Should Palestine state be recognized as Nation by the U.N.?

[Bazrak1]

NO ! 

[XMoviesYeah]

NO . :)

[MysterEy1]

@XMoviesYeah Thanks for your simple comment.

[truthforchrist]

@Helenmary123 You coward. I refuted you and exposed you to be a Jew hating bigot. Now you refuse to respond. What's the matter...afraid to admit you were wrong?

[MysterEy1]

@truthforchrist Sure I would like to hear a response too. But please do not invoke the stupid fuking ADL. lawl

[truthforchrist]

@Helenmary123 You speak of the Arabs that fled Palestine (the UN has declared that 80% left without even seeig an IDF soldier)...yet your bigoted mind fails to mention the 1 million Jews that were forced to leave Arab lands at gun point.

[fionnoc]

Imagine the peaceful world we would live in if there was no America and no Israel......

Of course the Palestinians should be recognized by the UN.

[truthforchrist]

Should Palestine state be recognized as Nation by the U.N.?

The palestinians could have had their own state a number of times now. They have been offered their own state, and each time, palestinians leaders have rejected it.

[Helenmary123]

@truthforchrist

You have got a clue about the situation, you Christian creep!

Stick to your religious mumbo jumbo.

It is Zionazi Israel which keeps on stealing Arab land and refuses to give up one inch of stolen Arab land - the fundamentalist scum!

Israel has never made a serious offer of a peace settlement - it steals Palestininian land and resources every single day of the week and commits mass murder of Arabs on a regular basis.

That's no problem for religious retards.

[18blackball]

@Helenmary123 What Palestinian land???? There never was a Palestine. And we dont kill them, we react. Get your facts straight, please for

[Helenmary123]

@18blackball

Gosh, Lord Balfour referred to 'Palestine" in 1917 saying there were around 3 million inhabitants.

Israelis are an "invented people" Israel is an artificial state based on other peoples' land.

You primitive, terrorist Zionist scum murder Arabs on a daily basis. You bulldoze their homes, steal their water, destroy their infrastructure, bomb them regularly, torture them to death, hold them without charges but "we don't kill them".

Israel is a Nazi sewer of terrorism.

[therealkakkamakkara]

@Helenmary123 And again, with Palestine he meant the british mandate, not a state that have been or ever has been, nor was he relating to the people we today call Palestinians. You can't just quote texts! You need to understand the context and the content aswell!

[truthforchrist]

@Helenmary123 Has Israel ever declaired their intent to wipe out the palestinians? Nope. Have the palestinians declaired their intent to wipe out Israel. Yes. Do israelis strap bombs to themselves and kill innocent people? Nope. Do the palestinians? Yes. Does Israel want a 2 state solution? Yes. Does Hamas (the elected leaders of palestine) want a 2 state solution? Nope.

Palestinians didn't exist until 1964 (that is the year they were first called Palestinians).

[Helenmary123]

@truthforchrist

Israel is dedicated to the destruction of everything Palestinian.

The Zionazis send their kids out every day to rape, torture, massacre and steal Arab land and resources.

They don't have to strap on bombs - they have the most efficient WMDs in the world - the parasitic scum do their killing from a safe distance - cowards!

From the safety of helicopters and warplanes they drop their 1000 pound bombs on civilians as well as illegal cluster and phosphorous bombs

[Helenmary123]

@truthforchrist

You as a religious moron wouldn't have a clue what you're talking about.

Palestine has always been called "Palestine". My father who visited "Palestine" in 1939, referred to it as "Palestine" and the peoples as "Palestinians" as did everyone else.

If Israel wants a 2 state solution, Shit for Brains, why does it bulldoze Arab homes and villages to make way for illegal settlements?

Go and read your infantile religious slop.

[therealkakkamakkara]

@Helenmary123 And when your father spoke of Palestinians in those days, he likely spoke of all of them(!) - arabs, muslims, christians and jews alike. For they all inhabited the area and they were all call Palestinians. Terms change. The meaning today is not the same as it ever was. Illegal settlements for ignorant non-working orthodox jews is a scurge though. Like trading one plague for another. *shivers*

[Helenmary123]

@therealkakkamakkara

Israelis are an invented people!

