Zappas last great compositional album (aside from 200 Motel)... after this it's mostly comedy music. REALLY GREAT stuff mind you, but he had to make a living. Comedy music sells, y'know.
@zappascum so, i'm curious, what is the true form of your nickname? without punctuation, I can't help but read it as Zappa's Cum... please tell me that is not what you meant, because that is just... tasteless.
@zappascum Understood sir. I suppose not everyone has such a dirty, filthy mind like me; which spouts double entendres every chance it gets. Speaking of which, see if you can spot one in my last post... yes I am shameless. ::tips hat:: BTW, thanks for taking this in stride, as I am only taking the piss out on ya anyway. Anyone with such distinguished taste that involves Zappa's Hot Rats is instantly cool in my book.
Yeah, Ian was extremely talented. Hot Rats was one of the first 16 track albums ever produced. Frank really employed a great deal of unique creativity thanks to that technical advance.
The way Frank talks about himself and his music is kind of sad.. I don't think he realized how legendary he would become in the future after he died.. I don't mean this in a bad way at all.. I just think his music became something bigger then himself, that's why it's 2010 and I'm listening to Frank guitar solos shitting myself at how great he was. "get it while it's hot" Frank didn't realize to some people his music will be "hot" forever
@stevevaizorz Wait, I think there is no question but that he knew well he'd become legendary and bigger than life in his time, as so much in that vain (sic) was written in his time. Hell, I took a college classical music course and when required to do a 10minute speech/presentation of some classical composer, I choose Frank with the prof's permission (1973). The way he talks isn't sad, it's great. All you see is that he wasn't too impressed.with himself (good, and a key to his success).
This is my fav. Zappa album. I am seeing now it is hard to come across and so glad I already have it. Bought it when it was released. I sometimes question whether or not music should be remastered. It almost is the same as taking an antique piece of furniture and refinishing it to make it brighter and clearer. In the process though you lose something authentic about it.
i must disagree, the remastered version has much more appreciation of the various harmonies on tracks like this. although the percussion really shines.
i must disagree, the remastered version has much more appreciation of the various harmonys on tracks like this. although the percussion really shines.
Miles Davis' "Bitches Brew" is often cited as the first "fusion" LP... I don't think it's that cut and dried: John Mayall's "Jazz/Blues Fusion" LP (the first use of that term, by the way), and "Hot Rats," should be right up there with it.
The original master is superior to RykoDisc's remix. A friend in college (1972) had this LP, and it sounded gorgeous on his Thorens turntable, powered by his MacIntosh amp. I can't remember the make of the speakers, but they made the music flow as if you were sitting live in Frank's recording studio! In my opinion, Hot Rats was Frank's big "breakout" album away from the MOI albums. A classic to the very end!
my favourite tune of all time. i used to live on this on when i was at school, playing it over and over again in my head all through lessons. before walkmen let alone ipods. i used to play uncle meat at school discos and freak out alone on the empty dance floor. kept me sane, and i'll draw any rhino who says i'm not.
@elsa924 electromorphic nose flute-hydrogyrion reflux clapper-partchmonious vibrateet-tripleflauted analphone-various kitchen appliances and an amphigoric humour
Did Franck ever commented on his guitar techniques? i am curious what was he using, scalewise as he was also a writer did that influence is improvisation style?
I'd find this utterly bizarre to play live...I guess if it was all worked out, but if I got on stage and a group just sort of "jammed" this out I don't know if I'd quite know what the hell to play lol bloody brilliant.
well, I suspect he was trying to say that when he composes, he's not writing with anyone in mind, and that "most" of the younger generation these days is not into his music...but if you are more adventurous, it doesn't matter what your age is.
"After I am dead and gone, there is no need to deal with any of this stuff, because it is not written for future generations, it is not performed for future generations. It is performed for now. Get it while it's hot, you know? That's it."
For the love of God, hands down, Zappa was a mirage and melodist to all of us in the world of music. He was a genius in every aspect the human mind should have!
I actually got a 200 gram vinyl remaster of this album that has totally different mixes from the original vinyl. I find that I prefer the 200 gram versions over the originals (this sounds like one of those mixes). The different elements really come out well and it's just fantastic.
