Table Tennis Forehand Counterhit Lesson

[magib0p]

Could you please show a video for doing a forehand counter hit using pen hold.

Thanks

[pingskills]

@magib0p Search for penhold and PingSkills. You'll find the video we have on playing with the penhold grip.

[magib0p]

@pingskills thanx it has really helped me

Cheers

[pingskills]

@magib0p You're welcome. Make sure you check out our website too. We've got heaps of great information there too especially in the Ask the Coach section!

[magib0p]

@pingskills

I have tried to ask a question but it said that you have to many questions already so i am waiting.

[pingskills]

@magib0p OK. Keep checking back. Alois gets through them pretty quickly!

[JhonderJose1]

thanks is a good video for a newbie like me ;)

[pingskills]

@JhonderJose1 You're welcome.

[DANIELCHO1000]

I got a yasaka Its a very good bat and I got a dhs skyline ii and hurricaneiii

[maxk880]

Jeff's elbow is too close to his body

[echobears]

i love you

[Isaac668]

Wow, thanks for that, I'm sure a lot of people appreciate these little tips to table tennis

However, just gonna tell you one minor thing. You're wasting a lot of your hips power when you swing because your arm is too close to your body, if you open up a bit, your shots will increase in power and retain accuracy. Obviously, your shots are going to go out at first, but give it one-two hours of practice and all should be well.

Fellow table tennis player

[pingskills]

@Isaac668 You can definitely do that if you feel comfortable. A lot of players do have a bigger swing with their arm. You can also get away with a shorter swing due to the speed of the bats these days.

[Mrwally112]

Excuse my English. Can you help me? I learned TT on my own. Despite of this, I have a good backhand, but i have a lot of problems with my forehand. When I (strike / lift) the ball, I allways need to down my wrist, so it is really difficult to me to counterhit as you show, I can´t control the ball; bystander, I can hit the ball enough using a mix of topspin/sidespin. What should I do? Can be used the topspin/sidespin over the level of the table?. Thank you for your excelent lessons,

[pingskills]

@Mrwally112 You're welcome. As we only have limited room here for answers it would be best if you used the Ask the Coach section of our website. We can provide you with a more thorough answer there.

[alexma123456]

I am new to table tennis , may I ask what is the different between counterhit and topspin ?

[houndy90]

@alexma123456

Counterhit: Flat return.

Topspin: Topspin

[tutorials3216]

for more forehands please go to tutorials3216

[reycoolish]

the problerm i have is my partener dosent hit the ball in the right position for me to do a forhand can someone help me please how dou play a forhand if the balls not in the right position

[yobmas722]

@pingskills uhmm is counter usable in games or for rallying?

[Singer6597]

Thanks I have a Tournament next week Thursday ! :)

GO TEAM JAGO ! (Im from Jamaica)

[pingskills]

@Singer6597 good luck!

[coldmove25]

10 people don't like this video ...What reason they got not to like this !!!!

[nu1ome]

how did i get from snowboarding to table tennis?

[pingskills]

@nu1ome Good question! Maybe it's a sign you should start playing Table Tennis :)

[minicroat]

noob question: should the start position look the same if you hit the ball straight and not diagonally

[pingskills]

@minicroat Pretty much. You can just twist your body slightly more so that now you are aiming down the line instead of across court.

[hugorneto]

Do you guys have the same lesson, but using the penhold grip? I was wondering how different the technique would be.

[pingskills]

@hugorneto We do have a general lesson on the penhold. The technique is not that different for the forehand counterhit. The start and finish positions are essentially the same.

[hugorneto]

@pingskills I've watched that. Great work, guys!

[ywexe]

Footwork, balance and even to minute details of where the free hand should move during pushes and loops etc. Drives should be totally perfected with all the basic criterias fulfilled before they move on to loops

[ywexe]

Yes u r right:) well I m just stating one of the many factors;)) I had been to some of the china training schools, they are secretive but they do emphasise on the basics of table tennis. The most important being grip, tightness of grip, muscles used during action

[ywexe]

For the grip thing, u may google in wang liqin grip, u can clearly see how he holds the bat, other table tennis world champions like Ma Long do the same too. Now you know why Ma Long who played internationally for 1 month won Timo Boll who played internationally for so long. It is these basic major flaws which European Countries do.

[pingskills]

@ywexe Thanks for your comment but I have to disagree. I think there a lot of reasons why Wang Liqin and Ma Long are World Champions that relate more to their talent and the amount of work and dedication they put into the sport to become the amazing players they are!

[DaKrazedKyubizt]

@pingskills do you think you could bring someone in to make a video on how to do the chinese loop and counterloop? I've been trying to figure it out, cuz i'm a penholder, and i'd rather be a penholder with a chinese loop. (it's mainly a style thing, but i'm really interested in how much different it could be from a european/japanese style loop). All i know is that you gotta use your whole arm. I can't figure out exactly how to use my whole arm effectively.

