TP's can form as a result of an underlying mechanical problem (e.g., bulging disc, position jt fault, other); U resolve this, TP typically resolves. He says to be sure not to put pressure on vertebrae; just lying prone puts pressure on them, adding an elbow causes ext in spine; may help, may hurt dependg upon problem. I was a lic MT, I didn't know what it was I didn't know. I was going to teach for MT people; until I went to PT school & learned what it was I did not know that I did not know
If you have LBP, you don't start w/muscles. The1st needed approach is to rule out the spinal mechanics, you need a McKenzie/Mulligan trained physical therapist for this. Also, whenever you push paraspinally, you are affecting spinal joints which can be good or bad depending upon what is found via the McKenzie evaluation. Massage can be helpful for relaxation after the main issues have been addressed. This is why prof schools exist to train medical pros.
@WingThaiJ is it just me or in all of his vids he gets to touch hot girls? or atleast alright lookin girls... iv been told by many people that i give a good shoulder message and back message never thought of taking it into a career but umm i might if i get to touch all these hot girls =p
@NickThePumpPlaya I take it your are being sarcastic about the 'Hot Girls' correct? LOL Massage therapists should be happy giving massage and not trying to be medical practitioners. They attend these seminars and think they've learned something no one else knows, yet haven't had actual medical school training. I think massage can be great, but just keep to massage and stop trying to treat medical conditions.
@WingThaiJ Massage therapist should stop treating medical conditions ? Clients come before the massage they can barely lift their arms or have difficulty walking with their back straight as if they're 90 years old and then they come out after the massage walking like they're 20 years old again. And you're telling us that they should go see a doctor that will give them a pill that will do nothing to help them? Good doctors will tell them to go see a massage therapist...
I was trained as a Massage Therapist, I was licensed in florida. There r techniques that r useful, the problem is that they are taught 'theories' as though factual. Additionally, when u give a paraspinal massage, u r not just effecting soft tissues , there are joints down there & discs. Sometimes this pressure can help, sometimes it can make it worse. Massage is a good thing; but it should NOT be the 1st approach w/someone in pain. Unfortunately MD's often don't have time to properly eval
(contd)..M.D., don't typically have time to do full ortho eval. For example, patients come in w/either inflammatory process, mechanical disorder or combo of both.DPT's for ex, eval to determine potential for each; once this is discovered, most appropriate approach is used, not automatically massaging soft tissues. 1 can get rid of mech problems w/a jt mob a la Mulligan procedures; once that is resolved mechanically, then sure massage is great as adjunct. It should not b 1st approach.
@bluespiralfilms I know what you learn, I went through the MT school, I went through Paul St. John, etc.. etc.. etc.. I use some of the tech not for the reasons that they taught and not for the status of conditions as taught.
@bluespiralfilms No, you get them after the mechanical condition has been resolved. Studies have shown McK. practitioners have over 80% identification of SIGNIFICANT MRI find'gs involving bulging discs, location and level. I just told a person the exact location of an annular tear which was inflamed. I told him that I would bet on it; sure enough, that is exactly what it was. Now, massage can feel good, I'm fine with that, however, it's not going to address is structural mechanical problem.
@bluespiralfilms Also, are you a victim of the 'bad pill' philosophy? While there are oscillatory procedures which in theory (notice how I use the term theory as many massage gurus fail to do) which acidic chemistry 'may' become more alkaline, however, even if true in some cases, in the vast majority of inflammatory processes, that inflammation needs to be resolved. There are times when 'the pill' is exactly what the person needs, even an injection; contrary to what religious believers believe
I think the kidneys are pretty safe if you stay in the lumbar region. They are superior to Quadratus Lumborum. They are at the level of T11 to T12. The Right one is only slightly Inferior due to the orientation of the Liver. but still higher The Superior Attachment of QL.
Who here is a massage therapist?