@00eddie0 Yeah I agree the original vinyl version is much better. Same applies to most of the others too, although they've finally released the original vinyl version of "Ruben" on cd.
Funny that, especially as Frank said the bass/drum tracks were ruined on the original tape, but I don't think anyone really beleieved that tosh!
@00eddie0 Yeah I agree the original vinyl version is much better. Same applies to most of the others too, although they've finally released the original vinyl version of "Ruben" on cd.
Funny that, especially as Frank said the bass/drum tracks were ruined on the original tape, but I don't think anyone really believed that tosh.
Zappas last great compositional album (aside from 200 Motel)... after this it's mostly comedy music. REALLY GREAT stuff mind you, but he had to make a living. Comedy music sells, y'know.
yoursaxman 1 week ago
man that sax just gave me a bonner
PaulThe123 1 year ago
me too
the remix always bugs me altho zappa did it supposedly...
kneejerk 1 year ago
me too
the remix always bugs me altho zappa did it supposedly...
kneejerk 1 year ago
God, that's great !!!
senator200 1 year ago
This LP, I've already bought back the 70's! It's hot stuff!
Movielunatic 1 year ago
is this the original vinyl mix? it sounds quite different from the ryko version?
zappa= greatest composer ever!!
zappascum 1 year ago
Better than the remastered one. Thank you for this fantastic present, eddie!
paninomorbido 1 year ago
Zappa a name to associate with the highest sophistication of beat music.
Hyardacil 1 year ago
Underrated LP...Christgau can suck it big.
FungusMossGnosis 1 year ago 5
@FungusMossGnosis Christgau is a total fuck up! he's always bashing franks music. zappa= genuis!
zappascum 1 year ago
@zappascum so, i'm curious, what is the true form of your nickname? without punctuation, I can't help but read it as Zappa's Cum... please tell me that is not what you meant, because that is just... tasteless.
blackfloyd23 1 month ago
@blackfloyd23 Zappa's cum?? HA HA HA!! That's brilliant! Why didn't i think of that!?
No, that is not what it means! it's Zappa-scum actually.
zappascum 1 month ago
@zappascum Understood sir. I suppose not everyone has such a dirty, filthy mind like me; which spouts double entendres every chance it gets. Speaking of which, see if you can spot one in my last post... yes I am shameless. ::tips hat:: BTW, thanks for taking this in stride, as I am only taking the piss out on ya anyway. Anyone with such distinguished taste that involves Zappa's Hot Rats is instantly cool in my book.
blackfloyd23 1 month ago
Total 60's genius released October 1969
cph714 1 year ago
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cph714 1 year ago
It was the '70's anyway
jfpOne23 1 year ago
god i love this
fiveyearwinterkiss 1 year ago
This isn't 60's shit, it's 60's ingenuity.
DarvekDRoberts 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this - love this piece !!!
Especially this vinyl version....
senator200 1 year ago
This is the real deal! Genius!
robcmoseley 1 year ago
Yeah, Ian was extremely talented. Hot Rats was one of the first 16 track albums ever produced. Frank really employed a great deal of unique creativity thanks to that technical advance.
rfauconneau 1 year ago
It IS a camel. :) God, I've listened to this piece so many times and only now do I understand I love it SO much. I Love You, Frank!
MrWaterpumpkin 1 year ago
This album WAS Zappa.
kurd55 1 year ago
Reminds me of Ornette Coleman's work with Prime Time with some classical motifs thrown in. Still amazes me that someone sat down and composed this.
lupelicious822 1 year ago
@lupelicious822
Even more amazing is how Frank Zappa and Ian Underwood played all the instruments outside of the drums on this album. Not too many people know this.
grant1r 1 year ago
@grant1r Jean Luc Ponty plays electric violin on this one.
termsofusepolice 1 year ago
The way Frank talks about himself and his music is kind of sad.. I don't think he realized how legendary he would become in the future after he died.. I don't mean this in a bad way at all.. I just think his music became something bigger then himself, that's why it's 2010 and I'm listening to Frank guitar solos shitting myself at how great he was. "get it while it's hot" Frank didn't realize to some people his music will be "hot" forever
stevevaizorz 1 year ago 4
@stevevaizorz Wait, I think there is no question but that he knew well he'd become legendary and bigger than life in his time, as so much in that vain (sic) was written in his time. Hell, I took a college classical music course and when required to do a 10minute speech/presentation of some classical composer, I choose Frank with the prof's permission (1973). The way he talks isn't sad, it's great. All you see is that he wasn't too impressed.with himself (good, and a key to his success).
skidancin 1 year ago
Damn this is much more jazzy than the Zappa I'm used too, which other albums are like this??
seb2112 1 year ago
@seb2112 Try The Grand Wazoo.
