@DesolateGrunt Kind of have to agree with cjs0071 there... 1946 has been worked on for like 10 years. There's no way Cliffs of Dover stands up to 1946's massive modding community as well as the quantity of flyable planes. Last I heard there's no dynamic campaign for Cliffs of Dover either, which is a *huge* downside.
I can`t believe I`ve gone through 3 large upgrades over 5 years waiting for this thing to be completed. I get the feeling that I`ll probably never see it come out.
@flemmong When I worked in IT, I had a theory. The theory stated that, if you gave users a box, told them thatthe box was God and that it would do anything they asked, their first comment would be that it was the wrong colour!!! Only very few years ago, this level of graphic would have been hailed as superb for STILL shots; a few years before that it would have been regarded as science fiction. Why the hell to people have to whinge and criticise soomething that, though wonderful, is unfinished.
I'm not sure if this is still planned, but there is supposed to be a weathering effect that increases over time on a plane. The more you fly the more dirt, and chipping appears on the skins.
On top of that, there's a robust community that will be creating skins from the get go.
There is weathering effects yes, if its dynamic i dont know but i bet it is since they've got the whole thing implemented. At the start of a mission you can actually choose both visual and physical weathering if you want. Like i said how it works in realtime as you fly i dunno but i bet Oleg has it under control :D
*Sigh* I wanna get this game, but my PC might simply explode when I try to do anything in mission builder. It has trouble running the one in 1946, even though the rest of the game runs perfectly on high graphics. EVEN THOUGH IT IS A DELL XPS-8000.
@tankeriv Poor pilots blame the equipment. If you were getting shot down easily in 109s, then you are just a poor pilot. If you were getting shot down AT ALL in 190s, it's more likely you're just a complete moron.
@HayateAce Well mr HayateAce, it looks like you are one of the idiots that follow the Oleg Fanclub.
In the IL2 engine the FW190 has a very poor damage model and an even worse flight model.
I where able to have a sneak peak into the engine. And I saw the number of HP´s given to the FW190 that was incredibly low. And to a couple of Russian crates a number of HP´s that was way too high.
That thus so far concludes the fact about the IL2 engine.
@tankeriv Blah, blah. The fact that you are so blindly claiming bias against German planes completely disqualifies you. What, no mention that the 109G2 was modeled around 500 kilos too light? Again, if you were getting shot down in 190s, it's because of low skill. I RARELY flew it, but on occasion did to asses my enemies. I would get bored to death. Climb to 6k meters, dive, fire one burst while barely aiming, watch my target crumble like balsa and run away easily if anyone got near. Yawn.
It is important to remember that these figures are interpreted by the game engine. Entering all of the right figures doesn't mean that the calculations (approximations used in the flightmodel) will produce the desired results.
It is also important to remember that the 'nominal' figures given for equipment are not necessarily representative of their performance under other conditions.
For example figures given for AAMs are always high altitude & high-launch platform velocity shots.
@Hrimpurstala I understand your point. However the Russian krates in IL2 have way higher numbers in HP and features. Some crates even two to three times their actual HP. And for no way this is to be justifiied by an engine that implements the numbers different. It is clear that the Russian planes are supposed to outperform the others.
Regarding my point: Some of the Russian designs are made out of wood. When it comes to damage from cannon rounds wooden fuselages are much more durable. However, you may be correct - I'll have to look at the files myself.
You've created a great mystery: Why don't the Russian planes outperform the others? My impression is that it is easier to fly for blue than for red.
Anyway, it is very nice to see some old-school luftwhining.
@Hrimpurstala How come that many of the top AMI planes fly that poor? How come that the i-16 is almost like a rocket?
How come that when the La-7 or the Yak-3 appear they outclass any of the enemy crates.
Sometimes I have to laugh that when I am flying my G6 in the Wings Over Citadel expansion that I have extreme problems keeping up with the La-5 planes. I have to put myself in an extreme advantage position before engaging. But when I get surprised. Ooh my!!
Didn't really want an argument. I was just saying I don't find it that hard to take down Russian planes (even without the Mk108).
Of course... now that you mention it, the La-5FN was much faster than the G-6 at low altitude and slightly faster overall. It also climbed well near the deck.
