wtf these ppl are bad acters.!! missionaries have tags and arent so rude. we may be against it dont mean we are asses about. get you damn facts straight people.!!!
@threebl9mice Well you are laughing at truth and what the Mormon Church CULT has done. Calling yourself a religion is not a get-out-of-jail free card to exonerate you from your own hateful actions.
ok ok hold it thats so not true we dont do that nock the prapaganda off thats mean and crule i know you have the right to an opinan but think how your macking us feel you dislike us so much that you have to do this come on and grow up what did we ever truly do to you
I wanted 2 kill myself for a few resons part because im gay but im not im goin 2 b as gay as can b im goin 2 suck as many dicks as I want and let it b known so fuk u if u dont like it its my mouth and I do wat I want with it and my asshole 2 peace and love u all hugs nd kisses
You have to ask yourself why people with the Gay Metal Disorder want to be married!
If you are gay simply live together..problem solved, BUT..no they want to rights to adopt children and make society accept the disorder as a natural way to be.
Children have been sexually abused by gays. Do you want Paedophiles/Gays adopting children?
Do you want men or women to be dishonored because two men or two women enstill in Children the opposite sex has nothing to offer the Child?
@idaman12345 Because I don't have a political agenda to do so. I use logic and science to see clear the obvious.
People who sexually abuse children are not straight.
Gay-couples getting 'equal rights' is an oxymoron. What you are asking for is the Slave-Master for a paper certificate to give you status. Marriage is spiritual+chemical bond and can only be had between a man and a women.
@mermaidsareppl222 "98% of child abusers are in fact straight" can't you see the illogic in what you said. They're not straight is they abuse children. Anyone that crosses the lines to perversion is in the wrong, even though they maybe weak or mentally deranged, in self control.
@mermaidsareppl222 "98% of child abusers are in fact straight" where did that fact come from? your ass? or did you just make it up on the spot? You are fucking idiotic every man who abuses a little boy is a homosexual but of course a homosexual being a pervert is nothing new.
@dannyboyinspace the numerous non biased studies is where I got itits obvious you don't know the.meaning of the word pervert, if you did, you wouldn't be calling them that
@mermaidsareppl222 "the numerous non biased studies" haha again more shit coming out of your mouth I can tell just by your writing you are probably 12-14 years old so I'm not even going to waste my time acknowledging you. You have no argument nor evidence my argument is based on fact. A man molesting a boy is a homosexual this is fact as it fits the definition of homosexuality. Now you can fuck off.
@mermaidsareppl222 No i proved you're a cock loving faggot I don't run from anything I look at life realistically homosexuality is disease and there's nothing more to it.
@mermaidsareppl222 The majority of Psychologists and Psychiatrists claimed homosexuality was disease in the past and some still do today. If you don't consider 1 sexual abnormality a disease then none of them are yet as far as I can see every other sexual abnormality besides homosexuality is considered a disease so homosexuality should be as well. Simple.
@mermaidsareppl222 Anything thats not heterosexuality is a sexual abnormality therefore, yes homosexuality is a sexual abnormality hence why it should be considered a disease. The majority of them claim its not a disease purely because they would lose their jobs if they gave their real opinion and I guarantee you the majority still believe its a disease.
@mermaidsareppl222 My proof is on the basis that every sexual abnormality is a disease thus homosexuality is one as well. Where is your proof that it isn't?
@idaman12345 What you're really worried about is locking down a partner with a paper certificate, as you know gays are promiscuous.
People in society are not going to be upset if a gay marriage breaks as it's not real and never will be. A family marriage break up is different as children will suffer from not having both the mother and father there, in the ultimate situation.
@PeekyBooo suffer how? my kids suffered more when I was married cos my husband was a drunken abusive arsehole,how do you know gays are promiscuous cos of something you read or saw on tv or maybe the man who lives down the street? straight men or gay men can be promiscuous and both can be in a long lasting loving relationship.it's funny how ppl like you think they know it all about how gays live their lives.
@AspieEyes I agree with most of what you are saying, but to place children into a gay relationship is another form of abuse. It's not natural and children need normality and safety. It maybe a better situation than another male-female one, but that's not the point. The point is aiming for the best we can do.
"but to place children into a gay relationship is another form of abuse"
Shame on you. Ask the kids that are raised by gay couples -- they grow up fine. All the research has shown this.
And how are kids not safe? The only people they aren't safe from is religious nutjobs.
Who the fuck are you to say no gay can expect their children to respect them? Again, all the research shows you are wrong and the thousands of kids raised by gay and lesbian couples laugh at you.
@cryan71 "Shame on you. Ask the kids that are raised by gay couples -- they grow up fine. All the research has shown this." What like telling a child that a dog humping a cat is normal.
Why don't you worry about your own children, and leave other's alone. Homosexuality has been shown unharmful and not a mental illness since the 1970s.
Ummm, no. The entire American Psychriatic Association and every medical professional organization since then. So everyone who disagrees with you is a pedophile? You must be a hoot to have around.
@PeekyBooo "What like telling a child that a dog humping a cat is normal"
What a typical homophobic scare tactic comment. If you can compare animals humping to two HUMANS committing a loving relationship together then please post, as it would make for some interesting reading Genius.
I suppose you are all for Kim Kardashians 72 day wedding then?? pfft, absurd
2.Legal Marriage = Paper certificate giving pros +cons from Gov.
What people with the gay disorder want, is legal marriage. Now the legal marriage isn't religious, so let them have it, BUT one then needs to ask should a society promote gays getting powers to adopt child. The disorder can be passed on!
@PeekyBooo It isn't a disorder, it can't be passed on and are you honestly saying that having thousand of children stuck in crowded care homes is better than them being adopted by a loving family?
"Marriage is about having babies and creating strong families." anime1973
Actually, babies are born with or without marriage. So your entire argument is based on a false premise. Creating strong families has nothing to do with marriage laws. if such was the case, divorce would be extrememly difficult. And it's strange that the few states that have marriage laws that include same sex couples, have lower divorce rates.
I was once a Mormon and entered the temple twice while unworthy to do so. Funny thing is, Hinkley nor Monson knew about it. Therefore I can conclude that
1) they are not prophets and thus the church is false
It's always heartwarming to see a "rights" organization win the race to the bottom. Claiming that a right is being taken presumes that the right existed in the first place.
Here is what is so stupid about this commercial and the backlash v. the Mormons. They are not the ones that cost you the election. You lost in the Latino community and the black community. I dont see you on here bashing them. Also, the TV commercials (like the one about the little girl saying she could marry a Princess) was paid for by Catholics. I dont seem to recall any gay-rights groups mobbing in front of any Catholic Church. Face it, your targeting the wrong group. Sheeshh.
@gomotigers2000 Except it wasn't the Latinos and blacks who ponied up the cash. Also, lol if you think the lgbt community has comfortable relations with the Catholic Chruch.
@ohmario1882 So what if they raised money...they dont have enough Motmons in California to pull over 50% of the vote. So you are going after a group that contributed less money that the Catholic Church and was the last religious group to be involved. Sorry but again, way too much hostile actions pointed at the wrong group. Again, didnt see the LDBT community outside of any Catholic or Black Churches....hummmmm....
