Ft Hood Killings

[matthews15f]

Any honest muslim please expain to me what you did with the black slaves that you took from east Africa. I don't see any African Arabs like we have African Americans. Islam is worse than Nazism no wonder they combined forces to wipe out what they considered inferior races

[matthews15f]

Iggy... whatever, it is standard practice for muslims to blame others for their problems, muslims are liars and I think people should not lend ears to them at all. there is nothing like Jewish terrorism. the Last time i checked, the Jews added another noble prized on their side while muslims are proud of beheading

[iggy6]

All Americans need to watch the Illuminated series on YouTube. Also "The Arrivals" video series. Immediately I knew this was a false flag to drum up hate for muslims again. Most likely they did this because they are going to bomb Iran or Pakistan. THey are going to do something horrific in the middle east. Read Jerry Mazza's articles on Ft. Hood and this patsy. Unfortunately, I have read 1000's of hate comments on mainstream articles of the Ft. Hood shooting.

[matthews15f]

Why do people fear muslims? I just don't get it. a muslim terrorists is a terrorist period.

[iggy6]

Well you will notice its the medias fault. There have been about a 100 to 1 jewish terrorists over muslim terrorists yet they never report jews in the US as "Terrorists". Just last month they caught a guy with a bomb factory in a garage behind a home used as day care. Can you imagine what would be said on FOX and CNN if that was a muslim? Day Care Terrorist Caught! I can see it already. Ironically, after local Califonia media covered the jew bomber story, it disappeared.

[nasem89]

Teach the children to fight and, when the need arises, show them their enemy.

[DefenceSpeech]

If the news stories covered in the U.S. didn't come from anonymous sources all of the mainstream papers would have would be advertisements and of course the ever so amazing daily horoscope! haha, it's sad, but nobody cares enough, nor has the time to go against the tide of bogus information that's flushed down the collective cerebral toilet known as humanity.

[jove04]

Hi Ella,

Major Hasan is a Palestinian but the media reports him as a Jordanian. The reason is simple. They want to cover up for Israel's doings against his people in Palestine.  If he did it, then my guess is it must be because of the American support to Jews in Israel who are murdering his people. Palestinians execute suicide bombings all the time.

[FlopSideOfLife2009]

Your a good person.

Keep going.

[55ella2007k]

valhala56: I have posted some lengthy responses to your comments, none of which are showing up. YT glitch or whatever. Or perhaps you did not accept the response. Whatever. Again, this has nothing to do with politically 'correct' arguments coming from my end, nor the usual tin-foil-hat crap prevailing on YT these days. May I point out, that the entire WMD crap regarding Iraq has been completely blown out of the water by now? That they did not exist? despite govt sourcing?

[55ella2007k]

>>> and may I also point out, that govt sources, have mislead the American public in virtually every major conflict? Have you actually read the de-classified documents regarding the Bay-of-Pigs Operation, the documents involving Cointel-Pro, or the Pentagon Papers, for that matter? This is not tin-foil-hat material, not even close. And it wasn't about reptiles invading the earth :) It's about corruption, period. At all levels. This is not something easily dismissed.

[2minstral]

Great post Ella. I hope a good investigative journalist gets the chance to interview Major Hassan before something happens to him.

[55ella2007k]

2minstral: I'm sure that somebody will get his version of the story out. I'm not excusing his actions in any way, but I doubt whether a fair trial for this man is even possible at this point. Every human has a breaking point + he evidently reached his. It doesn't excuse his action. But it reminds me of the story of a father, whose daughter had been raped by many assailants, all of whom were set free, despite all the evidence against them. Everyone has a breaking point, each + everyone one us

[Y3rMawm]

Operation Northwoods legacy? Perhaps. Perhaps not. There is a war in a far off land that seems to be losing support.

[carefulcarpenter]

Inciting brother against brother. Cooler heads should know that violence begets more violence. Now is a time for non-reaction to horrific events.

[onlywhenprovoked]

I think I ruffled a few feathers over at someone else's video for saying that I'm just glad this happened at a military target for once, as opposed to a bunch of citizens that didn't sign up for "kill or be killed".

