TYT Episode 10-20-09 (Insane Healthcare Denials, White House Weak On Public Option & More)

[The5thNinjaTurtle1]

THE YOUNG TURKS SUCK!!!

[sonofatiger]

THIS WHY I TELL PEOPLE STOP VOTING REPUBICA IF YOU LOVE AMERICA ! ! ! !

[sonofatiger]

The Repubicans are the ones that have the death panles.

[calimar28]

All liberals, you can move to Europe. Please do....go suck off of Germany until it is broke like the rest of Europe. Go ruin another country.

[james7132008]

this country is a fuckin joke!!!! move to europe!

[james7132008]

good fuckin video!!!

[farrojames]

found the full one at krunchd(dot)com/freebietv

[N5DVC]

Turks - You really don't understand how government works, do you - you honestly believe the government will not make these same decisions? Are you aware of Canada and the UK?? At all?

lie 2: "Of course Republicans don't have a plan" They do; it's called HR3400 and it's buried in Committee by the Dems. Do some research (or quit lying)

Budget: The CONSTITUTION requires the Federal gov't to provide 'a common defence", NOT health care, or education, or any other states responsibilities.

[TheR33l]

Understand that the "CONSITUTION" is not supreme law of the universe. It's a great document but you must be absurd to think that it has permanence, if there's a change to make the nation better but it's not defined in the Constitution, who cares? It doesn't make sense.

[CiscoNast]

depends how pure u want to be

[N5DVC]

So who defines what "better" is? Order and submissiveness is better, right? Totalitarian control accomplishes this in a prison, but I'm not to keen on it in a free society.

This country was founded as a response to oppressive, intrusive government interference. These are our principles. Which other's get tossed aside because someone thinks it's better? Speech? Right to fair trial?

So, to answer your question: I care!

[TheR33l]

Alright back up there. Who defines what 'better' is? No one; which is why we have a democracy so the majority can have their way. I love how you compare apples to oranges, and even bring in totalitarianism. Why would anyone in their right mind toss aside speech or the right to a fair trial? No one. This is a democracy.

So again, I ask you, why stick strictly to the constitution while we can exist as a democracy without one?

[N5DVC]

Actually, this is a Republic, not a democracy. But, what the hell, let's change that too! It's really more of a guideline than a rule...

Without limits, mob rules. If I can get a "democratic" 51% vote that all liberals should be tortured and executed, I guess you're OK with that new law then?

Of course that's extreme, but Ahmadinejad was elected by "majority" in a government without our constitution to limit his actions. You seem to think it isn't possible, yet it happens all around us...

[letInMe]

The preamble of the United States Constitution:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Read it closely. Pay special attention to the part about "common defence", and the next 4 words after that.

[calimar28]

@letInMe Ron Paul explained it already. General welfare means federal judges, a sound currency, etc - it doesnt mean SPECIFIC welare, which is what you liberals are talking about.

[pmagrin]

@calimar28 Even Fox News(!) showed Ron Paul he was wrong! The Supreme Court ruled Social Security constitutional under the General Welfare Clause in 1937. Ron Paul claimed it was just a liberal ruling. The Constitution made them the final arbiter of what is or isn't constitutional. If he is a 'strict constitutionalist' he should accept their judgement rather than stick his fingers in his ears and scream it's unconstitutional.

[calimar28]

@pmagrin Bullshit. That supreme court was a bunch of liberal ass panseys who know what "General Wefare" meant (it meant military, mail service etc...not actual welfare), but ruled on it anyway. We are about to change all of this liberal nonsense.

[pmagrin]

@calimar28 That Supreme Court rulings count no matter what. Cardozo's majority opinion in Helvering v Davis 1937 clearly shows the superiority of Hamiliton's reading of the general welfare clause "The conception of the spending power advocated by Hamilton and strongly reinforced by Story has prevailed over that of Madison". It would take a massive change for the Supreme Court to overturn that ruling; it is a not flawed separate but equal ruling. Your other option amend the constitution-unlikely

[sbtech01]

Tad late now.. But i followed that self same story shona was basically a fraud... fuck knows what motivated her to lie...

anyway even it it were true thats one case among millions.

