blur880 "I don't see how Muslims as a whole would be anymore a cult than Christians, Jews, or Buddhists. Even fundamentalism doesn't indicate "cult". "
Get your head out of the sand or may be ass and see that all the terrorism in the name of religion today is done only by muslims. Think about it and then learn some logic before you start thinking and speaking with your ass
I hate how they used the catholic church pictures in this video as a protestant pastor was talking about what he was. I'm catholic, and Fox news sucks.
what? did he just say at the end that it's against his religion to impose his religion?
But that's all that the religious right does, is seek to impose, to promote their beliefs, to get creationism in schools and faith into politics and make this a christian nation. Imposing is what it is to be religious to these people.
7/1/2008 (Mataban, Somalia) - Fifty-three people are killed in a series of ambushes by Islamic militants.7/1/2008 (Buhriz, Iraq) - Three members of the same family are murdered by Mujahideen bombers.
7/1/2008 (Mandali, Iraq) - A Fedayeen suicide bomber sends four Iraqis to Allah.
Ahhh, but many other numbers will top such a number. Hell, sick American idiots kill gays all the time.
My point was that Islam and Christianity aren't really that different. Supports of both have killed millions of people. Neither is all that pure. It is just personal bias and lack of knowledge/understanding.
Hell, in Iraq our "Christian" nation is killing thousands of Iraqis for the "greater good." It is acceptable casualty loss to us, but not to Iraq husbands, mothers, sons, etc.
Why should you declare any mass-grouping of people anything? That would seem like bigotry to me.
Declaring anyone is a p-zombie is pretty meaningless. It is just an unsubstantiated label. If I say that all capitalists are amoral beings, with hearts of stone, that doesn't really accomplish anything as far as any argument would be concerned.
I don't see how Muslims as a whole would be anymore a cult than Christians, Jews, or Buddhists. Even fundamentalism doesn't indicate "cult".
Bigotry and old school ethos aren't indicators of "cult" either. You say "they need psychiatric treatment," but what you really mean is that "they think differently."
Atheists think Christianity is a cult and nonsensical. Buddhists can just as easily be said to "need psychiatric treatment." From another prospect they are all worlds of make-believe.
I have a number of Muslim friends, and none fit the definition of p-zombie.
Ulike you I was a muslim at a time. My thinking was paralyzed by fear of hell and promise of paradise. The hate and bigotry I felt was necesssity for protection against insecurity . I felt no empathy for muslims or non-muslims. I only wanted to live in my cocooon of imaginary security.
That is why I feel Muslims need to be freed from this fear psychosis.
I think all cultist are trapped in the same situation.
You use the words unlike you, but you know nothing about me. Furthermore, you personal experience is only relevant to you. You can write a biography, but you cannot use it as the foundation of any argument. I could be a paralyzed, insecure atheist, but that isnt indicative for all atheists. Religion and spirituality is what you make it. Just cause you were nuts—well that only means you were nuts.
You cannot generalize about whole groups of people. It is bigotry.
If I go to a movie and hate it, does that mean that the movie is bad? No. That is your opinion. Does it mean that all movies by that director are bad?? No. That is no indication.
That is what you are doing with Muslims. You are generalizing based on your limited experience.
Sure, there are fundamental Muslims. I'm no fan. But, I'm also no fan of fundamental Christians or Atheists. I don't like fundamentalism.
Sure they do. Fundamentalist Christians blow up abortion clinics, adn they started the Crusades.
It is only Terrorism if it isn't your team.
I'm not defending terrorists, but I don't lots of Muslims who are much more loving and peaceful than many Christians I know. Stop with all the generalizing and bigotry.
First: Again, this video does nothing for your argument. I could just as easily send you a video about Christians bombing abortion clinics. If I did do that, it wouldn't prove that all Christians are p-zombies and nutso killers.
And, what you saying is bigotry. You are generalizing and stereotype millions of people who you don't even know--all based on your limited experiences and limited understanding.
I watched the video very closely. I have no idea why watching a video would make me "come with some objective comment." That doesn't even make sense. Your comments are quite subjective--based on just your minimal experiences, and my comments are of course subjective--though I would say that I appear much more objective than you.
You can say I'm the ignorant one, but you appear to have nothing intelligent to say or point out. You just stereotpye and general about people, which is bigotry.
You can't backup much of anything you say. Both your p-zombie comment and the video you sent establish nothing. There are huge gaps in your reasoning, but it is probably because you are an "exmuslim," and you have irrational hatred. It appears to cloud your intelligence and judgment.
You cannot just generalize about millions of people. Sure, some Muslims are crazy. Some Christians are crazy. Some Buddhists are crazy. But, you know nothing about "all Muslims." Open your eyes man.
blur880 - How dumb are you asshole. You keep barking like a crazy rabid dog and refuse to see my logic. If you have a brain bigger than a pea watch these videos and then talk. Mother fucker, I am fed up with you.