That's not to say I don't feel for the victims and their families, but they were trained killers and perhaps they didn't expect to be killed at Ft Hood, but this would only be because of the "it can't happen here" mentality.

It can happen anywhere, sadly. Crazy people do exist.

[Capitalocracy]

@onlywhenprovoked oooh ruffled feathers is one way to put it, I imagine you downright pissed people off

[jacobvision]

re gerry301 - I agree, yelling "allah Akbar" has anything to do with religion while killing - This is part of the indoctrination because for a moslim to say Allah Akbar is the same as americans say "Oh My God" - OMG -

When will OMG be related to american terrorism ?

When do we get recordings from Iraq soldiers telling OMG invading Fallujah ?

It's all about mass media mind setting

and again the moslim world gets the full load of feeling guilty.

[gerry301]

My comment was meant as sarchasm. However several have picked it up as legitimate criticism. I apologize for not making it clearer as I disagree entirely with what I said and am surprised that anyone would take it seriously.

Nor do I believe a person firing a pistal into a crowd of people while yelling 'Alluha Akbar' equates to 'Oh my god'.

[jacobvision]

Every terror news message related to 9/11 should be considered a new false flag.

In the circus the illusionists you may see how easy it is to hypnotize people and make them think being a dog and then act as a dog

It is so easy to make someone as Hasan do what he did to prepare the world for the next super islam terror attack with millions dead.

For what I read abt the person Hasan I dare say that he is innocent and stands for an Islam of peace

[Boomer1949]

I didn't get the "terrorist" thing until I was listening to Hannity on the way home from work. It's all about a "terrorist attack on American Soil, under the Obama watch".

There really is a vast right wing conspiracy out there and who knows how far and deep it goes.

[hugozoom]

Hi Ella,

At his point I doubt that the shootings represent a conspiracy, but like you I am very suspicious of how it's being spun by the MSM and of the idea that we're really getting all the facts.

For example did he, Hollywood action hero style, REALLY shoot over 40 people in 7 minutes, and were NONE of them victims of friendly fire? I don't see how any one person could shoot that well or that quickly.

This helps us see the military as more competent and Hasan as more threatening.

[onlywhenprovoked]

With a standard glock like you see most cops carry, you can let off a round once per second, with ease - minus 2 or 3 seconds to change each clip - for as many times as you can stand to pull that trigger - in a building full of unarmed people that aren't expecting it... for 7 minutes you say?

It doesn't seem far fetched at all - but who knows what really happened and we will never get the full details of anyway. Military court, national security, blah blah blah.

[55ella2007k]

owp: exactly my sentiment.

[jsol325]

seems like this has mk-ultra written all over it. who knows what the real facts are, but they for sure needed another catalyst of some kind to convince the american people to continue support for this illegal war and perhaps another invasion of another middle eastern country.

[MustacheVerra]

I totally agree with you. I'm very skeptical about any terrorist attack that benefit those with a geopolitical agenda in that region. I know it's for a lot of folks to imagine but the guy could have been framed for this. Yes it's possible and much easier than we think to pull off. Who knows...

I said it before and I'll say it again: there will be terrorist act even if all terrorist decide to stoo terror. The CIA, Mossad etc..will do it instead.

[ArutPerumJoyti]

Do we really know who pulled the trigger? First reports said the shooter was shot to death, then come to find out the alleged killer is among the wounded at the hospital!

[vmpslr2]

i think we could come to a better understanding of those people by 1.reading the Koran 2.going to a Muslim country,or talking to one here,an maybe we could understand a little more about the culture an ways of the people there,otherwise we are just an invading army

[pluto545]

I'm usually suspicious of any news that comes from an anonymous source, it happens very often amongst gossip columns and 3rd rate political blogs.

[KamikazeKoscki]

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[valhala56]

I can understand people not trusting our Goverment when it has lied to us so much. But please use common sense. Trying to explain this away with Psyops is reaching into tin foil hat land. This is not the first incident of this kind, there was incident at Recruting Office & Officers being fragged by a Muslim at the lead up to the Iraq invasion.

Yes Radical Islam has proclaimed itself an enemy of US-If you don't belive it then you are in denial. They are upfront with it on the internet.

