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  • If you can't tell that you're kid is smoking meth, you're a fail parent.

  • and for the std tests the kids are the only ones that should get the results the parents have no business knowing without the teens permission

  • Bunch of filthy fucking junkie whores

  • Terrible idea. Mainly because I would fail the drug test.

  • 3:19 Did Ana just admit to being a ho?

  • pre-teens? You mean like...11 and 12 year-olds?

  • There are age appropriate ways to explain the birds and bees to kids. The adults in their lives should give the kid enough detail for them to understand. In the same way a 5 year old normally can't do or comprehend long division, a little 7 year old would not be able grasp that little hole conversation.

    Instead, a parent should explain to kids enough about their bodies that they understand when a child predator comes along that they are trying to do something bad. It will equip the kid.

  • I care about this kind of screening so long as it is not a matter for the criminal justice system. It is not okay to give that kind of medical information out wholesale.

    The way they've made schools into a place where police officers remain to keep the peace, I don't want them principals able to handle the individual results.

  • no. i'm a teenager and theres no way i'm going to let somebody test me for STDs. i'm not even sexually active theres no way i have an STD. I don't need a nurse or doctor poking and prodding my private parts to see if i have warts. i can identify them myself anyways.

  • ...or maybe you could, y'know, legalize and regulate these drugs from a common sense perspecti... yeah nevermind.

  • stds, yes. drugs, no.

  • That violates the constitution. Search and seizure. That counts as a search.

  • drugs I kinda go no unless you have reason. For stds yeah once a year I feel is reasonable provided they are active and not the kids that are in the basement playing dungeons and dragons. Well unless it's sexy dungeons and dragons. Orc herpes are really nasty.

  • @mitenzouki And how does the test-taker know who was "active" ? By asking them?

  • @obijan42 If you think there is anyone who doesn't know you are having sex in high school or middle school then you are, usually, mistaken.

  • MY FIRST WAS MAGICAL LIKE A FAIRY TAIL...LOL...REALLY...WENT TO HEAVENS AND CUM DOWN...MAN I WAS SO YOUNG...

  • American society is everybody is guilty until proven innocent.

  • wwwwaaaaaaaaasssssssseeeeeeeek­kkkkkkkkkdddddddddddaaaaaaaaaa­aa!!!!!!!!!

    Made me laugh my ass off

  • STI testing makes sense to protect the child, but screening the child for drugs doesn't help the child, only it helps parents spy on their children.

    It also opens some MASSIVE issues in terms of who has access to that information (ie do positive STI results get shared with parents, do positive drug results get shared with family and police?).

    Bad idea, bad, bad idea.

  • I caught my son w/pot (he is 17) in our "discussion" about it, he said I could test him. Here is the problem with that. If I test him i am telling him that he will not learn from his mistakes, but repeat them.

    I would much rather show trust in him (even if he makes another mistake) than teach him that he can only do right if someone makes him.

  • @finerbiner Excellent point. There are psychological costs associated with making something mandatory, no matter how good you think it is for people. I don't think it's always easy for authoritarians and utilitarians to see that. You sound like a good dad. Hope it works out with your son.

  • when i'm a parent i'm not allowing any of this shit unless i say so, if they try to force us i'm moving to a freer country.

  • @ganggreensoldier The life expectancy of an untreated patient is between 6 months up to 2 years. The one of a treated patient, using the latest and most expensive medical care is between 10 to 15 years, in exceptional cases up to 25 years . That doesn't take in account the natural evolution of the virus which negates the medical advancements, and which are harder and harder to obtain - the initial drugs (like AZT) are now practically useless.

  • the first time definately isn't the best time for a girl. painful

  • Isn't this supposed to be the parent's responsibility...not the government?

  • @MLadyAzzera But how many parents are willing to have and bring their sons & daughters to go through a STD and Drug Screening is the question.

  • @EvilFingers There comes a point called personal responsibility. Quite frankly, required drug screening is a slippery slope best not traveled upon. It is not illegal to do drugs, but it is illegal to possess them. Prohibition is still quite debatable, and just like smoking cigarettes (which are illegal for minors to buy, but not use), should be up to the parent's and/or individual's right.

    As for STD screening, any sexually active individual should do this.

    Keep the law out of our bodies.

  • @MLadyAzzera I, for one, would like all STD carriers to be found and deported to Liberia.

    Just think about all the condomless fun that could be had... I have a dream!

