Palestinian villages lost in 1948 war - 13 May 08

[AbbadiLaith]

Zionists raised a rifle not Palestinians

Jews, Muslims and Christians used to live in peace before the establishment of Israel

[thegodfather90able]

One day Palestine will be free ! they will never forget nor forgive those basters Zionist gangs who control everything like a cancer they said Palestine was a desert was empty then how you could U explain basters all those Olives trees that have been there from long time and how do U explain that all the Palestinians R farmers; U started this fire against them and your excuse was the religion, the lie that U had wrote in your holy books, God wiling dosen`t say take the land after U got punish

[ELVISCHALLENGE]

Q: How many Jewish homes and lives were lost by pogroms and murders in Arab lands - of Jews who lived in those lands before Islam existed? The difference is, Palestine was the Jewish land, the name was applied to Judea by Rome - not to any Islamic lands. Israel was re-established legally, unlike the Arab regimes which are historical fictions and never existed 120 years ago.

[IustitiaPax]

@ELVISCHALLENGE In reality, the Palestinians (Both Christians and Muslims among them) are the descendants of the ancient Christianized Hebrews, mixed with nearby Arab tribes, with Phoenicians, Samaritans, Assyrians and later Byzantine Greeks and some Latin Crusaders. These are the Palestinians. The Caucasus-based rabbis and their descendants are genetically nearly unrelated to the Holy Land. The Palestinians are natives, not European Jews.

[MUDSHARK111]

@ELVISCHALLENGE Israel was born out of Jewish terrorism.Israel might have been legally recognised by the UN after Zionist pressure and back door shenanigans . but there was nothing ethical or fair about it .and this crap about the Palestinians being a fiction might work on the ignorant but to any one with more than a passing interest can find out the history.however it is largely irrelevant as they sure as shit exist now, and they have as much right to as Israel ever did.

[Azarel011]

Jews with mixed ethnitiy came to palestine, and stole this land, and not otherwise.

[jereuter01]

Anyone without a dog in the fight desirious of learning more about Zionism in the face of Zionist apologist kreplacy3 or 2 or 1's smartass comments below should find the following reading illuminating - Google or go to B & N or Amazon and read excerpts or purchase "At What Price Israel?" authored by Alfred M. Lilienthal, published 1953. It's an eye opener.

[GS212301]

what is Israel doing?

[TARASTWO2]

AshkeNazi Jews are at the heart of most of the Zionist related problems.

There is a very high incidence of mental instability and illness in this inbred group of Jews who predominate the ruling class in Israel and who pull the strings in Washington.

[gertzadek]

Screw the Arab occupiers of Judea and Samaria. They only came to the land after the first Aliyah Jews arrived in the 1880's.

[ramysayegh]

do u believe in your lies yet???

go read some history book.

[maggiestardust]

@ramysayegh Even History Books have a side in this story.. Israels History books says that its their country and vice Versa with Palestine books.. So in this case you cant really rely on the books .. Im sorry to say that ..

[Barbituranek]

Lick my ass jew!

[Metouka2009]

6 millions muslims leaving daily islam,,)) and the only evil is ur cult called islam.

[majdijr]

lol how did you know that !!! in 1 year there would be no Muslims on the face of the earth. You're insulting yourself with such comment.

[Metouka2009]

sorry i made a mistake 16.000 daily and its not me saying that its eljazira,

[majdijr]

well id love to see your source ? please send me a link or something, actually i find it hard to believe and most people are turning religious lately (at least here in the Arab world).

By the way, im a secular and not religious at all.

[Metouka2009]

yes i will send u the link on privet it doesnt go here.

[odokokan]

according to the *el nakba*418 arab viliges were abandoned by the arab in 1948.

how ever,when i looked at the list,i saw some very familier names....of old jewish towns!

places like tsipori,yavne,yehudiya,ezor,an­d many,many more.

more then a 100 towns that archeaoligic excavations like old synagougs,imiges od menora lights,shofars horns and many,many hebrew notes.

in some places,the jewish community livrd up until the the 18 century.

many other arab towns were maily egyptians from 1832.

[palestia13]

the problem is that you keep saying jewish towns ,,, there isn`t a jewish town it is an araab town but your people changed these names and creat a history in our land that is neveeeer exist ,, yup there were a jews live in palestine but they were living in arab land ,, they came to palestine after arab and >>arab let them live in thier land peacely ,, !!

