really didn't make much fuss of it at all. no they didn't violate their policy and hand your weapon to you so you could carry it around in the store.. but at least you didn't have to check it out from the sheriffs office two weeks later after getting hassled for hours
Ya walk around to get a reaction and ya get one. It's not even safe theses days for strange people to walk around a sporting goods store with a pistol and families shopping.
Ya know, I honestly believe Cabela's would've let you leave with your gun if you initially conceal carried. I'm all for exercising 2nd and 4th amendment rights, but when you push the envelope outside of what Cabela's policy states, you're beggin' for situations like this.
take down the music. I can't here what anyone is saying. And the red font is the wrong color try black. Not trying to bust your chops, just giving you idea to better you videos.
It is very poor form to draw your firearm from a holster in public unless you need it for self defense or are asked to do so by an LEO. Whether you carry concealed or open drawing the weapon is considered "displaying" and you could be arrested. When I take a handgun to the local gun shop they ask that it be in a case. Long arms can be carried with the action open. If I go to a new place and I am unsure, I ask at the counter first.
im sure the holster could have been tested with a firearm that carried instead of taking his out i would not unholster a charged firearm in a public place without a good reason (self defence or ordered by law ) but i guess you had to be there
I was just at the Cabella's in Glendale, AZ a couple of days ago and their policy was to only check firearms that you intend on removing from the holster. I carried my 9mm with no issues, so maybe their policy has changed?
This is funny to me since the sale firearms its like having double standards. I went to Scheels looking for a holster and the sales person as if I had the gun on me. I said, yes I carry concealed. Best way to find one that fits is to see if it does. We believe in the second amendment. So does Bass Pro and Sportmans Warehouse. A business can make the rules that is true and I can chose to shop there or not...
@Figgleswortification@funkyzero 56 retards managed to like your comment without reading the description. "I have had issues with the door greeters not being instructed that OC was both legal and allowed in the store..store STORE STORE STORE. Cabelas WELCOMES OPEN CARRY. On another note this video still sucks and so does that Cabelas staff.
@Figgleswortification@funkyzero 56 retards managed to like your comment without reading the description. "I have had issues with the door greeters not being instructed that OC was both legal and allowed in the store..store STORE STORE STORE. Cabelas WELCOMES OPEN CARRY. On another note this video still sucks and so does that Cabelas staff.
@TIMEx69x what looking for a holster numbnuts id like to see u buy a 200 dollar holster without making sure it will work hhaha and people like you give americas bad names go to china you and what ur mom get fucked for bags of rice
ha i went into l and a fire arms in tennessee with my loaded walther ppq and had not one prob. the clerk had asked my opinion on if i thought my walther was better then a glock 19. i responded hell yes with a smile and thats all that was said
Rules prohibiting OC must be posted in most states (I don't know about MO). IMHO don't shop there if you don't agree. I took my gun into Sportsman's Warehouse in NM, to buy a holster. Of course you want to make sure it fits. I go to customer service, I sign in and they tag my weapon. I then proceed to try about a 6 holsters before I find the one I want. Gun was never holstered unless I was testing one. I even set in on the counter when I checked out. No big deal. No escort required.
Did they didn't take away or inquire about a backup. You'll be alright. I'll unstrap to satisfy the store owners. I'll give you a funny story about a feed problem. Conical bullets do not feed well in 1911's. I was telling him about the smithwork and the problem "Can I load and show you how the bullet cant changes?" His face got white. "Tell the other 5 employees what I'm doing" Looked like the dude was about to puke. Don't poke a private place.
I work the firearms counter at my local Cabelas and we have no problems with open carriers so long as it stays in the holster. If you want to try holsters, that's completely fine, but we have to safety check it at the front of the store. Under no circumstances do we ourselves safety check guns or take them out of holsters. We escort the customer to the front, get it safety checked, logged in, and then we look at holsters. When they want to leave, we walk them out. Improper protocol here.
They certainly can ask you to leave since it is private property, they are sacrificing mine and all my friends business by doing so, but they are free to.
Locally we have a Gander Mountain that has a sign that basically says all guns must be in cases unless you are legally permitted to carry them otherwise. In other words, we are a sporting goods store that deals in guns and realize that MANY of our patrons will be armed and we are ok with that.
"No one wants to see someone they don't know and therefore don't trust walking around with a freaking gun." This is NOT a Constitutionally guaranteed right. Open carrying the firearm is. End of censoring story!
While it's completely silly for Cabela's to do that, it's not illegal. I chuckled. If I were employee #3 i'd just hand it to you. Pointless company policy.
I've had very few times anyone bothers me open carrying in Colorado (I do stay out of and don't do business in Denver though because they do harrass you). Any firearms type business that is going to hassle you for carrying seeks to send you to their competition.
Side note, a local police officer, when some jackoffs made issue at a gas station on my carrying openly, stated "Its a constitutional right," and went back to pumping his gas. There are some good cops around.
I don't see the issue with carrying the gun into the store if you have a permit. You can buy a gun in cabellas, right? You can buy ammo in cabellas right? Do they escort every gun purchaser to the door carrying their newly purchased gun and hand it to them at the door like some kind of criminal ? WTF I'd never go there again. Assholes
Taking a firearm into a shop, such as a gun shop, or a Cabela's to get a proper holster should have been done in a carrying case, unloaded, with a lock on it, not a holster. Be respectful to other people. No one wants to see someone they don't know and therefore don't trust walking around with a freaking gun. Also the store employee is a dumbass. Never put your prints on someone elses gun, unless you trust them explicitly.
I own many guns. Handguns and longarms. I have a ccw. But I'm tired of the "Don't Tread On Me" puffed up chest attitude that some gun owners can act like. Stop being militant about it. No need to go out of your way to politically challenge everybody.
@emmaandsophie1 I so agree with you. This ridiculous confrontational attitude with no concern for your impact on others gives a gun owners a bad name.
@emmaandsophie1 If you dont reenforce the fact that its LEGAL to carry openly in your state, and ACTUALLY CARRY you will lose the right.. the purpose is to make carrieing a firearm openly something expected. And Im sorry, A store is a public place, you make it public when you open your doors to the public. therefore, inside, outside, on top or below that store, your 2nd amendment rights are retained. Its the same reason a cop can give you a ticket for blowing a stop sign in a mall parking lot..
"Its the same reason a cop can give you a ticket for blowing a stop sign in a mall parking lot."
They can't give you a ticket in a private parking lot, such as at a mall or a supermarket. They can at the public library or the post office, which are not privately owned.
@ridgerunnersurvival nope, stores are still private property with respect to the second amendment. I've been to that very cabela's store near stl, and there are large signs instructing people carrying firearms to unload them and check them in the minute they enter the premises.
I agree, private property trumps this guy going into the store with his weapon. If he has a ccw I'd carry it that way and just ask the counter guy to check the fit with one of there guns. At my Gun shop I've gone in to buy a holster, but I was concealed and they didn't have my model. The guy asked if I had with me and I said yes. removed it from concealed, removed mag and round. He had no problem with it. And I bought the holster. good day for both of us.
Absolutely NO ONE WHO IS NOT A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER HAS A RIGHT TO DETAIN OR TAKE YOUR WEAPON UNLESS TAKEN IN THE ACT OF A CRIME IN WHICH CASE YOU WOULD BE UNDER CITIZENS ARREST OR FATALY WOUNDED .