  • @MLadyAzzera Its illegal to possess and do illicit drugs, such as Unprescribed Drugs, Heroin, Meth, Marijuana, etc.

    As for STD Screening, not every adult and teen are not willing to take that responsibility.

  • @ganggreensoldier There is no cure for AIDS, all the present drugs do is delay the inevitable while leaving the patient free to infect other people.

  • the system doesn't need any more information about us.

  • it will be pointless for drugs. But stds is different.

  • As a teenager I hated when anything like this would be suggested. I hated feeling like everyone assumed I was doing something wrong [of course, my own mom could tell for herself that I wasn't] simply because of my age. I wasn't having sex or doing drugs in high school so any kind of mandatory test for drugs/stds would have pissed me off. I support free/confidential STD tests at schools though to help keep kids clean.

  • I get the sex part, but drugs, really? You can't tell if your song or daughter is high? Come on...

  • what the f*ck rhymes with cooties

  • @taintedcreations1995 boobies ,

  • @taintedcreations1995

    tootie?? like the character from the old tv show "Facts of Life" lol

  • Each 'free' drug test costs $42. there goes our education budget. ++police state --child education.

  • This is just an excuse for intimate examinations, what preteen wants that cotton bud type thing being put down the japeye.

  • As with EVERYTHING, it's the small percentage of abusers that ruin it for everybody else.

  • I could really go for some meth right now. 

  • pretty important to expand our juvenile court system...

    a lot of money involved in there,

  • This is just the government's last ditch effort at trying to win the war on drugs. The logic here is that if kids are constantly being tested for drugs, they're just not going to bother getting into them. But this just means they're going to take extra steps to go around these tests.

  • this is some bullshit.I mean seriously treat minors like they are fucking prisoners.This isn't going to stop them.Why even do it

  • Meh, I don't mind taking drug tests... it's when you tell me I have to stop smoking weed, even though I make A's, that I have a problem.

  • @Resdim Stop wasting your time playing with your bong. Schools on every level have laughably easy tests. Try quantum entanglement for change. :)

  • @fingrid given the fact that it's been proven that thc actually stimulates brain cell growth....why not smoke? yeah, yeah, resin in your lungs, dude, vaporize, and then take your vaped herb and make some tea!

  • Sex. Most overrated thing ever! Except Nirvana...

  • "if you kids have AIDS" you fucking stupid, yes you should have your kids and yourself tested

  • I think these tests should be left up to the parents, not educators. Firstly, where would the time and funding come from? Secondly, there is a creepyness factor here that I just can't get past. Its a violation of these kids on a really weird level. If their parents want to submit them to these tests, fine. But schools... no. Spend the money to educate them.

  • waste of money and time. its up to you to be educated on sex and drugs.

  • Well, I was a good kid who was constantly accused of drug use and sex. On the one hand, the vindication would be good; on the other hand, I can't help imagine that kids would start drinking and using LSD (neither get screened from what I understand) because of the challenge of beating the system. Junior High was when most kids I knew began experimenting. So how about this. If you can send your kid for a checkup - screen without telling them - without records or the school involved.

  • ___ DRUG & DTD TESTiNG 4 TEACHERS & PARENTS OF PUBLiC SCHOOL KiDS ___

    Kids should not be exposed to drugged up or potentially contagious educators.

    AND parents w/drug or sex issues usually have kids with school problems.

    If the BiG government doesn't C it that way,

    Well then kids can nowadays take matters onto their own hands & post their teachers/parents drug/sexscapades on U tube or in line...

    Violation of Privacy is a shiny 2 edged sword*

  • If one is young and having sex you should get regular STD tests. It's just a good idea. As for drug testing that is completely up to the parents. If one thinks their child is doing drugs and screwing up their life one should get them tested. If a teen gets pregnant this is a sign of poor judgement and so the parents should have no problem getting them tested for what ever they want.

  • Yeah lets start making drug testing for everyone mandatory . Fuck off

  • I never did drugs as a teenager nether did 70% of the azns, black minorities in general. Just test the whities. I could be wrong and only white people openly do drugs.

  • @TheDevilsWisper

    True, very true.

  • If my first time was my best time.. I'm screwed..

  • Thumbs up if you have smoked weed at least once!!

  • At .43, "especially if it's for free".

    That's right Cenk, nobody pays for it. Nobody.

  • Yea. My first time was crap man. I didnt have rocket ships in my eyes.

    But it definitely got better with practice.