Zionists came to Palestine in the late 19th and 20th century. The British had no moral right to a mandate over Palestine. The Palestinians have the right to self-determination.

The European Jews are not Semitic people. All the Palestinians are Semitic people

Israel's theft of Palestinian land is a violation of international law. Israel is a fascist, terrorist state. It is not a democracy - it is a military theocracy

[Helenmary123]

@truthforchrist

"Israelis" are an invented people - they were invented in 1947 - by murderous, terrorist Zionazis with the assent of the United Nations.

That is the definition of an "invented people".

Look up Plan Dalet, Dopey - the long planned ethnic cleansing campaign carried out by Zionazi terrorists who destroyed hundreds of Palestinian villages and massacred thousands. Many died as they were driven out of their ancestral homeland.

[truthforchrist]

@Helenmary123 As proven, there were no palestinians before 1964, and they were not driven out of their "ancestral homeland". That is just a lie.

You are correct that modern day Isralies were formed in 1947, which means they have been in the region longer than the "palestinians".

[Helenmary123]

@truthforchrist

Ha ha ha - Israeli historians have debunked the founding myth of the Zionazi state of Israel which claims terra nullius.

Benny Morris, Illan Pappe, Avi Schleim - look them up - you are ignorant of history. They analysed the IDF archives and found Plan Dalet - the premeditated ethnic cleansing of historic Palestine by the Zionist terrorists

750,000 driven out in 1948, 250,000 driven out in 1967 and the cleansing still goes on in the West Bank and East Jerusalem

[GirlonFilm1969]

No.

[MysterEy1]

@GirlonFilm1969 ok, no

[JBGodzilla]

The Arabs have 22 states of their own! The Arabs NEVER had a state in the Land of Israel! "Palestine" is the name the white European Romans gave to Judea after they finally destroyed the Jewish state in 135 AD after three huge and bloody Jewish revolts. It is JEWISH LAND that was occupied by Arabs who brought Arabic and Islam from Arabia! There has been an Arab state in eastern Palestine since 1922 now called "Jordan." THe purpose of another one is only to destroy the singular Jewish state!

[MysterEy1]

@JBGodzilla Thanks for the comment and opinion. Yes I know those facts, most of them. Was Jordon really created in 1922? What is transJordan?

[JBGodzilla]

@MysterEy1

Transjordan is another name for the lands east of the Jordan river,or eastern Palestine. In Biblical times a large part was part of ancient ISrael, as well as where Moab and Edom were located. It was initially slated to go the Zionists, but Emir Abdullah came and took it, so Churchill removed it out of the area of the Mandate where Jews could resettle in 1922. After 1946, the name became the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan when it achieved full independence.

[HateIronMaiden]

@MysterEy1 Transjordan is a former name on Jordan.

[MysterEy1]

@HateIronMaiden Thanks for that factoid.

[JerusalemRocks]

I remember in 1993, at the beginning of the Palestinian state caled Palestinian authority, Yasser Arafat wanted tanks, fighter jets, missiles, airports and the PM Rabin said no. It was too obvious it would have served to exterminate the Jews. This is the big difference, a state can make his own money and have his own army.. The nations who vote for a P state are voting for the extermination of Israel. May God punish them in this world and in the next .

[YTolympics]

@JerusalemRocks Your statement is full of fear and paranoia. Where does it proclaim this in the Bible? Which prophet has this Word of G*d?

[PeaceProfit]

The resolution must come from all the people of the world, until then everything else is a partial, small step toward peace...

[protester]

@PeaceProfit What is the big deal about this part of the world? What's the importance except for a local matter? Why is everybody suckered into the Biblical hype. Thats what it is, an old lie!

[protester]

@protester Anywho, I protest israel and I protest Palestine and protest the bible thumping control mechanism!!

[PeaceProfit]

@protester, and what do these protest yield, but more of the same... division, conflict, suffering, abuse, etc. etc.

While the logical, reasonable, peaceful, cooperative, prosperous and sustainable options are beaten down, ignored and marginalized by the resulting fear based reality created...