[odokokan]

actualy,i didnt know that those viliges were old jewish towns until i started to study about the nakba by myself.

in israel,no one teached me that about the old jewish towns.

but if you read the mishna and the talmud,which are the rulles and the argumments and the wizdom of the jewish rabbis that lived in israel in the second temple period until the rise of islam,and they are the evident that those towns were jewish towns.

you can read ozevius too which wasnt jewish but describe allot.

[palestia13]

no MR. there is not and the history you saying about is created by zoinist ,,, all these cities are arab and belong to us ,, example tal aviv >>>it was called tal el rabea ... and when zoinist come and occuppied palestine they changed the name ,,and the rest of the cities and villages are the same story !! this is an araaab laaaand !!

[odokokan]

well befroe those viliges were arab,there where jewish.since this is,the land of the jews.

for example,yafo area:

el abasiya -was yehudiya.

hiria- was the old city of bnei barak,that its rabbis were famous in the 2 century.

beit dajan- was old beit dagon from the bible.

kfar anna and saqiya where the of ono,from th e bible to the takmud time.

yazur-was the famous city of ezor,thats its old synagougs remains stile exist today.

[odokokan]

another thing about the yafo area,is that most of the arab viliges that were evacueted were EGYPTIAN viliges and towns,established during the egyptian occupation in the 19 century,with a huge immigration wave of egyptians,like the abu kish tribe,and the tsarafi and dejabara.

places like faja,um labas,salame,shich munis,jamasin,iglil and sumail were egyptian.

thier settel all the coastal area until the carmel mounten,using the swamps to grow thier buffalos.

[bluecheezbox]

Tel Aviv was built by Jews in I believe 1908 (not sure of the exact year, but around there). Yaffo is nearby, but Tel Aviv was always a Jewish city...

[irishxxkelt]

No way. You only arrived there as invaders in the late 8th century.

[Metouka2009]

there is no palestine its a myth ,Just to open your nerow minded:There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc. go check history book befor you spread rubish!

[palestia13]

OMG ,,really really we fed up with your lying people !! the hole middle eash is for araaaaaab .. and palestine like jordan and lebanon and egypt an ARAB COUNTRY ..MY LORD .... we have our own culture that israel steel it always form us and says that it`s belong to israel ,,,, !! buuufffff ,,,, and i think your the one who should gooo and educate your self about our country palestine inspite of saying BLA BLA BLA THINGS !!

[Metouka2009]

palestine never existeddddddd . even ur coran say so go read surah 5,20.21. u muslimss steal every land u put ur feet in.like u did with the 57musims countries u own now, soon europe will be eurobia .

[palestia13]

huh..you mean 6 million person enter islam dialy ,,, go and see the news plz!!

and what is this suppose to mean 5.20.21??

you think you know my coran more than me ,, i don`t think so !!

and YUP PALESTINE IS EXIST AND IT WILL ,,IT`S AN ARAB LAND AND IT WILL FOR EVER WEATHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT ,,,,, and WE will get back enshallah from you terrorists !!

[Metouka2009]

noooooooooo 6 millions leaving islam daily, and more then that because muslims in muslims countries r afraid to say they left islam sooooo more then 6 millions daily. search the video from el jazira called'' 6 millions muslims left islam''

[irishxxkelt]

Islam is the fastest declining religion in the Middle East. Thousands are having visits from angels and Jesus himself.

[irishxxkelt]

Arabs never had any culture. You took what was there before you.

[GuitaristontheFloor]

You are a retard.

[bluecheezbox]

you make so much sense...

[Metouka2009]

yes and its the truth;)

[irishxxkelt]

Yes Palestinians, Lebanese and Jordanians are all Syrians

[jgarbuz]

It's okay for Muhammad to kill the Jews of Medina and Khaybar, but JEws cannot kill Muslims. It's okay for nearly 1 million Jews to be kicked out of the Arab countries, but JEws are not allowed to take back their ancient land. It's okay for the Grand Mufti to send thousands of Jewish children to their deaths during the Holocaust while he was living in Berlin, but the IDF dare not harm an Arab child. Fuck the Arabs. They have 21 Arab countries and 6 million square miles of land. Fuck 'em.

[majdijr]

Jews cannot kill Muslims !!! Your problem is not with muslims, dont make it sound like a holy war, 40% of Palestine's population were christians and thanks to you its something like 5% now. You destroyed churches and kicked christians like you did to muslims. Your problem is with the Arabs and not with muslims or christians.