Orlor 1 year ago
@seb2112 Waka/Jawaka. My biology teacher just gave me that album. Listen to Big Swifty, and Waka/Jawaka (song).
MusicThatDoesNotSuck 1 year ago
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@seb2112 waka/jawaka actually on my page if you wanna check it out.
MusicThatDoesNotSuck 1 year ago
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gkchvh 1 year ago
This is my fav. Zappa album. I am seeing now it is hard to come across and so glad I already have it. Bought it when it was released. I sometimes question whether or not music should be remastered. It almost is the same as taking an antique piece of furniture and refinishing it to make it brighter and clearer. In the process though you lose something authentic about it.
BreezesofConey 1 year ago
i must disagree, the remastered version has much more appreciation of the various harmonies on tracks like this. although the percussion really shines.
meccaollielord 1 year ago
i must disagree, the remastered version has much more appreciation of the various harmonys on tracks like this. although the percussion really shines.
meccaollielord 1 year ago
zappa is a legend.
SimplyShadow 1 year ago
another masteer piece!!!!
MAGHOUSING 1 year ago
Zappa the greatest rock composer ever. The real king is dead long live the real king!
zappasea1 1 year ago 2
give vinyl
asins 1 year ago
me too vinly is my friend and this song is a hard one to play
CosmikZomby 1 year ago
Miles Davis' "Bitches Brew" is often cited as the first "fusion" LP... I don't think it's that cut and dried: John Mayall's "Jazz/Blues Fusion" LP (the first use of that term, by the way), and "Hot Rats," should be right up there with it.
tuxguys 1 year ago
The original master is superior to RykoDisc's remix. A friend in college (1972) had this LP, and it sounded gorgeous on his Thorens turntable, powered by his MacIntosh amp. I can't remember the make of the speakers, but they made the music flow as if you were sitting live in Frank's recording studio! In my opinion, Hot Rats was Frank's big "breakout" album away from the MOI albums. A classic to the very end!
TheWildweasel105 1 year ago
@TheWildweasel105 And Hot Rats was a top finisher in Playboy Magazines Jazz Pop poll one year.
skidancin 1 year ago
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this is shit, just a yunkies playing instrument stoned
SeniorConcha 1 year ago
@SeniorConcha frank zappa didn't use drugs, he proved that all you need to expand the mind is music
iamnotstoned619 1 year ago
my favourite tune of all time. i used to live on this on when i was at school, playing it over and over again in my head all through lessons. before walkmen let alone ipods. i used to play uncle meat at school discos and freak out alone on the empty dance floor. kept me sane, and i'll draw any rhino who says i'm not.
pbedwards1 1 year ago
what instruments are played in this song?
elsa924 1 year ago
@elsa924 electromorphic nose flute-hydrogyrion reflux clapper-partchmonious vibrateet-tripleflauted analphone-various kitchen appliances and an amphigoric humour
phillfoote 1 year ago 10
@phillfoote You talk the talk.....tuned in....5 by 5.
jfcc9086 1 month ago
2nd favourite after 'little umberellas'
but so hard to choose. I love this album to bits
b0b1919 1 year ago
My favorite from Hot rats.
truck2112yes 1 year ago
One of my favorite tracks off Hot Rats. I always think of Sim City 3000 when I listen to it, due to the similar sounds.
mpauger15 2 years ago
Did Franck ever commented on his guitar techniques? i am curious what was he using, scalewise as he was also a writer did that influence is improvisation style?
BlahBlah170576567 2 years ago
I'd find this utterly bizarre to play live...I guess if it was all worked out, but if I got on stage and a group just sort of "jammed" this out I don't know if I'd quite know what the hell to play lol bloody brilliant.