[PeaceProfit]

@protester, Perhaps, yet the reality remains that it is accepted by many of the major tribes of the world, which have carried it's fear into the very fabric of human society, mostly for political purpose... Thus peaceful resolution will only come from the people's realization of and action upon that fear... This is slowly happening, and will continue... Though as always the opportunity and choice for peace to arise is YOUR's.

i*am offering actions to initiate a peaceful, prosperous outcome.

[HippyCommune]

@PeaceProfit intersting viewpoint.

[PeaceProfit]

@HippyCommune, i*find truth always is... a more interesting, productive, profitable and sustainable viewpoint...

[18blackball]

@PeaceProfit One day, we will all stop killing one another, and then peace will reign supreme. The haters, like the one called @Helenmary123 will see to it that world will fall apart because of asses such as her. It's a good time of the year for all of us to say a prayer for peace. Jews, Christians and Muslims alike.

[Helenmary123]

@18blackball

Actually, the real "haters" are the terrorist thugs who hate Arabs so much they steal Palestinian land and resources on a daily basis and commit regular mass murder.

It takes a lot of hate to deprive 5 million people of their basic human rights.

ISRAEL - A ZIONAZI SEWER OF TERRORISM!

[FreeGiraffes]

Free giraffes and Free palestines!

[IChoseTheRedPill]

it's a tough call... the palestinians embrace hamas... face it, they are a danger to israel... why did the palestinians elect hamas??? that's what is fu*king it all up... israel has to stop shelling palestinian civilians... man this is a complicated situation... the UN will do what it wants to do... by the way, this video lost audio too...

Kensho

[MysterEy1]

@IChoseTheRedPill about the audio - I tried to compile these by using that online Editor. Guess it aint working too well.

Thanks for your views on the Palestine topic.

[inabluemoon1]

@IChoseTheRedPill Palestinians or Hamas or an enemy without a flag lobs rockets daily into Isreal sometimes they do worse hurting and killing people . It seems only then does Isreal respond . Most media did not tell the truth about the flowtilla . The daily bias is lies . Giving hope to what ever enemy only causes more suffering . Give the people Sinai . And the larger problem is the local governments thru religion enslave the people and teach racism to children

[1000You2b0001]

@inabluemoon1 I heard from the channel Roodawakening that Moses rec'd the commandments on the Arabian peninsula not on the Sinai peninsula.

[inabluemoon1]

@1000You2b0001 Will have to check that . Maybe an alter and a split rock of importance . Unable to get in there to check it . Possibly a coverup on the temple mount . Opportunities for tourism . No one will help them . Used as a pawn . A weopon of hate by Principalities .

[superhamzah85]

@IChoseTheRedPill

The problem is not who the Palestinians vote for, but the fact they were not given a vote in 1948 on what happens to 78% of their land. Incredibly, they did not vote for such a party for 50 years, despite the theft of their country. A move most countries would have made much sooner.

[superhamzah85]

What consequences have you had for your people voting Bush?

Your house demolished? A bombing campaign? He practically almost started WW3, and you don't suffer a jot, because you have the biggest guns. That's all...and history seems to show the biggest guns are always right...at the time.

In future, the biggest guns are the villains, like you see the British empire.

[YTolympics]

@superhamzah85 Of course it all sucks. its rotten. but that is human nature and the story of history, capitalism breeds greed and violence and karma.

[superhamzah85]

@YTolympics

No that's the story on the news, in real life, 99% of life is just mediocre, mixed with comedy.

[protester]

@superhamzah85 I protested all of that. I protest Bush. you can see my videos from 4 years ago. i protest Obama. etc.

[Helenmary123]

@IChoseTheRedPill

The majority of Israelis embrace the theft of other peoples' land and resources.

Israel is a Nazi style, terrorist state, dedicated to Nazi lebensraum "living space" on other peoples' land.

It is not a bit complicated. The Zionazis should end their mass murder, mass torture, mass imprisonment without charge, end their bulldozing of Arab homes and olive groves, end their illegal Occupation.

Zionazis embrace the most sadistic crimes against humanity.

ZIONISM=NAZISM

[MysterEy1]

@Helenmary123 I've heard the comparison a million times before. but even though it seems to be appropriate to expose the HYPOCRISY, it is just as useful to compare nazis to Americans, or Mexicans, or Chinese, etc.