So, I don't see what is incorrect here - just change the config.ini settings to make the enemy AI worse in the dynamic campaigns... Good luck with your campaign btw. ;) :D :D :D :D
"Indeed by 1944 a general directive had gone out to Luftwaffe units on the Eastern Front to "avoid combat below 5,000 m with Yakovlev fighters lacking an oil cooler under the nose". To show what thje Yak-3 could do when bravely handled, despite its armament - which was trivial compared with that of the German fighters - on 14th July 1944 a force of 18 met 30 Luftwaffe fighters and destroyed 15 for the loss of one Yak-3.
@Hrimpurstala guys like you never ever get it. i fly since 10 yrs il2,my comrade changed to red once,he got 3 average kills per mission in onlinewar,leading the board soon. You red suckers just pull stick and/or climbturn away.biggest jokes : mustang survives mk108,la5 is after looping faster than me109 WITHOUT looping,energyloss of red planes is a joke,not to mention green laser guns,tank rata etc etc...anyway i ll never fly red.blue needs skill and teamplay,red needs pull stick.
Cannon reliant Wimp ;) (both you and the La-7 guy)
A real chevalier flies a Mig-3 into 1942 - It takes an average of five runs to take out a BF-109 and a single round into your fuel tank will make you explode. At least your opponents knows that they have been beaten welll before being shot down rather than after. In addition it isn't great as a gun platform, can't dive, and bleeds speed in turns.
The Mig-3ud might have some strengths in 1941, but not in 1942. ;)
@wilhelmspw What a load of moronic rubbish. It comes down to the pilot's skill, and which type of fighting best suits him. Maybe your "friend" just took to some of the allied planes better. So, why don't you get in a P40, and I'll get in a FW190 and proceed to shoot you down 9 or 10 times. Sound like fun?
@tankeriv There is no 'hp' in IL2. The real Russian planes were in general faster down low than the German and Western Allied planes, which were much faster up high 6000+metres. Guess where most of the fighiting takes place in IL2? below 4000metres, hence Russian planes are at least as good, often faster.
im confused. thought it came out already on xbox and ps3? which i thought was absolute crap in regards to how good the the original was on pc, is there another release set for the pc?
@normannobrot That game they call IL2 on the Xbox is not even made by the same people and has nothing to do with IL2 Sturmovik. Storm of war however is made by the guys that made IL2 sturmovik and it is going to blow that wanna be arcade game out of the water.
@Master7770 I've got the PS3 version of birds of prey and I gotta say , I dont like it . I get so bored with the arcade level that I can't unlock the sim part .
Thats just the name of the series..like a franchise.. you see mcdonalds in the middle east dont you?
skintrade 6 months ago
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Griffmeister423 6 months ago
@Griffmeister423 where the hell do you see russian planes?
doenerbudenking 6 months ago
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The only thing thats better in C.O.D. is the cockpit and ground!
The rest of it isn't even close to 1946!
EPIC FAIL!
cjs0071 9 months ago
@cjs0071
Get out
DesolateGrunt 9 months ago
@DesolateGrunt Kind of have to agree with cjs0071 there... 1946 has been worked on for like 10 years. There's no way Cliffs of Dover stands up to 1946's massive modding community as well as the quantity of flyable planes. Last I heard there's no dynamic campaign for Cliffs of Dover either, which is a *huge* downside.
The new cockpits and stuff are nice though.
fallenangei 9 months ago
@fallenangei A game released months ago is supposed to compete with 1946's in terms of modding? Give it a chance mate.
FloatingOnAZephyr 7 months ago
@FloatingOnAZephyr well, that's why I said "kind of"
we'll see if this manages to stick
fallenangei 7 months ago
разочарование разочарований
fail of the fails.
i'm going to play some more il-2 lol)
player1diao 10 months ago
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"No idea, but I'm guessing Quad core and a ati 5850+ or nvidia 460 onwards
sod16 5 days ago ".........
Well guess again! It runs perfectly well on a 2.8 core2 and an nVidia GTX8800
jon157uk 11 months ago
video sucks...
