@GeXeL77 Well my MW3 model montage on my page has 200k views... and it's beast, i;d like to see you get 3 moabs in 1 game with this gun, each in about 40 seconds, so smd.
0:46 is why i stopped using the 87.the gun has monster stats but it doesn't translate into the game.it's almost like it literally has no spread.with this guns numbers firing 8 pellets that should be a OHK even without damage.
Also, The spas is the best 1-shot kill shotgun in MW3 with stead aim, damage and extended mags, gets the same range/kill power or very close to the one as MW2, just not the same spread.
Here's a tip...when you shoot someone with a shotgun dont quickscope them if you know what I mean cus for some reason the shot gets inaccurate and not all the pellets get him....you either hip fire them or be aiming down your sights fully.
tip on using the model, its better at long range because its ment for longer ranges, its the worst up close, but can get insane one shot kills at range if your accurate enough.
Always use damage on shotguns specially on the model and use specialist thats also really epic. My class : gold model with damage throwing knive and stun grenades, perks: extreme cond. Assassin. Steady aim,, specialist: SoH, scavenger, quickdraw :)
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1. Yes Shotguns are generally bad. But either use the Striker or get Damage and Extended mags on the Model 1887.. Never aim down sights on a shotgun btw.
2. The game rewards people who play the objective. So you did the right thing running around putting your ass on the line for your team. Campers will be eliminated as soon as IW fix the idiotic Assassin perk or more players wise up and use recon perk or support streaks.
3. You don't get 'punished severely' for a mistake. You just die :/
No attachments on the Model 1887 were you thinking Spas 12? I think striker is noob shotgun basically auto Striker+Range/Damage+Extended Magz=Nooby easy kills. I never used Striker myself, I just know that combo equals easy kills.
Spas 12 and Model 1887 take more skill to use but when you unlock damage everything is great.
@gravityhammer25 Yeah I have the Striker maxed out and I go absolutely crazy with it using Specialist package and GLM as a secondary. But it doesn't take skill to use.
I watched Terminator 2 last night.. I never realised Arnold was using an 1887 in that movie. So fuck the Striker, I'm gonna level up my 1887 and become a badass player :D
I'll be getting damage and extended mags upgrade, but what perks do you suggest?
I usually have extreme conditioning pro, assassin pro for the element of surprise, and steady aim pro for quick hip fire. But Blind Eye can let you run around when you have enemy air support and Dead Silence can let you sneak up behind people fast. I think hip fire needs steady aim for longer ranges and hip fire is the only way to get consistent 1 hit kills sometimes u get lucky ADS.
@gravityhammer25 Currently leveled my 1887 to 10 I think.. This gun is fucking retarded. All I get is hit markers sometimes. Few games I started out owning. Literally one shotting. Then I get a string of games where I hit someone point blank and I get a hit marker. Gun is soo inconsistent its making me cry. I wanna keep using it because its such a good feeling when you shoot someone with it, but its inconsistently is really turning me off. I might have to use your perk setup
It is hell to get to damage but the grind is worth it. It is not a consistent gun more of a novelty. I feel IW should buff the 1887 and give it more damage its supposed to be strongest shotgun but it has no more power then the Spas 12.
What really is messed up is 2 Attachments Proficiency for Model 1887 a gun with no attachments...... am I being trolled by IW??
@Tommybotham Same shit with me. I was cruising at the start, until I was at about level 10, hitmarkers started, at point blank range nonetheless. Then it got better through level 15-22, then sucked again until about 28-29. Now that it's full proficiency, it's hitmarker city again, with damage, on hardcore.
@Tommybotham wouldn't it make sense to camp it out in TDM and get a good KD in order to win, trust me dude, even if assassin perk is completely removed, there will still be campers, mw3 is so inconsistent that the only way to get a good KD is to camp, sad truth. shout outs to IW for making a shitty game. rushing is also punished by the garbage spawn in mw3, it's ridiculous how bad they are.
I completely disagree in that MW3 is still a rusher's paradise; small maps and close spawns make it fairly difficult to play defensively unless either your team actually plays as a team (very rare in COD) or the other team is full of scrubs. I do agree, though, that the shottys are frustrating at low proficiencies.
God every cod shotguns are such crap. Why do they even bother putting them in the game if they're gonna be this bad. The 1887 was perfect in mw2. It was akimbo that overpowered it. Now they nerfed the absolute shit out of it
I was playing hardcore TDM yesterday with the 1887, I was getting goddamn hitmarkers at point blank range. But of course at long range it was a 1 hit kill. On fucking hardcore.
What really annoys me with the 1887 and spas 12 is the time it takes to out a new shell in the chamber. They should have made it so that Sleight of hand reduces the "pump" time. Cause in most situations a hit marker means you are fucked cause you´ll be dead in between pumps. Also if they remove the extended mags/more pellets thing, activision are idiots. It is the only thing that makes shotguns usable
You would say they weren't compared to Akimbo G18's or the Grenade Launcher? You still had to flip them, giving an enemy plenty of time killing you off.
its a damn good thing theres no attachments for this gun cuz its gay and the akmbo mw2 ones looked retarded like ur running with sticks in ur hands smh...also why wud anyone want to use a 1887 gun in a game set in 2016...smfh
@aqwNotxdragon24@Vidfucker Damage puts people down far more reliably. The 1887 needs to be a 1-hit KO and that's what Damage does for it.