I too wanted a new holster for my pistol and went to Bass Pro to get one, but unlike you, I just asked them to use one of their guns to check the fit. These stores have a lot of guns and I am sure they have the same one as you.
Not to many places that sell guns, like having people with loaded or unloaded weapons walking around. (An unloaded weapon in a holster looks loaded to most people)
I also am sure you expected something to happen, that is why your camera was on?
i was an employee of sportsmens wairhouse and its the same policy. after i left i would shop there, one time i did the same i checked it in at the front (got a sticker) then shopped for holster. i found one, walked up to the gun counter and was checking to see if it would fit (wamo) a salesmen asked me is that gun unloaded. i just looked at him and rolled my eyes. so eny more i just go CCW
Open carrying a gun makes you a target if a situation ever happens and you need to defend yourself. If a criminal comes in a store to rob it and sees you with a gun on your side, your the first one getting shot because your a threat that could stop him. If they come and take look around and see you with a gun, they have the element of surprise because they see your gun but you don't see theirs.
I carry concealed all the time in Cabela's. I have even asked if it is allowed and they said as long as I have a CCW permit, but they didn't ask to see the permit. Go figure.
@coldfusionacura that gay its a gun store ,that like pet-co saying only vet can brag in their pets is not for safety. cos if some one like you kill people all thy have to do is take some ammo out of a ammo value pack. of shot gun shells.thy are never back in glass ,ask to see a shotgun ,are take some hunting tips out of the box ,put them on a arrow and stab some one
Cabela's Sandy, Utah. They have a place inside the store past the front doors where you are asked to check your weapon in. You may retrieve it on the way out. What's wrong with that? I think they're being quite nice about it.
My suggestion? Bring your hand gun (unloaded) into the store in a simple paper bag or a vanilla carry case. Then, discreetly pull the gun out to try it in the various holsters that you're interested in to make sure that it fits. Then, pick the holster/s that you want and put the gun back into your paper bag or carrying case and pay for your purchase and leave.
That is the policy of a local sportings goods store here. It looks like Cabela's employees and Mgt are CONFUSED in this case.
i worked at a cabelas throughout college. that person at the door who directed you towards the hunting department screwed up. they were supposed to check your gun to see if it was loaded and then escort you to the gun library where it would be kept safe. go grab some holsters walk in the library where an outfitter will help find a holster you prefer. you go finish your shopping, after you check out a outfitter will escort you outside.
this is ridiculous, i live close to billings mt. and there is a cabelas here. i open carry everytime i go in there store and i have never encountered a problem. but in montana unrestricted open carry is right protected by the state constitution.
My only beef is that every time I buy a gun at this location, it takes all day for them to find an employee to walk it out with me. I don't buy guns there anymore unless it's too good of a deal to pass on. Also, the taxes in Hazelwood are higher than here in St. Charles, where there are plenty of fine firearms dealers =)
That is not what was posted on the door of the one in Washington state. It said that all RIFLES must be unloaded and if I wished to do a holster fitment test then I had to go to the entrance and do the unload etc there.
There is another store that is unclear about policy and law also in Washington state.
NO WHERE in the US Constitution does it say that you have a right to "Open Carry" a firearm.Nor does it say that you have a right to take a firearm into someone elses private property without their consent.If you open carry, you are asking for trouble.I'm a strong 2a supporter but that doesn't mean I'm stupid.I believe CWP is the way to go.Nobody has ever called the cops on me.
I'm all about 2A rights. Unfortunately, this is a prime example of what Grandpa told me long ago: "If you go out looking for trouble, you're probably going to find it." He carried a Mauser .25 in his overalls for 63 years without anybody ever knowing it--mainly because he didn't tell them. I got thrown out of a McDonald's once for show and tell. Use your mind.
@a7mmnut1 I agree...little stunts like this are part of the cause for "anti-guns" activists to pursue what they are looking for.You can order just about ANY holster for ANY weapon online and have it shipped directly to your door.That woulda solved ALOT of problems rite off the bat here.Im from a state(NY) where ONLY concealed carry is allowed...Ive never had an issue walking into walmart with my firearm...wanna know why?Because nobody ever even knew it was there,and I dont "Show and Tell"
Cabela's is a private establishment, they can make their own rules. This is *NOT* a rights issue, other than private property rights. In fact, you are basically complaining that you weren't allowed to violate THEIR private property rights.
@usarmycaptainamerica private = they can make whatever policy they choose as long as it doesn't harm anyone, it doesn't matter if it's open to the public, it's owner is private and allowed to make their own choices.
Cabela's welcomes CCW holders because of the back ground checks that have been done, and I'm not saying that cabela's doesn't trust open carry but it does set people uneasy. and yes you have your right to open carry where the laws allow. but if a business doesn't won't you to open carry they should post and/or tell you at the door as you enter. I have only one solution for this is take your business elsewhere---------
Shame you can't hear anything being said because the BLASTED music is so loud. Good to see someone handle this situation like an adult. You and Cabella's handled the manner as it should have been handled.
Thanks sooo much for making this video. I agree with others that you should make one without the music. I love the fact that the Gander Mountain in my town encourages open carry. They even old open carry seminars. To all the haters...FU!!!
I can't see where Cabela's can legally remove a firearm from a person where no open carry laws exist. Maybe if you let them, yes. BUT, I don't see where Cabela's Inc. has the power to override state or federal statuate law of the 2nd Admendment. I would have probably told them that I have a backup pistol and to give mine back IMMEDIATLY or face a lawsuite.
I don't have a problem with a private property owner placing restriction on the use of their property. That is known as property rights. But I would think Cabela's would be prepared for open carry.Perhaps post a no weapons policy outside their store. Or post instructions to report to the customer service counter first.
why didn't you just bring the gun in a case and carry another gun concealed??? Practically ALL holsters will tell you exactly the make & model of the gun it will fit. Unless you had some WWII german relic. IMHO
Im torn between my responses here. The best way to go about this is to bring the gun in the store in a case and then check holster fit(I have the same issues with my Safariland 6280 holsters) BUT on the other hand you can apparently openly carry in your state. I think the best way to reach a happy medium here is to bring it in in a carry case next time. I do support OC and CCW and have 4 permits. No offense,but I think you were pushing the limits of good judgement and I hope you learned.
these guys that work at cabela's are no more sportsman or know anything more about guns then the same people that work at wal mart, i would have walked around the store for a good hour just to prove a point, and i NEVER would have let someone remove my firearm from my person .
It seems like you were purposely looking for a confrontation of some sort or otherwise you would not have filmed the whole encounter. Being a private business Cabela's can restrict how firearms are carried in the store. You can just as easily go to the counter and ask for the holster you want and have the gun in a carrying case until you get to the counter. I am all about asserting rights, but you don't have to go looking for confrontations either.
At Cabelas, you have to check your firearm in at the check in counter at the front door if you want to handle and try out any accessories for your firearm. There they will render your gun safe and an employee will take your gun back to the gun section behind a counter marked "Gun Checkout" and will hand you a ticket with a number on it representing your firearm. You can then go find the accessories you want, bring them back to the counter with your ticket, and try them out on your firearm.
first mistake is you handed YOUR weapon over to someone else. Second, you could just take the holster over to the firearms counter and tell them you want to see that weapon and they will let you test fit it. problem solved.
@TalulahsDaddy It looks like you are a dumbass. 1st, Cabelas isn't a MALL, dude. 2nd, open carrying where it is legal doesn't induce a panic, whatever that is.