As for the Mufti (God bless his soul) you know he was so desperate and wanted at any cost to stop the Zionist plans to take over Palestine

[jgarbuz]

Well, you are right that there was no such thing as any "Palestinian people." There were all kinds of clans and tribes and samaritans and circassians and others who had been transplanted onto Jewish soil over the many centuries. ANyway you are total liar. Jews never destroyed a single church or mosque in all of history. The ARabs destroyed over 60 synagogues in East Jerusalem in 1948 when the Jordanian army expelled the Jews. The Mufti was a Palestinian Nazi, and so are you.

[majdijr]

lol dont make me laugh, let's not forget the hundreds of villages that were destroyed by the israeli army/terrorists in 1948, if you deny that then you are definitely an ingnorant 13 year old boy. You claim that Palestine was an empty land till you came and populated it !!! you yourself admit that you came to this land and found people and you were ordered by "God" to slaughter them. I dont think a true God would order such a thing. Cant you see !! your history is based on lies and myths

[jgarbuz]

Every Arab village was built on or near a Jewish village that had previously destroyed. The land was covered by Hebrew names, like Beth Lechem and Hevron and Yafo and Yerushalaim long before Arabs came to turn our beautiful land into a shithole. Our mistake in 1948 was not exterminating the Arabs after we were attacked. We should not have let them escape alive to Gaza or the West Bank or Lebanon. We should have gassed them all. Our kindness is what comes back to bite us every time.

[majdijr]

lol i cant believe im arguing with a person who claims to be 62 years old and on youtube. I'll make sure to hate you till the last breath and remind every child of our lost paradise. Saladin managed to defeat whole European armies in Palestine and we will do it again cause we are righteous, a small militia (HezbAllah) showed you hell in southern lebanon, imagine a whole army of those people, if you are smart enough you would leave this land and stand by the righteous

[jgarbuz]

YEah,keep spreading your stupid lies and propaganda as you have for the last 61 years. A lot of good it will do you.But the TRUTH sets us FREE. When the world learns how Muhammad murdered, robbed and expelled the JEws, and how our Holy of Holies was desecrated by Muslim mosques, and see muslims slaughtering each other with no mercy, they will see that our Jewish cause is true. Oh, my stepson shot dead 10 Hezbollah in Lebanon years ago, but was also shot in the knee, but is now fine in Israel.

[jgarbuz]

Saladin was a Kurd, who if he came back today would be killing Arabs who did what they did to his people, and who have not let the Kurds have their own independent land. And Saladin was kept healthy by his Jewish physician, Rabbi Moshe bin Maimon, known to the world as Maimonides. Saladin would today fight with us JEws to liberate both Jerusalem and Kirkuk from evil Arab clutches.

[hilbert2547]

how old are you? 62 ? stupid,ignorant stereotyped and imature statement here. Its such a bullshit. Shame on you!

[jgarbuz]

Yeah, I'm 62 and old enough to say

DEATH TO ISLAM; DEATH TO "PALESTINE"

LONG LIVE ISRAEL and may the prophet of Islam BURN IN HELL FOR MURDERING THE JEWS OF MEDINA AND KHAYBAR. Okay?

[hilbert2547]

maybe you are interessted in jewish terror groups there are a lot e. g. Irgun. Didn´t you know?Do you know Baruch Goldstein? You should know him he was a jewish terrorist. You are like Nazi the palestinian people have the right to live free! This is universal human right! ignorant american

[jgarbuz]

The Irgun and Baruch Goldstein only came after the Mufti murdered thousands of Jews alongside Eichmann when Haj Amin el Husseini was Hitler's guest in Berlin during WWII. And I agree the "Palestinians"should be free in Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, Syria or any of the countries they belong to. They don't belong on Jewish soil, except those who pledge allegiance to the flag of Israel.

[hilbert2547]

ask Uri Avnery he was an jewish terrorist and changed his mind. Why he is doing that?

[jgarbuz]

Uri Avnery goes back to 1956 when he was a small combat commander. He made a porno newspaper called "HaOlam HaZeh" (This World) and later became a member of knesset, where he has held a seat for well over 40 years. Like many left wing Jews, he is a self hating Jew and a constant critic of ISrael. Israel is one of the few countries that lete both Jewish and Arab TRAITORS sit in its parliament. It would be like America letting communists and nazis sit in Congress. Israel is a liberal democracy.