@gomotigers2000 There were a lot of black Churches and I'm part of one which the preacher said vote for prop 8. The thing is all churches were against gay marriage. I'm black and all for it. Cause what's the point. If you believe in God this all comes to an end anyway so always fighting against things is just going against the bible's master plan. makes no sense to me. I'm not for killing but if you're gay you can get married, not in a church cause you don't believe in God.
@IrishFriendsFan Funny thing is they don't see it like that. It's like how the Polish were being treated not even 300 years ago and when you go into their areas they're quick to use a racial slur at me. It's cause once a culture has gotten over a huddle sometimes they forget the pain & struggles they went through and forget it's not cool to put others through the same thing.
@anonymousnamealso and isn't universal even today. Marriage is about having babies and creating strong families. It's a sad fact today that marriages are being illconceived and babies are being born out of wedlock but that doesn't mean that the whole institution needs a remodel by gays that just want to get a bunch of tax breaks intended to help with raising families and other random rights.
@IrishFriendsFan you're assuming the struggle of blacks and gays are the same. many black people would completely disagree. They were considered to be such a lower life form to merit seperate water fountains. You see, gays aren't really discriminated against. They are free to marry those of the other gender too just like the rest of us. The whole case for gay marriage hinges on the idea that marriage is about love. That's an idea that's only existed in the last couple hundred years
who cares? The morman chuch can decide what they want to spend their money one. It isn't their fault the yes on prop 8 won. FACT: More people that were NOT morman voted yes than people that WERE morman so shut up about the morman chuch and let them live in peace will ya?
I would vote for same sex marriage in California, when Commiefornia gets rid of retarded gun laws and give gun owner their rights back! So gun in commiefornia would have to change first before I am pro same sex marriage.
@Kimjira1 Because California is a Giant Hypocritical, Commiefornia is taking away gun owners rights and are not punishing the criminals that are the problem, so basically California is taking away firearm owners right and giving rights to other people. How can you take away current rights and just give rights to people like nothing. If I can't have the right to keep and bear arms in a state of the United States why should I let people have "their rights" when my rights are violated?
TO both sides: You can marry anyone you want with a religious ceremony in your church. Thats legal. The result of prop 8 is that the state will not legally recognize same sex marriages. Thats the law. I disagree with not recognizing those marriages as legal unions, but I also believe that if it is against your religious beliefs you shoudn' be forced to recognize them either.
@sarissaki: "You can marry anyone you want with a religious ceremony in your church. Thats legal."
-- False. You can have a "ceremony" and you can claim that it makes you married or that it makes you King of California for that matter. But you're neither. No legal same-sex marriages have taken place in the 200 California churches and synagogues that used to welcome these unions in the nearly three years since these marriages were banned by the actions of the Mormon Church on Nov. 4, 2008.
prop 8 was passed, this taught me something, California is almost filled with disgusting sick homophobic parasites who hide beneath religion only to insult homosexuals
I'm willing to believe this commercial as fact, considering how the bulk of the Mormon church is based in UTAH and this bill is in CALIFORNIA. Stay in your own goddamn state, or we'll start going after the sister-wives in every household.
@IrishfanofDH haha that is funny because thats not what it does. Marrige is between a man and a women. But its so damn funny I wish we could get rid of all the homos in the world. They are oxygen thieves
@mermaidsareppl222. the lds church is not a cult. you can call it what you want, but i am blessed to know what is right, and that the church is true. if you do have questions and concerns or anything, like i said, just call or text. 8016616209
i feel so bad for those who havent come to know the full blessing of the lds church in their lives. i know with all my heart that it is the true church, and with every breath i take i will testify that this is the true church. it is the only way to return to our Father in Heaven. if anyone has questions about the church, or anything, feel free to call me. 8016616209
@19kooka95 Why is someone with a Utah Area Code commenting on a video about a California ballot measure? Why is our election any of your business?
More to the point, why are other people's marriages and families any of your business? Why would your Church pay money to influence an election in another state? Why would you allow your tithings to go towards harming other people's families and forcing other Churches to abandon their marriage sacraments and obey your so-called "prophet"?
Mormon's don't take away rights (only voters who vote make the decision, not the people who campaign with money to tell their position), don't commit home invasions, don't rummage through lesbians' handbags, don't burn documents, and don't go about the political landscape in a holier-than-thou manner, although the liars who made this video want you to think that they do. But, I have listened to many homosexuals spew their hate toward the Mormons, literally and on the radio/tv.
I find it interesting that when I wanted to make a comment on this one particular video, google reprompted me to include my verification information, which I found strange, so I just allowed the default. Anyway, this commercial is typical propaganda and the filmmaker knows this. The Mormons only donated money to keep the definition of a marriage as that that most all other Christian, Jewish, and Islamic faiths have upheld: between a man and a woman.
@hopeful3412: "The Mormons only donated money to keep the definition of a marriage ..."
-- LOL. Mormons gave buckets of cash for a political campaign to force other churches to obey their marriage doctrine, in violation of the 11th Article of their cultish Faith. Any American church ought to be expecting that these dangerous extremists will next try to tell them who they can and can't baptize.
its funny,,why is that I want to make a comment on supporting prop8 al comments are disabled..But when theres a vote no on prop8 there are comments all over the place?
I see a lot of arguments here but let me make this comment. lets say that same sex marriage becomes law everywhere. What happens if it is against chruch beliefs i.e. mormons, and not recognized by a church, so the church will not perform one, yet in doing so it is not conforming to the letter of the law. You cant say it is the law, but you do not have to follow it. But then, what will protect also the choice of beliefs?
@sarissaki actually, there are still churches today who won't perform interracial marriages. If you're NOT Catholic, a Catholic church will NOT marry you to some one who is or isn't catholic, you have to covert. Discriminatory? Wasn't interracial marriage legalized? And don't we have freedom of religion? Yes, but there is still a separation of church and state, meaning the gov't can't tell all the churches what to do. So just cause the gov't legalizes gay marriage , it can't force churches
@dannytnt86 True. I guess I am weary of fanatics on both sides. Especially gay activists. Because I dont wnat to see them try to make everyone say it is OK
@dannytnt86: "the gov't can't tell all the churches what to do"
-- You're right that gov't can't tell you who you have to marry. But gov't can tell you who you CAN'T marry.
That's what happened to my Episcopal church and to 200 other churches and synagogues throughout California when Prop 8 passed. We used to welcome legal same-sex marriages in our congregation, but now the Mormons have paid for a law that tell us we CANNOT legally allow these marriages any longer.
@JediLDS Yep. Voters passed the law. The Mormon Church just initiated it and paid for the campaign. With lots and lots of money. Now that these extremists have used their massive wealth to order my church who can and cannot be married in it, we're waiting to see if they will next bankroll a "Prop 9" to tell us who we can and can't baptize.
"We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may." --What a total load of shit. And what a pathetic liar the current members of your Church have made of the man who first wrote those words.
@JediLDS: "What does "worshiping Almighty God" have to do with... Joseph Smith?"
-- Ask your bishop. Big hint: the quote is 169 years old.
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"What does "worshiping Almighty God" have to do with prop8?"
Prop 8 forced my church and others to alter our marriage practices to comply with Mormon dogma. Marriage is a sacrament in my church, as it is in many others. As such, it is a part of our worship. You forced us to change that worship, as surely as if you had told us who we can and can't baptize.