@TalulahsDaddy Uh... He has the right to open carry. If other people call the police the police should explain to those people that he is not breaking any law rather then harrass him. Maybe if they did that a little more often we wouldn't have a society that is completely ignorant of their own rights... after all if they knew they have the right to open carry they wouldn't panic when they see some one open carry now would they?
@TalulahsDaddy - You've obviously not been to a Cabelas. They're never mall stores. Cabelas is an outdoor gear store including hunting (i.e. guns), fishing, and general outdoors gear. The video highlights a very curious store policy for a place that sells guns and gun supplies. There's no reason to not give the gun his unloaded gun back.
Why is the guy so nervous its pretty easy take it out of the holster with your finger off the trigger and pull the slide back eject the round lock it open and make sure its empty. Then try it in different holsters.
They have no right to take your gun, Where I live Gander Mt. will take your long gun but not your pistol, however you cant walk into the rest of the mall with it.
I'll teach all you yunguns how to properly fit your weapon to it's holster for your unique design and usage of the holster. I agree with both saminwa and ju. So all you unloaded and crybabies pay attention. Buy every holster that you might want, on the creditcard (return terms are not final) use each for a week solid, and start taking back the ones you don't like. Or do it one at a time. No sense in making a show for no reason but to satisfy yourself. Did management have any headsup?
@saminwa What states allow open carry but it must be unloaded. I was very surprised to hear about this. I've been open carrying for over 10 years in Louisiana and someone asked if I carry it loaded. I replied, "who would carry a unloaded gun." I guess I've been proven wrong. Sorry but this is nothing more than a show if you open carry an unloaded weapon. Get a ccw.
@sohighlyunlikely open carry is only allowed on state property or your own. If a business does not wish you to open carry in their store than you must obey if you want to continue shopping. You should have checked the gun at the front desk explaining what you were bringing it in for. Then I think everything would have been completely normal. I wouldnt allow you to carry in my house just the same. I would want to be the one with the power to put you down and so do they.
@saminwa why dangerous to open carry an unloaded gun. if it's legal it's fine. that kind of logic is like saying "if a girl walks around topless she's going to get raped".
@Diipnmyliip Well, actually normally I would agree with you, but the main thing is the practicality of the whole situation. True, it is his right to open carry, but its unwise when it can alarm liberals you pass by further incorrectly defining their position on the far left of firearm restriction, as well as the fact that a basic case to carry the gun prevents someone from stealing it off you. Also, by personal experience, i find those who conceal carry are much more mature as far as minset
@Diipnmyliip Somebody's been watching too many movies. Any idea how many "self-defense" firearms actually ever get fired in anger? Hmmm. And how many of those same "self-defense" guns get illegally sold at gun shows and end up being used in crimes?
You people are literally allergic to coherent thinking. *shakes head*
As I live in Springfield, MO I am proud to say that Bass Po Shops allows holstered Open Carry in their stores all the time! When Cabela's doesn't stand for your values, shop at businesses that DO! Thank you Bass Pro Shops!!!
Cabela's is a private business. If they want to make a rule saying no firearms they can do so. If they want to make a rule saying no customers allowed who aren't wearing orange shirts they can do so.
@thegizmoguy1 true but doesn't it seem paradoxical that a place which sells firearms ammunition and innumerable accessories for said firearms would have such a policy?
@thegizmoguy1 true but doesn't it seem paradoxical that a place which sells firearms ammunition and innumerable accessories for said firearms would have such a policy?
@thegizmoguy1 true but doesn't it seem paradoxical that a place which sells firearms ammunition and innumerable accessories for said firearms would have such a policy?
@thegizmoguy1 Cabela's is not a "private business". If you go into Cabela's are you "out in public on private property" or "out among the populace while on private property"? NO you are not any of those..Everyone can go into Cabela's..So you are just "out in public". They (Cabela's) can NOT enforce tresspass laws, ONLY loitering laws. If you purchase even a $0.25 pack of gum you are no longer loitering (keep the receipt on you).
@thegizmoguy1 Damn right... had a guy think he could walk into my home one time carrying, I said ahhh no... I make the rules here take it off or get out.
@thegizmoguy1 Damn right... had a guy think he could walk into my home one time carrying, I said ahh no... I make the rules here take it off or get out.
@thegizmoguy1 It's pretty hilarious that you're saying it's perfectly fine for a business to make gun control but not the state. That's a huge contradiction. So you're saying that the Constitution do not apply to Cabela's? I see no difference in the state or Cabela's making gun control. You treat a business as if they're lords of the universe which they're not. According to you it would be fine for the state to make any rule saying that despite the Constitution people can't carry guns openly!
@SquirrelFromGradLife youre a dumbass. States (or any government for that matter) have the authority to take away the "freedoms" of its citizens. Cabela's does not. They are a privately run business and have the ability to service those who they see fit under the guidelines they so choose. They do not accept tax dollars, they do not have the power to incarcerate you. If you dont like their policies DONT SHOP THERE! Go some where else you rich motherfucker!!
@SquirrelFromGradLife "It's pretty hilarious that you're saying it's perfectly fine for a business to make gun control but not the state. That's a huge contradiction. "
No, it's not. You're ignorant of private property laws.
@SquirrelFromGradLife It doesn't apply to Cabela's private property. Constitutional law is based on right of property, and if you're on their PRIVATE property they have the full right to ask you to leave, or trespass you if you're refusing to leave for whatever reason. Trust me when I say you don't want to have armed trespassing laws filed against you. This is why we have concealed carry laws.
@SquirrelFromGradLife The Constitution was not written, nor applies, to private citizens or businesses, it applies to federal, state, and local governments.
There is no contradiction. Cabelas store is private property.Your 2nd amendment rights do NOT trump Cabelas private property rights.Would you want government forcing YOU to allow activities on your property that you didn't want?Business owners ARE lords of the universe on their own private property.
I'll stand right beside anyone and argue in favor of the 2nd amendment,there is no bigger supporter than I,but my rights can never supersede someone elses
@funkyzero I agree with you in general, but you are wrong about "owners ARE lords of the universe on their own private property." You forget about the Pruneyard case? Study you Constitutional Law a bit more, old boy.
You are 100% correct. What pisses me off more is that this guy went in to a pro firearm retailer looking for trouble. I do not know a single firearms store that is ok with you removing a weapon from its holster while in the show room to try a different holster out. Everytime Ive been asked to leave the store, unload it, and then bring it back in. Liability is high enough for those guys, give em a brake
@funkyzero actually, store owners do not have infinite control, there are many rights patrons have and obligations the store has, just look at the handicap requirements as one example. Carrying a firearm is just another one of those things society has to agree on and those agreements are subject to change.
Not that I agree with holstering an unloaded weapon unless required by law, like in CA.
I also do not agree with him making his intentions ambiguous or being disrespectful.
@funkyzero You say you right can not supersede others but that allows yours to be superceded. That is what the problem is. Who's right is more important? I say mine,you say yours.
@funkyzero I agree, but I would check Missouri law. Most open carry and concealed carry states have written legislation that requires private businesses to put up official signs prohibiting it. In Texas, private businesses must have an OFFICIAL sign. It can't just read "No Firearms." A sign like this does not apply to a concealed carrier. There are specific requirements to the official sign, even down to the size of the letters. Plus, the carrying laws in Missouri are sporatic...