I find it funny that I get all these questions about Range versus Damage on this video, an FFA where I go 30-16 and get horrendous hitmarkers, but there's no questions at all about Range on my 30-5 FFA with the 1887/Damage combo, where I totally rape face. It's never once crossed my mind to go back to Range since I unlocked Damage.
i hear they're gonna patch the extended magazine for the shotguns, its really a slap in the face since shotguns suck in general but for them to take the only advantage we have away is sickening
this gun is beast for me. i dont know why i do so well with this rifle but ump45 and the scar, i suck royally with while most people love those guns, go figure.
I got confused with your view on the health system. First of all let me say nice work on the video and using one of my fave weapons. As for the health I feel its ridiculously low! There is absolutely NO ROOM for error. If you see red on your screen that you are being shot just start pressing the respawn key. Im not new to FPS, just mw3. Camping has been and always will be a part of any type of FPS and its not fair to call campers noobs.1.You can also camp2.They arent hard to kill usually.
Hey man great video. I totally agree with your view on MW3. I feel it promotes and rewards corner camping hardcore. I've been using the model 1887 latelty also just to mix it up a bit. The hitmarkers are ridiculous and hopefully they fix it. I'm only level 19 with it so far. I like using it because you know you really deserve the kills you get with it, and it's a slap in the face for the other try-hards.
too all those using the 1887's; It is worth the grind to get the damage proficiency, it makes this shotgun 175% better. i have never raged so much in my life gettin my model to 28, but now that i have the damage proficiency im a much more peaceful person.
I feel your pain man I am using the model right now. I currently have the range proficiency, I have been getting so many hit markers and it just pisses me off. When i shoot a guy and i get a hit marker and they just kill. Im trying so hard to get the gold camo for the gun and the damage proficiency but it is just hard getting all those kills. Anyways I agree what you said 100% on your commentary and keep up the good work man.
I use this gun only on hardcore,, it doesn't work on the standard playlist.. on hardcore, if you shoot someone with the model 1887 they will die. on standard playlist it takes like 3 shots.
@IMABOMBERMAN damn, nice one bro! is there a place where i can see what those look like? i only just got 200 headshots, you can't be far from 5,000 kills with that thing
Don't aim down sights. Aim down the sights and the buckshot spread widens considerably. You will land much more consistent one-shot kills if you hip fire.
Again, its best to hip fire the shotguns and trust me, they are 100% better. Just make sure you line up your crosshairs well. You have to be precise especially when using a pump action shotgun.
@ItZDaVo Proof/source? I don't think that has been true since CoD 4. I definitely get more one shot kills with the SPAS 12 and KSG 12 if I aim down the sights. This is especially apparent when you put the silencer on those guns; you'll get nothing but hitmarkers unless you ADS.
The whole point of aiming down sights with the shotguns is that it tightens the spread. It would be completely counter intuitive for the opposite to be true.
Use shotguns in HC! Core suck balls. I've used this proficiency plenty but I find the damage can be better to have because it minimizes chances of hit markers so stick with damage. I hate how there's no fucking akimbos, it's ridiculous! Is there anyone else that feels my pain?
This gun is hard 2 use (at least fur me it is) so when I'm 10th prestige imma use a prestige token 2 unlock this and use it until I unlock range because I want a challenge. I may fuck up my kd but I dont care
I luv the model, i go 4-0 in the first round of search and destroy w/ dmg prof. Everyone gets pist at me, idk why. The model is the most underated shot. I was raping some guy that was ranked 728 in world and he got soo pist. I loved it!
your using it wrong, you have to use steady aim, range, and the specialist streaks.... plus dont aim down the sights, it makes the spread twice as bigger if u dont believe me go try it.....
@iAreRenHo3k no, i dont want you to be sad, but everyone but me uses semi auto shottys, every time i get killed by a loser say 'wow, your sooo good at this game you have to noob tube and camp to make yourself a good player, well guess who'se coming to kick your ass' my gamertag is deathmachine630
This gun f-ing sucks. I hit almost every shot with it, yet I consistently get 2, 3, or sometimes even four or more hitmarkers on ONE person before they're down. I'm close to unlocking damage for it, so I don't know how much better it makes it. Anyway, if they're going to make you wait until level 62 to unlock a shotgun, it should be better than what they made it. Damage proficiency should make it the Jesus gun, not an acceptable alternative to the striker (with or without damage).
@Packer1225 After I unlocked damage I never use range anymore. You will see a huge difference once damage is added to the Models. Its usually a 1 shot but maybe 2 since Infinity Ward put "lag compensation" in the game to cater to the people who try to play online with dial up!
@LobotiCastation yeah, recon is cool with teammates but the guns are so powerful in this game that it's rare you actually shoot someone without eventually killing them yourself. it's worthless in free for all
Funny thing is that this shotgun is suppose to do double the damage per pellet (8 pellets per shot) at close range, and even at long range. I do have to say at long range it works pretty freakin' good. I'm looking forward for unlocking the Damage Proficiency for this, hopefully it works better than with Kick though.
Hahahaha aww fuck. You said they "laugh it off" haha true
Yeah I do agree with some people on these comment.