[jgarbuz]

Uri Avnery was a pornographer and well known self hating Jewish leftist and traitor who managed to get and hold a seat in the Knesset for over 40 years. Israel is a liberal democracy that lets both Jewish and Arab traitors sit and preach anti-Jewish hatred from their seats in the parliament. Israel is full of Jewish and ARab traitors and does not hang them like Arab countries or Iran. It lets them sit in parliament and continue to spread their poison with parliamentary immunity.

[jgarbuz]

900,000 Jews were chased out of the Arab countries. The "Palestinians" should go live on the land the Jews left behind in the Arab and Muslim countries. THey have no right to be on Jewish soil, except those prepared to pledge allegiance to the flag of Israel.

[hilbert2547]

crazy man The jewish do the same they experienced in the past. So they should know what it means, so they break international law. Crazy logic. Following this logic the native americans should kill the whites. Thats not a statement of a 62 years old. sorry

[jgarbuz]

"Following this logic the native americans should kill the whites."

Following the logic of Hamas and the PLO, they should. The native American "indians" should fortify their reservations and start shooting rockets and sending suicide bombers into the suburbs of the "white eyes" just as the Palestinian terrorists do to the Jews.

[majdijr]

while mine is actually there, every stone in Palestine proves our existence back to our Canaanite and Phoenician ancestors, while you have nothing but lies and myths. Anyway, U.S will not be there forever for you and i cant wait for the day till my sons or grandsons kick you out and throw you to the sea and return back to our house in Haifa

[jgarbuz]

Every stone in Canaan proves that Arabs have no place in our ancient land that they now call "Palestine," as not one word of Arabic has ever been found prior to 636 AD. Arabic is a foreign language brought by a foreign people. Any linguist knows that Hebrew is the only extant Canaanite language. You have no house in Haifa. My relatives live in a hi-rise in Haifa built over where your imaginary house once stood. You are Lebanese. Get Lebanese citizenship. Haifa is the JEwish homeland for Jews.

[majdijr]

ofcourse it didn't, Semitic languages have evolved to become the Arabic language that we know today. As for my grandfather's house, yes he was kicked out in 1948 war and same thing to many of my friends families. Im not going to argue with you anymore. You don't sound as smart as a person who went to university.

[jgarbuz]

Another Arab lie. Hebrew is an ancient Canaanite language. As for your grandfather I'm only sorry the Jewish army didn't deal with him and your family the way my family in Poland was dealt with. My grandmother was murdered by your Nazi heros. So was most of my mother and father's respective families, including first children. I only beg forgiveness from God that we didn't do the same to yours. We should not let ONE "Palestinian" escape alive. Period. Our Prophet Samuel was right! Kill Amalek!

[darrellmellissa]

Wish in one hand, then shit in the other, Now see which one gets full 1st.

[majdijr]

There's a saying (The enemy of your enemy is your friend), The Arab kings (english puppets) let him down when he asked them to stand up against the belfour declaration, The zionist plans has been setup and prepared in late 1800s to take over Palestine, again its not about taking revenge from us, your problem is with the Nazis and the western people who have always treated you like dogs and not us. Jews families lived among their Arab brethren peacefully with no problems at all times.

[jgarbuz]

The Jewish "Plan" to return to our homeland has been there for over 2500 years for anyone to read. It's clearly in the Bible, where it promises that we will be in exile, but our God of Israel will return us from Exile. But even your false Koran says that the land belongs to us Israelites. And Arabs did treat Jews like dogs. But Jews were always smart to make money, and were professionals, so the Arabs needed us to tax us to death and use our physicians and skilled people. Arabs lived on OUR soil

[majdijr]

Lastly I cant believe you're a 62 year old person (by looking at your profile), you sound like a 13 year old kid, it's obviously you know nothing about history and facts, you like the rest of the people has been brainwashed by the zionist propaganda and myths.

But worry not my friend, we've been through this before and we've managed to kick the invaders out of this beautiful land and we will do it again. I probably wont see that but i'm sure my sons will.