ZarathustrasCrown 2 years ago
hope this serves to expose Zappa to more young people who truly love music...
listen carefully, more than once....
gergsar 2 years ago
@gergsar ok, I will, but I better not get dissapointed!
julesickdrums 2 years ago
Zappa says his music isn't FOR younger generation
BlazeInRhye 2 years ago
well, I suspect he was trying to say that when he composes, he's not writing with anyone in mind, and that "most" of the younger generation these days is not into his music...but if you are more adventurous, it doesn't matter what your age is.
gergsar 2 years ago
"After I am dead and gone, there is no need to deal with any of this stuff, because it is not written for future generations, it is not performed for future generations. It is performed for now. Get it while it's hot, you know? That's it."
BlazeInRhye 2 years ago
@BlazeInRhye Just another reason for me to go back in time. I need a petition for someone to build me a goddamn time machine.
Tengent 1 year ago
@BlazeInRhye did he really said that? wow. im 20 and i like most of his albums.
BigHashTouraj 2 years ago
Yup. So in conclusion: Fuck frank Zappa. I'm going to listen to him any way.
BlazeInRhye 2 years ago
@BlazeInRhye whatever
BigHashTouraj 2 years ago
quintessential zappa.
parts have a Chicago kind of feel in there (same era Chicago, obviously).
JonP1961 2 years ago
THANK YOU!!!
frederickus 2 years ago
The are 1/4 to 1/8 second pauses with temporal almost separate still pockets
but still attached by the bile that courses
it into the ongoing portion of the song. Very subtle but maybe its just the title..
cubist fragments of a camel carton. my interpretation.
dexterpointexter 2 years ago
colud you upload little umbrelas?
ElFlakoRompanTodo 2 years ago 4
For the love of God, hands down, Zappa was a mirage and melodist to all of us in the world of music. He was a genius in every aspect the human mind should have!
Noah58 2 years ago 2
CANCION DE 1969
jorgealbertobaron 2 years ago 2
I actually got a 200 gram vinyl remaster of this album that has totally different mixes from the original vinyl. I find that I prefer the 200 gram versions over the originals (this sounds like one of those mixes). The different elements really come out well and it's just fantastic.
Slimer049 2 years ago
uhhhh, can u speec en inglish? u remined mee of a dokter hoo diagnosed mee wirh gynocoppus. i said ur rong, feelz like da clap too meeeeeee.
mdees100 2 years ago
Did you really just say that. "can u speec en inglish" oh the irony.
TheSeeph 2 years ago
Damn, what a genious, essential album!
metallica4414 2 years ago
what a different mixing, really another prospective of music
napomania 2 years ago 2
is this from the vinyl? it's a very different sounding mix
GoDrex 2 years ago
yes, this is before it was remastered. to be honest i like these much more.
00eddie0 2 years ago 16
Me too, but I consider both essential
ghellogm 2 years ago
me too
kezmo52 2 years ago
@00eddie0 Yeah I really love my vinyls the sound is nicer then the remastered cds
Ledzep69Man 1 year ago 2
@00eddie0 Yeah I agree the original vinyl version is much better. Same applies to most of the others too, although they've finally released the original vinyl version of "Ruben" on cd.
Funny that, especially as Frank said the bass/drum tracks were ruined on the original tape, but I don't think anyone really beleieved that tosh!
thekwaze 1 year ago
@00eddie0 Yeah I agree the original vinyl version is much better. Same applies to most of the others too, although they've finally released the original vinyl version of "Ruben" on cd.
Funny that, especially as Frank said the bass/drum tracks were ruined on the original tape, but I don't think anyone really believed that tosh.
thekwaze 1 year ago
Remastering can butcher a song and make it sound 2-dimensional, imo.
High quality vinyl gives an 'organic' depth that digital just can't replicate.
A roommate of mine had a McIntosh high-end tube setup similar to this:
watch?v=AfvgodH9UCc
I took the Pepsi challenge blind without knowing what was playing between the two, digital or vinyl.
The vinyl sounded better every single time, even against CD's,
kasteman1 1 year ago
So angular and beautiful. Downloaded it before ZFT gets its hands on this
harhar...
GreggaryPeccary 2 years ago 3