This game is very stupid because aiming down your sights seems to be the ideal thing to do since it increases accuracy, but I found using steady aim, and hip firing does one hit kills more often.
They need to buff the fucking shotguns, its to the point that a knife has more range and is better off using, I got 3 hit markers with the 87, then got knifed 20 feet away when we were all 4 bars.
They need to remove knives from the game in the first place, they're fucking bullshit.
About the health, i think you had too much in blackops. If someone had the drop of you from behind and starts shooting, you had close to zero chance because it would take so long for your weapon to kill him(if you didnt weild a shotgun).
At least in this game, if you heard someone from behind you could quickly turn around and hope for a headshot.
@iAreRenHo3k is it any better with damage? i want to get gold on this gun because i love using shotguns, but i have only just unlocked it so have no way of knowing how good it is, but i will say its so unconsistant, 1 minute i get 3 or 4 hitmarkers next to the guy next minute i get a longshot 1 hit kill...
@SaraPlaysRS Oh yeah, WAY better. You still need to have good accuracy but it actually becomes a legitimate weapon at that point. In my video using it with the Damage proficiency, it actually puts people down, and it's because I was using it with Steady Aim and Damage.
It's the only gun type in the game that has a 'Damage' proficiency, and it's also the last unlock for it. I get a bunch of hitmarkers in this video because I'm using Range and Dead Silence (instead of Steady Aim).
ergh im trying to get gold model and it is terrible... ive been looking for ages to find a gameplay on youtube with it... your the only person that is willing to use that piece of shit and post on youtube. i thank you
i agree with you although i really like mw3. its really balanced except the specialist package is not that often used, the type95 is almost op and the m16 is very bad compared to it and the shotguns. the model 1887 without damage or range proficiency is okay though in my opinion, with damage or range it could be really good, havent unlocked them though. try the striker if you havent arleady, its the best shotgun in my opinion. the rest of them need a damage boost, then im satisfied :)
@LoneCastaway Yeah, I know what you mean, the Striker is probably the best/easiest one to use, but I like the feel of the 1-hit KOs I get from the 1887s :)
@GhOsT102595 ......there have been moments, where i used the Spas, and I was like, "yeah, now that looks familiar to MW2 prowess"....However, the shotguns are so inconsistant. Most times you will just get hit markers. on three different occasions I had to shot a guy 3 times in the face (it was all that was showing behind the wall) from point blank to 10 yards away. I ended up dying on 2 of those occasions.
@GhOsT102595 The shotguns have surprisingly nice range with Damage, but the fire rates are so slow and unforgiving that you get punished immediately if you miss at all
wow, those hitmarkers are pretty bad. i also agree on the damage ratio. from what i've seen of MW3 it does look like you can't take much damage. however, i think in Black Ops, sometimes it felt like it took too much. i think the perfect spot would be 10-20% more bullet damage than Black Ops.
frankly, your opinion of the shotguns is worthless. you need to use steady aim pro. steady aim tightens the spread of the shotguns dramatically. do not aim down sights. if you aim down sights with steady aim, it will increase the spread back to normal. also, with steady aim pro you can fire much faster after sprinting, which is very important for the shotgun. quickdraw is not necessary.
@colorconnection .....Ive heard that advice before. I use shotguns a lot, because they are my favorite weapons. I have steady aim, grip, and range on my Spas. I've noticed that most of the one shot kills you get are going to be when the enemy is sprinting at you, and you aim in and shoot him in his torso from 5 yards or less. If you shoot them at point blank range in the legs, they are certain to live, and if you have your reticle draped over there face, you aren't always rewarded a headshot.
@Eastra3 apparently aiming down the sights nerfs the range and spread of the shotgun pellets, but that could be wrong. it does feel like it has better range when you fire from the hip
I agree completly in what your saying which is why i refuse to use any shotguns unless they're given a little more damage and i like how you said the game rewards defensive players and punishes rushers
Never aim down the sights. Especially when using steady aim perk. The model is a great shotgun.
ThePreludeDave 4 hours ago
@GeXeL77 Well my MW3 model montage on my page has 200k views... and it's beast, i;d like to see you get 3 moabs in 1 game with this gun, each in about 40 seconds, so smd.
1xPurple 3 days ago
Don't use the sites it makes hitmarkers aim out get one hit kills
Mr1999agent 6 days ago
0:46 is why i stopped using the 87.the gun has monster stats but it doesn't translate into the game.it's almost like it literally has no spread.with this guns numbers firing 8 pellets that should be a OHK even without damage.
osp80 2 weeks ago
spas with extended mags and range=MW2 spas
damuck561 3 weeks ago
i never get a one hit kill with the model's while aiming , but i get it by hip firing.
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GeXeL7 3 weeks ago
Also, The spas is the best 1-shot kill shotgun in MW3 with stead aim, damage and extended mags, gets the same range/kill power or very close to the one as MW2, just not the same spread.
WizardOfPov 3 weeks ago
Black ops can eat a fat one. Mw2 will always be the best cod <3
WizardOfPov 3 weeks ago
I find the model works so much better hip firing, and with steady aim.