[jgarbuz]

I only have my bachelor's degree in History, with my speciality Middle East area studies. So much for your "insight." I lived in Israel. No mosques and certainly no churches were ever destroyed. My father in law used to bring his car into Gaza to get repaired, and I used to work outside Sderot, which is made up 20,000 Jews who left Morocco. It's all Jewish land. Our mistake was not massacring all the Arabs in 1948 like the Mongols. They knew how to fight Arabs right! No enemies left behind.

[yoni0707]

Isreal have the base right to be existent!

Isreal is a free nation.

Im Isreali jew and Im proud of it! should'nt I? should I go back to the padt that jew were killded cause who are they? NO

[313630614]

ya it should exist but you dont have to fuckin go nazi and kill everyone ass hole faggot why dont you go worship hitler

[majdijr]

free nation based on killing and kicking people out of their lands and stealing their land and claiming that its yours based on myths that 30 years diggings proved nothing of its existance !!! you people are worse than the nazis

[jgarbuz]

Why not? Muhammed murdered the Jews of Medina and Khaybar, and kicked all the JEws out of the Hijaz, did he not? over 850,000 Jews were forced out of the Arab countries, were they not?How many of the nearly 1 million Jews are left today in Arab and Muslim countries? The Grand Mufti sent Jewish children to their deaths in the Holocaust while he lived in Berlin, did he not? So Jews are not allowed to hit back and take revenge?

[majdijr]

Long live free arabic Palestine from the river to the sea, Death to all israelis ...Those invaders will be kicked out sooner or later, history proves this, the invaders are always kicked out no matter how strong they are.

[AdvanXer]

Yes, all Arabs should go back to Arabia.

[majdijr]

the israelis should go back to poland, u.k, russia, ethiopia and the rest of the countries that they came from.

Hope i live to the day i see them being kicked out or thrown to the sea, let them taste some of the pain and misery they brought to the Palestinians and the Arabs in general

[jgarbuz]

How can the so-called "Palestinians" claim a state when they were never a nation? Just a collection of clans and tribes warring with each other? Where is Palestine mentioned in the Koran? Where was the Vilayet of Palestine in the Ottoman empire? They couldn't create a state in 1947, nor between 1949-1967, nor today because they have no national basis. The Kurds are a nation without a state.The Jews WERE a nation without a state. The "Palestinians" want a state but are not a nation!

[electr30]

The "Palestinians" want a state but are not a nation! SO THEY COULDN'T HAVE A STATE ... Exactly!!

[jgarbuz]

Ilan Pappe is a mischling, a Jew with German blood who hates Jews. Because the Germans did not recognize anyone with Jewish blood as Germans, and because no one wanted to take in many Jews, some of these German mischlings came to Palestine, for lack of any other place. Pappe and the rest of those mischlings have the right in Israel to smear the democratic Jewish state. In Muslim countries such renegades would be shot or beheaded. THey should be sent to their beloved "Palestinians" in hell.

[lebanese996]

They are tourchring them!!!!

I am not palastinan but damn the isrealies.If they were nice to us we could make peace with them!

[diamondheart06]

I AGREEE!!!!

[gunit8590]

that's a illusion, they can't be nice to u , they believe ther are humans higher classes, and they believe that whole palestine belongs to the zionists. and they occupied 25 years south lebenon, i would never trust a zionist, even if they would claim they want peace like 2005 they cleanse a few vsettlements in gaza and now we see the the conseqeuence, everybode thought israel did it in order to make peace, but they change gaza in to a prison and now they murdered thousans of civilians...

[imBrothersReport]

News the concerns Muslims!!!

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[okman360]

tell me paperwitness that god only loves does who love isreal out of all his creations. I can see that you have no knowledge what so ever and block from dishonesty and unjustment. tell me why does god love isreal so much why not the heavens more he does not hate does who dont like isreal and he loves all his creations from ants to humans to angles.

[highonlife613]

If you guys really wanna know more/the truth...... read Exodus by Leon Uris.

[PaperWitness]

They were told to leave by their own government because their government said they were going to win the war & they'd get their homes back.WRONG!Israel was surrounded on all sides & yet she still survived.Have u not figured it out yet!?ISRAEL is ordained by God!They r a STATE like it or not.u moan over a small piece of land.u people r very very sad people.God said,He will curse those who curse Israel.I have NO PITY for Palestine.You r hate mongers who deserve nothing!!!!!

[hossabu]

read The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Ilan Pappe

[ikran2007]

israel does this from the help of usa and eu country who supply weapons and money.they also

support dictators from arab leaders.

