HISTORY OF THE SOVIET SPACE SHUTTLE "BURAN" part 3/5

[helljumpr5150]

After reading the comments of which space-faring nation was superior, think of this:

If Germany had either had stayed neutral or won WW2, it would've been Von Braun's Aggregat rockets that would put the first satellites and men in space and on the moon in the 50s and 60s. USA and USSR would be left in the dust.

Korolov was brilliant, but the USSR didn't get to do those 'firsts' until they stole and reverse engineered all of Von Braun's captured equipment, and gave Korolov the money to do so.

[datzfast]

german technology shoot 3000 icbm at england and kill 7000 , its no wonder germany lost the war. a bullet costing a penny can kill a man. 3000 ICBM, i just can not believe how stupid an idea that is. stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid germans. dumkoff,

[povaruho]

USSR is the best!

[kaderoder]

Hahaha sucked in Russia!

The mighty USA beat you to the lie.

[roboticmehdi]

Sergei Korolev alone beated americans to space, but without him soviets could not make it to moon. We was a hero. We love you Sergei Korolev.

[dalek14mc]

@roboticmehdi-No, he didn't "beat" americans into space.

[roboticmehdi]

@dalek14mc ok, go on, continue.... im listening

[dalek14mc]

@roboticmehdi-Yuri was the first man, but he didn't at all beat america in space. Most of the soviet achievments were only months ahead of america.

[roboticmehdi]

@dalek14mc The space race is usually said to begin with the lauch of sputnik 1 and end with the apollo-soyuz test project. During this time interval 95% of the firsts were achieved by soviet union, whether it is the lauch of first satellite, or first man, or fist landings on mars and venus and moon, and many other things. Yes, united states was the first and is the only country to land a man on the moon. But the soviet space program was in trouble with the death of their leader, Korolev. .......

[roboticmehdi]

@dalek14mc ....... Also i really wonder why americans are so proud of themselves. After all it was Von Braun, a nazi, who did most of theings for usa. Remember the navy rocket launches which are failed? They had no choice but rely on german engineers, because americans could not engineer such a great technology. It was von Braun who launched american first satellite, american first man in space and he designed the most important part of apollo rockets, the F1 rockets........

[roboticmehdi]

@dalek14mc Unlike usa, the leader of soviet space program was a pure soviet man, Sergei Korolev. After all these things that i said are you still saying that Korolev alone did not beat americans into space? You must be ashamed to bring Von Braun, who slave labored jewish people to construct his V2 rocket, and make him the leader of your space program. My friend, look into the eyes of truth.

[dalek14mc]

@roboticmehdi-What do you mean by "pure," the soviets were about as corrupt as can be at the time. And no, van braun got his designs from robert goddard, an american rocket scientist, so no, I'm not ashamed. Look at you an your soviet leaders and how they corrupted our mind to think that the USSR was better than the US.

[roboticmehdi]

@dalek14mc First of all we were talking about space programme. If we go into politics america remains the only country to place nuclear bomb on innocent people, and today you corruption is number one. As for von braun, every engineer gets info available and makes it better. I could easily say that goddar used newtons f=ma so is it true to say he has stole from newton >??? Goddarb could never make a pump fed liquid propellant rocket engine.......

[roboticmehdi]

@dalek14mc ......Von brauns desing is unique and even today it is the heart of all rocket systems. he could build something nobody else could. As an engineer Von Braun was very succesfull, more successful than Sergei Korolev. He was a brilliant engineer, but as a human he was not. I suggest you being ashamed. Althoug his country arrested him, Korolev always worked for it and never gave up. I could also easily say that many people, including americans, took ideas of Tsiolkovski.........

[roboticmehdi]

@dalek14mc Without his ideas of multi-stage liquid rocket humans would not make it to space. so again i suggest you to look into the eyes of truth.

[dalek14mc]

@roboticmehdi-Just because you're a nazi today doesn't mean you are one tomorrow. Besides, he still borrowed heavily from Goddard.

BTW, you wanna talk truth? "I'm going to bury you" -Kruschev

Sounds like a pure nation to me.

[roboticmehdi]

I already explained what an engineer does and i already explained you who is who in the world. If you keep insisting on what you say by repeating what you say then i can no more help you. You may just go back and re-read my previous comments.

[dalek14mc]

@roboticmehdi-I'm not repeating the same thing. "Who is who" does not imply to something 60 years ago. You refuse to listen to my comments.

[roboticmehdi]

@dalek14mc If you are nazi today, you the same nazi tomorrow. Von Braun surrendered to americans only because he knew that they have money to build his rockets and he could finally fullfill his dreams. If soviets were richer he would have surrendered to soviets. And as i said before goddard is no where close to von braun. von brauns pump-fed liquid fuelled rocket is unique, far from goddarbs knowledge. And as i already said we are talking about space. ......

[roboticmehdi]

@dalek14mc You keep saying kruscevs words. If it comes to corruption usa always was number 1. from your beginning to today. And as i said before when usa saw that its engineers can not build a flying rocket they gave up and broght von braun to head. they had to because there was no other choice. if usa engineers were so smart why didnt they build their own rockets, hah ? Answer my question if you can.

[dalek14mc]

@roboticmehdi-Excuse me? I'e only used kruschevs words once.  So, why don't you explain to me why the US is number 1 at being corrupt. The US was completely capable of building a rocket before Van Braun. US engineers build many rockets before Van Braun even joined NASA. Who is telling you this Bullsh*t?