  • What for? It isnt going to stop them. Or are they looking for even more prisoners?

  • @fantasy0coach lol you won't get arrested if your parent get's you drug tested, it's different than getting drug tested at work or by the police. If the doctors release that information they'd be breaking doctor-patient confidentiality laws and could be sued. It's hilarious though your comment get's thumbed up so much, shows how stupid TYT fans are.

  • @fantasy0coach Jail for something that doesnt hurt anyone but yourself is fucking retarded

  • this is a civil rights issue, and as usual young people are treated as second class untrustworthy individuals.

  • when i was 12 i thought everyone had a penis like me and that girls just had boobs thats why they were girls......

  •  Ridiculous crap! Only in America!

  • 60% of all aids patients are gay males/gay injection drug users and it will be 55% gay males/gay injection drug users if current new cases continue.

    avert.org/usa-transmission-gen­der.htm

    I think condom use needs to be more promoted in the gay community. Not being mean, but straight males non drug using males account for about 11% either new cases or current cases. If you want to promote something with straight males it would be stop using injection drugs.

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  • Ana, you should REALLY start covering up

  • @liveattacklive

    She's wearing a long sleeved vneck. Bring it down.

  • These fuckers are more concerned with creating second class citizens and isolating us down to our chemical consumption than they are with providing facilities for education and community well-being. It is time for a revolution. It is inevitable.

  • If you people think pre-teens aren't having that much sex these days you're out of your mind. People are starting earlier and earlier, and we really need to be careful with that.

  • They don't understand, an std test can be very, very invasive and even painful.

  • I thought it was great that they brought up the first time with sex not being the greatest. If anything, teens should be warned that the first time will probably be horribly awkward and unenjoyable (especially if you are female with an intact hymen) and if it is your partner's first time too. I'm actually pretty surprised I continued to have sex after my first time because it was so awful, lol. I guess I was smart enough to know that not every time would be like that.

  • This is basically a result of calling in quits on trust.

    What happens when we stop trusting our kids?

    Has it really gotten so bad in the US that actually sitting down and having honest conversations with your own children about relevant and intimate issues has been totally abandoned?

    They are kids!

    Not drunk drivers!

  • What pre teen has stds

  • I always thought it was recommended to have regular health screening at least once a year. Also, people recommend that people eat less red meat, more veggies and watch less T.V.. I recommend that people read more books, especially The Hitchhiker's Guide to The Universe. Very good book. Recommend..... pshhhhhh.....

  • No. The costs alone would be enormously exorbitant to try to test every single teen/pre-teen in the United States of America regularly.

    Why are we inventing these pathetic excuses to make medical matters even MORE expensive when the national debt is as bad as it is and the job situation is as bad as it is?

    Let the parents buy the drug tests themselves.

    STD tests are different but parents should be allowed to opt out. What if the kid got an STD because his/her mother had it?

  • @fangorn23 Good point, but to your last question, depends on how the child got it from the mother. I am assuming you mean through childbirth (which for most diseases these days is extremely avoidable) but in some cases it could be because of abuse.

  • I fuck the living shit out of my girlfriend we're both 17 never had sex with anyone else fuck this

  • Unless you're a stupid as fuck parent; you will know if you're kid is doing meth. As far as pot goes you can figure that out IF they are a pot head. It's pretty obvious

  • @C1Era Lol

  • @C1Era the only reason i found out my cousin was a regular smoker is because it came up in a conversation. he still gets great grades in school and owns a company with his friends that helps to host parties at different night clubs. he is very successful in his career and that boy make sean paul look clean

  • My mom is the one who talked to me about the birds and the bees. It was probably less akward for her since we're very close, our age difference isn't much, and because i'm a girl. She didn't go in depth but did remind me to be safe. All parents should do that whether or not they have a close relationship or w.e....

  • The first time you have sex sucks. Just sayin...

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  • U got a great rack

  • Cenk says OF COURSE! More than M. Bison. /watch?v=X8u7px_GzWQ

  • OF COURSE!!!!

    

  • What about regularly screening adults for drugs and stds? Is adult health any less of an issue than pre-teens or teens?

    The std side I agree with - people should have a blood test on a regular basis like any other medical check, like an eye test.

    The drug issue is where I think it gets dodgy and moves from being a public health to a social control issue. Std's don't criminalise people, positive drug tests do. So is this a heath issue or law enforcement?