TheEsoterist 1 month ago
Woohoo shotgun patch of 1/24/12. All shotguns boosted :) Striker nerfed :D
KevinElectronics 1 month ago
@KevinElectronics Akimbo's buffed. :(
iAreRenHo3k 1 month ago
@iAreRenHo3k akimbos are not buffed, they got nerfed, they gona fire 50% slower, check Robert Bowling tweets, gettin fixed tonight :))
teckon2 1 month ago
@KevinElectronics
ALL SHOTGUNS ARE NERFED. The ext mags glitch is gone = all nerfed. If you are ranking up still, SOME are MARGINALLY better. MOST were untouched.
30x173mm 1 month ago
@KevinElectronics only KSG and USAS got buffed
Andrew6James 3 weeks ago
Dood hipfire more accurate
VanQuiShSparK 1 month ago
How did u not rage and throw ur controller?!?! U hit markered him and he commando lunged u ... :(
Magnumwithtactical 1 month ago
Here's a tip...when you shoot someone with a shotgun dont quickscope them if you know what I mean cus for some reason the shot gets inaccurate and not all the pellets get him....you either hip fire them or be aiming down your sights fully.
efrenj2008 1 month ago
tip on using the model, its better at long range because its ment for longer ranges, its the worst up close, but can get insane one shot kills at range if your accurate enough.
WessRocks1 1 month ago
The only shotgun that needs range is the USAS 12
TheMarc1084 1 month ago
I used the 1887 with the two attachments proficiency just to troll killcams
boxdynomite3 1 month ago
Always use damage on shotguns specially on the model and use specialist thats also really epic. My class : gold model with damage throwing knive and stun grenades, perks: extreme cond. Assassin. Steady aim,, specialist: SoH, scavenger, quickdraw :)
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Cambot72 1 month ago
1. 27 WTF!
EwanMands 1 month ago
@EwanMands Exactly. Don't ever let anyone tell you that Range is better than Damage.
iAreRenHo3k 1 month ago 3
I use 1887 only and hardcore and it hit hard
stenlee007 1 month ago
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ClemsonCraze 1 month ago
prefer this shotgun over all the others just because well..it's pretty bad, the striker is far to easy to get kills with which is why i never use it
mynamebeginswithone 1 month ago
1. Yes Shotguns are generally bad. But either use the Striker or get Damage and Extended mags on the Model 1887.. Never aim down sights on a shotgun btw.
2. The game rewards people who play the objective. So you did the right thing running around putting your ass on the line for your team. Campers will be eliminated as soon as IW fix the idiotic Assassin perk or more players wise up and use recon perk or support streaks.
3. You don't get 'punished severely' for a mistake. You just die :/
Tommybotham 1 month ago
@Tommybotham
No attachments on the Model 1887 were you thinking Spas 12? I think striker is noob shotgun basically auto Striker+Range/Damage+Extended Magz=Nooby easy kills. I never used Striker myself, I just know that combo equals easy kills.
Spas 12 and Model 1887 take more skill to use but when you unlock damage everything is great.
gravityhammer25 1 month ago
@gravityhammer25 Yeah I have the Striker maxed out and I go absolutely crazy with it using Specialist package and GLM as a secondary. But it doesn't take skill to use.
I watched Terminator 2 last night.. I never realised Arnold was using an 1887 in that movie. So fuck the Striker, I'm gonna level up my 1887 and become a badass player :D
I'll be getting damage and extended mags upgrade, but what perks do you suggest?
Tommybotham 1 month ago
@Tommybotham
I usually have extreme conditioning pro, assassin pro for the element of surprise, and steady aim pro for quick hip fire. But Blind Eye can let you run around when you have enemy air support and Dead Silence can let you sneak up behind people fast. I think hip fire needs steady aim for longer ranges and hip fire is the only way to get consistent 1 hit kills sometimes u get lucky ADS.
gravityhammer25 1 month ago
@gravityhammer25 Currently leveled my 1887 to 10 I think.. This gun is fucking retarded. All I get is hit markers sometimes. Few games I started out owning. Literally one shotting. Then I get a string of games where I hit someone point blank and I get a hit marker. Gun is soo inconsistent its making me cry. I wanna keep using it because its such a good feeling when you shoot someone with it, but its inconsistently is really turning me off. I might have to use your perk setup
Tommybotham 1 month ago
@Tommybotham
It is hell to get to damage but the grind is worth it. It is not a consistent gun more of a novelty. I feel IW should buff the 1887 and give it more damage its supposed to be strongest shotgun but it has no more power then the Spas 12.
What really is messed up is 2 Attachments Proficiency for Model 1887 a gun with no attachments...... am I being trolled by IW??
gravityhammer25 1 month ago
@Tommybotham Same shit with me. I was cruising at the start, until I was at about level 10, hitmarkers started, at point blank range nonetheless. Then it got better through level 15-22, then sucked again until about 28-29. Now that it's full proficiency, it's hitmarker city again, with damage, on hardcore.