MrFunnyJackass 11 months ago
No idea, but I'm guessing Quad core and a ati 5850+ or nvidia 460 onwards
sod16 11 months ago
i cant imagine how much you would have to spend on a pc to run this ):
pedal2th3metal 1 year ago
@pedal2th3metal build it and not much.
sod16 11 months ago
is it CPU hungry, or does it run pretty smooth?
pedal2th3metal 11 months ago
nice to see the Dornier 215 though :) cant think of many battle of britain sims that involve it
ooogaboooga172 1 year ago
is storm of war il2-sturmovik cliffs of dove?
XSmasher4ya 1 year ago
@XSmasher4ya Yes!
royraiden 1 year ago
@XSmasher4ya
Yes. The name was changed from Storm of War to Cliffs of Dover.
knightflyte 1 year ago
I can`t believe I`ve gone through 3 large upgrades over 5 years waiting for this thing to be completed. I get the feeling that I`ll probably never see it come out.
seafireliv 1 year ago 2
@seafireliv SoW:BoB-Forever
MadIgor1 1 year ago
@seafireliv
Its coming out baby, 25th of March confirmed!
zauii89 1 year ago
Hmm hope they will do a little work with the planes - so that they dont look so clean and computeranimared
flemmong 1 year ago
@flemmong When I worked in IT, I had a theory. The theory stated that, if you gave users a box, told them thatthe box was God and that it would do anything they asked, their first comment would be that it was the wrong colour!!! Only very few years ago, this level of graphic would have been hailed as superb for STILL shots; a few years before that it would have been regarded as science fiction. Why the hell to people have to whinge and criticise soomething that, though wonderful, is unfinished.
schragemusik 1 year ago
@schragemusik yes you are right - but I wasnt complaining.
flemmong 1 year ago
@flemmong My mistake then. Apologies, sir.
schragemusik 1 year ago
@flemmong
I'm not sure if this is still planned, but there is supposed to be a weathering effect that increases over time on a plane. The more you fly the more dirt, and chipping appears on the skins.
On top of that, there's a robust community that will be creating skins from the get go.
knightflyte 1 year ago
@knightflyte
There is weathering effects yes, if its dynamic i dont know but i bet it is since they've got the whole thing implemented. At the start of a mission you can actually choose both visual and physical weathering if you want. Like i said how it works in realtime as you fly i dunno but i bet Oleg has it under control :D
zauii89 1 year ago
*Sigh* I wanna get this game, but my PC might simply explode when I try to do anything in mission builder. It has trouble running the one in 1946, even though the rest of the game runs perfectly on high graphics. EVEN THOUGH IT IS A DELL XPS-8000.
Tabby266 1 year ago
like oleg has said in the past.. its not always the plane that is to blame, maybe you should look on how you are flying as a pilot.
MDwildWeasel 1 year ago
Nice visuals
ThaFunkster100 1 year ago
Very impressing.
Very nice!
I only pray that its flight models will not be anti German like IL2 was.
That was a laugh in terms of neutrality.
Wherein the German kites where brought down with only one bullet.
tankeriv 1 year ago
@tankeriv Poor pilots blame the equipment. If you were getting shot down easily in 109s, then you are just a poor pilot. If you were getting shot down AT ALL in 190s, it's more likely you're just a complete moron.
HayateAce 1 year ago
@HayateAce Well mr HayateAce, it looks like you are one of the idiots that follow the Oleg Fanclub.
In the IL2 engine the FW190 has a very poor damage model and an even worse flight model.
I where able to have a sneak peak into the engine. And I saw the number of HP´s given to the FW190 that was incredibly low. And to a couple of Russian crates a number of HP´s that was way too high.
That thus so far concludes the fact about the IL2 engine.
tankeriv 1 year ago
@tankeriv Blah, blah. The fact that you are so blindly claiming bias against German planes completely disqualifies you. What, no mention that the 109G2 was modeled around 500 kilos too light? Again, if you were getting shot down in 190s, it's because of low skill. I RARELY flew it, but on occasion did to asses my enemies. I would get bored to death. Climb to 6k meters, dive, fire one burst while barely aiming, watch my target crumble like balsa and run away easily if anyone got near. Yawn.
HayateAce 1 year ago
@HayateAce Are you just that stupid or what????
