@izar1234 Exactly !!! There are those who just don;t want to admit that someone is peerless- Whether in sports, acting, dancing, speaking, singing etc-- They will argue for the sake of argument - Warren was a giant The students and professionals alike from the time [and even today] would agree with you --He is the standard -Warren I'm sure was aware of this!
He is unbelievable. His voice is dark, with a buzz... freedom to do what he wanted dynamically, so he is so expressive, ... a very musical man. He is the King among baritones.
Warren's voice with its perfect rich baritone color is a unique natural phenomenon, before you even consider technique. One of my favorite voices. It's unfair to compare him to other baritones except in terms of execution and interpretation.
I think Macneil is unsurpassed on this particular aria, but Warren is fantastic as well. primobaritono, could you tell me where you got this recording? I'd like a copy!
@ShawDAMAN Macneil was the king of the wobble !! There is a vocal vibration which falls within the acceptability of any voice where vibrato is concerned - To fast a tremolo- too slow a wobble-- Macneil faiiled -His was too slow-These are the scientific facts that lab tests [and one's ears] will show -Yes he had range and power --But at the cost of a perfectly produced voice. Even Milnes, who sang flat more often than not had his moments!! Just listen to Warren Tibbett and Merrill
@redgrapeskins I know the problem of which you speak regarding macneil but early in his career he was fine. you may have heard them already, I think his prime performances of this were superb... one is posted on youtube by mrcafiero and it will knock your socks off. I don't doubt that Warren had a more healthy technique though as well as the others you mention.
@ShawDAMAN I am sometimes too hard on Cornell --he had a thrilling top and power to spare --- I listened to him quite often during the Saturday boadcasts- He was a staple in his roles as Warren was - He stayed on pitch and always gave 110% as Warren did - McNeil was naturally dramatic in his approach and this stirred his admirers - To me his voice sounded older earlier than it should have [ unlike Pavarotti]-I will listen to those early McNeil performances
@redgrapeskins Actually, I think MacNeil's wobble problems have been exaggerated. Yep, he had it from time to time, no doubt about it. But go through his YouTube vids and you won't hear it as omnipresent, even in some performances from the 1970s and early 80s (and he was born in 1922). We should also note that NO singer, even the great ones, has ever been PERFECT that we know of. Each has had some faults, which must be granted when we assess them.
Horostovsky is a very good baritone and one of the best we have right now. Warren is a legend- with one of the greatest operatic voices of all times. Horostovsky is just not in that class- but nobody right now is. I still do enjoy hearing him- but I am grateful we have these recordings of Warren since I was not around when he was singing
Thank you for your pertinent comments ! The singer mentioned in other comments has a small voice which project well (mostly in records). Warren has not only a great voice (as good as Hans Hotter in a complete different repertoire) but has musicality. He knows what personage he needs to be as well as understanding each word he sings.Thank you once again for your comments.
El Maestro Warren tuvo la muerte que todo cantante de opera hubiese querido ... En el escenario , en una Funcion de La fuerza del destino de verdi , paradogicamente despues de haber cantado el Aria Morir Tremenda Cosa ... Urna fatal .
dull and what's that top note all about? bet Callas would have a thing to say about that.
mazzone1 1 month ago
Wunderbar!
Fasolt100 3 months ago in playlist L'anima ho stanca
@julesrod totally agree my friend! I totally agree!
Scarpia90 11 months ago
MacN was a good second, but Warren was the KING & has not been approached as Rigoletto 50 years after his death!
DonPaolissimo 1 year ago
MacN was a good second, but Warren was the KING & has not been approached as Rigoletts 50 years after his death!
DonPaolissimo 1 year ago
@izar1234 Exactly !!! There are those who just don;t want to admit that someone is peerless- Whether in sports, acting, dancing, speaking, singing etc-- They will argue for the sake of argument - Warren was a giant The students and professionals alike from the time [and even today] would agree with you --He is the standard -Warren I'm sure was aware of this!
redgrapeskins 1 year ago
He is unbelievable. His voice is dark, with a buzz... freedom to do what he wanted dynamically, so he is so expressive, ... a very musical man. He is the King among baritones.
kgarmaker123 1 year ago
Warren's voice with its perfect rich baritone color is a unique natural phenomenon, before you even consider technique. One of my favorite voices. It's unfair to compare him to other baritones except in terms of execution and interpretation.
sgmrmp 1 year ago
I think Macneil is unsurpassed on this particular aria, but Warren is fantastic as well. primobaritono, could you tell me where you got this recording? I'd like a copy!