  • @Teloculos Maybe they feel adults are responsible enough to make an appointment to get screened. Teens might feel like they'll get in trouble if they go, or maybe they don't know where to get screened.

  • @CakeBeneathTheIcing

    What you forgot that you smoked a joint or snorted some coke and want to find out? Or see if anyone's been spiking your food/drink? No, that's bullshit. The only reason for drug testing is law enforcement, and why differentiate on that between kids and adults?

    And I don't know any adults besides sex workers who go for regular std screening so why should children be compelled to be tested for things that adults are not?

  • Parents shouldn't avoid talking about things with their kids just because they're uncomfortable. Often the uncomfortable conversations are the most important ones to have.

  • What a disgusting oppressive form of social control. Preteens (and teenagers) have lower STD rates than adults do (not to mention the fact that most of them aren't even sexually active!). The only point is to make these kids feel ashamed about their behavior and feel that they're under a close watch and to humiliate them so they feel they have no privacy and no personal autonomy.

  • Why drugs? I get std's but why drugs!?

  • If you get a STD while on drugs it cures itself. That's just science.

  • std's, yes. drugs, no.

  • LOL CENK

  • Ana is such a fucking whore. I can tell.

  • SUDDENLY!......GIRAFFES!

  • "Most teenagers do experimentation."

    You speaking from experience Ana? Stop pushing bullshit cunt.

  • Pre-Teens is too much. That's unnecessary. Anytime before 14 is unneeded. You're really going to screen 12 year olds for STDs? And drugs? what?

  • @MrHav1k

    Well if you kid is Catholic you better screen your toddlers for STDs too

  • @Shadowlit001

    Not funny.

  • @MrHav1k

    but practical

  • @MrHav1k Kids do drugs and have sex at age 11 now. It's sad, but it's the real world.

  • @MrHav1k The problem is that pre-teens are having unsafe sex and doing drugs. They're still at risk.

  • @EmberFaust

    U trollin? Kids 12 and under aren't having sex and doing drugs. God help them if they ever did.

  • @MrHav1k I lost my virginity at 13- and I was one of the last of my peers to lose it. So yes, before 14 is necessary.

  • @jenisedai

    Well then you and all your peers ARE FUCKED UP. Your parents clearly failed.

  • @MrHav1k Way to have an intelligent conversation (NOT!). I have news for you- there are a lot of teens out there having sex (and getting pregnant) in middle school. You may not like it, but that doesn't mean it's not true. Take of the blinders and face the facts.

  • @jenisedai

    2 kids got knocked up in middle school a decade ago....

    LETS TEST EVERYONE!!!!

  • @MrHav1k But you could catch abusers, because it would be so abnormal for a younger child to have an STD. Drugs...meh.

  • @MrHav1k A noticeable number of children begin having sex around 10-11, if theyre having sex you can get STDs

  • @Xaklyth

    I'm not buying it. I'm talking about consensual sex, not abuse here. 

  • Ana is wrong here. This is disastrous. If the kids don't do drugs now they'd be forced into drugs by parents' nosy behavior.

  • Here's the basic deal. Take the kids regularly to their PRIVATE physician if they wish to have a check up. Give them drug test if they starts stealing your money and the other drug related symptoms. Give them an STD test if they tell them it hurts when they pee.

  • Great!

    Gettin tested is good! HOWEVER...will the government provide the cost for the medications?????

    That is the real question!

  • It would cost a lot less to legalize weed, have DARE programs come in, and do comprehensive sex ed.

    But that would be too easy, and no lobbyists would profit from it.

  • They should provide free home drug-test kits for parents, to be able to find out if your child is experimenting, and needs some insight and information---all while not getting it on their record, or reported to the police.

    .

    Personally I did A LOT of experimenting with drugs in my early & mid teens---a great deal of which was too much, and would not have happened had I got some words of wisdom from my parents---who had them, but simply didn't know what I was doing.

    I wish they did.

  • Drug, STD Tests for POLITICIANS !!!!

  • @dAda313 Drug & STD tests for politicians? You mean test to see if the people who run our country and dictate the way in which we can live our lives, to see if they're using mind altering substances? This has already been suggested many times over---time after time we're told its simply unethical---which OF COURSE its unethical.

    .

    Its unethical to intrude on the lives of our incorruptible leaders by seeing if they're using drugs, but its mandatory for us to monitor the habits of harmless teens

  • @Jex134 exactly :(

  • @1995Nekfeu But many hardcore drugs stay in the system for only a couple days, while weed will stay in much longer, up to a month. So you will only find marijuana users if the other users find out a couple days in advance

  • dr. drew is a fraud and supports demonizing pot

  • Seriously, What Does This World Have to Do To Legallise Drugs?!?