Its guns are modelled very well.
But the FW190 wasn't a high altitude fighter. It entered British aerospace at very low altitude and made swift and deadly kills.
But it never used the boom and zoom tactics in an only way to achieve success. It was in fact a very good turn fighter. Turn and roll.
It did very well.
tankeriv 1 year ago
@HayateAce But to get back on topic.
I have compared the IL2 data files. The files IL2 uses for its flight models.
And like I said. What do you not understand in the phrase: The figures the IL2 files have do not match with reality.
What is that hard to understand? It isn't that hard to see that if the FW190 has about 700HP too less it doesn't perform that well.
tankeriv 1 year ago
@tankeriv
It is important to remember that these figures are interpreted by the game engine. Entering all of the right figures doesn't mean that the calculations (approximations used in the flightmodel) will produce the desired results.
It is also important to remember that the 'nominal' figures given for equipment are not necessarily representative of their performance under other conditions.
For example figures given for AAMs are always high altitude & high-launch platform velocity shots.
Hrimpurstala 1 year ago
@Hrimpurstala I understand your point. However the Russian krates in IL2 have way higher numbers in HP and features. Some crates even two to three times their actual HP. And for no way this is to be justifiied by an engine that implements the numbers different. It is clear that the Russian planes are supposed to outperform the others.
tankeriv 1 year ago
@tankeriv
Regarding my point: Some of the Russian designs are made out of wood. When it comes to damage from cannon rounds wooden fuselages are much more durable. However, you may be correct - I'll have to look at the files myself.
You've created a great mystery: Why don't the Russian planes outperform the others? My impression is that it is easier to fly for blue than for red.
Anyway, it is very nice to see some old-school luftwhining.
I've missed it.
Thanks.
Hrimpurstala 1 year ago
@Hrimpurstala How come that many of the top AMI planes fly that poor? How come that the i-16 is almost like a rocket?
How come that when the La-7 or the Yak-3 appear they outclass any of the enemy crates.
Sometimes I have to laugh that when I am flying my G6 in the Wings Over Citadel expansion that I have extreme problems keeping up with the La-5 planes. I have to put myself in an extreme advantage position before engaging. But when I get surprised. Ooh my!!
tankeriv 1 year ago
@tankeriv
Didn't really want an argument. I was just saying I don't find it that hard to take down Russian planes (even without the Mk108).
Of course... now that you mention it, the La-5FN was much faster than the G-6 at low altitude and slightly faster overall. It also climbed well near the deck.
So, I don't see what is incorrect here - just change the config.ini settings to make the enemy AI worse in the dynamic campaigns... Good luck with your campaign btw. ;) :D :D :D :D
Hrimpurstala 1 year ago
@Hrimpurstala How hard to understand it is that certain figures aren't simply right?
And how hard is it to understand that if you give an aircraft way too many HP vs its real life performance that it might not be correct?
tankeriv 1 year ago
@tankeriv Here's a dose of reality for ya:
"Indeed by 1944 a general directive had gone out to Luftwaffe units on the Eastern Front to "avoid combat below 5,000 m with Yakovlev fighters lacking an oil cooler under the nose". To show what thje Yak-3 could do when bravely handled, despite its armament - which was trivial compared with that of the German fighters - on 14th July 1944 a force of 18 met 30 Luftwaffe fighters and destroyed 15 for the loss of one Yak-3.
HayateAce 1 year ago
@HayateAce source?
god4488 1 year ago
@god4488 Just copy and past a sentence or so into google.
HayateAce 1 year ago
@Hrimpurstala guys like you never ever get it. i fly since 10 yrs il2,my comrade changed to red once,he got 3 average kills per mission in onlinewar,leading the board soon. You red suckers just pull stick and/or climbturn away.biggest jokes : mustang survives mk108,la5 is after looping faster than me109 WITHOUT looping,energyloss of red planes is a joke,not to mention green laser guns,tank rata etc etc...anyway i ll never fly red.blue needs skill and teamplay,red needs pull stick.
wilhelmspw 1 year ago
@wilhelmspw
Cannon reliant Wimp ;) (both you and the La-7 guy)
A real chevalier flies a Mig-3 into 1942 - It takes an average of five runs to take out a BF-109 and a single round into your fuel tank will make you explode. At least your opponents knows that they have been beaten welll before being shot down rather than after. In addition it isn't great as a gun platform, can't dive, and bleeds speed in turns.