[bubbaclubba22]

This show is not fair and Balanced at all. This guy sticks up for acorn. I can't believe this guy just rips on fox news in almost all of his episodes but never sais anything at all about msnbc at all. He calls out all these conservatives and smears them but never has anything bad at all to say about liberal media. This Guy lives in a world where all Republican Politicians are morons and the Democrats are perfect. This Guy is the biggest hypocrit ever.

[Baddscorpio]

This coming from someone named bubba....lol

O.K.

[TomWDemarco]

He doesn't even say that this show is fair and balanced. It's a liberal show and as such it has a strong liberal bias.

[seismicrob2956]

Ok BUBBA........hahaha.... makes perfect sense

[FEWSTAR006]

If you do not like it why do you watch?

[hansson2000]

youturk is deffintly showing a good point on here :D thnx for the enjoyment

[seismicrob2956]

While I enjoy The Young Turks videos I am very very curious as to why they named themselves after a group who sided with the central powers in WWI. They also slaughtered hundreds of thousands if not millions of Christian Armenians in Turkey in a disgusting Religious and politically motivated genocide. I sincerely hope this is just a coincidence. Does anyone know? Please reply.

[abdighazi]

it wasnt religiously motivated, the young turks were jews like cenq and ana. nothing wrong with that, but dont pretend to be an ex muslim atheist. and ont call yourself after a fascist zionist group. cenq denies the armenian holocaust ever happened, by the way.

[seismicrob2956]

I thought The Young Turks (historical) were muslim?

[abdighazi]

many pretended to be, but they were funded from outside turkey, and had major funding/contact from russian jewish zionists (anti theistic judaism, like Cenq and Ana)

[seismicrob2956]

Well didn't they side with the central powers in WWI?

[seismicrob2956]

Also i appreciate your replies they have been very informative, thank you.

[kurdatheist]

@seismicrob2956

They murdered 1.5 million Armenians..

[boorens18]

LOL thank you I was hoping you were going to say shona holmes....

Shona wasnt denied coverage. She went to a wait list (it was 6 months) to remove a benign cyst. It was non-life threatening medical condition. She instead made exaggerated claims about it being a tumor/neoplasm etc.

Lol I rest my case I guess.

[boorens18]

can you please cite a case.

[boorens18]

uh no...healthcare here in canada is universal. You may get denied from certain coverage extras...but you get basic encompassing healthcare no matter what.

[mad8london247]

40% more likely to die if they do not have insurance in comparison to those who do.

45,000 Americans die per year; due to not having insurance.

I know which health care I'd rather have and it's not the American rich man's healthcare system.

[mad8london247]

@Pissed:

I have not heard of a situation wherein the Canadian health system wanted to kill their patients for being too expensive.

[1000Demons]

CENK: In a sense re: Bush sr. and policy, you're wrong.

You said Bush sr. was against pre-emptive strikes. In fact, he was against AMERICA doing them strikes, but he wasn't against other countries doing pre-emptive strikes FOR America (like Iraq did against Kuwait).

Saddam attacked Kuwait because they were flooding the market with cheap oil at the time,

and of course Bush sr. isn't going to like that, so April Glasspie of Sec. State said "We have no opinion of your fight" or something similar.

[9209classified]

makes a perfect point at 5 minutes in! capitalism is by far the best way to ensure that a nation prospers, but the types of people who make executive decisions for corporations lack the morality to do what´s best for others (for example that Ian guy, or also companies who cut corners on environmentally sound practices, or also the huge bank errors that led to the economic depression). capitalism has got to be kept in check at times.

[weedydeedee]

makes no sense, the government does regulate firemen. and schools...and police....OH GOD NOT SOCIALISM...im shaking in my boots....yes captilism is the only fair way, you know...with the gross inequality and all..

[pillarmusicrocks]

im curious, if by denying a person a breathing machine that they at one time did insure, ends up direclty causing the death of the person, couldnt they sued or tried for murder?

[gunninlinguist]

Yes. Criminally negligent homicide.