@funkyzero Agreed. They have the right to forbid any type of carry in their store, just as you have the right to shop elsewhere in protest to it. You make the rules on your property, they make the rules on theirs.
@funkyzero I agree, and this behavior is something a teenager would do. Why do you feel the need to walk in a store where there is ammo accessible on the shelves. people like that are asking for trouble and do not understand the Constitution and there State Laws. People like that ruin shit for the people that carry responsibly.
@SquirrelFromGradLife By making them allow open carry you are allowing the government to interfere with a private business and their rights. The answer is don't shop there. Though I must say that if I worked at a gun shop or sporting goods store I would be pretty nervous with people pulling their weapons. You and I might be responsible but we both know there are a lot of idiots out there.
@SquirrelFromGradLife we are talking about the rights of private property owners idiot, and yes it should be the their right to make their own policies because it's their business that's directly affected. how would you like it if you owned a business and couldn't create your own policy for something that hurt your business? noone is arguing the second amendment, this is not a second amendment issue!!!
@SquirrelFromGradLife Ever seen a sign that says "No shirt, no shoes, no service." ? In this case it was "No OC." Private property is PRIVATE. That means the owner makes the rules.
@thegizmoguy1 NO SHIT SHERLOCK, BUT THEY CANT HOLD HIS GUN LIKE THAT NOT TO MENTION THEY DIDNT EVEN ASK HIM TO LEAVE, THE TOOK HIS WEAPON AND TOLD HIM HE WOULD GET IT BACK OUTSIDE THE STORE!!!! WOW HOW FUCKIN PEOPLE CANT UNDERSTAND THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE!!! =)
Sounds like they were pretty reasonable a lot of places will immediately notify law enforcement if you carry a weapon in the door in violation of their policy. they still allowed a test fitting of the holster and sounds like they really didn't make much fuss of it at all. no they didn't violate their policy and hand your weapon to you so you could carry it around in the store.. but at least you didn't have to check it out from the sheriffs office two weeks later after getting hassled for hours
littleshortguy291 2 days ago
Ya walk around to get a reaction and ya get one. It's not even safe theses days for strange people to walk around a sporting goods store with a pistol and families shopping.
mitch5155 2 days ago
Ya know, I honestly believe Cabela's would've let you leave with your gun if you initially conceal carried. I'm all for exercising 2nd and 4th amendment rights, but when you push the envelope outside of what Cabela's policy states, you're beggin' for situations like this.
lmind2 5 days ago
take down the music. I can't here what anyone is saying. And the red font is the wrong color try black. Not trying to bust your chops, just giving you idea to better you videos.
Crombie531 1 week ago
It is very poor form to draw your firearm from a holster in public unless you need it for self defense or are asked to do so by an LEO. Whether you carry concealed or open drawing the weapon is considered "displaying" and you could be arrested. When I take a handgun to the local gun shop they ask that it be in a case. Long arms can be carried with the action open. If I go to a new place and I am unsure, I ask at the counter first.
warren888888 1 week ago
im sure the holster could have been tested with a firearm that carried instead of taking his out i would not unholster a charged firearm in a public place without a good reason (self defence or ordered by law ) but i guess you had to be there
bgpull 1 week ago
i understand that cabelas has the right to stop the public from open cary, i just hope gun people choose to not shop there
1973timc 2 weeks ago
I was just at the Cabella's in Glendale, AZ a couple of days ago and their policy was to only check firearms that you intend on removing from the holster. I carried my 9mm with no issues, so maybe their policy has changed?
Thor42013 2 weeks ago in playlist hh
Lose the music, and the red font against the background is making my eyes bleed.
flightoftheunknown 2 weeks ago 2
well cabelas just lost a coustmer for life
chrissteezybezzy 2 weeks ago
This is funny to me since the sale firearms its like having double standards. I went to Scheels looking for a holster and the sales person as if I had the gun on me. I said, yes I carry concealed. Best way to find one that fits is to see if it does. We believe in the second amendment. So does Bass Pro and Sportmans Warehouse. A business can make the rules that is true and I can chose to shop there or not...
DennyRec 2 weeks ago
@Figgleswortification @funkyzero 56 retards managed to like your comment without reading the description. "I have had issues with the door greeters not being instructed that OC was both legal and allowed in the store..store STORE STORE STORE. Cabelas WELCOMES OPEN CARRY. On another note this video still sucks and so does that Cabelas staff.
949Agent 2 weeks ago
@Figgleswortification @funkyzero 56 retards managed to like your comment without reading the description. "I have had issues with the door greeters not being instructed that OC was both legal and allowed in the store..store STORE STORE STORE. Cabelas WELCOMES OPEN CARRY. On another note this video still sucks and so does that Cabelas staff.
949Agent 2 weeks ago
This is the kind of behavior that gives cc l owners s bad name.
TIMEx69x 3 weeks ago
@TIMEx69x what looking for a holster numbnuts id like to see u buy a 200 dollar holster without making sure it will work hhaha and people like you give americas bad names go to china you and what ur mom get fucked for bags of rice
chrissteezybezzy 2 weeks ago
ha i went into l and a fire arms in tennessee with my loaded walther ppq and had not one prob. the clerk had asked my opinion on if i thought my walther was better then a glock 19. i responded hell yes with a smile and thats all that was said
95fordtbirdlx 3 weeks ago
I would have walked that guy all over that store for a good while.
codyology 3 weeks ago
Rules prohibiting OC must be posted in most states (I don't know about MO). IMHO don't shop there if you don't agree. I took my gun into Sportsman's Warehouse in NM, to buy a holster. Of course you want to make sure it fits. I go to customer service, I sign in and they tag my weapon. I then proceed to try about a 6 holsters before I find the one I want. Gun was never holstered unless I was testing one. I even set in on the counter when I checked out. No big deal. No escort required.
bjpokerace 4 weeks ago
Did they didn't take away or inquire about a backup. You'll be alright. I'll unstrap to satisfy the store owners. I'll give you a funny story about a feed problem. Conical bullets do not feed well in 1911's. I was telling him about the smithwork and the problem "Can I load and show you how the bullet cant changes?" His face got white. "Tell the other 5 employees what I'm doing" Looked like the dude was about to puke. Don't poke a private place.
XGCScrappy 4 weeks ago
i dont understand why a store like cabelas would make such a fuss about it there suppose to gun ppl and supporters just seems odd to me.
XxJDG33xX 4 weeks ago
Why can't you observe pirvate property rules.
ecarvey1 1 month ago
I work the firearms counter at my local Cabelas and we have no problems with open carriers so long as it stays in the holster. If you want to try holsters, that's completely fine, but we have to safety check it at the front of the store. Under no circumstances do we ourselves safety check guns or take them out of holsters. We escort the customer to the front, get it safety checked, logged in, and then we look at holsters. When they want to leave, we walk them out. Improper protocol here.
Mr2ndAmendment 1 month ago
@Mr2ndAmendment That's about stupid.
XGCScrappy 4 weeks ago
Come to the North Idaho Cabelas, they would never try that... The cabelas here has the same sign ewhitlow
556diplomacy 1 month ago
Guess I won't be buying anything from cabella's again.
boonedawg68 1 month ago
Those frackers are over priced anyways! lol
ChromeDove 1 month ago
walking into the store with a gun and beaming smiles is not a good way to start
whowouldhavedoneit 1 month ago
Weird, I understand it is their right but they are probably one of the more pro-gun superstores...
billymayer1000 1 month ago
It is kind of sad how many people don't understand what happened or why.
l337pwnage 1 month ago
They certainly can ask you to leave since it is private property, they are sacrificing mine and all my friends business by doing so, but they are free to.