@sarissaki It's legal for atheists to marry now. It's legal for Bapists to marry. And Catholics. But do you have to let atheists or Baptists or Catholics marry in your Mormon church or temple now? Of course not. You don't even have to let any of these people enter a temple, much less marry there. So why do you think it's any different if gays marry?
@hanohanonacowboy umm I am not a mormon. But I have a couple of mormon friends and they are very weary of the legalities. It is not about the ceremony alone, but mostly of encounters in everyday life, especially if I want to maintain choices based on beliefs. Agreed, its a very fine line between discrimination and freedom of choice.
@sarissaki: "especially if I want to maintain choices based on beliefs"
-- Well, what do you do now? Unless married gay people are the only folks in the world you have a "belief" about, why can you not simply look ar your everyday life now? There must be other folks on your naughty list. Are you somehow forced to interact with them in a way that you believe violates your "freedom of choice"? If not, then why do you think gay people will have some special power over your "choices"?
@sarissaki Anyhow, if you're truly so afraid of having your "freedom of choice" abridged, take a trip to California or Massachusetts or Washington DC or Massachusetts or Iowa or any of the other places where same-sex marriage is currently legal. Walk down the street and see if someone comes up and keeps you from "maintaining choices based on beliefs". If they do, you can scurry back to wherever you're typing from now and report right here on YouTube exactly how you were violated.
@hanohanonacowboy hello? did you even bother to think before you wrote? Did you ever figured out that I was merely mentioning what my buddies intake was? No wonder they are weary after all...Please, scurry back to your typing hole and think, if you can, before you talk
@sarissaki Here's what you said: " It is not about the ceremony alone, but mostly of encounters in everyday life, especially if I want to maintain choices based on beliefs."
What "choices" do you think you can't "maintain" if same-sex couples have the legal right to marry? The fact is that your neighbors' marriages are none of your business.
I guess being religious I am retarded. Gay people choose also, they choose to act upon their desires. I think a desire is a choice. Too bad they go against nature when acting upon their desires. Obviously then, gay people are retarded also. I guess I am lower than a retarded gay non believer.
Let's talk about discrimination. I see gay people discriminating against LDS people by showing untruths in this video. Fact, the Mormon Church did not spend money on the amendment. Fact, the members of the church donated money for the amendment to protect the meaning of marriage. We all have our freedom to choose, we don't have to accept everything people want to do. Fact, if you believe in God and the bible, homosexuality is not in accordance with scripture so no to gay marriage.
@tdman56 Ya but it's OK to discriminate against mormon, christians and muslims because they chose their beliefs. And the beliefs they chose are stupid. You can't discriminate on race or gender or sexual preference because you don't choose that. However religious people don't have the same rights as the rest of us because they're all retarded and therefore lower then us non believers.
@tdman56: "the Mormon Church did not spend money on the amendment"
-- False. The Church itself reported its donations of tax-exempt church funds on its form 461 "Major Donor Campaign Statement", on file with our CA Secretary of State. The LDS Church is also the only church in 161 years of California history to be fined by the state for breaking our election laws and failing to report some of its donations until AFTER the elections, so voters could not know who was behind this ballot measure.
@mesa176750: "Most of the money was raised by various churches, not just the mormon community."
-- False. Most of the money came from individuals, very little from churches. Between 55% and 75% came from individual Mormons. The exact percentage can't be known because the religious affiliation of many smaller donors is not known. It's probably even higher than those figures, given the oddly large number of Utah addresses of donors to this ballot measure two states away.
@hanohanonacowboy "Various churches"= other religions. Mormons were not the highest contributors to this prop. Look that up, because it is known. Yet most people bash the mormons for it.
@mesa176750 Well, yes, Mormons were in fact not only the highest contributors, but they contributed more than ALL other donors combined.
If you're ashamed of Mormons' actions here, I can certainly understand it. But if you are not ashamed, then why do you feel the need to hide behind other churches?
@mesa176750: " "Various churches"= other religions."
-- Actually, individual Catholics and Protestants and Jews and Mormons supported BOTH sides of Prop 8. But no other religious denomination but the LDS gave money to this political measure. None.
Sure, Democrats don't want the Church taking over. The same liberals who slander Christianity support radical Islam and want to replace the COnstitution with Sharia Law. Ironically, the same liberals who claim to be champions of gay rights support the radical Muslim groups who kill gays.
I think it's time the government starts doing whats right regardless of what their told, instead of doing what their told regardless of what's right.
Because of bs like this, we are slowly becoming a theocratic government, run by close-minded fools. Not every mormon is like this, hell, not everyone with a religion is like this, thank god. But it's the extemist that go so far to strip other people of their rights that are the true face of ignorance.
the mormon church put $20 million dollars into the prop 8 campaign?!!?? do you realize how much that money could have HELPED people if used differently? who puts $20 million dollars into limiting people with their lifestyle choices, seriously...
@StoogeWatcher: "And how much did the Democratic Party pump into the gay rights movement?"
-- Not much. And to my knowledge no Party money went to oppose Prop 8, the subject of this video.
But of the money the Democratic Party or ANY donor gave to Prop 8, every penny came from someone who had paid tax on it. Unlike the LDS Church, which donated funds with a religious tax exemption that tax-paying citizens have to take up the slack on, money that other churches use to help the needy.
to be fair, it wasnt mainly the mormons, 70% of black protestants voted for prop 8 and it had alot of support from the catholic "aids is not as bad as using condoms and raping alter boys" church
@silkfedora But that's what they DID! Suspend you disbelief just for a moment; this is a metaphor, over the top, etc: true. But, it is exactly what you did to people emotionally, figuratively, what have you! It is just plain scary that anyone could see this and not at least think twice.
How is it that right wingers think they should be able to say, "I don't want this for my self, so no one can have it. Period." WTF?? Doesn't it bother you people that this is how every one sees you?
wow, really guys? That was hysterical and I'm a mormon. That was SO outlandish and over-dramaticized that how could anyone take that seriously? LOL, wow, yup, we mormons will just come bursting into your house and snatching up your marriage licenses and your wedding rings >.<
Until the homosexual community embraces who they really are, instead of trying to emulate the lives of heterosexual individuals, they will never find peace or happiness.
Case in point, no lesbian couple looks like the two women in this video. Most are chubby, short, and have either a "butch-buzz" or frosted spiky short hair.
@JavierCA2008 What a dumb and bigoted statement. I've known plenty of lesbian couples who looked "normal" and who were no different from the couple in this video. There is no single type of lesbian couple. Grow up.
@JavierCA2008 oh fuck you, you dont know anything about how people look. for all we know, those two could be lesbians, and you are just too intolerant to use your brain, stop blindly following your church, listen to reason, the church is no longer the ruling power BITCH.
being an exmormon i can tell you that their religion teaches them to dislike homosexuals. i was a mormon missionary and taught people to disagree with same-sex marriage (how i regret that =C). they treat it as an addiction and an "unnatural evil to God". If it were so unnatural... why the hell did God allow several species in the animal kingdom to have gay tendencies? im atheist but... if god exists. surely he wouldnt contradict himself? HA! the irony...