[sauceykat]

1 star for stupid full screen ad before video. Sorry but your videos are not worth sitting through an annoying commercial first. I encourage other users to do the same for all vids with full commercials before the video "loads"

[BenjaminBixby]

Great Episode Young Turks! Great insight Bruce B!

[Badangel30]

On the Heath Care Issue aka the Public Option, I here by rename The White House the FLIP FLOP HOUSE!!!!!

Just weak!!!! Why did we have an election again??? Where are all the LEADERS???? Allan Grayson and the guy from New York are the only ones that standout bery clearly on the side of the Citizens!!!

[esd2000]

Finally some criticism of Obama that makes sense and not full of lies and hate. A civil exchange of dialogue.

[BenjaminBixby]

Amen! (no religion)

[NewRemorse]

If Republicans have been bought and so have some Democrats so Obama doesn't have the votes how does Obama put pressure on the Democrats? I'm really asking, what can he do? What does Cenk mean "put pressure on the Democrats"?

All I can hope for is that Obama won't let us down. I trust no one in government but for the first time I will just to be able to say I have. So I'll just trust Obama won't let us down and he has some tactic we can't see.

He made History once I trust he will make it again.

[ClockworkChristmas]

Fucking ad wont load. Fuck this im off to hulu

[david3188col]

If president obama believes that public option is the best possible choice why the hell wont he insists on it? this is bullshit. Right now is the closest we have ever been to having real competition and the Obama administracion missing a golden chance. Honestly what the fuck?

[NewRemorse]

There appears to be people scared shitless by Republicans to the extent that they have protests holding signs wishing Obama's death because they've been lied to by the far right. Republicans are bought but so are some Democrats so Obama doesn't have enough votes. So what is he to do?

[david3188col]

He can grow a pair and play hardball with these damn corporists democrats.

[pooyan6969]

They are ALL paid off by corporations

[OoMASEoO]

9/11 was an inside job

Let's just stay in Afghanistan and Iraq, rebuild their country for them, take out their "terrorists", and in the meanwhile people in our own country can die. That sounds like a great idea.

[ronte246]

agreed.

[OoMASEoO]

opening credits... it's CHEECH, under the 0 !!

[Wesley296]

I don't like how you are under the impression that republican's "fool" people into agreeing with them. People just have different political stances. their is nothing EVIL about them. just people who think differently than you. Often i watch these videos and think "Just because you don't agree with them doesn't make them idiots."

[thetotalvidwatcher]

ROLAND BURRIS???? WOOT!!!! I am an Illinois citizen and I hate him. But, I can totally back him now.

[xp720]

progrissive? politics? CAR INSERANCE!!!??? WTH IS GOING ON!!!???

[amp1616]

i hate suspense!!

[AverageAdam]

I may be progressive when it comes to politics, but not car insurance.

[djzacmaniac]

Hilarious!!!!

[alanshanelewis]

hahahaha well said

[BlakesMercury]

u guys are so fuked over

[shinyhalo]

This is one problem with Capitalism. Obviously true Socialism also has problems. The masses need something in between the two, limiting both profits, but also limiting social benefits. Something like guaranteeing people the very basics for survival [simple food, shelter], banning foreign imports to bring back manufacturing jobs, and a tax rate that increases exponentially instead of linearly.

[Ex0dus111]

sounds pretty much exactly like the country I live in... but then I live in Europe.

[seancuk23]

You have a sick health care system is the US, never known such a cold hearted country! You put money before people!

[invisiblebears]

Money is our God.

[StuartGladney]

duh, otherwise people would take our money! <---- Sarcasm

[personalperspective]

Totally agree - the blame needs to go squarely on insurance companies and corrupt amoral politicians. They put money before people. The Citizens in polls are overwhelmingly for the public option when they are made aware of what it actually consists of. If ever there was a case of strike back it would be for the US Voters on corrupt politicians - including Obama if he doesn't begin to lift more than a finger to show he's serious about the public option.