Locally we have a Gander Mountain that has a sign that basically says all guns must be in cases unless you are legally permitted to carry them otherwise. In other words, we are a sporting goods store that deals in guns and realize that MANY of our patrons will be armed and we are ok with that.
ewhitlow 1 month ago 2
"No one wants to see someone they don't know and therefore don't trust walking around with a freaking gun." This is NOT a Constitutionally guaranteed right. Open carrying the firearm is. End of censoring story!
TheScaryClownSays 1 month ago
Next time you make a video, keep it simple please... No music, easy to read text with no transitions...
ColterWillhoite 1 month ago
Gee, it would be nice if we could actually hear the video over the shitty music.
Supermassively 1 month ago 35
While it's completely silly for Cabela's to do that, it's not illegal. I chuckled. If I were employee #3 i'd just hand it to you. Pointless company policy.
TehBrizon 1 month ago
There is a sign on the door of the Cabela's here in Reno that says "all firearms must be checked in at the front desk".
xDEMONIZEDx 1 month ago
I've had very few times anyone bothers me open carrying in Colorado (I do stay out of and don't do business in Denver though because they do harrass you). Any firearms type business that is going to hassle you for carrying seeks to send you to their competition.
Side note, a local police officer, when some jackoffs made issue at a gas station on my carrying openly, stated "Its a constitutional right," and went back to pumping his gas. There are some good cops around.
Saxxonknight 1 month ago
I don't see the issue with carrying the gun into the store if you have a permit. You can buy a gun in cabellas, right? You can buy ammo in cabellas right? Do they escort every gun purchaser to the door carrying their newly purchased gun and hand it to them at the door like some kind of criminal ? WTF I'd never go there again. Assholes
farmall1938 1 month ago
Taking a firearm into a shop, such as a gun shop, or a Cabela's to get a proper holster should have been done in a carrying case, unloaded, with a lock on it, not a holster. Be respectful to other people. No one wants to see someone they don't know and therefore don't trust walking around with a freaking gun. Also the store employee is a dumbass. Never put your prints on someone elses gun, unless you trust them explicitly.
Electrichead64 1 month ago
I own many guns. Handguns and longarms. I have a ccw. But I'm tired of the "Don't Tread On Me" puffed up chest attitude that some gun owners can act like. Stop being militant about it. No need to go out of your way to politically challenge everybody.
emmaandsophie1 1 month ago
@emmaandsophie1 I so agree with you. This ridiculous confrontational attitude with no concern for your impact on others gives a gun owners a bad name.
Lehmann108 1 month ago
@emmaandsophie1 If you dont reenforce the fact that its LEGAL to carry openly in your state, and ACTUALLY CARRY you will lose the right.. the purpose is to make carrieing a firearm openly something expected. And Im sorry, A store is a public place, you make it public when you open your doors to the public. therefore, inside, outside, on top or below that store, your 2nd amendment rights are retained. Its the same reason a cop can give you a ticket for blowing a stop sign in a mall parking lot..
ridgerunnersurvival 1 month ago
@ridgerunnersurvival
"A store is a public place,"
Really? A store is a privately owned business.
"Its the same reason a cop can give you a ticket for blowing a stop sign in a mall parking lot."
They can't give you a ticket in a private parking lot, such as at a mall or a supermarket. They can at the public library or the post office, which are not privately owned.
ChrisCA509 1 month ago
@ridgerunnersurvival nope, stores are still private property with respect to the second amendment. I've been to that very cabela's store near stl, and there are large signs instructing people carrying firearms to unload them and check them in the minute they enter the premises.
spampy106 1 month ago
you do no that the holsters have lables on them saying wich pistles will fit in them right?
eaglesclaws8 1 month ago
I agree, private property trumps this guy going into the store with his weapon. If he has a ccw I'd carry it that way and just ask the counter guy to check the fit with one of there guns. At my Gun shop I've gone in to buy a holster, but I was concealed and they didn't have my model. The guy asked if I had with me and I said yes. removed it from concealed, removed mag and round. He had no problem with it. And I bought the holster. good day for both of us.
jimorocks 1 month ago
Maybe turn the music off?
MCAMETAL 1 month ago
2:19 Bahahahaha!! "What do You think of these boots on Me?"
MrOhjames 1 month ago
Absolutely NO ONE WHO IS NOT A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER HAS A RIGHT TO DETAIN OR TAKE YOUR WEAPON UNLESS TAKEN IN THE ACT OF A CRIME IN WHICH CASE YOU WOULD BE UNDER CITIZENS ARREST OR FATALY WOUNDED .
jingliksao 1 month ago
I too wanted a new holster for my pistol and went to Bass Pro to get one, but unlike you, I just asked them to use one of their guns to check the fit. These stores have a lot of guns and I am sure they have the same one as you.
Not to many places that sell guns, like having people with loaded or unloaded weapons walking around. (An unloaded weapon in a holster looks loaded to most people)
I also am sure you expected something to happen, that is why your camera was on?
IronJoeLVMC 2 months ago
when I shopped for holsters I just looked for one that stated on the case that it fit my make/model of weapon
Candyman757 2 months ago
i was an employee of sportsmens wairhouse and its the same policy. after i left i would shop there, one time i did the same i checked it in at the front (got a sticker) then shopped for holster. i found one, walked up to the gun counter and was checking to see if it would fit (wamo) a salesmen asked me is that gun unloaded. i just looked at him and rolled my eyes. so eny more i just go CCW
gpuckit 2 months ago
Open carrying a gun makes you a target if a situation ever happens and you need to defend yourself. If a criminal comes in a store to rob it and sees you with a gun on your side, your the first one getting shot because your a threat that could stop him. If they come and take look around and see you with a gun, they have the element of surprise because they see your gun but you don't see theirs.
leftlane86gt 2 months ago
good story reporting
nottinmatterz2day 2 months ago
"with the main objective of seeing if I could find a blackhawk holster to fit the gun"
I take it you always have your holster shopping filmed?
S1lvanus 2 months ago
excellent vocab
applefan236 2 months ago
It is amusing that your firearm became a leash
fadedflage 2 months ago
You sould have put your handgun a gun case. Than there wloud have been no problem.
falco6789 2 months ago
I carry concealed all the time in Cabela's. I have even asked if it is allowed and they said as long as I have a CCW permit, but they didn't ask to see the permit. Go figure.
skipwadoo 2 months ago
So the fact that you walked into the store smiling tells the real story here.
coldfusionacura 2 months ago 17
@coldfusionacura that gay its a gun store ,that like pet-co saying only vet can brag in their pets is not for safety. cos if some one like you kill people all thy have to do is take some ammo out of a ammo value pack. of shot gun shells.thy are never back in glass ,ask to see a shotgun ,are take some hunting tips out of the box ,put them on a arrow and stab some one
big2112killer 1 month ago
@coldfusionacura yep. it was completely staged... the fact that he had a friend taping him right before he entered says it all.
spampy106 1 month ago
Cabela's Sandy, Utah. They have a place inside the store past the front doors where you are asked to check your weapon in. You may retrieve it on the way out. What's wrong with that? I think they're being quite nice about it.
sandrifter 2 months ago
I wish I had a "Gun Library"
TheWitchOvAgnesi 2 months ago
My suggestion? Bring your hand gun (unloaded) into the store in a simple paper bag or a vanilla carry case. Then, discreetly pull the gun out to try it in the various holsters that you're interested in to make sure that it fits. Then, pick the holster/s that you want and put the gun back into your paper bag or carrying case and pay for your purchase and leave.