You can call me dumb and an asshole, but you haven't backed up any of your claims with anything intelligent.
When was I barking--or do you just like dogs now that you are an exmuslim?
I really don't see how any of these videos establish anything you say. Again, I could just send you a video about crazy Christian abortion clinic bombers! But, that would just be as dumb a form of argument as you throw out there.
Why don't you actually use words and intelligence--not videos.
Well, we can if you want. I guess that will be easier for you, since you are too lazy to formulate any quality arguments. You can just name-call and send me video links.
I'm quite sure that no one else will be shocked at the complexity and quality of your argument, because so far you have produced nothing of any substance.
If you are going to generalize and stereotype millions of people, at least do your homework first, so that you can at least support your opinions.
You have written yourself in your channel that you lived in woods. I showed you two videos and you could not come up with a single objective comment. You lack analytical abilities probably as a side effect of drug addiction.
Get lost you moron. I don't debate with dimwits, find someone dumb like yourself to debate with.
Have you study the history of Islam? If not I suggest that settle down right now. Like sawing if Nick Berg's head as he howled while the muslims recorded it was not hateful? You want that video? I saw it. Then you can tell me about how you feel about "ISLAM." Tell me in today's world, where do you see a Christian sawing off a persons head and broadcasting to the world? TELL ME!
If you generalize so greatly, every group of people includes the hateful and the nuts. It isn't Christianity, Islam, or atheism. It's just like anything, including "democracy," which can be used to conduct evil/hateful acts.
For hateful Christians, see the Westboro Baptist Church, read up on abortion clinic bombings, and research the Crusades.
I'm sure the Muslim world looks at media coverage of Abu Ghraib, shakes their heads, and says "That damn, evil Christian Nation."
Husband and I just viewed this video. We have attended Pastor Parsley's church and I know that all he says is TRUTH, read it in the Holy Bible KJV for yourself. It's amazing, and it makes me want to cry. The Bible is being fulfilled and people are going even crazier, instead of turning their eyes to Jesus and the TRUTH. It hurts me to my soul that so many are following 2 Tim 4:3-4. What a sad time it is for those who reject the truth.
Why exactly do you believe that all he says is the "TRUTH?" Almost no Christians support Parsley's theology. The Christian Research Institute and other Christian groups warn that Parsley doesn't always speak the truth.
Parsley also lives like a celebrity in a mansion, drives expensive cars, flies around in a private jet,etc.
This is why other evangelical Christians warn against Parsley's false teaching and cult-like Christianity.
... your misstatments have to do with not personly knowing the character of God and not seeing Him in supernatural manifestasion in your life with signs, wonders and miracles. If you knew God like that, and possibly you will in the future, it would be easier for you to discern the truth from a lie. So, i'll go now and leave you to your religion. We can continue this converstaion when it turns into a real tangible relationship.
More Christian elitism. It is just Christian Ivory tower talk. Parsley and Pentecostals make up a small percentage of the Christian church. They are the youngest denominations. Yet they continually think everyone else is wrong.
You claim to know whether I see miracles, you act like I don't have a personal relationship with God. Dagger in the heart, friend. You say the worst things you could to a person.
You just judge judge judge from your holier than thou tower.
IF you'd ever like to debate Biblical interpretation, I'd be glad to throw down. But you don't seem to actually want to talk about anything intellectually.
You prove your views with your views. It is all straw man speak. No substance. No reasoning.
But thanks for telling me that I don't know God and that I am a horrible Christian who is misguided and lost. You've put the icing on the cake on my birthday. I guess I won't meet anyone meaner than you today.
Again the money isnt from the ministry. I've worked around this for 20 years. Although they do get paid from the church, the wealth that they enjoy comes from the mulitple #1 best sellers that he has written. I still dont see why you have a problem with that.
AGAIN, I could care less where the money is from. IT IS ALL FROM PARSLEY SELLING GOD AS A COMODITY. Following? :)
AGAIN I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MONEY. I STATED THAT MY FUTURE INCOME WOULDN'T BE SMALL. Remember? :) Lets go forward, not backwards. I hate jogging in circles.
Anyway, it is all how you live and how you spend your money. Gluttony and living in gross excess is not a Christian lifestyle and is NOT supported by the Bible.
God makes it pretty plain. "Go ahead eat the fat and drink the sweet (live high on the hog) just dont forget to leave portions to those for whom nothing has been provided".
God loves lavish lifestyles. It's that simply. He wants us to have more than enough because there is always someone who doest have enough. I've seen these people give away houses, cars, land, money, etc. They wouldnt have been able to do that if they lived as you suggest and werent wise stewarts of their money.