@xibalba91 Your story is so sad. I am a Latter Day Saint and I have never hated gay people, nor have I ever heard it told in my Church to dislike them. Because you don't think a lifestyle is right doesn't mean you don't like the people, or care about them. We are not frogs that can change from male to female at will. We are human beings with a spirit and a body. We have been commanded to populate the earth and that would be impossible if everyone were gay, or even the majority.
Not all mormons are like this... I Know loads of mormons that have gay friends and would not discriminate like this.
This is like saying "muslims bombed the wtc so now every muslim is evil" Its not true.
Its just immature and irrelevant.
Pick on mormons about "disliking the idea of same sex marrige\2 but isnt that what the bible also teaches... Think people !!!!
JosephDanielPugh 4 days ago
wtf these ppl are bad acters.!! missionaries have tags and arent so rude. we may be against it dont mean we are asses about. get you damn facts straight people.!!!
danielle12cortes 6 days ago
Joseph Smith was called a 'profit', dum dum dum dum dumb...
lowcomedy 1 week ago 2
Magic underpants!
LOL.
EmeraldView 1 week ago
If we let churches ban gay marriage, what's next? Masturbation? R-rated movies? Fun?
If we let churches ban gay marriage, our children will become confused. "What's government for? What is equality? I'm confused."
fuggimotto 2 weeks ago 3
That's THE stupidest video I have EVER seen! I'm going to laugh all day at its idocity! Thank you for that! mwa ha ha ha1
threebl9mice 1 month ago
@threebl9mice Well you are laughing at truth and what the Mormon Church CULT has done. Calling yourself a religion is not a get-out-of-jail free card to exonerate you from your own hateful actions.
fitasafiddle123 1 week ago
Lol @ the Mormon douchebags still whining that their stupid law was overturned
scarshapedstar 1 month ago 3
ok ok hold it thats so not true we dont do that nock the prapaganda off thats mean and crule i know you have the right to an opinan but think how your macking us feel you dislike us so much that you have to do this come on and grow up what did we ever truly do to you
tigergirl500 1 month ago
ok, i believe in same sex marriage, but i think its wrong to bring down a religeon
donnamillers 1 month ago
I wanted 2 kill myself for a few resons part because im gay but im not im goin 2 b as gay as can b im goin 2 suck as many dicks as I want and let it b known so fuk u if u dont like it its my mouth and I do wat I want with it and my asshole 2 peace and love u all hugs nd kisses
MrKiko1920 1 month ago
Am I the only one that noticed that he tore the paper perfectly? Lol
bobbyh0716 2 months ago 3
@bobbyh0716
It's as if it was meant to be torn apart!
empshok 1 month ago
this video is unfair. not all mormons act this way. dont beleive something is true just because it's in a commercial
glasshero11 2 months ago
You have to ask yourself why people with the Gay Metal Disorder want to be married!
If you are gay simply live together..problem solved, BUT..no they want to rights to adopt children and make society accept the disorder as a natural way to be.
Children have been sexually abused by gays. Do you want Paedophiles/Gays adopting children?
Do you want men or women to be dishonored because two men or two women enstill in Children the opposite sex has nothing to offer the Child?
RU Morally Corrupt?
PeekyBooo 2 months ago
@PeekyBooo shut up u should here yourself, some kids are sexualy abbused by straight ppl as well, being gay does not make u a paedophile
flkidsvids 2 months ago
@PeekyBooo heres a question for you
what makes you more educated then the psychiatrists in claiming that homosexuality is a mental disorder?
children have been sexually abused by straight people too, 98% of pedophiles are straight, so should we allow pedophiles/straights adopting children?
do you honestly believe that men/women will be dishonored when gay couples get equal rights?
no im not morally corrupt, since i side with those who are looking for equal rights, and not on your side
idaman12345 2 months ago
@idaman12345 Because I don't have a political agenda to do so. I use logic and science to see clear the obvious.
People who sexually abuse children are not straight.
Gay-couples getting 'equal rights' is an oxymoron. What you are asking for is the Slave-Master for a paper certificate to give you status. Marriage is spiritual+chemical bond and can only be had between a man and a women.
PeekyBooo 2 months ago
@PeekyBooo 98% of child abusers are in fact straight
You clearly do have an agenda (political or otherwise)
You just done want your sickness of homophobia to be wrong
mermaidsareppl222 1 week ago
@mermaidsareppl222 "98% of child abusers are in fact straight" can't you see the illogic in what you said. They're not straight is they abuse children. Anyone that crosses the lines to perversion is in the wrong, even though they maybe weak or mentally deranged, in self control.
PeekyBooo 1 week ago
@PeekyBooo Actually age is irrelevant in the definition of heterosexuality and homosexuality so everyone who abuses children is one of the the two.
dannyboyinspace 5 days ago
@mermaidsareppl222 "98% of child abusers are in fact straight" where did that fact come from? your ass? or did you just make it up on the spot? You are fucking idiotic every man who abuses a little boy is a homosexual but of course a homosexual being a pervert is nothing new.
dannyboyinspace 5 days ago
@dannyboyinspace the numerous non biased studies is where I got itits obvious you don't know the.meaning of the word pervert, if you did, you wouldn't be calling them that
not gay or a pedophile
mermaidsareppl222 5 days ago
@mermaidsareppl222 "the numerous non biased studies" haha again more shit coming out of your mouth I can tell just by your writing you are probably 12-14 years old so I'm not even going to waste my time acknowledging you. You have no argument nor evidence my argument is based on fact. A man molesting a boy is a homosexual this is fact as it fits the definition of homosexuality. Now you can fuck off.
dannyboyinspace 5 days ago
@dannyboyinspace thanks for proving im right with the childish insults
now run from the truth like a typical homophobe
mermaidsareppl222 5 days ago
@mermaidsareppl222 No i proved you're a cock loving faggot I don't run from anything I look at life realistically homosexuality is disease and there's nothing more to it.
dannyboyinspace 4 days ago
@dannyboyinspace funny how can you prove something that isnt true?
so tell me what makes you smarter than every doctor in the world?
i mean you have to be to claim homosexuality is a disease, and they know the truth
mermaidsareppl222 4 days ago
@mermaidsareppl222 The majority of Psychologists and Psychiatrists claimed homosexuality was disease in the past and some still do today. If you don't consider 1 sexual abnormality a disease then none of them are yet as far as I can see every other sexual abnormality besides homosexuality is considered a disease so homosexuality should be as well. Simple.
dannyboyinspace 3 days ago
@dannyboyinspace yet now a days a majority of them know the truth now a days
homosexuality is not a sexual abnormality, so then your "theory" is incorrect
mermaidsareppl222 3 days ago
@mermaidsareppl222 Anything thats not heterosexuality is a sexual abnormality therefore, yes homosexuality is a sexual abnormality hence why it should be considered a disease. The majority of them claim its not a disease purely because they would lose their jobs if they gave their real opinion and I guarantee you the majority still believe its a disease.
dannyboyinspace 1 day ago
@dannyboyinspace really would love to see you prove that
mermaidsareppl222 1 day ago
@mermaidsareppl222 My proof is on the basis that every sexual abnormality is a disease thus homosexuality is one as well. Where is your proof that it isn't?
dannyboyinspace 1 day ago
@dannyboyinspace the fact that homosexuality is not an abnormality
mermaidsareppl222 1 day ago
@mermaidsareppl222 Any sexual preference which isn't heterosexuality is an abnormality.
dannyboyinspace 17 hours ago
@idaman12345 What you're really worried about is locking down a partner with a paper certificate, as you know gays are promiscuous.