That is the policy of a local sportings goods store here. It looks like Cabela's employees and Mgt are CONFUSED in this case.
DanH454 2 months ago
I OC'ed in Cabela's in Lehi Utah for a couple hours and nobody said a word.
highdesertutah 2 months ago
i worked at a cabelas throughout college. that person at the door who directed you towards the hunting department screwed up. they were supposed to check your gun to see if it was loaded and then escort you to the gun library where it would be kept safe. go grab some holsters walk in the library where an outfitter will help find a holster you prefer. you go finish your shopping, after you check out a outfitter will escort you outside.
cpage305 2 months ago
waste of my time trying to listen. good song but it does nothing for the video. why do people insist on adding music to their videos?
fauxhawk70 2 months ago
this is ridiculous, i live close to billings mt. and there is a cabelas here. i open carry everytime i go in there store and i have never encountered a problem. but in montana unrestricted open carry is right protected by the state constitution.
DefendersOfMontana 2 months ago
I wonder if you can open carry if you have a CCW in Cabela's.
FriendofCat 2 months ago
@FriendofCat one of those "c" stands for consealed it should stay
cpage305 2 months ago
@FriendofCat 3:32
TheKrazydreams 2 months ago
@FriendofCat yes you can
jawbone83 2 months ago
@FriendofCat their policy is unclear.
jawbone83 2 months ago
My only beef is that every time I buy a gun at this location, it takes all day for them to find an employee to walk it out with me. I don't buy guns there anymore unless it's too good of a deal to pass on. Also, the taxes in Hazelwood are higher than here in St. Charles, where there are plenty of fine firearms dealers =)
MrZgti 2 months ago
That is not what was posted on the door of the one in Washington state. It said that all RIFLES must be unloaded and if I wished to do a holster fitment test then I had to go to the entrance and do the unload etc there.
There is another store that is unclear about policy and law also in Washington state.
Freedom1man 2 months ago
NO WHERE in the US Constitution does it say that you have a right to "Open Carry" a firearm.Nor does it say that you have a right to take a firearm into someone elses private property without their consent.If you open carry, you are asking for trouble.I'm a strong 2a supporter but that doesn't mean I'm stupid.I believe CWP is the way to go.Nobody has ever called the cops on me.
Dragonslayer26283 2 months ago
I'm all about 2A rights. Unfortunately, this is a prime example of what Grandpa told me long ago: "If you go out looking for trouble, you're probably going to find it." He carried a Mauser .25 in his overalls for 63 years without anybody ever knowing it--mainly because he didn't tell them. I got thrown out of a McDonald's once for show and tell. Use your mind.
a7mmnut1 2 months ago 4
How did he fit a Mauser into overalls? Those must have been some big overalls lol.
Plato86 2 months ago
@Plato86 Do you even know what a .25 caliber Mauser looks like? Google it, and you'll see how ridiculous that statement is.
mryesterday 2 months ago
@a7mmnut1 I agree...little stunts like this are part of the cause for "anti-guns" activists to pursue what they are looking for.You can order just about ANY holster for ANY weapon online and have it shipped directly to your door.That woulda solved ALOT of problems rite off the bat here.Im from a state(NY) where ONLY concealed carry is allowed...Ive never had an issue walking into walmart with my firearm...wanna know why?Because nobody ever even knew it was there,and I dont "Show and Tell"
mattsrepair10 2 months ago 3
@mattsrepair10 Good points, interesting in Watertown NY you Can go into Gander Mt. but not the rest of the mall even though its the same mall.
belair55zz56 2 months ago
Lol you made him wast his time lol I would have not been so nice I would walk out and right back in
sk8starr2000 2 months ago
Cabela's is a private establishment, they can make their own rules. This is *NOT* a rights issue, other than private property rights. In fact, you are basically complaining that you weren't allowed to violate THEIR private property rights.
FoxeoGames 2 months ago 3
@FoxeoGames They don't have the right to violate the Constitution.
The same Constitiution that allows for them to have private property does not end at their doorstep.
It is a private company that is open to the public.
usarmycaptainamerica 2 months ago 2
@usarmycaptainamerica private = they can make whatever policy they choose as long as it doesn't harm anyone, it doesn't matter if it's open to the public, it's owner is private and allowed to make their own choices.
bkershaccount 2 months ago
@usarmycaptainamerica the private owner is protected under the consitution just as much as the man carrying the gun.
bkershaccount 2 months ago
@usarmycaptainamerica They have the right to protect their private property by disallowing anyone with a firearm to enter their premises.
mryesterday 2 months ago
Cabela's welcomes CCW holders because of the back ground checks that have been done, and I'm not saying that cabela's doesn't trust open carry but it does set people uneasy. and yes you have your right to open carry where the laws allow. but if a business doesn't won't you to open carry they should post and/or tell you at the door as you enter. I have only one solution for this is take your business elsewhere---------
No Guns = No Money
obxeddie64 2 months ago
Shame you can't hear anything being said because the BLASTED music is so loud. Good to see someone handle this situation like an adult. You and Cabella's handled the manner as it should have been handled.
backyarddoall 2 months ago
Thanks sooo much for making this video. I agree with others that you should make one without the music. I love the fact that the Gander Mountain in my town encourages open carry. They even old open carry seminars. To all the haters...FU!!!
XistenceisFutile 2 months ago
You were looking for trouble. Why else would you a friend following you around with a camera?
TheChuck624 2 months ago
I can't see where Cabela's can legally remove a firearm from a person where no open carry laws exist. Maybe if you let them, yes. BUT, I don't see where Cabela's Inc. has the power to override state or federal statuate law of the 2nd Admendment. I would have probably told them that I have a backup pistol and to give mine back IMMEDIATLY or face a lawsuite.
MydogTobes 2 months ago
I don't have a problem with a private property owner placing restriction on the use of their property. That is known as property rights. But I would think Cabela's would be prepared for open carry.Perhaps post a no weapons policy outside their store. Or post instructions to report to the customer service counter first.
timuwe 2 months ago
first things first never let some one you dont know hold your gun not a smart move on your part
underlourd11 2 months ago
why didn't you just bring the gun in a case and carry another gun concealed??? Practically ALL holsters will tell you exactly the make & model of the gun it will fit. Unless you had some WWII german relic. IMHO
Gixxer16 2 months ago
Always carry , never tell... Bingo. problem solved.....
PublicFilthSpeeks 3 months ago
that cabelas looks exactly like the one here in nebraska im guessin they all look the same its even identical from the inside
HostinUrParty 3 months ago
Im torn between my responses here. The best way to go about this is to bring the gun in the store in a case and then check holster fit(I have the same issues with my Safariland 6280 holsters) BUT on the other hand you can apparently openly carry in your state. I think the best way to reach a happy medium here is to bring it in in a carry case next time. I do support OC and CCW and have 4 permits. No offense,but I think you were pushing the limits of good judgement and I hope you learned.
cortchubbby 3 months ago
these guys that work at cabela's are no more sportsman or know anything more about guns then the same people that work at wal mart, i would have walked around the store for a good hour just to prove a point, and i NEVER would have let someone remove my firearm from my person .