So to be the bet Christian I can I need to trade my camry for a BMW and upgrade my house. I guess I basically need to live like a rap star to be godly.
I remember something about a penny and a woman from the Bible.
That is how I see it. I don't really care how much you give away, it isn't personal sacrifice. It is more impressive for a grad student to give $100 than Parsley to give a house away.
I think it is hard for a person to say they are a good giving person when they still own 20 cars, multiple mansions, planes, etc. I don't think Opra is special, nor do I think Parsley is special. Only Parsley claims God.
I have observed Pastor Parsley for years and believe him to be a man of God. I do not judge him as I have enough to judge myself as we are commanded to do.
Of course that would be true. I serve a Jesus who loves us all even though we all have warts, flaws, and etc... But his love demands we serve him. Jesus said, If you love me you will keep my commandments and let him who is without sin cast the first stone. I will let him handle the flaws of others.
Sure thing. I guess any further than that and it just depends what you consider flaws. I had a wart though. Nothing that 30 cents worht of dry ice won't handle.
I wouldn't be wrong, but I'd concede them not being bigots, if I thought it was actually true. I do, however, think Parsley is a bigot and a fraud, and given how loud he yells, it would be hard to disagree with him and still sit in the phew each week.
I don't always agree with my pastor, but if there becomes great disagreement, I leave. I left my church of ten years after their childish and unfortunate reaction to finding out their former youth pastor was gay.
Too bad people are following these gutless scum like Joel Osteen and Creflo Dollar. We need more REAL precahers of RIGHTEOUSNESS like Parsley. This country has sold out to everything but GOD and we are being judged for it!!
Righteousness=hate and elitism? Exclusivity with God?
"Perverted mother-fuckers who are trying to justify fagdom"??? No wonder you like Parsley. You guys are bed buddies in your little all-night hate fest. You hate people who aren't like you, and then you have the audacity to call Bush a Nazi on your page? You are the Adolf, man.
By punk-ass fuck-heads do you meet people who don't hate others just because they believe different things?
I'm sure you enjoy the sermons of Mr. Hagee too.
I thought America was the home of religious and personal freedom? I thought it was supposed to be a place where people weren't persecuted simply for what they believed? Some fucking patriot you are—unless by patriot you mean Neo-Nazi. Is that what you mean? I'm glad we have a constitution to protect people from people like you.
Parsley sells God for money like TV stations sell reality television. He is a fake. I sure he will get caught in a scandal very shortly--just like all of the other outlandish evangelical, radical preachers.
America is one of the most conservative countries in the world. If we are so bad, God must really hate the rest of the world.
Where were you in the begining years when he worked for no salary? Where were you when he was making $30 dollars a week. He began his ministry from scratch, with nothing because he wanted to help people and now he has helped thousands around the world. He's been in ministry for 30 years, so if you're waiting on a scandal you might want to pack a lunch.
Most people work for nothing or peanuts in the beginning. It is nothing unusually noble--unless you think I am super noble, too.
Parsleys and his church won't even release his annual income. He most likely makes millions. He lives in a gated mansion with guards for crying out loud.
He is a fraud, a false prophet who sells whatever people are buying.
The church isnt required 2 release hs salary but ud better believe the IRS knows & so does the independent board who decides his salary... Oh you probably didnt know that he has an independent board composed of people he has no contact with who decide his salary. If you knew that you wouldnt make such wild accusations. Who am i kidding, reality doesnt matter to you. Tell u what just go ahead and forget the facts, they only complicate minds like urs.
Oh course they aren't required. Well, I honestly don't care who decides his salary. He sells God and makes millions doing it. It's no wild accusation that he lives in a gated mansion with security guards. That's reality.
You say I forget the facts, but you point to know specifics. Parsley is a fraud. He's a false prophet who commercializes God for cash. He is a marketeer.
I doubt God smiles at any preacher that lives in a mansion and surrounds himself with wealth and worldly goods.
Sorry but a 4,500 sq ft house is NOT a mansion and it's nothing to be ashamed of especially if he didnt pay for it. It was a blessing to his family. Yes there are tmes when the local Police have to come out to his place and the ministry because of the constant death threats. If he wants to simply make money there's no reason to be stir up the controversy. You cant have both. Either he cares about what hes doing or hes a fraud and sticks to the simple stuff. Well he doesnt make things very easy.
4500 is pretty damn big for a man of God. I believe my pastor's house is probably about 1600 square feet. His house is huge, maybe not the biggest. However, it still puts him in the top 1% of Americans who own houses!
Stirring up controversy is the BEST way to make money. The more divisive the better. Have you taken business classes?