[Redmond91]

did they say he had 86 children and grandchildren that guy has been busy

[thomasmccom]

Only an idiot or a fascist would think a people have a right to just take another peoples' land from them.

The fact that Israel treats the Palestinians in Gaza no different than Hitler treated the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto should tell you everything you need to know about Zionism!

[collision934]

True what u say man, isreal treats palestinians just the way hitler treated jews by seperating them and killing them the jews dont use the same technique as the holocaust but slowly put Gaza in to devestation by keeping them cut off from the rest of the world and not allowing them much needed aid and medical treatment. what horrifies me is that america and other nations will critisise china on human rights abuses and the western media pay big attention to it but in the case of gaza- NOTHING

[collision934]

it's time to take israel toaccount 4its actions

[PaperWitness]

U have no education right?Gaza has a hospital.The hospital has emergency electricity.They were hiding guns in supplies coming in from Israel.What's wrong with you?They r firing rockets into Israel everyday.Count 2 15.Thats how long u have 2 find shelter from a bomb thats coming as u have just dropped your daughter off 4 school.And u r in the middle of a busy street with nowhere 2 run.But according 2 u,Israel is wrong b cuz they want the bombs 2 stop.

You are STUPID! God help this creature!!!!!!

[collision934]

i think u have no education can u read what i said palestninans who have severe illnesses and cannot revieve treatment in gaza and r not allowed 2 cross the borders and wen they kill teenagers nothing is said so shut ur mouth u wasteman

[arabi1024]

israel is wrong no matter what u say n u kno it so jus shut ur stupid ass up

[YaraA90]

woohoo!! SAY IT LOUDDD.

[PhobetorXVII]

@arabi1024 fuck you arab pig

itbah al arab

[mansorsam]

very well said

[Bloomfieldcrew]

@collision934

Yeah but they gave them land, and food and they started to fire rockets at towns. And come on not wine about how the jewish people stole their land, palestines started the war in 1948 and lost their land, there came more wars but they didn't thought of the fact that the jewish people had lost everything in the holocaust. So when they got their country, they will fight tot the end to defend it.

[pcangeldust]

@collision934 That's because the Zionist own/runs the media industry in the US and has strong influence in politics etc.

[ijosdeputisima]

move israel to florida¡¡¡¡

free all palestine for all palestinians¡¡¡¡¡

alahakbar¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡

[sana6]

2)refugees always GET back their HOMES because they are INNOCENT people. BUt what did Ben Gurion do, settle European Jews in abandoned Palis home. And how do you expect Egypt and Syria to help palis when they were going through eco-political changes (17 coup d'etat). Oil didn't become a major product until the 70s and naturally the Gulf is gonna focus on its self. Go to the territories and see for your self. Jimmy Carter, called it an apartheid, so did most Israeli historians. Refugees= INNOCENT

[flyingbird0214]

I've been to the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. In fact, I did a semester in Hebrew University two years ago. My floor mates mostly Israeli Arabs from Haifa and other small villages within Israel, they had families in the occupied territories. They were not unhappy. They felt lucky because they have educational and economic opportunities their Arab brothers didn't have. Two of them told me they wouldn't leave Israel for a newly formed Palestinian state.

[flyingbird0214]

Israel is still a democracy, for how much longer? Those students who want an independent Palestine want it model after Israel. They don't want a religious state.

Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and Jordan did their part to "help" the Palestinians, they went to war with Israel in 1948. The problem was that Jordan and Egypt were looking after the Palestinian land, not the people. They didn't help to create independent states in the territories they occupied. Only Jordan integrated them.

[sana6]

yeah i agree. But what i am saying is that the Palestinians should have their own state. And only aside from Saudia arab, there aren't any religious arab states. All of them are "democratic". Not allowing the Palestinians to have their own state, denying the return of Palestinian refugees to their lands in 48, and the continual occupation of the Territories is a violation of Human and INternational laws.

[Lav34me]

great, palestinians SHOULD have their own state. you are absolutely right. get rid of hamas, and its yours.

[isze737]

Get ride of Zionism and you have yours.

[Lav34me]

um... i beleive that israel IS a state. a ZIONIST state. um... moron.