The real reason why Israel is problematic and questionable is detailed in my following video. please watch.

[MysterEy1]

@Helenmary123 that's not quite neutrality. Which is the main thing we need. to solve the problems everywhere.

[18blackball]

@Helenmary123 Why do the most ignorant people post comments like you have. I have a red pill that may do you some good. It dosent hurt. It just makes the brain mature faster. You are sick, and I feel sorry for everyone who comes in contact with you and your contagious disease. Unfortunately,the doctors can't help you.

[therealkakkamakkara]

@Helenmary123 The fact that Gaza belonged to Egypt and the West Bank to Jordan is apparently beside the point. Had their arab "brothers" embraced them, "Palestinians" would have had all the room they could ever need. Israel, being among one of the smallest nations in the world can hardly be ascribed to the aspirations of lebensraum. Muhammad, Islam and the Quran however make claims to everything that a muslim has ever set foot on. So it's really more Fanatical Islam=Nazism^10.

[Helenmary123]

@therealkakkamakkara

The primitive, fanatical, fundamentalist ideology of Zionism is a scourge in the Middle East.

Zionism is akin to Nazism - that is why the fascist state of Israel steals Palestinian land and resources every single day of the week.

Israel does not feed its own holocaust survivors - they die in poverty in Israel. 2/3 of Israel's kids live in poverty to feed the war machine and the Zionazi terrorist doctrine of ethnic cleansing

Israel a terrorist state.

[therealkakkamakkara]

@Helenmary123 You're making up stories on limited statistics. Israel has poor arabs, bedouins, orthodox jews (haredi). The latter makes the most babies of all and are seemingly happy to live the way they do. If they don't have a problem with it, why should you? Israel has high life expectancy and good health care. People are clearly not left to die! A big problem however is the high cost of living thanks to all the foreign investment making domestic salaries worth less.

[MysterEy1]

@Helenmary123 Since you are stating this (which I may or may not agree) what would you state about the USA policies? US gov is also "nazi style"?

thanks for your opinions.

[Helenmary123]

@MysterEy1

Obama passed the National Defence Authorisation Act which formally allows the President to murder US citizens on the basis of secret evidence if he considers them "suspects", it also allows him to jail US citizens in military internment camps, without charges or trial.

Its wars of aggression and assassinations violate the US Constitution and International Law.

The US has always acted like a fascist state - now the pretense of democracy is gone.

Yes, it is 'nazi style'.

[MysterEy1]

@Helenmary123 I think you have some valid proof there. Thanks.

[XMoviesYeah]

@Helenmary123

you say it because you are brainwashed.

to understand how much your mind is screwed up,

go to israel and you will see its just like america, only most of the citzens are jews.

(yes, arabs lives there, we are not aginst them, we are aginst terrorists.)

[MysterEy1]

@XMoviesYeah I agree to the fact that it has become so mych like America and UK... and arabs do live there. But the ones on the outskirts have been put there because they are being atrophied and marginalized. They are not allowed to have representation in knesset so they were squeezed out by design. Killing the people brings retaliation, by relatives. This is falsely dangerously labeled as t'rorizm.

[XMoviesYeah]

@MysterEy1 not really,

actually if you will come to israel you will see that they living with us in peace and they do have the right to vote and they have have representation in knesset.

the only one who say that there`s problem its palestines that not live in our country.

[PREGNANCYagency]

Very deep collection. I can see the issues from many sides now.

[MysterEy1]

@PREGNANCYagency its much to ponder.

[tigerbutter360]

This is not a conflict; rather an occupation and displacement of a people in a religious conquest for a patch of earth. It would seem easier to find common ground if the prize of the competition was removed from the earth. That is to say if Jerusalem was the building site for something else. In the mean time it seems the united secular social moment is our best hope.

[MysterEy1]

@tigerbutter360 Thanks a lot for posting your views. I tend to agree. my priority is to remain politically neutral.

[inabluemoon1]

@tigerbutter360 Wish we could give them Sinai but Islamist enslave . Total control thru Religion .