The Mig-3ud might have some strengths in 1941, but not in 1942. ;)
Hrimpurstala 1 year ago
@Hrimpurstala AMEN!!!
HayateAce 1 year ago
@wilhelmspw What a load of moronic rubbish. It comes down to the pilot's skill, and which type of fighting best suits him. Maybe your "friend" just took to some of the allied planes better. So, why don't you get in a P40, and I'll get in a FW190 and proceed to shoot you down 9 or 10 times. Sound like fun?
HayateAce 1 year ago
@tankeriv There is no 'hp' in IL2. The real Russian planes were in general faster down low than the German and Western Allied planes, which were much faster up high 6000+metres. Guess where most of the fighiting takes place in IL2? below 4000metres, hence Russian planes are at least as good, often faster.
Xiolablu3 10 months ago
@tankeriv agree!!
jtmedina75 1 year ago
seminal discharge imminent
zackhanscom 1 year ago
Hope it's better than the fail that was WoP
codeXnecro 1 year ago
It will probably be released for Europe in October 2010 and for North America in early 2011.
1Fireskull 1 year ago
When is this finally going to be going out?
MissileMist 1 year ago
thanks for that..very cool. cant wait.
normannobrot 1 year ago
im confused. thought it came out already on xbox and ps3? which i thought was absolute crap in regards to how good the the original was on pc, is there another release set for the pc?
i aint got a clue what there doing...
normannobrot 1 year ago
@normannobrot That game they call IL2 on the Xbox is not even made by the same people and has nothing to do with IL2 Sturmovik. Storm of war however is made by the guys that made IL2 sturmovik and it is going to blow that wanna be arcade game out of the water.
Master7770 1 year ago
@Master7770 I've got the PS3 version of birds of prey and I gotta say , I dont like it . I get so bored with the arcade level that I can't unlock the sim part .
pencon61 1 year ago
Thanks @MexicoFiski
speckfire01 1 year ago
Well if the flight and gunnery realism is anything like IL2....This may just be the best flight sim ever made.
Master7770 1 year ago
Indeed ....When ??? When???
speckfire01 1 year ago
@speckfire01
saw somewhere that it would be around october this year or something
MexicoFiski 1 year ago
when when when?
popol321 1 year ago
Looks great!!
royraiden 1 year ago
This will be the best flight sim ever made!
UUUURRAHHH, 1C!!!!!
selfatrophy 1 year ago
@selfatrophy no, this will be the best sim ever made, maybe even best game ever made, if it ever gets made!
thedrownedworld 1 year ago
Looks better than expected. Lighting is great.
Wurschtie 1 year ago
give us more!!!!
StridingMan 1 year ago
yea, missin' AA :D
th4n4t0s1k 1 year ago
Antialiasing?
kaxhect15 1 year ago
OMG HF IT LOOKS LIKE REAL!!!
AlanWawrzyniak 1 year ago
Awesome! I can't wait to play it ;D
frsv0678 1 year ago
It's not final trancer dumbass, if u check the forums it even said in the description.
zauii89 1 year ago
well the first mods to get out are going to be the tracers
hawker445 1 year ago
Over 8,200 views, and this clip has just been released.
Awsome clip, Thank you to Oleg/team/IC
Endy01 1 year ago
@Endy01 Whoops, I was looking at something at the bottom of the page, it is still over 300 views.
Endy01 1 year ago
omg SOW new comp and i can leave the world
Odwrocony 1 year ago
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Odwrocony 1 year ago
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Odwrocony 1 year ago
Wow, even without the shadows it is great!
gianlucanders 1 year ago
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"опять ил 2"
xDDD
ermak4ever 1 year ago
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ermak4ever 1 year ago
опять ил 2 ,надо бы нововведения какие нибудь в игровом процессе
pavel280488AA 1 year ago
@pavel280488AA
Играйте в танки, будут вам нововведения :D
HappyRogger 1 year ago
Awesome!
ermak4ever 1 year ago