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@Tommybotham wouldn't it make sense to camp it out in TDM and get a good KD in order to win, trust me dude, even if assassin perk is completely removed, there will still be campers, mw3 is so inconsistent that the only way to get a good KD is to camp, sad truth. shout outs to IW for making a shitty game. rushing is also punished by the garbage spawn in mw3, it's ridiculous how bad they are.
phoenix9909 1 month ago
I completely disagree in that MW3 is still a rusher's paradise; small maps and close spawns make it fairly difficult to play defensively unless either your team actually plays as a team (very rare in COD) or the other team is full of scrubs. I do agree, though, that the shottys are frustrating at low proficiencies.
battheman777 1 month ago
When I use the model 1887 or any shot guns In MW3 I never aim down sights I fire from the hip
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nelsonk355 1 month ago
God every cod shotguns are such crap. Why do they even bother putting them in the game if they're gonna be this bad. The 1887 was perfect in mw2. It was akimbo that overpowered it. Now they nerfed the absolute shit out of it
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k3v1nfbr 2 months ago
I would say the only shotgun you ADS with would be the SPAS-12. But thats more like a "quickscope" then a hard ADS.
StrokeHerGently 2 months ago
I agree with you 100% man. MW3 is simply not a game for rushers. I went back to black ops.
balthazar500 2 months ago
You deserve a medal for winning a FFA with the model, the guns straight up garbage without damage
smandic 2 months ago
I was playing hardcore TDM yesterday with the 1887, I was getting goddamn hitmarkers at point blank range. But of course at long range it was a 1 hit kill. On fucking hardcore.
55LanceBriggs 2 months ago
cant wait to get this game...yes thats right ill be a christmas noob
catnipfever22 2 months ago
What really annoys me with the 1887 and spas 12 is the time it takes to out a new shell in the chamber. They should have made it so that Sleight of hand reduces the "pump" time. Cause in most situations a hit marker means you are fucked cause you´ll be dead in between pumps. Also if they remove the extended mags/more pellets thing, activision are idiots. It is the only thing that makes shotguns usable
TomTrix99 2 months ago
You would say they weren't compared to Akimbo G18's or the Grenade Launcher? You still had to flip them, giving an enemy plenty of time killing you off.
PSIII187 2 months ago
its a damn good thing theres no attachments for this gun cuz its gay and the akmbo mw2 ones looked retarded like ur running with sticks in ur hands smh...also why wud anyone want to use a 1887 gun in a game set in 2016...smfh
mikeymanCOD 2 months ago
Fucking Olympia is better than all the shotguns in mw3 - the striker
downwithCAPS 2 months ago
do u prefer range or damage?
aqwNotxdragon24 2 months ago
@aqwNotxdragon24
i wanna know 2 and why
Vidfucker 2 months ago
@aqwNotxdragon24 @Vidfucker Damage puts people down far more reliably. The 1887 needs to be a 1-hit KO and that's what Damage does for it.
I find it funny that I get all these questions about Range versus Damage on this video, an FFA where I go 30-16 and get horrendous hitmarkers, but there's no questions at all about Range on my 30-5 FFA with the 1887/Damage combo, where I totally rape face. It's never once crossed my mind to go back to Range since I unlocked Damage.
iAreRenHo3k 2 months ago 3
@iAreRenHo3k i seem to get more 1-hit kills when hip firing.
TheGreatShaunO 2 months ago
i hear they're gonna patch the extended magazine for the shotguns, its really a slap in the face since shotguns suck in general but for them to take the only advantage we have away is sickening
TOXICWARBRINGER 2 months ago 2
can u get them akimbo
premzay101 2 months ago
@premzay101 No. In MW3 the 1887 has no attachments.
MezzoForteAnonymousX 2 months ago
this gun is beast for me. i dont know why i do so well with this rifle but ump45 and the scar, i suck royally with while most people love those guns, go figure.
bryan1282 2 months ago
I got confused with your view on the health system. First of all let me say nice work on the video and using one of my fave weapons. As for the health I feel its ridiculously low! There is absolutely NO ROOM for error. If you see red on your screen that you are being shot just start pressing the respawn key. Im not new to FPS, just mw3. Camping has been and always will be a part of any type of FPS and its not fair to call campers noobs.1.You can also camp2.They arent hard to kill usually.
vamtheanomaly 2 months ago
Hey man great video. I totally agree with your view on MW3. I feel it promotes and rewards corner camping hardcore. I've been using the model 1887 latelty also just to mix it up a bit. The hitmarkers are ridiculous and hopefully they fix it. I'm only level 19 with it so far. I like using it because you know you really deserve the kills you get with it, and it's a slap in the face for the other try-hards.
MarineAgainstTerror 2 months ago
there's no akimbo 4 this one right?
kddv1993 2 months ago
@kddv1993 sadly, no
MESSI10BARCAfan 2 months ago
too all those using the 1887's; It is worth the grind to get the damage proficiency, it makes this shotgun 175% better. i have never raged so much in my life gettin my model to 28, but now that i have the damage proficiency im a much more peaceful person.
jacesaces15 2 months ago
@jacesaces15 yess same here
MESSI10BARCAfan 2 months ago
@EuY77; he wasn't using steady aim as his third in this video.