TheTater1984 3 months ago
I won't be shopping at Cabelas anymore.
InfantryGeek 3 months ago
It seems like you were purposely looking for a confrontation of some sort or otherwise you would not have filmed the whole encounter. Being a private business Cabela's can restrict how firearms are carried in the store. You can just as easily go to the counter and ask for the holster you want and have the gun in a carrying case until you get to the counter. I am all about asserting rights, but you don't have to go looking for confrontations either.
cjayabrams 3 months ago
At Cabelas, you have to check your firearm in at the check in counter at the front door if you want to handle and try out any accessories for your firearm. There they will render your gun safe and an employee will take your gun back to the gun section behind a counter marked "Gun Checkout" and will hand you a ticket with a number on it representing your firearm. You can then go find the accessories you want, bring them back to the counter with your ticket, and try them out on your firearm.
stuntboy692 3 months ago
first mistake is you handed YOUR weapon over to someone else. Second, you could just take the holster over to the firearms counter and tell them you want to see that weapon and they will let you test fit it. problem solved.
returnersr 3 months ago
Here in sweden the law says no worknife in public areas...
MrFreddeK 3 months ago
It looks like you carried it into a MALL dude. You're lucky you didn't get cited for inducing panic.
TalulahsDaddy 3 months ago
@TalulahsDaddy Cabella's is a freakin outdoor/ hunting store.. there are hundreds of guns in that building.
rbandgh3 3 months ago
@TalulahsDaddy It looks like you are a dumbass. 1st, Cabelas isn't a MALL, dude. 2nd, open carrying where it is legal doesn't induce a panic, whatever that is.
rbryanhull 3 months ago 4
@TalulahsDaddy Uh... He has the right to open carry. If other people call the police the police should explain to those people that he is not breaking any law rather then harrass him. Maybe if they did that a little more often we wouldn't have a society that is completely ignorant of their own rights... after all if they knew they have the right to open carry they wouldn't panic when they see some one open carry now would they?
MrAwsome514 3 months ago
@TalulahsDaddy It's cabelas, half the people in there were probably lookin at the gun trying to see what kind it was.
vachamps 2 months ago
@TalulahsDaddy - You've obviously not been to a Cabelas. They're never mall stores. Cabelas is an outdoor gear store including hunting (i.e. guns), fishing, and general outdoors gear. The video highlights a very curious store policy for a place that sells guns and gun supplies. There's no reason to not give the gun his unloaded gun back.
2011blueman 2 months ago
@TalulahsDaddy Stupid comment.
preppervseconomy 2 months ago
Why is the guy so nervous its pretty easy take it out of the holster with your finger off the trigger and pull the slide back eject the round lock it open and make sure its empty. Then try it in different holsters.
LiveFreeOrDie1985 2 months ago
It really isnt worth video taping. Its a private business and if they tell you that you have to wear sandals to come in they can.
148scalemodeling 3 months ago
how can we hear with all the damn loud music?
threelittleniglets 3 months ago
They have no right to take your gun, Where I live Gander Mt. will take your long gun but not your pistol, however you cant walk into the rest of the mall with it.
belair55zz56 3 months ago
Why would anyone carry an unloaded weapon?? That is insane...
raedwulfone 3 months ago
You are what ruins the 2nd ammendment right for the rest of us.
fshhntr25 3 months ago
I'll teach all you yunguns how to properly fit your weapon to it's holster for your unique design and usage of the holster. I agree with both saminwa and ju. So all you unloaded and crybabies pay attention. Buy every holster that you might want, on the creditcard (return terms are not final) use each for a week solid, and start taking back the ones you don't like. Or do it one at a time. No sense in making a show for no reason but to satisfy yourself. Did management have any headsup?
XGCScrappy 3 months ago
My only comment is that it is very dangerous to open carry a gun that is UNLOADED.
saminwa 3 months ago 45
@saminwa What states allow open carry but it must be unloaded. I was very surprised to hear about this. I've been open carrying for over 10 years in Louisiana and someone asked if I carry it loaded. I replied, "who would carry a unloaded gun." I guess I've been proven wrong. Sorry but this is nothing more than a show if you open carry an unloaded weapon. Get a ccw.
neodeville 3 months ago
@saminwa unloaded for the reason of knowing it was to be working with it to test fit holsters.
sohighlyunlikely 3 months ago 3
@sohighlyunlikely open carry is only allowed on state property or your own. If a business does not wish you to open carry in their store than you must obey if you want to continue shopping. You should have checked the gun at the front desk explaining what you were bringing it in for. Then I think everything would have been completely normal. I wouldnt allow you to carry in my house just the same. I would want to be the one with the power to put you down and so do they.
DThompson1985 3 months ago
@sohighlyunlikely Then bring the firearm into the store in a closed case discretely not open carrying on your hip
mmbabamckee 2 months ago
@sohighlyunlikely is that in kutztownn PA
shawn4201111 2 months ago
@shawn4201111 there is no cabelas in kutztown. its in hamburg. plus the description says where he is
sik59rt 1 month ago
@saminwa why dangerous to open carry an unloaded gun. if it's legal it's fine. that kind of logic is like saying "if a girl walks around topless she's going to get raped".
macchef01 2 months ago
Private property buddy. They could have just told you to leave.
kjjjkjjjkjjjk 3 months ago
Man I go to that store, I got out of prison 2 years ago for aggravated murder with a firearm and I know to keep my gun stashed so they cant see it!
larsonb33 3 months ago
@ju66al070
and your the liberal bitch who will get mugged by street scum and will suffer injuries because he had a knife and you were helplessly unarmed
Diipnmyliip 3 months ago 6
@Diipnmyliip Well, actually normally I would agree with you, but the main thing is the practicality of the whole situation. True, it is his right to open carry, but its unwise when it can alarm liberals you pass by further incorrectly defining their position on the far left of firearm restriction, as well as the fact that a basic case to carry the gun prevents someone from stealing it off you. Also, by personal experience, i find those who conceal carry are much more mature as far as minset
ELITEHAMSTER123 3 months ago
@Diipnmyliip than those who open carry. But thats just my opinion.
ELITEHAMSTER123 3 months ago
@Diipnmyliip Somebody's been watching too many movies. Any idea how many "self-defense" firearms actually ever get fired in anger? Hmmm. And how many of those same "self-defense" guns get illegally sold at gun shows and end up being used in crimes?
You people are literally allergic to coherent thinking. *shakes head*
Valyn66 3 months ago
As I live in Springfield, MO I am proud to say that Bass Po Shops allows holstered Open Carry in their stores all the time! When Cabela's doesn't stand for your values, shop at businesses that DO! Thank you Bass Pro Shops!!!