People in society are not going to be upset if a gay marriage breaks as it's not real and never will be. A family marriage break up is different as children will suffer from not having both the mother and father there, in the ultimate situation.
PeekyBooo 2 months ago
@PeekyBooo suffer how? my kids suffered more when I was married cos my husband was a drunken abusive arsehole,how do you know gays are promiscuous cos of something you read or saw on tv or maybe the man who lives down the street? straight men or gay men can be promiscuous and both can be in a long lasting loving relationship.it's funny how ppl like you think they know it all about how gays live their lives.
AspieEyes 1 month ago
@AspieEyes I agree with most of what you are saying, but to place children into a gay relationship is another form of abuse. It's not natural and children need normality and safety. It maybe a better situation than another male-female one, but that's not the point. The point is aiming for the best we can do.
No gay can expect their children to respect them.
PeekyBooo 1 month ago
@PeekyBooo
"but to place children into a gay relationship is another form of abuse"
Shame on you. Ask the kids that are raised by gay couples -- they grow up fine. All the research has shown this.
And how are kids not safe? The only people they aren't safe from is religious nutjobs.
Who the fuck are you to say no gay can expect their children to respect them? Again, all the research shows you are wrong and the thousands of kids raised by gay and lesbian couples laugh at you.
cryan71 1 month ago 2
@cryan71 "Shame on you. Ask the kids that are raised by gay couples -- they grow up fine. All the research has shown this." What like telling a child that a dog humping a cat is normal.
You're trying to affirm psychosis.
PeekyBooo 1 month ago
@PeekyBooo
Why don't you worry about your own children, and leave other's alone. Homosexuality has been shown unharmful and not a mental illness since the 1970s.
cryan71 1 month ago 3
@cryan71 What by Kinsey? The Paedophile
PeekyBooo 1 month ago
@PeekyBooo
Ummm, no. The entire American Psychriatic Association and every medical professional organization since then. So everyone who disagrees with you is a pedophile? You must be a hoot to have around.
cryan71 1 month ago
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@PeekyBooo "What like telling a child that a dog humping a cat is normal"
What a typical homophobic scare tactic comment. If you can compare animals humping to two HUMANS committing a loving relationship together then please post, as it would make for some interesting reading Genius.
I suppose you are all for Kim Kardashians 72 day wedding then?? pfft, absurd
fitasafiddle123 1 week ago
There is two types of marriage.
1.Spiritual Marriage = Sex between man and women.
2.Legal Marriage = Paper certificate giving pros +cons from Gov.
What people with the gay disorder want, is legal marriage. Now the legal marriage isn't religious, so let them have it, BUT one then needs to ask should a society promote gays getting powers to adopt child. The disorder can be passed on!
PeekyBooo 2 months ago
@PeekyBooo It isn't a disorder, it can't be passed on and are you honestly saying that having thousand of children stuck in crowded care homes is better than them being adopted by a loving family?
IDontTrustSheep 2 months ago
"Marriage is about having babies and creating strong families." anime1973
Actually, babies are born with or without marriage. So your entire argument is based on a false premise. Creating strong families has nothing to do with marriage laws. if such was the case, divorce would be extrememly difficult. And it's strange that the few states that have marriage laws that include same sex couples, have lower divorce rates.
cryan71 2 months ago
FUCK THE MORMONS AND THIER MAGIC UNDERPANTS
rextrek 2 months ago 17
@rextrek why
chadro85 3 weeks ago
@rextrek
I was once a Mormon and entered the temple twice while unworthy to do so. Funny thing is, Hinkley nor Monson knew about it. Therefore I can conclude that
1) they are not prophets and thus the church is false
2) or there is no god
SocraticFox 5 days ago
It's always heartwarming to see a "rights" organization win the race to the bottom. Claiming that a right is being taken presumes that the right existed in the first place.
serafine666 2 months ago
This is a bunch of crap! They DO NOT do that!
12lilily 3 months ago
@12lilily uhhh-huh!
greengirl1234567 3 months ago
Here is what is so stupid about this commercial and the backlash v. the Mormons. They are not the ones that cost you the election. You lost in the Latino community and the black community. I dont see you on here bashing them. Also, the TV commercials (like the one about the little girl saying she could marry a Princess) was paid for by Catholics. I dont seem to recall any gay-rights groups mobbing in front of any Catholic Church. Face it, your targeting the wrong group. Sheeshh.
gomotigers2000 3 months ago
@gomotigers2000 Except it wasn't the Latinos and blacks who ponied up the cash. Also, lol if you think the lgbt community has comfortable relations with the Catholic Chruch.
ohmario1882 3 months ago
@ohmario1882 So what if they raised money...they dont have enough Motmons in California to pull over 50% of the vote. So you are going after a group that contributed less money that the Catholic Church and was the last religious group to be involved. Sorry but again, way too much hostile actions pointed at the wrong group. Again, didnt see the LDBT community outside of any Catholic or Black Churches....hummmmm....
gomotigers2000 3 months ago
@gomotigers2000 There were a lot of black Churches and I'm part of one which the preacher said vote for prop 8. The thing is all churches were against gay marriage. I'm black and all for it. Cause what's the point. If you believe in God this all comes to an end anyway so always fighting against things is just going against the bible's master plan. makes no sense to me. I'm not for killing but if you're gay you can get married, not in a church cause you don't believe in God.
anonymousnamealso 3 months ago
@anonymousnamealso black ppl voting for prop 8 are hypocrites
it wasnt too long ago you were discriminated against
IrishFriendsFan 3 months ago 5
@IrishFriendsFan Funny thing is they don't see it like that. It's like how the Polish were being treated not even 300 years ago and when you go into their areas they're quick to use a racial slur at me. It's cause once a culture has gotten over a huddle sometimes they forget the pain & struggles they went through and forget it's not cool to put others through the same thing.
anonymousnamealso 3 months ago 2
@anonymousnamealso and isn't universal even today. Marriage is about having babies and creating strong families. It's a sad fact today that marriages are being illconceived and babies are being born out of wedlock but that doesn't mean that the whole institution needs a remodel by gays that just want to get a bunch of tax breaks intended to help with raising families and other random rights.
anime1973 3 months ago
@IrishFriendsFan you're assuming the struggle of blacks and gays are the same. many black people would completely disagree. They were considered to be such a lower life form to merit seperate water fountains. You see, gays aren't really discriminated against. They are free to marry those of the other gender too just like the rest of us. The whole case for gay marriage hinges on the idea that marriage is about love. That's an idea that's only existed in the last couple hundred years
anime1973 3 months ago
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@anime1973 obviously you have never been discriminated against
IrishFriendsFan 3 months ago
@IrishFriendsFan Well most of the children without parents are Blacks, so Prop 8 would go to protect.
Also gays are not persecuted, they simply are over emotional and being manipulated by political agenda to destroy the fabric of society.
Gays are not born gay!