Juggernaut571 2 months ago
I use steady aim with range and I seem to be getting less hitmarkers than u
EuY77 2 months ago
if they make it have 200 health bring back old school mode
348rocky 2 months ago
I feel your pain man I am using the model right now. I currently have the range proficiency, I have been getting so many hit markers and it just pisses me off. When i shoot a guy and i get a hit marker and they just kill. Im trying so hard to get the gold camo for the gun and the damage proficiency but it is just hard getting all those kills. Anyways I agree what you said 100% on your commentary and keep up the good work man.
kitchenwashere 2 months ago
I use this gun only on hardcore,, it doesn't work on the standard playlist.. on hardcore, if you shoot someone with the model 1887 they will die. on standard playlist it takes like 3 shots.
j8kharr1s 2 months ago
U got 16 hitmarkers... Shotguns are underpowerd
xXLiLKennyXx 2 months ago
I got 2500 Kills Title with it =) also only need 200 more headshots to get 1000 headshot title ^.^
IMABOMBERMAN 2 months ago
@IMABOMBERMAN damn, nice one bro! is there a place where i can see what those look like? i only just got 200 headshots, you can't be far from 5,000 kills with that thing
iAreRenHo3k 2 months ago
RIP Akimbo Model 1887s. Complainers had to ruin something that wasn't even imbalanced.
PSIII187 2 months ago
@PSIII187 i miss the prepatch akimbo 1887's very dearly. I loved running around with those in mw2
iAreRenHo3k 2 months ago 4
@iAreRenHo3k
For sure.
PSIII187 2 months ago
@PSIII187 ...you call something that can OHK from over 20 metres away with a large hitbox and the ability to be akimboed not imbalanced?
brainwasher9876 2 months ago
@PSIII187
they were fair when you had to have bling. you could reload cancel so the reloading was dangerous
horrorlover927 2 months ago
@PSIII187 What game were you playing? They were CLEARLY overpowered.
pcgamer010 2 months ago
SHOTGUN TIP
Don't aim down sights. Aim down the sights and the buckshot spread widens considerably. You will land much more consistent one-shot kills if you hip fire.
Again, its best to hip fire the shotguns and trust me, they are 100% better. Just make sure you line up your crosshairs well. You have to be precise especially when using a pump action shotgun.
Hope this helps :)
ItZDaVo 2 months ago
@ItZDaVo thanks
iAreRenHo3k 2 months ago
@ItZDaVo if you use steady aim, that is. At least, it was the case for previous call of duties.
brainwasher9876 2 months ago
@ItZDaVo Proof/source? I don't think that has been true since CoD 4. I definitely get more one shot kills with the SPAS 12 and KSG 12 if I aim down the sights. This is especially apparent when you put the silencer on those guns; you'll get nothing but hitmarkers unless you ADS.
The whole point of aiming down sights with the shotguns is that it tightens the spread. It would be completely counter intuitive for the opposite to be true.
alphadev 2 months ago
@ItZDaVo Aiming down the sights decreases the spread. What the hell is wrong with you?
Alteonify 2 months ago
@Alteonify idiot it makes it wider
jmoak14 2 months ago
@ItZDaVo Incorrect...that was only in MW2. In Black Ops and MW3, ADS with shotgun tightens spread.
balthazar500 2 months ago
@ItZDaVo should i use steady aim?
markman090 2 months ago
Use shotguns in HC! Core suck balls. I've used this proficiency plenty but I find the damage can be better to have because it minimizes chances of hit markers so stick with damage. I hate how there's no fucking akimbos, it's ridiculous! Is there anyone else that feels my pain?
Akimbo1887s 2 months ago
lol head glitching? shoot better and use impact if you have a problem
supermanofmen 2 months ago
PULL OUT A MODEL THEN REPEATEDLY KEEP PRESSING Y FAST IT LOOKS LIKE UR JACKING OFF U UGLY VANGINA BOOBIE GIRL
NerdSwaggerAbz 2 months ago
This gun is hard 2 use (at least fur me it is) so when I'm 10th prestige imma use a prestige token 2 unlock this and use it until I unlock range because I want a challenge. I may fuck up my kd but I dont care
mellowjello28 3 months ago
Only god can explain to me why they would make it so you need to put 10 hours into the shotguns just to make them ok.
They are freaking primaries now! I mean c'mon!
moodydoyle 3 months ago
@iAreRenHo3k, u should try to jump toward them and like prone, pop shot with the model 1887 it helps soo much , we should play man , xbl
AaronNbK1 3 months ago
just found another commentator to watch woop!
mrcallum992 3 months ago
@mrcallum992 thumbs up! i hope you don't unsub off my rage videos
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
I luv the model, i go 4-0 in the first round of search and destroy w/ dmg prof. Everyone gets pist at me, idk why. The model is the most underated shot. I was raping some guy that was ranked 728 in world and he got soo pist. I loved it!
lronHide13 3 months ago
@lronHide13 nice, i would think that'd be pretty tough to pull off
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
This gun is weird. I get kills long distances away in one shot, but it take 2 or more at close range. WTF?