LoweDownDriver 3 months ago
Cabela's is a private business. If they want to make a rule saying no firearms they can do so. If they want to make a rule saying no customers allowed who aren't wearing orange shirts they can do so.
thegizmoguy1 3 months ago 44
@thegizmoguy1 Yeah I agree, people complain that their 2nd amendment rights are being infringed on in these
situations and they forget the private property rights of the store owner. Does the rule make sense? Not to me really, but I don't own the store.
thefinder808 3 months ago
@thegizmoguy1 true but doesn't it seem paradoxical that a place which sells firearms ammunition and innumerable accessories for said firearms would have such a policy?
buddhafyre 3 months ago
@thegizmoguy1 true but doesn't it seem paradoxical that a place which sells firearms ammunition and innumerable accessories for said firearms would have such a policy?
buddhafyre 3 months ago
@thegizmoguy1 true but doesn't it seem paradoxical that a place which sells firearms ammunition and innumerable accessories for said firearms would have such a policy?
buddhafyre 3 months ago
@thegizmoguy1 Cabela's is not a "private business". If you go into Cabela's are you "out in public on private property" or "out among the populace while on private property"? NO you are not any of those..Everyone can go into Cabela's..So you are just "out in public". They (Cabela's) can NOT enforce tresspass laws, ONLY loitering laws. If you purchase even a $0.25 pack of gum you are no longer loitering (keep the receipt on you).
MydogTobes 2 months ago
@thegizmoguy1 Yeah or black...oops nevermind. Cracker Barrel learned that one the hard way.
Ripside2 2 months ago
@thegizmoguy1 Damn right... had a guy think he could walk into my home one time carrying, I said ahhh no... I make the rules here take it off or get out.
1overthehillsfaraway 2 months ago
@thegizmoguy1 Damn right... had a guy think he could walk into my home one time carrying, I said ahh no... I make the rules here take it off or get out.
1overthehillsfaraway 2 months ago
@thegizmoguy1 It's pretty hilarious that you're saying it's perfectly fine for a business to make gun control but not the state. That's a huge contradiction. So you're saying that the Constitution do not apply to Cabela's? I see no difference in the state or Cabela's making gun control. You treat a business as if they're lords of the universe which they're not. According to you it would be fine for the state to make any rule saying that despite the Constitution people can't carry guns openly!
SquirrelFromGradLife 2 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife youre a dumbass. States (or any government for that matter) have the authority to take away the "freedoms" of its citizens. Cabela's does not. They are a privately run business and have the ability to service those who they see fit under the guidelines they so choose. They do not accept tax dollars, they do not have the power to incarcerate you. If you dont like their policies DONT SHOP THERE! Go some where else you rich motherfucker!!
m1a2sg 2 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife "It's pretty hilarious that you're saying it's perfectly fine for a business to make gun control but not the state. That's a huge contradiction. "
No, it's not. You're ignorant of private property laws.
moopism 2 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife You have a right to not wear a shirt, but I have a right to require you to wear one in my restaurant, stupid.
luvcheney1 2 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife It doesn't apply to Cabela's private property. Constitutional law is based on right of property, and if you're on their PRIVATE property they have the full right to ask you to leave, or trespass you if you're refusing to leave for whatever reason. Trust me when I say you don't want to have armed trespassing laws filed against you. This is why we have concealed carry laws.
taurran 2 months ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife The Constitution was not written, nor applies, to private citizens or businesses, it applies to federal, state, and local governments.
Xhavan 2 months ago
@Xhavan That has to be the most moronic statement I've ever heard.
dbierman2001 1 month ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife
There is no contradiction. Cabelas store is private property.Your 2nd amendment rights do NOT trump Cabelas private property rights.Would you want government forcing YOU to allow activities on your property that you didn't want?Business owners ARE lords of the universe on their own private property.
I'll stand right beside anyone and argue in favor of the 2nd amendment,there is no bigger supporter than I,but my rights can never supersede someone elses
funkyzero 2 months ago 78
@funkyzero I agree with you in general, but you are wrong about "owners ARE lords of the universe on their own private property." You forget about the Pruneyard case? Study you Constitutional Law a bit more, old boy.
Robert111 1 month ago
@funkyzero
You are 100% correct. What pisses me off more is that this guy went in to a pro firearm retailer looking for trouble. I do not know a single firearms store that is ok with you removing a weapon from its holster while in the show room to try a different holster out. Everytime Ive been asked to leave the store, unload it, and then bring it back in. Liability is high enough for those guys, give em a brake
JJ13233343 1 month ago
@funkyzero actually, store owners do not have infinite control, there are many rights patrons have and obligations the store has, just look at the handicap requirements as one example. Carrying a firearm is just another one of those things society has to agree on and those agreements are subject to change.
Not that I agree with holstering an unloaded weapon unless required by law, like in CA.
I also do not agree with him making his intentions ambiguous or being disrespectful.
l337pwnage 1 month ago
@funkyzero amen to that! Excellent video response. I could not have said it better.
citrano2012 1 month ago
@funkyzero Thanks for the wise and well spoken facts.
thinblueline725 4 weeks ago
@funkyzero You say you right can not supersede others but that allows yours to be superceded. That is what the problem is. Who's right is more important? I say mine,you say yours.
chmfiam 3 weeks ago
@funkyzero I agree, but I would check Missouri law. Most open carry and concealed carry states have written legislation that requires private businesses to put up official signs prohibiting it. In Texas, private businesses must have an OFFICIAL sign. It can't just read "No Firearms." A sign like this does not apply to a concealed carrier. There are specific requirements to the official sign, even down to the size of the letters. Plus, the carrying laws in Missouri are sporatic...
Texaroni1231 3 weeks ago
@funkyzero Agreed. They have the right to forbid any type of carry in their store, just as you have the right to shop elsewhere in protest to it. You make the rules on your property, they make the rules on theirs.
Figgleswortification 3 weeks ago
@funkyzero I agree, and this behavior is something a teenager would do. Why do you feel the need to walk in a store where there is ammo accessible on the shelves. people like that are asking for trouble and do not understand the Constitution and there State Laws. People like that ruin shit for the people that carry responsibly.
Geronimo1501st 2 weeks ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife By making them allow open carry you are allowing the government to interfere with a private business and their rights. The answer is don't shop there. Though I must say that if I worked at a gun shop or sporting goods store I would be pretty nervous with people pulling their weapons. You and I might be responsible but we both know there are a lot of idiots out there.
joeashley73 1 month ago
@SquirrelFromGradLife we are talking about the rights of private property owners idiot, and yes it should be the their right to make their own policies because it's their business that's directly affected. how would you like it if you owned a business and couldn't create your own policy for something that hurt your business? noone is arguing the second amendment, this is not a second amendment issue!!!
TheDoesmoker 1 month ago 2
@SquirrelFromGradLife Ever seen a sign that says "No shirt, no shoes, no service." ? In this case it was "No OC." Private property is PRIVATE. That means the owner makes the rules.
It isn't that hard to understand.
mapache11 1 month ago 3
@thegizmoguy1 NO SHIT SHERLOCK, BUT THEY CANT HOLD HIS GUN LIKE THAT NOT TO MENTION THEY DIDNT EVEN ASK HIM TO LEAVE, THE TOOK HIS WEAPON AND TOLD HIM HE WOULD GET IT BACK OUTSIDE THE STORE!!!! WOW HOW FUCKIN PEOPLE CANT UNDERSTAND THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE!!! =)
GeorgeWashiification 2 months ago
@thegizmoguy1 You're very correct, and I choose to refuse to shop at Cabella's for their policy regarding this issue.
anynameplease 2 months ago
@thegizmoguy1 You're very correct, and I choose to refuse to not shop at Cabella's for their policy regarding this issue.
anynameplease 2 months ago
@thegizmoguy1 That is not true and you are in error. Their are civil rights laws that protect against businesses from doing the thing you suggest.
greylock1959 2 months ago