*The mind is mostly plastic
*The body can be poisoned by gender bending chems, BPA, soybean, etc
*Culture can damage the sexual statue of a person
*Lack of Proper parenting of both a mother and father can damage a child
*Morals
*Design
PeekyBooo 2 months ago
Hmmm I like the idea of those two being lesbians
Balian49 3 months ago
who cares? The morman chuch can decide what they want to spend their money one. It isn't their fault the yes on prop 8 won. FACT: More people that were NOT morman voted yes than people that WERE morman so shut up about the morman chuch and let them live in peace will ya?
theduck223 3 months ago
ppl who were already married would stay married (ex post facto laws)
bumsenright 4 months ago
anyone thinking how hot it would be watching those lesbian fuck? vote no for prop 8 so we can watch these girls bang
1234doawee 4 months ago
legalize marijuana!
SayYes420 4 months ago
I would vote for same sex marriage in California, when Commiefornia gets rid of retarded gun laws and give gun owner their rights back! So gun in commiefornia would have to change first before I am pro same sex marriage.
BigJ782011 4 months ago
@BigJ782011 Maybe I am missing something, but what do gun rights have to do with marriage rights?
Kimjira1 3 months ago
@Kimjira1 Because California is a Giant Hypocritical, Commiefornia is taking away gun owners rights and are not punishing the criminals that are the problem, so basically California is taking away firearm owners right and giving rights to other people. How can you take away current rights and just give rights to people like nothing. If I can't have the right to keep and bear arms in a state of the United States why should I let people have "their rights" when my rights are violated?
BigJ782011 3 months ago
TO both sides: You can marry anyone you want with a religious ceremony in your church. Thats legal. The result of prop 8 is that the state will not legally recognize same sex marriages. Thats the law. I disagree with not recognizing those marriages as legal unions, but I also believe that if it is against your religious beliefs you shoudn' be forced to recognize them either.
sarissaki 4 months ago in playlist Religion
@sarissaki: "You can marry anyone you want with a religious ceremony in your church. Thats legal."
-- False. You can have a "ceremony" and you can claim that it makes you married or that it makes you King of California for that matter. But you're neither. No legal same-sex marriages have taken place in the 200 California churches and synagogues that used to welcome these unions in the nearly three years since these marriages were banned by the actions of the Mormon Church on Nov. 4, 2008.
hanohanonacowboy 4 months ago
Ever wonder how much more money other people and places gave to the "No on 8" campaign?
MrFenix174 4 months ago
@MrFenix174 who cares? At least their money went to a good cause.
sweetlolitacookies 4 months ago 2
@sweetlolitacookies ya I agree
theduck223 3 months ago
Im pretty sure those guys are gay
Nicoloismyfriend 4 months ago
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fontanaman13 5 months ago
prop 8 was passed, this taught me something, California is almost filled with disgusting sick homophobic parasites who hide beneath religion only to insult homosexuals
CryoKatana97 5 months ago
I'm willing to believe this commercial as fact, considering how the bulk of the Mormon church is based in UTAH and this bill is in CALIFORNIA. Stay in your own goddamn state, or we'll start going after the sister-wives in every household.
alexjluthor 5 months ago 2
this is the truth
to all those people who belived the YES lies
this is what prop 8 really means
IrishfanofDH 6 months ago 20
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fontanaman13 5 months ago
@IrishfanofDH i still prefer the YES.
anime1973 3 months ago
@anime1973 well its not ur fucking life its affecting
its not ur marriage right taken away
you have no idea what its like to be denied these rights for something we are born with
IrishFriendsFan 3 months ago
@IrishFriendsFan i still prefer YES on Prop8
anime1973 3 months ago
@anime1973 bastard
IrishFriendsFan 3 months ago
@IrishfanofDH haha that is funny because thats not what it does. Marrige is between a man and a women. But its so damn funny I wish we could get rid of all the homos in the world. They are oxygen thieves
JakeSEAL9 2 months ago
@JakeSEAL9 marriage is between ppl who love each other
oxygen thieves?
worst insult ive heard in my life
and by homos i presume u mean homophobes
i mean what use are they
all they do is sit at their computer obsessing over what gay ppl do wich is none of ur business
IrishFriendsFan 2 months ago
Religious Lunacy. there's no escape
BenK8319 6 months ago
That was awesome.
CommanderSix 6 months ago
@mermaidsareppl222. the lds church is not a cult. you can call it what you want, but i am blessed to know what is right, and that the church is true. if you do have questions and concerns or anything, like i said, just call or text. 8016616209
19kooka95 6 months ago
@19kooka95 the only good thing coming out of the book of moron was the musical!
skewlboypin 6 months ago
@19kooka95 ive got some property right on the Atlantic in Tennessee for you if you really believe that
the lds (along with all religions) is a cult
youre just too brainwashed to realize that
mermaidsareppl222 6 months ago
fuck same sex marriage
cozzycovers 6 months ago
@cozzycovers fuck you
mermaidsareppl222 6 months ago 6
i feel so bad for those who havent come to know the full blessing of the lds church in their lives. i know with all my heart that it is the true church, and with every breath i take i will testify that this is the true church. it is the only way to return to our Father in Heaven. if anyone has questions about the church, or anything, feel free to call me. 8016616209
19kooka95 6 months ago 2
@19kooka95 Why is someone with a Utah Area Code commenting on a video about a California ballot measure? Why is our election any of your business?
More to the point, why are other people's marriages and families any of your business? Why would your Church pay money to influence an election in another state? Why would you allow your tithings to go towards harming other people's families and forcing other Churches to abandon their marriage sacraments and obey your so-called "prophet"?
hanohanonacowboy 6 months ago
@19kooka95 the lds is a cult, not a church
mermaidsareppl222 6 months ago
@mermaidsareppl222 Wrong...even a cult qualifies as a church.
JediLDS 5 months ago
Mormon's don't take away rights (only voters who vote make the decision, not the people who campaign with money to tell their position), don't commit home invasions, don't rummage through lesbians' handbags, don't burn documents, and don't go about the political landscape in a holier-than-thou manner, although the liars who made this video want you to think that they do. But, I have listened to many homosexuals spew their hate toward the Mormons, literally and on the radio/tv.
hopeful3412 6 months ago 4
@hopeful3412:
"Mormon's don't take away rights." -- hopeful3412, 7/7/2011
"Proposition 8: Eliminates the Right of Same-Sex Couples to Marry" -- Official California Ballot, 11/4/2008
Please, please quit lying, hopeful.
hanohanonacowboy 6 months ago
@hopeful3412 really? is that why prop h8s biggest supporters (vocally and monetarily) were mormons?
mermaidsareppl222 6 months ago
I find it interesting that when I wanted to make a comment on this one particular video, google reprompted me to include my verification information, which I found strange, so I just allowed the default. Anyway, this commercial is typical propaganda and the filmmaker knows this. The Mormons only donated money to keep the definition of a marriage as that that most all other Christian, Jewish, and Islamic faiths have upheld: between a man and a woman.
hopeful3412 6 months ago
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hanohanonacowboy 6 months ago
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@hopeful3412: "The Mormons only donated money to keep the definition of a marriage ..."
-- LOL. Mormons gave buckets of cash for a political campaign to force other churches to obey their marriage doctrine, in violation of the 11th Article of their cultish Faith. Any American church ought to be expecting that these dangerous extremists will next try to tell them who they can and can't baptize.
hanohanonacowboy 6 months ago 2
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God will not be mocked.
freddie171 6 months ago
its funny,,why is that I want to make a comment on supporting prop8 al comments are disabled..But when theres a vote no on prop8 there are comments all over the place?