TheDieHard777 3 months ago
@TheDieHard777 that shit happens to me a lot less now that i have damage proficiency and steady aim combo'ed together
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
your using it wrong, you have to use steady aim, range, and the specialist streaks.... plus dont aim down the sights, it makes the spread twice as bigger if u dont believe me go try it.....
krazaekid99 3 months ago
@krazaekid99 yeah, i figured that out after i recorded this video
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
" I rush extremely hard man" that's what she said lol
meEVIL1000 3 months ago
@meEVIL1000 ;]
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
The ksg 12 is pump action not semi auto
ThreeFreeTrees 3 months ago
@ThreeFreeTrees ah, i must have been thinking of another gun then
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
how many times do you need to say "man" to get a point across, man?
brainwasher9876 3 months ago
@brainwasher9876 man, like, i don't know man
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
ksg 12 ftw :P
7techno7ful 3 months ago
@7techno7ful semiauto shotguns are for noobs
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago 10
@iAreRenHo3k T_T
7techno7ful 3 months ago
@7techno7ful you are making me le sad
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
@iAreRenHo3k no, i dont want you to be sad, but everyone but me uses semi auto shottys, every time i get killed by a loser say 'wow, your sooo good at this game you have to noob tube and camp to make yourself a good player, well guess who'se coming to kick your ass' my gamertag is deathmachine630
7techno7ful 3 months ago
@iAreRenHo3k No! The pump action/lever action shotguns just suck sweaty balls. You're a noob if you think otherwise.
ObviouslyOutplayed95 2 months ago
@ObviouslyOutplayed95 :P
iAreRenHo3k 2 months ago
@iAreRenHo3k thats why i use the aa-12 :)
kamakaziiee96 2 months ago
they need to improve the shottys in this game. mad hitmarkers with them
GeneralKillswitch 3 months ago
@GeneralKillswitch yeah, i know what you mean
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
In core game modes, this gun is a lever-action marshmallow rifle.
ThaRyeGuy 3 months ago
@ThaRyeGuy Lol
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
This gun f-ing sucks. I hit almost every shot with it, yet I consistently get 2, 3, or sometimes even four or more hitmarkers on ONE person before they're down. I'm close to unlocking damage for it, so I don't know how much better it makes it. Anyway, if they're going to make you wait until level 62 to unlock a shotgun, it should be better than what they made it. Damage proficiency should make it the Jesus gun, not an acceptable alternative to the striker (with or without damage).
Packer1225 3 months ago
@Packer1225 Damage makes it roughly a gazillion times more effective... make sure you use it with Steady Aim, that's extremely important
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
@Packer1225 it's still fun to use though, but yeah if you're looking for a good gun go with the pp90 or type95
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
@Packer1225 After I unlocked damage I never use range anymore. You will see a huge difference once damage is added to the Models. Its usually a 1 shot but maybe 2 since Infinity Ward put "lag compensation" in the game to cater to the people who try to play online with dial up!
JackieChiles007 2 months ago
Ever though about using recon instead of extreme conditioning?
LobotiCastation 3 months ago
@LobotiCastation yeah, recon is cool with teammates but the guns are so powerful in this game that it's rare you actually shoot someone without eventually killing them yourself. it's worthless in free for all
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
Are there any attachments for it?
IIZTHEULTIMATE 3 months ago
@IIZTHEULTIMATE nope
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
Funny thing is that this shotgun is suppose to do double the damage per pellet (8 pellets per shot) at close range, and even at long range. I do have to say at long range it works pretty freakin' good. I'm looking forward for unlocking the Damage Proficiency for this, hopefully it works better than with Kick though.
Super2bAs 3 months ago
@Super2bAs yeah
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
Hahahaha aww fuck. You said they "laugh it off" haha true
Yeah I do agree with some people on these comment.
This game is very stupid because aiming down your sights seems to be the ideal thing to do since it increases accuracy, but I found using steady aim, and hip firing does one hit kills more often.
Shotguns need a huge fukin buff.
BboyTzilla 3 months ago
shotguns were recently patched so they do more damage. tried it myself and they are now somewhat usable.
KcCyGaming 3 months ago
ive found that this is a beast with steady aim and SoH
MadBum1 3 months ago
They need to buff the fucking shotguns, its to the point that a knife has more range and is better off using, I got 3 hit markers with the 87, then got knifed 20 feet away when we were all 4 bars.
They need to remove knives from the game in the first place, they're fucking bullshit.
bonebreakerguy 3 months ago
Finally got my damamge prof for my model :3 going for gold!!!!
SplatSSs 3 months ago
About the health, i think you had too much in blackops. If someone had the drop of you from behind and starts shooting, you had close to zero chance because it would take so long for your weapon to kill him(if you didnt weild a shotgun).
At least in this game, if you heard someone from behind you could quickly turn around and hope for a headshot.
Thats what i felt when playing the game :
Emptyssify 3 months ago
i recommend this class for ALL of the shotguns, sleight of hand, assassin or blast shield, and steady aim. range or damage proficiency
ThePaladin1us 3 months ago
is this with damage proficiency or no?
cam94z28 3 months ago
@cam94z28 Check the video title bro. It's with the Range proficiency, that's why it's a hitmarker machine
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
@iAreRenHo3k is it any better with damage? i want to get gold on this gun because i love using shotguns, but i have only just unlocked it so have no way of knowing how good it is, but i will say its so unconsistant, 1 minute i get 3 or 4 hitmarkers next to the guy next minute i get a longshot 1 hit kill...
SaraPlaysRS 3 months ago
@SaraPlaysRS Oh yeah, WAY better. You still need to have good accuracy but it actually becomes a legitimate weapon at that point. In my video using it with the Damage proficiency, it actually puts people down, and it's because I was using it with Steady Aim and Damage.