[lastnymleft]

Israel initially FUNDED AND SUPPORTED Hamas as a way to offset the power of Arafat's Fatah party! Now, because of years of Israel's sanctions and weakening of the Palestinian power structure, Hamas wins the hearts and minds of Palestinians by providing aid and social facilities. And so Israel now supports Fatah! Duh! Just like the CIA funding and training Bin Laden, only to have the tables turned when they do the same as the Russians, having presence in Muslim holy lands. Blowback's a bitch, eh?

[Lav34me]

i beleive that the only people truly suffering from the effects of blowback, are the palestinian people. they should give their head a shake before its too late

[ronalda3132]

You have it wrong. It was because Hamas turned into a militant organization. In the beginning, Hamas just offered aid, in which Israel assisted them.

[lastnymleft]

"It was because Hamas turned into a militant organization. In the beginning, Hamas just offered aid, in which Israel assisted them"

Well that's the whole point of blowback: unintended consequences

And Israel wasn't innocently creating an aid organization. That's just nonsensical. They could put money to any number of aid organizations if they wanted

They were willfully creating and building up a Islamist political opponent to Arafat's secular Fatah-PLO

globalresearch. ca/articles/ZER403A.html

[PauloGVieira]

Idiot! So Hamas is the reason why there is no Palestinian state? It just keeps on changing all the time - before it was Fatah then the PLO then Arafat then Abbas was not a partner for peace and now its Hamas. Its excuses everytime!

The reality is that by 2020 the Palestinians will outnumber Israeli Jews so if I was Israel I would not leave this off much longer.

[PaperWitness]

Palestine had the chance 2 b a state in 1948.The UN made the offer when Israel was finally recognized as a state.Palestine refused bcuz they thought they were going to take Israel away from the Jews during the 1948 war.Think about it.They were surrounded on all sides by those that hated them,yet they still stand!God told Abraham that his seed would b a state.God does NOT break His covenants.God said,He will bless those who bless Israel & curse those who curse Israel.Abraham was Israel.God Bless

[PauloGVieira]

You telling me that in 1948 all Palestinians had the chance to live in a Palestinian state? You know full well that the 1947 partition would have left many Palestinians within an Israeli state.

"They were surrounded on all sides" - This is always good for a laugh, you're telling me that the Arab world united their forces against Israel? Do not lie to me, you know full well Israel colluded with Jordan to guarantee Jordanian sovereignty over the West Bank.

Forget your god and lets talk fact!

[lebanese996]

YEAH,YOU ROCK GOOD JOB!

[PauloGVieira]

You're an idiot! In the 1948 war Jordan was in secret talks with Israel to give it Palestine if it would allow Hashemite control over the West Bank.

[Lav34me]

refugees=innocent

hamas= GUILTY AS CHARGED

[flyingbird0214]

Unplanned parenthood is just one of the problems. It's the result of lack of education and poverty. And it's a vicious cycle. Lack of eduction brings unemployment. Unemployment results in poverty, and poverty creates resentment. So many children in a place that lacks economic opportunities results in people that become too dependent on foreign aid. Since men that can't provide for their families feel downgraded, they respond by instigating hate toward Israel and aid providers.

[sana6]

so i hope that sums it up for you flyingbird=)! best of luck in the future

[flawedbeauty82]

Now this is what makes me mad, it seems that the Palestinians were forced out of their village and into a state of apartheid for the last 60 years.

[Arabstanii008]

and its still happening now ..thing is Israel controls the USA and thats why our needs as the electorate are not fufilled with a world of Zionist capitalism domination!

[blunt1984]

You got that right. It angers me greatly because there's not much we can do about it. The pro-Israel (Zionist) lobby is about 20 times larger than the pro-Palestine lobby. So the Zionist have more money to bribe our politicians with.

[Arabstanii008]

yep and thats why many co-operations support israel like marks and spencers, starbucks etccc

[blunt1984]

Yeah, it's a good thing I don't drink that rip-off expensive coffee anyway. It sucks on the technology front though, cuz most every computer uses Intel microprocessors, and I've heard they support Israel as well.

[sana6]

learn something, prior to the end of the mandate, in May of 48, JEWISH militias occupied Arab cities and villages (Jaffa, Arce, etc). The ARabs didn't occupy one! MAybe you should read declassifed info or read what historians have to say. The arab armies numbere 30, 000 vs the Jewish 90 000. And since when are refugees responsible for fleeing b/c they are scared of their lives? ever head of DEIN YASSAR. The WORLD passed resolution 192 and 242 stating that the PALIS get back their homes