  • ITS JUST ANOTHER way OF CONTROLLING PEOPLES RIGHTS... So I Disagree In That Matter.

    FUCKHEADS

  • People dying cause they cant afford basic care. And a recommendation to get REGULAR drug and sexual disease tests, for ALL PRETEENS!!! All those tests would cost more than $200 for medical costs. Every PRETEEN should do this several times a year???

  • This makes 0 sense to me...

    TYT doesn't want drug testing, but they want STD testing.

    So, you want to know if your kid has herpes, but you don't want to know if they're doing the hero.

    So....you're concerned if they got the dribble, but not if they're addicted to something that could affect their physical, mental, and emotional well being.

    HRM....

  • @strongpimphand using doesn't equal addiction with infection you need knowledge for treatment

  • I am guy and never got the talk about the birds and the bees.

  • never "screen" someone who just wants info GG

  • They don't even teach sex ed in some schools but you want them to legislate std testing? Are they going to legislate testing among adults too... ?

  • @MavenCree is it a problem to know whether or not someone has a disease that can cause serious harm and make an atempt to not spread ir?

  • Puh-lease. Marijuana stays in your system the longest, hard drugs are hard to trace over a week's time, Pot stays there for a month. This is just another way to discriminate and create second class citizens over a benign plant. The writing is on the wall. Fuck you DEA.

  • its more fear mongering and paranoia i would expect that the AAP has some other motives drug use in pre-teens is rare, and the vast majority of illicit drugs consumed are consumed by adults not teens or preteens. just one more useless recommendation in the drug war, but STI screening is vital 

  • you can tell if your kid is doing drugs...you just have to pay some damn attention.

    especially if its meth or something, holy shit.

  • Louis CK is awesome

  • NO... any argument is invalid... i don't do drugs and i believe that its wrong to test people...

  • No testing pre-teens for STDs/STIs. That's kind of invasive and I feel they'd be too young to handle that kind of thing. Just educate them at home about the risks and have a full-disclosure standpoint with your children and sexuality.

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  • i think teenager should be able to test theyr drugs at school for quality and quantaty so they get the best bang for the buck

  • Time to eat popi seed biscuits before I go to the doctor

  • Experimentation my ass all i heard when i was in high school drug this part this bad trip that and so on. Drug test should happen holy shit i've never did that shit cause only bad shit comes from drugs.

  • what a great discussion!keep it on! love you!

  • i work in a medical lab, and there have been times when i get chlamydia tests from a 13 year old, and it's gone as young as 3 years old. kinda makes you wonder.

  • I guess this is good.... But people having sex younger and younger. Not sure what to think about that.

  • kids are becoming sexually active younger and younger. I can understand it for the sexually active kids, drugs not so sure.

  • where has the trust gone?

  • I'd only want std tests just 'cause it's better to know sooner than later treatment wise

  • @davidthesurfer You have an STD...don't you.

  • STD test I'm fine with. But if that drug test has marijuana as a drug label I'm going to tell them to fuck off and focus on the ones that might kill me like cocaine or heroin

  • in canada i went to an std clinic to test out if i got fucked...and she asked me if i did drugs...i said no...then 5 secs later i said i smoked weed and she said "well weed isn't a real drug, i meant hardcore drugs" I LOLED SOOOOO HARD!

  • Tests: HELL NO! FREEDOM!

  • I support this.

  • other than pot, a harmless drug. go for it

  • @pigeonmaster1 so this way the best students lose everything because they were caught with pot

  • oppose

  • There's being uncomfortable and there's being a bit worried because the person you are talking to may feel uncomfortable, and they look much the same. I'd be only too keen to tell my daughter about how disrespectful and sexist men can be (and how women can facilitate this with their own ingrained sexism), but it's finding the right time and having some surity that what I said would be taken on board that I'd be worried about.

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  • @ViolentRiC maybe it went over every one else's head too?

    It certainly went over mine...

    Care to explain the pervy-wankerness nature of the effectiveness of her Dad at explaining the birds and the bees?

  • I completely agree with testing children for drugs and diseases. Don Corleone said it right: keep the narcotics away from the kids. I am pro-drug-test: I simply don't understand why it could be a bad thing.

  • kids will be expelled based on this.