It's the only gun type in the game that has a 'Damage' proficiency, and it's also the last unlock for it. I get a bunch of hitmarkers in this video because I'm using Range and Dead Silence (instead of Steady Aim).
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I love your videos, but i hate how many times you say like and man lol.
tutsin 3 months ago
I'm really disappointed with the model and spas-12 ... Fucking shotguns
ni2s014 3 months ago
@ni2s014 yeah, I know what you mean
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
ergh im trying to get gold model and it is terrible... ive been looking for ages to find a gameplay on youtube with it... your the only person that is willing to use that piece of shit and post on youtube. i thank you
StackAttacK1234 3 months ago
@StackAttacK1234 It's a long grind until you get the Damage proficiency, only then is the Model 1887 useful at all.
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
yea i dont get how they can make the shottys so weak...when in real life shotguns are devastating
jarjarsofine69 3 months ago
@jarjarsofine69 Lol, yeah.
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
Shotguns are realy bad but you should use steady aim, also damage prophencie is makes them kind of good.
Try not to say ''like'' so much though
martijnbmxgod 3 months ago
@martijnbmxgod Thanks for the advice
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
the shottys are pretty badly made in this game. they got them all wrong.....
the 1887 should be hammerfired when holding down the trigger, basically making it shoot about as fast as the striker.
the spas in real life is full auto with a pump action for stuff like rocksalt and other special rounds.
and they should fire across rooms efforlessly as in real life yet again they can kill up to a range of almost 200 feet.....
redrhyn0 3 months ago
@redrhyn0 Yeah, shotguns are tools of major destruction in real life
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
i agree with you although i really like mw3. its really balanced except the specialist package is not that often used, the type95 is almost op and the m16 is very bad compared to it and the shotguns. the model 1887 without damage or range proficiency is okay though in my opinion, with damage or range it could be really good, havent unlocked them though. try the striker if you havent arleady, its the best shotgun in my opinion. the rest of them need a damage boost, then im satisfied :)
LoneCastaway 3 months ago
@LoneCastaway Yeah, I know what you mean, the Striker is probably the best/easiest one to use, but I like the feel of the 1-hit KOs I get from the 1887s :)
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
@iAreRenHo3k ohh yes! im having a hell of a hard time using the ksg12 at the moment, oh gawwd :D
this thing is a hitmarker-machine. but i heard with damage its good and im trying to get this now.
LoneCastaway 3 months ago
@LoneCastaway you just gotta stick with it until you get the damage proficiency :)
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
with steady aim, if you hit someone right on it has the old range mw2 had when it first came out
GhOsT102595 3 months ago
@GhOsT102595 ......there have been moments, where i used the Spas, and I was like, "yeah, now that looks familiar to MW2 prowess"....However, the shotguns are so inconsistant. Most times you will just get hit markers. on three different occasions I had to shot a guy 3 times in the face (it was all that was showing behind the wall) from point blank to 10 yards away. I ended up dying on 2 of those occasions.
Eastra3 3 months ago
@GhOsT102595 The shotguns have surprisingly nice range with Damage, but the fire rates are so slow and unforgiving that you get punished immediately if you miss at all
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
do the models still have akimbo in mw3?
MrTheBackstabber 3 months ago
@MrTheBackstabber nope, sure don't man
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
@ForeverWithoutDesire I wish I'd spent more time on the RDR multiplayer. That game was a lot of fun
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
@AmzLNDN word
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
wow, those hitmarkers are pretty bad. i also agree on the damage ratio. from what i've seen of MW3 it does look like you can't take much damage. however, i think in Black Ops, sometimes it felt like it took too much. i think the perfect spot would be 10-20% more bullet damage than Black Ops.
Voohoo 3 months ago
@Voohoo Oh yeah, just brutal how many kills I should have had versus what I actually ended up with. I was on target pretty much the whole game
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
frankly, your opinion of the shotguns is worthless. you need to use steady aim pro. steady aim tightens the spread of the shotguns dramatically. do not aim down sights. if you aim down sights with steady aim, it will increase the spread back to normal. also, with steady aim pro you can fire much faster after sprinting, which is very important for the shotgun. quickdraw is not necessary.
colorconnection 3 months ago 2
@colorconnection yep, you were absolutely right here. steady aim makes all the difference in the world.
I use quickdraw because I fucking HATE slow grenade throws
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
@colorconnection .....Ive heard that advice before. I use shotguns a lot, because they are my favorite weapons. I have steady aim, grip, and range on my Spas. I've noticed that most of the one shot kills you get are going to be when the enemy is sprinting at you, and you aim in and shoot him in his torso from 5 yards or less. If you shoot them at point blank range in the legs, they are certain to live, and if you have your reticle draped over there face, you aren't always rewarded a headshot.
Eastra3 3 months ago
@Eastra3 apparently aiming down the sights nerfs the range and spread of the shotgun pellets, but that could be wrong. it does feel like it has better range when you fire from the hip
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
Agree :D
lanzcline710 3 months ago
I agree completly in what your saying which is why i refuse to use any shotguns unless they're given a little more damage and i like how you said the game rewards defensive players and punishes rushers
heineken24oz 3 months ago
@heineken24oz they have their place, like on Seatown and Underground, etc.
iAreRenHo3k 3 months ago
Totally agree. Although I thought that Black