[valhala56]

Sometime we can become to skeptical. In the effort to prevent Xenophobia in the US we have over corrected to the point where the US Army promotes Fanatical Islamists to the Rank of Major. This is all due to Political correcteness not a Psyop.

Young soldiers are dead because people are too afraid to report an enemy from within. We spend Billions of dollars fighting Radical Islam when this guy is right in Plain sight declaring his allegiance to Islam.

[fatpius]

2nd attempt to post comment........!

your so right! much! more to this story. timing!

agenda!!! manipulation, old school.....that has been working perfectly, overall. always enjoy your clarity of thought.

[PressForFreedom]

Ella I don't think murder results from a "rational thought process". I don't consider this a terrorist act in the political sense, seems more like a guy who went nuts to me. Shame is I don't believe anything the MSM or the Gov says anymore... they have lost ALL credibility, so the truth is hard to know. But the truth I do see is some innocents lost their lives and some families lost loved ones... his reasons mean little in comparison.

[55ella2007k]

PressForFreedom: yes, and I largely agree with you...and always appreciate your comments! The final act of murder may not be rational in the least, but things leading up to it, may in fact be very 'rational', including justification for dropping the atomic bomb on Hiroshima in order to avoid a wider war. There are a few grey zones here...and I could point to many other examples, including individual actions, which may not be justifyable in the end. Will follow up later - thx !!!

[MustacheVerra]

@55ella2007k

Actually, dropping the atomic bomb on Hiroshima was not necessary at all. The Japaneses were 1 week away of being completely defeated. This has more to do with showing off... To the Russian and the world. I look at Hiroshima as the biggest act of terrorism in history. And I'd even say it terrorized the whole world.

[55ella2007k]

MustachaVerra: yes, and I agree with you. That's why I placed the 'rational' in quotation marks - because it was anything other than rational. But it is being 'rationalized' to this very day. I'm sorry, I should have made my comment more clear. My bad :(

[55ella2007k]

PressForFreedom: sorry, I should have clarified this a bit more. So, for example: if some woman ends up murdering her boyfriend/husband etc. after years of abuse, while this same person is also abusing their children, then it is not entirely irrational to kill that person, because it ultimately stops the abuse. Whether it is 'justifyable ' under the law, is an entirely different question. Anyway, it's not entirely a measure of insanity, I believe. Needless to say, I'm against killing innocents

[PressForFreedom]

Actually I believe your definition of "rational" is correct. My mistake.

[gerry301]

We should not conclude that jumping on a desk and yelling "allah Akbar" has anything to do with religion while killing 13 individual soldiers. He was just a good man who had been pressured to go to Afganistan and do what he signed up to do. Its really the governments fault for not understanding him. Especially the "pentagon'. Why we invaded Afganistan after 9/11 is beyond me. The Muslums are a peaceful people, who are poor due to western imperializm and only want justice.

[MiranUT]

I wonder the same about invading Afghanistan. Now reading about the lack of organization which prevented any constrcutive rebuilding. Makes me sick.

I heard one report that some of the deaths and injuries at Ft Hood were from friendly fire. So it's not clear how many people they guy killed. Not trying to defend him... I think anyone who murders (unless it's self defense) is mentally unbalanced. Isn't that what they do to recriuts in boot camp?

[gerry301]

With all due respect, my response was meant as sarchasm.

The US had every right to invade Afganistan after 9/11.

It wasn't the government so much as it was out of control political correctness that kept him in.

And yes, it was his religion and hatred against the infidels that caused him to do what he did.

Yes, they teach recruits who volunteer to join the military to kill. Its their job to kill and win wars.

[55ella2007k]

gerry301: I can see your point to some degree, but the given reason for invading Afghanistan was to capture Bin Laden. After 10 years, he has not been captured + the Taliban, a lose tribal alliance, who initially shielded him, was itself funded by our OWN govt, during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. You are missing the much larger picture here.

[gerry301]

The US had every right ti invade Afganistan and to bring to justice (one way or another) for murdering 3000 innocent Americans in less than an hour on 9/11.

Having said that, after the terrorists camps were destroyed and those who supported them, it was time to leave. I agree that the US should have left at that time. Instead we are trying to build a nation where there has never been one before. Its not going to happen.