ShawDAMAN 2 years ago
@ShawDAMAN Macneil was the king of the wobble !! There is a vocal vibration which falls within the acceptability of any voice where vibrato is concerned - To fast a tremolo- too slow a wobble-- Macneil faiiled -His was too slow-These are the scientific facts that lab tests [and one's ears] will show -Yes he had range and power --But at the cost of a perfectly produced voice. Even Milnes, who sang flat more often than not had his moments!! Just listen to Warren Tibbett and Merrill
redgrapeskins 1 year ago
@redgrapeskins I know the problem of which you speak regarding macneil but early in his career he was fine. you may have heard them already, I think his prime performances of this were superb... one is posted on youtube by mrcafiero and it will knock your socks off. I don't doubt that Warren had a more healthy technique though as well as the others you mention.
ShawDAMAN 1 year ago
@ShawDAMAN I am sometimes too hard on Cornell --he had a thrilling top and power to spare --- I listened to him quite often during the Saturday boadcasts- He was a staple in his roles as Warren was - He stayed on pitch and always gave 110% as Warren did - McNeil was naturally dramatic in his approach and this stirred his admirers - To me his voice sounded older earlier than it should have [ unlike Pavarotti]-I will listen to those early McNeil performances
redgrapeskins 1 year ago
@redgrapeskins Actually, I think MacNeil's wobble problems have been exaggerated. Yep, he had it from time to time, no doubt about it. But go through his YouTube vids and you won't hear it as omnipresent, even in some performances from the 1970s and early 80s (and he was born in 1922). We should also note that NO singer, even the great ones, has ever been PERFECT that we know of. Each has had some faults, which must be granted when we assess them.
stevevandien 8 months ago
Listen to Cappuccilli sing this (also on YouTube). He has much lighter a voice. But they sang the same repertoire..!
erne3BT 2 years ago
Absolutely fantastic. Very impressive :)
flaze3 2 years ago
Apparently he's pretty quiet.
flaze3 2 years ago
um dos maiores baritonos de sempre
spock445 2 years ago 2
Horostovsky is a very good baritone and one of the best we have right now. Warren is a legend- with one of the greatest operatic voices of all times. Horostovsky is just not in that class- but nobody right now is. I still do enjoy hearing him- but I am grateful we have these recordings of Warren since I was not around when he was singing
operadoc 3 years ago
Hvorostovsky is a great baritone!
operafan85 3 years ago
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lpvcrcd 3 years ago
Thank you for your pertinent comments ! The singer mentioned in other comments has a small voice which project well (mostly in records). Warren has not only a great voice (as good as Hans Hotter in a complete different repertoire) but has musicality. He knows what personage he needs to be as well as understanding each word he sings.Thank you once again for your comments.
embenadorfinearts 3 years ago
El Maestro Warren tuvo la muerte que todo cantante de opera hubiese querido ... En el escenario , en una Funcion de La fuerza del destino de verdi , paradogicamente despues de haber cantado el Aria Morir Tremenda Cosa ... Urna fatal .
Saludos
mezereum 4 years ago
Beautiful, strong, noble, dramatic and lyric. A real MAN voice.
canafinwe 4 years ago 3
Nobody around like Warren today. The ultimate Verdi baritone --
stevevandien 4 years ago
Ditto!Are there any Verdi baritones today?
lpvcrcd 3 years ago
I sure can't think of any:)!
stevevandien 3 years ago
Listen to Spaniard Carlos Alvarez ....superb.
HeldenB 3 years ago
What a great Verdi Baritone! The Warren sound always makes me think of the finest Italian velvet and those high notes were mind blowing !
janejones11 4 years ago 2
This is from a live Met performance with Mitropoulos conducting. It's available on CD. I absolutely love Warren in this role. Perfect in his voice.
nickbaritone 4 years ago
Bravo! en què año fue este Ernani??? grazie.
Crampton1983 4 years ago