MCELVAINE6996 6 months ago
I believe his politicking is in the plain and precious parts of the Bible that were taken out, as well as in the sealed portion of the plates.
SpencerLJensen 6 months ago
I see a lot of arguments here but let me make this comment. lets say that same sex marriage becomes law everywhere. What happens if it is against chruch beliefs i.e. mormons, and not recognized by a church, so the church will not perform one, yet in doing so it is not conforming to the letter of the law. You cant say it is the law, but you do not have to follow it. But then, what will protect also the choice of beliefs?
sarissaki 7 months ago
@sarissaki actually, there are still churches today who won't perform interracial marriages. If you're NOT Catholic, a Catholic church will NOT marry you to some one who is or isn't catholic, you have to covert. Discriminatory? Wasn't interracial marriage legalized? And don't we have freedom of religion? Yes, but there is still a separation of church and state, meaning the gov't can't tell all the churches what to do. So just cause the gov't legalizes gay marriage , it can't force churches
dannytnt86 7 months ago
@dannytnt86 True. I guess I am weary of fanatics on both sides. Especially gay activists. Because I dont wnat to see them try to make everyone say it is OK
sarissaki 7 months ago
@dannytnt86: "the gov't can't tell all the churches what to do"
-- You're right that gov't can't tell you who you have to marry. But gov't can tell you who you CAN'T marry.
That's what happened to my Episcopal church and to 200 other churches and synagogues throughout California when Prop 8 passed. We used to welcome legal same-sex marriages in our congregation, but now the Mormons have paid for a law that tell us we CANNOT legally allow these marriages any longer.
hanohanonacowboy 6 months ago
@hanohanonacowboy Ahhh...it was the VOTERS OF CALIFORNIA who passed the law, not the Mormon church.
JediLDS 5 months ago
@JediLDS Yep. Voters passed the law. The Mormon Church just initiated it and paid for the campaign. With lots and lots of money. Now that these extremists have used their massive wealth to order my church who can and cannot be married in it, we're waiting to see if they will next bankroll a "Prop 9" to tell us who we can and can't baptize.
hanohanonacowboy 5 months ago
@JediLDS
"We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may." --What a total load of shit. And what a pathetic liar the current members of your Church have made of the man who first wrote those words.
hanohanonacowboy 5 months ago
@hanohanonacowboy ... What does "worshiping Almighty God" have to do with prop8 or Joseph Smith? Perhaps you'd care to enlighten me on the matter.
JediLDS 5 months ago
@JediLDS: "What does "worshiping Almighty God" have to do with... Joseph Smith?"
-- Ask your bishop. Big hint: the quote is 169 years old.
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"What does "worshiping Almighty God" have to do with prop8?"
Prop 8 forced my church and others to alter our marriage practices to comply with Mormon dogma. Marriage is a sacrament in my church, as it is in many others. As such, it is a part of our worship. You forced us to change that worship, as surely as if you had told us who we can and can't baptize.
hanohanonacowboy 5 months ago
@sarissaki It's legal for atheists to marry now. It's legal for Bapists to marry. And Catholics. But do you have to let atheists or Baptists or Catholics marry in your Mormon church or temple now? Of course not. You don't even have to let any of these people enter a temple, much less marry there. So why do you think it's any different if gays marry?
hanohanonacowboy 6 months ago
@hanohanonacowboy umm I am not a mormon. But I have a couple of mormon friends and they are very weary of the legalities. It is not about the ceremony alone, but mostly of encounters in everyday life, especially if I want to maintain choices based on beliefs. Agreed, its a very fine line between discrimination and freedom of choice.
sarissaki 6 months ago
@sarissaki: "especially if I want to maintain choices based on beliefs"
-- Well, what do you do now? Unless married gay people are the only folks in the world you have a "belief" about, why can you not simply look ar your everyday life now? There must be other folks on your naughty list. Are you somehow forced to interact with them in a way that you believe violates your "freedom of choice"? If not, then why do you think gay people will have some special power over your "choices"?
hanohanonacowboy 6 months ago
@sarissaki Anyhow, if you're truly so afraid of having your "freedom of choice" abridged, take a trip to California or Massachusetts or Washington DC or Massachusetts or Iowa or any of the other places where same-sex marriage is currently legal. Walk down the street and see if someone comes up and keeps you from "maintaining choices based on beliefs". If they do, you can scurry back to wherever you're typing from now and report right here on YouTube exactly how you were violated.
hanohanonacowboy 6 months ago
@hanohanonacowboy hello? did you even bother to think before you wrote? Did you ever figured out that I was merely mentioning what my buddies intake was? No wonder they are weary after all...Please, scurry back to your typing hole and think, if you can, before you talk
sarissaki 6 months ago
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@sarissaki Here's what you said: " It is not about the ceremony alone, but mostly of encounters in everyday life, especially if I want to maintain choices based on beliefs."
What "choices" do you think you can't "maintain" if same-sex couples have the legal right to marry? The fact is that your neighbors' marriages are none of your business.
hanohanonacowboy 6 months ago
I guess being religious I am retarded. Gay people choose also, they choose to act upon their desires. I think a desire is a choice. Too bad they go against nature when acting upon their desires. Obviously then, gay people are retarded also. I guess I am lower than a retarded gay non believer.
tdman56 7 months ago
@tdman56 they dont go against nature though
mermaidsareppl222 6 months ago
Let's talk about discrimination. I see gay people discriminating against LDS people by showing untruths in this video. Fact, the Mormon Church did not spend money on the amendment. Fact, the members of the church donated money for the amendment to protect the meaning of marriage. We all have our freedom to choose, we don't have to accept everything people want to do. Fact, if you believe in God and the bible, homosexuality is not in accordance with scripture so no to gay marriage.
tdman56 7 months ago
@tdman56 Ya but it's OK to discriminate against mormon, christians and muslims because they chose their beliefs. And the beliefs they chose are stupid. You can't discriminate on race or gender or sexual preference because you don't choose that. However religious people don't have the same rights as the rest of us because they're all retarded and therefore lower then us non believers.
CrazyMunky84 7 months ago
@tdman56: "the Mormon Church did not spend money on the amendment"
-- False. The Church itself reported its donations of tax-exempt church funds on its form 461 "Major Donor Campaign Statement", on file with our CA Secretary of State. The LDS Church is also the only church in 161 years of California history to be fined by the state for breaking our election laws and failing to report some of its donations until AFTER the elections, so voters could not know who was behind this ballot measure.
hanohanonacowboy 6 months ago
@tdman56 Fact, the Mormon Church did not spend money on the amendment.
true
the mormon cult donated money to the amendment
mermaidsareppl222 6 months ago
@tdman56 : Yeah, let's deny people basic civil rights because a fairy tale book said so!
livardo 6 months ago
Fact: Mormons are retards.
WickedMusicalBuffalo 7 months ago
Mormon Church only donated $189 grand.
Most of the money was raised by various churches, not just the mormon community.
mesa176750 7 months ago
@mesa176750: "Most of the money was raised by various churches, not just the mormon community."