[StarsShadow]

Why would you make such a generalized comment like that? Obviously, not every American is money-hungry nor are they cold-hearted. Even in Canada (where I live) there exist people, political groups, and obviously insurance companies who would love to privatize our health-care system. It's the fact that they've, and I use this term loosely, allowed their goverment and insurance companies get away with murder.

[seancuk23]

I know not every American is like that but that is the general opinion Americans seem to give off, esspecially when you guys slate our National Health Service in the UK as Socialistic which it is not its just ethical and the right thing to do and I would like to add that our healthcare has now overtaken the US in terms of surival rates even though we are a smaller country people just live longer here, something is seriously wrong in America you have to admit that at least!

[modemmack]

Usually when somebody vilifies their opponents, in this case health insurance, it's a gross caricature. In this case, it's shockingly on the money. That their are Americans that are so heinous that they would let you die to buy another yacht.

[themanwhoknew]

Maybe the opponents just don't want medical treatment.

You have no idea how great is feels when you walk into a hospital and you're not worried about whether or not you're covered or if you have your card or if an operation is going to cost too much.

[AlbanZap]

people should buy insurance on their insurance.

[modemmack]

That's what Aflac is for. Seriously.

[takomaguy]

I love the TYT, but if I have to listen to another fuggin chimney sweep ad, I'll go postal!

[Yabbablabba]

If you have firefox browser you can install adblock plus as an add-on. You'll never see another one again.

[MaryJesusJoseph]

I am surprised David Gregory is even asking these questions.

[takomaguy]

NBC, is owned by GE. Gregory pulls a check from GE. GE is a major GOP funder. I think you see what's going on...

[JuanLMFAO]

yeah, 30 rock is awesome!

XD

:-P

[0n3m4n4rm33]

Insurance is fucking stupid (at least car insurance), I had a 01 civic that was in mint condition and I payed 735 dollars a year in insurance. Someone did a hit and run on me and my insurance company payed me 5000 dollars and kept the car. Over nine years, I've payed 6600 dollars in insurance and would have continued to pay it if the car hadn't been destroyed. If I put that money in the bank instead and only payed my self five grand, I would still have the car, the interest and 1600 dollars...

[AlbanZap]

yes, but imagine what would happen if got that hit and run after 3 months of saving money in the bank...

[modemmack]

That's some pretty dim bulb logic. The thing is... you could have totaled your car the day to bought insurance for it. Your acting though somehow you could know the future. Hindsight is 20/20. Plus if you crashed into a Lamborghini would you have the cash to cover the repairs?

Imagine how many people who would be totally ruined he they didn't have car insurance.

[0n3m4n4rm33]

I didn't wreck into anything. Someone hit my car and took off.

As for your Lamborghini scenario, I could have just had liability and that would have covered it (at 80 dollars a year). This was implied in my comment as it is the law to have car insurance. And again, your position that people would be ruined if they didn't have car insurance; liability would suffice for everyone. If losing a car ruins you, then you couldn't afford it anyway (I speak of the average owner, not Mr Laborghini).

[1cousteau]

OMG!! What is wrong with these people who don't want a public option! What are they doing? Thanks, Cenk, you rock for calling these toolboxes out!

[GretchenDawntreader]

Guardian health insurance...see this is the point in the movie script in my head when the people show up with torches and level their headquarters until there isn't a single brick stacked on top of another brick.

Fortunately this isn't Mad Max and there is the rule of law. But really, you reveal memos that consider very ill covered people to be disposable, let alone dismissible with flip terms like it's funny, people should be in prison.

[DemonicGemini]

god damn google ad's fuck te chimney sweep

[bevon17]

I swear people have known about this for years.

This is like the Rodney king beating.

Its not surprising that its going on, as much as its surprising to see it on TV and finally in the light!

[GuyTM]

Yeah, they don't want it. they were lying. that's what politicians do.

[EdugeBDroN]

U want to see a Death Panel go to an insurance company board meeting

[kc375]

The President just needs to stick to the Public Option and stop all this madness. The majority of Americans are for it. I'm a very disappointed in Pres. Obama right now. He needs to listen to the Public.