[pingskills]

@DaKrazedKyubizt Head over to our website and check out the Ask the Coach section. Search for "Chinese loop" and you will find a lot of discussion about it there. You can always leave a comment or ask a new question yourself. It is the best place to ask questions as we don't have any limitations on the length of our answers and you can easily look over all of your questions and comments.

[ywexe]

Another major flaw is the grip- the thumb is supposed to be more straight with a bit more of the fleshy pad gripping the handle, not the total side of the thumb gripping the handle, this is extremely important as if u curl up ur thumbs, u cancel ALOT of angles when u loop and cut, it is also much harder to change the direction of the ball.

[ywexe]

Hi, dont you find Pingskill's motion very awkward and robotic as compared to the asian countries? Because there is a basic major flaw that will affect how you improve, and that is because PingS uses the uber arm strength and not the strength at the wrist and lower arm. If one were to use the upper forearm strength, it is hard to forehand loop at some points, and it even much harer to continuos loop, which is extremely important at international competitions.

[seadragon155]

I love the sound hen the ball touches the bat

[MRsaxoholic]

What's the difference between this and drive? or is it just the same?

[kunXV]

can you use this to counterhit a loop?

[pingskills]

@kunXV You are better to use the "Forehand Block". We have a lesson on this stroke on our website.

[geniegogo]

when he stops thinking about it he hits past his nose - past his left eye actually - contrary to the instruction to stop the swing up to the middle of the body. Also since the head bobs to follow the swing I think the follow through is a tad longer than described - I think it's unconscious though. Just an observation.

But also the control is amazing

[pri2345]

these guys post excellent videos.I 've learned a lot from these videos.Hats off to pingskills.............

[ch4nunit]

noob. 

[paritoshdbz]

hey thnx a lot!

[BrotherTree1]

nice forehands there.

[trojanhorseiron]

could you show some of the footwork please

[1979ADRYAN]

Thank you for sharing!

[benjo1081]

thanks for the tip..

[pari4dear]

best

[MrJazkiller]

this is the best game for me...

[XxsupergluexX]

There's always slight topspin on the counterhit. Just want you guys to know :)

[MichaelJackson5TV]

he was just replaying it over and over again the start.

[imapplhelper]

he kinda didnt, if you have ears, the speed that the balls getting hit, is faster and slower at times

[cptjrkov]

paddle angle is crucial

see how his paddle makes a angle with the table so the ball cant slip threw

[panget630]

dude, before you rant, watch the other videos. this is the most basic stroke of the game. Thats why it seems so easy. If you watch the videos, you'll understand. Go pingskill! thanks for the informative videos!

[fingerskate94]

ciao sono alex schwatzer e a merenda mangio kinder pingui

[hungerer1]

Table tennis, a gentlemen's game.

[ZimZombi]

then my whole class is gentlemens :/

[popolocrises]

are

[laresbeast]

IT IS A MANS GAME!

[AugustasB]

1:58 gave me a heart attack

[StarcraftZergNerd]

wow, ur stroke SUX

if u went to china the guys would be like wtf r u doing

[xXHeartlessRikuXx]

lol the ball look like a computer when it moves...xD(sorry for bad english)

[37uber]

Can I be on the Australian Table tennis team? I'm not any good anymore but yeah...

[malamix9]

freggin bogans

[mrpeanut25]

Thanks i finally know the proper technique! What if you get a ball closer to your hip when doing this drill/in a game? Ive been having the most trouble when in this situation because im usually not fast enough to shift sideways for the forehand drive. Should i just try improve my prediction and movement?

Thanks in Advance

[shaolinmonk1616]

lol im australian, i dont know anyone who plays ping pong professionally lol

just footy ^.^

[pbsmick]

I do, my name is Phillip. Now you do know someone who plays TT professionally haha

[MoNkEhZ10]

well you need to get out more. sorry, but footy is like 5th or 6th played sport in aussie.

[Saxopwnerer]

Is this also called the drive?

[pingskills]

Yes, this can also be referred to as a drive.

[wind1357]

u know what we tennis people call ping pong people when they play tennis pushers. if u don't know what it means don't reply

[masoid3]

idiot. what are you trying to say?

[tabletennisplaya]

You're harsh man. They are already offering it for free.

[khabora]

Hardy you are really stupid

[twisteddragoneag]

south africans?

[CaDiLaCxPiMp]

Australians...

[FreddySeeFreddyDo]

hahahah... You can even see when the camera is from behind, that it says "Australia" on his shirt. Well, and of course his accent...

[aleko957]

no,it`s enough long

[sinthujanu02]

wieviele ballwechsel sind das?