-- False. Most of the money came from individuals, very little from churches. Between 55% and 75% came from individual Mormons. The exact percentage can't be known because the religious affiliation of many smaller donors is not known. It's probably even higher than those figures, given the oddly large number of Utah addresses of donors to this ballot measure two states away.
hanohanonacowboy 6 months ago
@hanohanonacowboy "Various churches"= other religions. Mormons were not the highest contributors to this prop. Look that up, because it is known. Yet most people bash the mormons for it.
mesa176750 6 months ago
@mesa176750 Well, yes, Mormons were in fact not only the highest contributors, but they contributed more than ALL other donors combined.
If you're ashamed of Mormons' actions here, I can certainly understand it. But if you are not ashamed, then why do you feel the need to hide behind other churches?
hanohanonacowboy 6 months ago
@mesa176750: " "Various churches"= other religions."
-- Actually, individual Catholics and Protestants and Jews and Mormons supported BOTH sides of Prop 8. But no other religious denomination but the LDS gave money to this political measure. None.
hanohanonacowboy 6 months ago
Bad acting, but the "Yes on prop 8" commercials are even worse lol
RodTalon0000 7 months ago
Sure, Democrats don't want the Church taking over. The same liberals who slander Christianity support radical Islam and want to replace the COnstitution with Sharia Law. Ironically, the same liberals who claim to be champions of gay rights support the radical Muslim groups who kill gays.
StoogeWatcher 7 months ago
I think it's time the government starts doing whats right regardless of what their told, instead of doing what their told regardless of what's right.
Because of bs like this, we are slowly becoming a theocratic government, run by close-minded fools. Not every mormon is like this, hell, not everyone with a religion is like this, thank god. But it's the extemist that go so far to strip other people of their rights that are the true face of ignorance.
xxangelsofchaosxx 7 months ago
@xxangelsofchaosxx i totally agree with you. If we kep going like that, we would end up with our own homegrown taliban version
sarissaki 7 months ago
the mormon church put $20 million dollars into the prop 8 campaign?!!?? do you realize how much that money could have HELPED people if used differently? who puts $20 million dollars into limiting people with their lifestyle choices, seriously...
rareflorence 7 months ago
@rareflorence And how much did the Democratic Party pump into the gay rights movement?
StoogeWatcher 7 months ago
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@StoogeWatcher: "And how much did the Democratic Party pump into the gay rights movement?"
-- Not much. And to my knowledge no Party money went to oppose Prop 8, the subject of this video.
But of the money the Democratic Party or ANY donor gave to Prop 8, every penny came from someone who had paid tax on it. Unlike the LDS Church, which donated funds with a religious tax exemption that tax-paying citizens have to take up the slack on, money that other churches use to help the needy.
hanohanonacowboy 6 months ago
Such a hateful commercial coming from people who claim to be supporting love.
shunshine77 7 months ago
@shunshine77 but it's basically true.
94bananapancakes 7 months ago
to be fair, it wasnt mainly the mormons, 70% of black protestants voted for prop 8 and it had alot of support from the catholic "aids is not as bad as using condoms and raping alter boys" church
MamaMario13 7 months ago
I'm seen a lot of real lesbians...none of them that hot...Now if only they were making out during this commercial, I might have actually cared.
ihaterichppl 7 months ago
@silkfedora But that's what they DID! Suspend you disbelief just for a moment; this is a metaphor, over the top, etc: true. But, it is exactly what you did to people emotionally, figuratively, what have you! It is just plain scary that anyone could see this and not at least think twice.
Azazokk23 7 months ago
How is it that right wingers think they should be able to say, "I don't want this for my self, so no one can have it. Period." WTF?? Doesn't it bother you people that this is how every one sees you?
Azazokk23 7 months ago
3903 people are people who still think that what the church says is right no matter what.
2312 people have brains.
TheMoonmahn 7 months ago
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mikeyrobins022585 7 months ago
@TheMoonmahn No. 3903 people have brains and you don't!
mikeyrobins022585 7 months ago
@mikeyrobins022585 no they are the ones who buy into the mormons lies
like you do
mermaidsareppl222 7 months ago
I'm mormon and I laughed at this. if you want to be taken serious try hiring people who can act and a better story line. this was just hilarious.
urbanegeek 7 months ago
wow, really guys? That was hysterical and I'm a mormon. That was SO outlandish and over-dramaticized that how could anyone take that seriously? LOL, wow, yup, we mormons will just come bursting into your house and snatching up your marriage licenses and your wedding rings >.<
SilkFedora 7 months ago
Until the homosexual community embraces who they really are, instead of trying to emulate the lives of heterosexual individuals, they will never find peace or happiness.
Case in point, no lesbian couple looks like the two women in this video. Most are chubby, short, and have either a "butch-buzz" or frosted spiky short hair.
JavierCA2008 7 months ago
@JavierCA2008 What a dumb and bigoted statement. I've known plenty of lesbian couples who looked "normal" and who were no different from the couple in this video. There is no single type of lesbian couple. Grow up.
AshtonElijah 7 months ago
@JavierCA2008 really? have you met every lesbian couple out there, and can tell that?
dont think so
mermaidsareppl222 7 months ago
@JavierCA2008 oh fuck you, you dont know anything about how people look. for all we know, those two could be lesbians, and you are just too intolerant to use your brain, stop blindly following your church, listen to reason, the church is no longer the ruling power BITCH.
TheMoonmahn 7 months ago
Stupid Morons err Mormons!
arrogantgodjealous 7 months ago
@arrogantgodjealous theres a reason you cant spell mormon without moron
mermaidsareppl222 7 months ago
hahahaha fuck gay people who gives a fuck about there rights
fighter6142 8 months ago
why all of the dislikes?
872463051 8 months ago
@872463051 my guess is its all the mormons who hate to have their religion painted exactly as it is
mermaidsareppl222 8 months ago
in the last days men's hearts will wax cold, and evil will abound. right will be wrong and wrong will be right!! how true!! Jesus is returning soon!!
peakoil76 8 months ago
So I guess this campaign didn't work? But the other campaign did? Interesting.
FreeThinkingLDS 8 months ago
ummmm not very believable.
toplaycool21 8 months ago
being an exmormon i can tell you that their religion teaches them to dislike homosexuals. i was a mormon missionary and taught people to disagree with same-sex marriage (how i regret that =C). they treat it as an addiction and an "unnatural evil to God". If it were so unnatural... why the hell did God allow several species in the animal kingdom to have gay tendencies? im atheist but... if god exists. surely he wouldnt contradict himself? HA! the irony...
xibalba91 8 months ago
@xibalba91 Your story is so sad. I am a Latter Day Saint and I have never hated gay people, nor have I ever heard it told in my Church to dislike them. Because you don't think a lifestyle is right doesn't mean you don't like the people, or care about them. We are not frogs that can change from male to female at will. We are human beings with a spirit and a body. We have been commanded to populate the earth and that would be impossible if everyone were gay, or even the majority.
monsterabit 7 months ago
There's 3,899 homophobes and Christian nutcases on here clearly.
CrazyMunky84 8 months ago 2
@CrazyMunky84 Homophobe is such a silly term. I don't believe in the homosexual lifestyle, that doesn't mean I am afraid of them.
monsterabit 7 months ago
@monsterabit You're right but it does make you a christian nutcase.
CrazyMunky84 7 months ago
@monsterabit "Homophobe" does not mean "afraid of homosexuals". Please invest in a dictionary.
hanohanonacowboy 6 months ago