[alephgideon]

candiceevans1...you said..."the government doesnt need to regulate fireman or healthcare"!? Fireman ARE regulated by the gov. fireman, cops etc ARE regulated. they are NOT private companies. Obama wants to GIVE YOU healthcare. The healthcare industry is trying to DENY YOU healthcare. If you can't figure this out then let Darwinian evolution take place!

[Ex0dus111]

Any elected official that allows an atrocity like that to happen is committing political suicide, a corporate leader wouldn't even care, in fact for him its good for business.

That makes all the difference.

[sage0857]

It's a proven fact that all RepubliCUNTs suck donkey dicks.

[bevon17]

lol

RepubliCUNTs

Win!

[MPGfanatic]

that guys an idiot, how the fuck do these dumbasses get into office?

[mjmanning123]

STOP With 9/11! It's a tired point and it doesn't hold any water you dinosaur!

[facelesshorseman]

I feel like I'm in the Union army before Lincoln shook up the Generals in the field, except McClellan is president.

[onlyrey]

Wow, Sen. Kyl is not even in touch with reality.... What Grayson said is true... he said "more people die a month than died in 9/11"... I guess he divided 45,000 (Harvard study) by 12 = 3,750 people die per month because of lack of care in the US. The way Grayson said it did not sound disrespectful at all; but his point does put things in perspective.

[TipoftheSlung]

Whenever i hear anything about the heathcare debate in the US i feel really smug that i live in the UK and have the NHS.

[AGhostlyCalm]

I have a feeling insurance companies are gonna be blown the fuck up. lol

[amdura]

america is rich - far richer than any EU nation with free-ish healthcare. it's just that the riches are in the hands of a few and those few don't have any plans to share.

A government by the rich, for the rich. They don't call it corp. america for nothing.

[mayaluvsmusic]

Ana +1

[MidwestWPWW]

damn thats brutal. hang in there Ian.

[GLITCHERdotNET]

I just want to see republicans and democrats done away with and have a unified leadership. They can still disagree but damn come on!! Don't take sides with one just because your one of them and must follow suit!! Thats so FU**ING RIDICULOUS!

[westaux999]

ok, i've endured it lately, but i'm fucking sick of the 'flashing' when tyt wants to make a point: go to 12:29, screen flashes black, co- incidence?

no, it's re enforcing a point to grab you attention. anyone that reads this, just check it out, it happens on some of the videos, but not all. reply if you see the same thing.

i love tyt, so i'm not going to threaten un- subscribing or anything but, shit, i watch this show to get away from tv shows... who do this ALL THE TIME..

[MartinezCowboys1]

I'm pretty sure that thing at 12:29 is where the thumbnail picture is from.

[Trinnztubefun]

Change I can count on? 5% change I can count on one hand :(

[Lacosanostra699]

Who would have thought a black guy with no balls.

[OccamsView]

I hope the public option will be available for all folks, not just a select demographic.

[mayaluvsmusic]

it's not going to be available to anyone

[TAz69x]

The first five minutes of this episode underlines the inherent idiocy of NOT having a national Healthcare plan in action.

If you want to get the support of the idiots, call it the "American Healthcare Plan". They seem to get a boner over anything with nationalist sentiments ingrained into it.

If they don't want it, let's privatize gas, power, water, and follow Argentina's route. lol, then we'll watch people in the dark try to type about the evils of government regulation.

[retroserval]

This so true

[MetalManDan7]

America is evil to the fucking core. greed and coruption are ubiquitous.

[NylaRossini]

I totaly agree with you, the collective selfishness is just sickening!

[xadam2dudex]

those running the country are and the nuts that follow Rush Limburger are

[Xpierd]

this is long

[imover18gotityube]

The whole show is 3+ hours

[Scarpsad]

First

Anna looks so hot

Glen Beck sucks

Wasekda

There Trolls it's out of the way, now you can say new things like Friction00815 should go back to reading his Klingon Dictionary instead of posting hate on TYT vids...

[TheDuckofLaw]

It's time for TYT!

[ChristinaWatkinson]

the create your cartoon thing is really weird why do these ads think i will go to their site lol

[kazooga1234]

yay no comercails cept for the first 1