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
TP's can form as a result of an underlying mechanical problem (e.g., bulging disc, position jt fault, other); U resolve this, TP typically resolves. He says to be sure not to put pressure on vertebrae; just lying prone puts pressure on them, adding an elbow causes ext in spine; may help, may hurt dependg upon problem. I was a lic MT, I didn't know what it was I didn't know. I was going to teach for MT people; until I went to PT school & learned what it was I did not know that I did not know
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
If you have LBP, you don't start w/muscles. The1st needed approach is to rule out the spinal mechanics, you need a McKenzie/Mulligan trained physical therapist for this. Also, whenever you push paraspinally, you are affecting spinal joints which can be good or bad depending upon what is found via the McKenzie evaluation. Massage can be helpful for relaxation after the main issues have been addressed. This is why prof schools exist to train medical pros.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ is it just me or in all of his vids he gets to touch hot girls? or atleast alright lookin girls... iv been told by many people that i give a good shoulder message and back message never thought of taking it into a career but umm i might if i get to touch all these hot girls =p
NickThePumpPlaya 1 year ago
@NickThePumpPlaya I take it your are being sarcastic about the 'Hot Girls' correct? LOL Massage therapists should be happy giving massage and not trying to be medical practitioners. They attend these seminars and think they've learned something no one else knows, yet haven't had actual medical school training. I think massage can be great, but just keep to massage and stop trying to treat medical conditions.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ naw man im sure that he gets to touch hot girls sure not all are hot but w/e and i never said anything about medical conditions.
NickThePumpPlaya 1 year ago
@WingThaiJ Massage therapist should stop treating medical conditions ? Clients come before the massage they can barely lift their arms or have difficulty walking with their back straight as if they're 90 years old and then they come out after the massage walking like they're 20 years old again. And you're telling us that they should go see a doctor that will give them a pill that will do nothing to help them? Good doctors will tell them to go see a massage therapist...
bluespiralfilms 1 year ago 11
I was trained as a Massage Therapist, I was licensed in florida. There r techniques that r useful, the problem is that they are taught 'theories' as though factual. Additionally, when u give a paraspinal massage, u r not just effecting soft tissues , there are joints down there & discs. Sometimes this pressure can help, sometimes it can make it worse. Massage is a good thing; but it should NOT be the 1st approach w/someone in pain. Unfortunately MD's often don't have time to properly eval
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
(contd)..M.D., don't typically have time to do full ortho eval. For example, patients come in w/either inflammatory process, mechanical disorder or combo of both.DPT's for ex, eval to determine potential for each; once this is discovered, most appropriate approach is used, not automatically massaging soft tissues. 1 can get rid of mech problems w/a jt mob a la Mulligan procedures; once that is resolved mechanically, then sure massage is great as adjunct. It should not b 1st approach.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@bluespiralfilms I know what you learn, I went through the MT school, I went through Paul St. John, etc.. etc.. etc.. I use some of the tech not for the reasons that they taught and not for the status of conditions as taught.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@bluespiralfilms No, you get them after the mechanical condition has been resolved. Studies have shown McK. practitioners have over 80% identification of SIGNIFICANT MRI find'gs involving bulging discs, location and level. I just told a person the exact location of an annular tear which was inflamed. I told him that I would bet on it; sure enough, that is exactly what it was. Now, massage can feel good, I'm fine with that, however, it's not going to address is structural mechanical problem.
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
@bluespiralfilms Also, are you a victim of the 'bad pill' philosophy? While there are oscillatory procedures which in theory (notice how I use the term theory as many massage gurus fail to do) which acidic chemistry 'may' become more alkaline, however, even if true in some cases, in the vast majority of inflammatory processes, that inflammation needs to be resolved. There are times when 'the pill' is exactly what the person needs, even an injection; contrary to what religious believers believe
WingThaiJ 1 year ago
I think the kidneys are pretty safe if you stay in the lumbar region. They are superior to Quadratus Lumborum. They are at the level of T11 to T12. The Right one is only slightly Inferior due to the orientation of the Liver. but still higher The Superior Attachment of QL.
mattdebat 2 years ago
@mattdebat yup.
philipee32 1 year ago
Nice. Very relevant to my exam :)
SunnyG33Z 2 years ago 6
@SunnyG33Z I need a brain like your............
67Zaka 1 month ago