[roboticmehdi]

@dalek14mc Yes, usa was capable of building rockets before von braun. But compared to von brauns rockets they were toy rockets or water rockets, you can call it however you want. Im talking about real rockets, you are talking about toy rockets. Second, this is not a b.....t , this is the truth that you just dont want to know. I dont wanna talk much about politics in here but here are keywords to usa corruption and inhumanity : ............

[roboticmehdi]

@dalek14mc ......... keywords: indians, slaves from africa, nuclear warhead on innocent people in japan, iraq, afganistan, 9/11, pentagon, and infinitely many others things that i just dont want to mention in here.

[dalek14mc]

@roboticmehdi-.......Keywords: Slavery, Genocide, conspiracy theorist/hate mongers like you, hate towards other countries, false propaganda, lying politicians and officials, killing school children, Afganistan, Cuban missile crisis and things I just don't want to mention here.

[roboticmehdi]

@dalek14mc If you did not want to mention you should not have done. I didnt ask you about that. Also most of the things you have written are your lies. I think it is obvius in here who hates others and who disrespects others. People like you can never change. But i think you got you answer in here, this is just you trying not to give away your honor, but dont worry im not such a person. I do respect every human who has a heart in this world and i dont hate anyone. next, its up to you...

[dalek14mc]

@roboticmehdi-But you did the same thing to me. Fair is fair pal, that's how life is in the real world. An eye for an eye. Secondly, my "honor" is irrelevent, because that's not what were talking about.

BTW, I disrespect people? You've called my governement impure, you have accused my government of killing it's own people during 9/11. You've started your sentences with "Unlike the USA"(which never has a respectful tone to it. Take a good look at yourself my friend.

[roboticmehdi]

@dalek14mc First, There is a difference between between lying and saying the truth. I said i respect every human who has a heart. Your goverment does not. Second, Also i said thos things because you asked me a question, i had to answer. But on the other hand i did not ask you about soviet union. Third, you still havent answered my question. I think you do better have a look at your words rather that telling me to do so.

[dalek14mc]

@roboticmehdi-See, you're doing it again. You're the one who is saying that my government doesn't have a heart and you have the nerve to say that you respect every human being. You're government Isn't any better.

BTW you've answered your own question. In a previous comment, you said that the US WAS capable of building their own rockets.

P.S. The russians based their design of their ak-47 on the german STG-44, are the russians a bunch of nazis?

[roboticmehdi]

@dalek14mc First, please do not lie. I hate liars. Go back and re-read my comment and you will find out that i did not say "i respect every human being ", but i what i said was "i respect every human being who has a heart". Second, you dont know where i am from so please do not talk about things that you dont know. Third, yes i answered my own question and i said they were toy rockets. good. Fourth, how is your last sentence is relevant to what we are talking ?

[dalek14mc]

@roboticmehdi-You said that you respect every human being except my government, how is that lying when you said it yourself?  No they were not toy rockets, we were building substantial rockets before they even considered giving Van Braun the job.

[roboticmehdi]

@dalek14mc First, Im telling you this last time, i said i respect every human being who has a heart. You should really improve your reading skills. Second, considered to brauns rocket was not like anything ever made before, as i said his rocket was unique. even today rockets are based on his technology. Third, you are going too much off topic, first we were talking about rockets, then you driven us to politics then you tried new topic which was ak-47. What are we doing here? playing games?

[roboticmehdi]

@dalek14mc As i said before. even though americans had von braun they could not win the power of sergei korolev. He managed 95% of firsts during the space race. only when he died you took over and made it to the moon and thats thanks to germans. You are there you are here ,we cant go like this forever, and i have a strength of materials examination on monday, then thermodynamics on thursday. so i got a lot of study to do. And god bless you. I wish you the best :-)

[dalek14mc]

@roboticmehdi-American eventually won the space race didn't they? It really didn't matter who was on their side, both of them were influenced by the Nazis. Sergei's death had nothing to do with our moon missions. We were testing lunar equpment before Korolev even died. Sure, you'll come up with the usual ad hoque arguments saying that America did this and America did that, but you cannot deny that we won the space race.

[doctormarkon]

Καταπληκτικό. Αν είχε και μιά μετάφραση....

Ή αν ήξερα ρώσικα να μπορούσα να καταλάβω τι λέει.

Αλλά οι εικόνες λένε πολλά.

[xmilenako]

Παρουσιάζονται άγνωστες λεπτομέρειες για την πορεία του όλου εγχειρήματος(μεταφέρω τώρα!) ίσως γιατί τότε ήταν απόρρητες.

[nikolaos333]

Δεν ήσαν και τόσο απόρρητες. Τα είχε όλα το περιοδικό SPACE FLIGHT NEWS. Μέσω του Radio Moscow μού είχε απαντήσει σε όλες τις ερωτήσεις μου ειδικός επιστήμονας, αρκετούς μήνες πρίν εκτοξευτεί το Μπουράν.

[xmilenako]

Τι να πώ; Εχω μείνει!

[HellenicMagic]

Απο το πρωί "στις σκαλωσιές" Λαόνικε? Ατιμο μερικάματο. Αυτές οι εικόνες κάτι μου θυμίζουν (κάτι απο κάποιο πριβέ βιντεάκι...)

Μήπως τα έχεις τραβήξει εσύ τα πλάνα αυτά?

[nikolaos333]

Στο 4ο μέρος έχει σε μαυρόασπρο πραγματική κατασκοπεία! Δεν ξέρω τί ρόλο έπαιξε ο Σον Κόνερυ!