[gerry301]

The US through the CIA funded and supplied the Mujahadeen. Most if not all were through tranfers made through the Pakistani ISI. Were some of them taliban? I'm sure. But only if they were Afgan mujahadeen and not from Pakistan. The purpose was to rid Afganistan of the Soviets, as much as it was for punishing the Soviets for their support to Vietnam during our long war their. So the picture can get as large as you want.

[55ella2007k]

gerry301: thanks for the comments. And yes, the picture is indeed very large: it's called geo-political strategy. In any case, the military cannot be expected to do 'nation-building' - any military, for that matter. It's an oxymoron, because it is not their task. The military, any military anywhere, exists for one reason only: to kill the perceived enemy. Period. Thus, using military force is not an 'extension' of diplomacy, but the lack thereof. Thx for taking the time to comment .

[gerry301]

I agree for the most part, but the US military did provide the climate for a nation to establish itself in Iraq. It will not happen in Afganistan, because it is far too backward, and has not reached a stage in its history to allow the formation of a nation.

The military has often been seen and used as an extension of diplomacy by force throughout history. Often because of failed peaceful means at reconcilliation by one party or the other.

Thanks for your reply.

[gerry301]

The NY times stated in an article a few years back, that they had tracked 121 murders in the US by troops in the military over a number of years when Iraq was going hot and heavy.

The NY Post did a followup with Justice dept facts that showed the number was actually 80% lower that their peers in the same age group. In other words those in the military returning from war were 80% less likely to murder someone. Some mental imbalance eh?

[55ella2007k]

gerry301: religious extremism can be found ANYWHERE, not just amongst Muslims. It can be found right here, in the United States, within certain groups who do not shout 'allah akbar' - but 'God be with you' while killing doctors + maiming nurses who provide counseling for pregnant teenagers, not necessarily in favor of abortion, but in favor of rational decision making. So, rest assured, extremists can be found in all countries. The Koran contains as many violent passages as the Bible.

[gerry301]

I understand what you are saying, and if timothy Mcveigh was yelling 'its gods will' that I did what I did, he may have been seen the same way . I think Hasans motives were driven by the current conflicts in the mideast (and his religion) and his own conflicts. In this day and age standing on a desk yelling 'alluha Akbar while murdering 13 people would be a major indication of a self made terrorist.

[MiranUT]

just a couple of comments of the posts above: The US sent millions of $ to the Taliban pre-2001.

[MiranUT]

Lots of indoctrination goes on in boot camp. Are soldiers in their right mind when they go to war? When they come back? The 1/13/08 NY Times: there was an 89 percent increase [in the murder rate] during the present wartime period, to 349 cases from 184, about three-quarters of which involved Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans. There are flaws with comparing soldiers and noncombatants, but greater risk of incarceration among veterans (Greenburg/Rosenheck 2002).

[medicatedsaint]

We've lost the resource war. China is doing it peacefully by buying them up. Eventually the world will drop the dollar not because it's losing value so much but because the way we have acted. We are the mafia that extorts and strong arms people for it with a smile and a bunch of flag waving. At some point the world is going to get sick of it. Because at this point that is what it basically is, bullying. This is how I see it anyway.

[sukayren]

Well said Ella.

[KnightTriple6]

ils Dialprt; Soba; Upaah Chis Nanba Zixlay Dodsih.

[tattooskin72]

You knew they were going to do this. I am torn, myself. I'm not a conspiracy nut type, but seriously... isn't this just a bit convenient? Seriously, this just pisses me off more and more every damn day. And people saying that the democrats are better than the republicans is pure shit. They BOTH are shit.

Sorry if I am angry in this one... much respect to you. I'm going to need to settle myself down a bit.

[iTellYouNoLie]

another great connecting of the dots ella, IPI and Trans-Afghan are the pipelines your talking about, they will be on the silk road, the guy who went shooting at the base was supposedly going to ship out soon, and didn't want to, the FBI was watching him, and the base, now they try linking him to alCIAduh. I wonder what the deal was with those two other "suspects"...

[phuckery4you1958]

Couldn't have said it better myself even though you know I have tried many times. Good job.