[qurchakos]

147

[webster1233]

thre is some topspin in the ball

[skiingmaarten]

his forhand is to long

[undiesinabunch]

I appreciate the slow-mo.

[below90hz]

Are you being a Troll on purpose? These guys are world class athletes and could be spending their time doing other things but instead they chose to help morons like yourself for free. do you see Michael Jordan or Lebron James posting free basketball lessons? No. so STFU and respect what these guys doing - at least they aren't faving videos called "show me your genitals". Now who's the weirdo you perv.

[Blobsterisation]

@below90hz bloody hell what an own..age..

[cooloneyea]

@below90hz as much as i agree with how lebron james and them aren't posting videos, jon lajoie is still pretty clever and funny

[doer05]

counter hitting is good for defensive players right?

[HATEbeersnobs]

I grip my paddle in a pinching style

meaning my index finger & thumb touch the rubber is that legal or illegal

o touch the rubbber on the rackett?

[pingskills]

That sounds very similar to the shakehand grip. It certainly is legal to touch the rubber with your fingers. Take a look at our lesson on the correct grip to use. You can see it here on YouTube or on our website.

[PingMast]

is there any topspin on the ball?

[pingskills]

The counterhit imparts a little bit of topspin. To impart more topspin look at our videos on the forehand or backhand topspin.

[mickboe1]

these are home lessons but i stongly recomand 2 jusy go to an table tennis club and they also learn u the stuff there i dont say that this i wrong but its better 2 learn it from a trainen, and btw dont comment on my spelling i know its bad cant help it

[gornmaker]

to start his bat should off been closed more, his hitting was to open that's why it went to high over the net.

[stjustin]

i learnt that if u hit wit the tip of your blade.. v.off the sweet spot, u can generate alot of spin with speed, good with rpb and backhand, forehand harder.

[Emort]

his technique is ok..but the grip is wrong, and the wrist has to be straight so the blade should face the table horizontally. im not saying his way is wrong, but the chinese techniques are better ^^

[xiangyik]

You are wrong. Your comments apply only to penholders, not ppl who use the handshake hold.

[mickboe1]

nope wrong there is no better its just what u like the most.

[chaosc00l]

I was about to say the same until I saw your comment. It's just a personal preference and every player has a slight variation, so you can't say someone is holding it wrong.

[hoboishjoeishme]

Wow goodies.

[hiBrianhello]

why is there no backswing

[MJGriftz]

It's a counter, at slow speeds there is little backswing. But, as he hit faster, there should have been a little more, you're right.

[aalexcp]

why do sometimes i fail and hit the ball too far from the table or i dont know it thits teh net or something..?? do you need to move your elboow?? help me i dont know whats the reason because of it

[pingskills]

We don't check here as often as we look at our website - so for any questions please go to the "Ask the Coach" section of our website. For the moment though try and look at the start position and finish position as shown in the video. If you get these basics right you are well on your way. The other thing to concentrate on is the angle of the bat. Good luck and don't forget to visit our website.

[aalexcp]

or sometimes when the ball is low and i do the forehand it hits on the net

[Witty91]

U sometimes miss the ball because ur not good :o U need to train, do it again and again..

[aalexcp]

no. but i mean i do hit it but not everytime is on the table whats the reason of that

[Witty91]

It cant be on the table every time..

[aalexcp]

well but i do like 1 of 10 correct, all the others ones or goo too far or they dont pass the net

[Witty91]

Train and u find it out on ur own.

[GotMilkMS]

yeah

[MoNkEhZ10]

aalexcp, should of just taken the advice, it sounded just then u didnt want to believe you needed to practice?

[homework00003]

good vid

[eberaldo]

there is nothing really wrong with his followtrough.

the technical development goes towards playing counter and loop pretty similarily.

this way it's easier to play against spinny balls and it gets easier to switch to "full" looping.

also, the trajectory of the ball makes it safer to hit the table.

for somebody, who is not well coordinated, this can be difficult to learn.

my experience as a coach proves this fact.

[sofawada]

yooo..i like urrr lesson....

[pissingeez]

wow these guys are amazing they rele know how to teach and thyere wicked constistent

[unanimousboy]

he looks a bit funny (technique) but he is very consistant, so that's good.

[moqa]

great video!

I am not really sure the way this video is showing the forehand. I dont think you need to move your hand up. As you move your body, the hand authomatically does what it needs to do.That is what my coach said.

[boi2boy]

lol :]

[bensta690]

yaaay! jeff!!!

[UtahStateAggies]

You guys are great these are really good im expecting some more...

[Swiffers]

That "start, finish position" was a GREAT description in teaching fh stroke. Keep it up, your great!

[bsurfs]

thanks man

[1Hetfield1]

Great lesson, Thanks!!

[poorknight123]

hey, great to see some aussie table tennis lessons on youtube! look forward to others in the future.