Yelling and screaming makes him famous. He is a TV whore for Heaven sakes. He sells God for money and fame. He is a fraud.
Do you see Jesus living in a 4500 square foot house??
Most 4500 sq ft houses I know sell for well over a million dollars, even where real estate is cheap. Many celebrities have 4500 sq ft houses. Sure, some have 10,000 sq feet, but 4500 is still quite large.
I'm a lawyer, my wife is going to med school. I doubt we will ever own a 4500 sq ft home.
If you are a Christian I don't see how you CAN'T question Parsleys life style. You act like 4500 sq ft is small. He lives on a 21 acre compound with an electric gate. They have stables, etc. They have two children but have five bedrooms. His parents also live next door in a million dollar home. Parsley also owns a seven-passenger jet.
This man speaks for money and worldly goods. He is a disgrace to all the missionaries I know who live on peanuts--real Christians.
You wouldnt like heaven very much with all those mansions and streets of gold and stuff. Every person who obeyed the commands of God was blessed (hebrew means envied by all nations).
Okay as to the first verse you dont know the man and I can personally tell you he lives like that. You dont know of the cars, houses and planes he's given away.
the camel vs is talking about humility and those who build their own wealth have difficulty being humble at times. not even applicable.
the actual verse are "blessed are poor in spirit"
Again your assuming heaven is on a budget and your assuming he paid that much for his house.
Actually "he" doesnt own a Jet. The ministry owns it and he doesnt have any horses. YOu should really stay off the websites. You seem to believe them like they're gospel.
Yes Pastor Parsley has built his own wealth without using ministry funds. I still dont see how you can have a proplem with that unless you have some sore to marxist few that entitles you to say who should have what.
All the sources I have read (over 10, including at least one evangelical church site) indicated that it is his jet. But it is probably not in his name. His house isn't even in his name--his wife holds it in trust. He does fancy lawyer to hide his money and avoid tax liability.
Because God has no problem with wealth and neither do I. You and your wife seem to be working pretty hard for the mighty dollar, should I question your integrity as well?
I am sorry. I forgot how the Bible talks about "Live in a large home." And, isn't it Matthew 12:23 that says "Those that own private jets get to Heaven faster??"
Like I said, my wife and I will be making $400,000 plus per year when she is done with school. I don't think making money is necessarily bad. But, I'll still have a small house, drive a Camry, etc.
Think of all the good Parsley could do with $900,000, instead of having 3 extra bedrooms and a jet.
You probably also forgot Deut. 8:18; Pro. 10:22; Luke 6:38; 2 Cor. 8; Phil 4:18; 3 Jn 2 etc. You have 2 false assumptions. #1 Heaen is NOT on a budget and #2 your assuming he used "good tithe dollars" to buy his home.
He is a preacher who speaks negatively against a lot of different groups. He is self-righteous. I have every right to call bullshit. So, I'm calling bullshit.
His church is a corporation run by his family who get rich. He sells God. Wealth isn't necessarily evil. Once again, I'll say, in 5 years my household income will be $400,000. But, I'm buying no 4,500 sq ft house, and I'm no preacher.
Are you a member of his crazy church? Is that why you defend him?
I think preachers should have the nicest houses in America, drive the nicest cars and have their family very well provided for. Especially those how put their lives on the line to speak truth. Especially those who do the work that folks like you are afraid or unwilling to do that saves millions of lives. What about that by the way. How do you reconcile your venom for this Pastor with the hudreds of thousands that have literally been saved by his ministry.
"I think preachers should have the nicest houses in America, drive the nicest cars and have their family very well provided for."
Well, I think that is nuts. SUre they should have a nice house--but a 5-bedroom million dollar home is celebrity style, idol worship.
How does Parsley put his life on the line? I know many people that do much better and harder things than he does. It must be hard living in a mansion and flying in a jet and talking on TY--my friends in China risk their lives.
This is not even an argument you should be involved in. You dont know what he's done or what he does on a daily basis. All you know is what you've heard.
So I need to know everyone personally? You can't say anything about Obama or HIlliary or Bush since you don't know them? As a historian I can't speak about Washington? As a pastor Parsley can't speak about biblical characters, God?
Wrong. We can look at what these people do, just as you could look to see what pastor parsley does. My point is that "you" dont know what they do neither do you care to know bc it's more fun to throw stones.
No. YOU ARE WRONG. I'm not a liberal. I'm not an atheist. I'm not anti-Christian. I don't go around yelling about how stupid Christianity is. But, given my love for my religion, I speak out against false prophets. And, I speak out against Christian cult mentality. I speak out against bigotry and hate and needless divisiveness.
As a man of the law, I support equality. I support separation of church and state.
As a historian, I support intellectual understand and the factual truth.
I visited the auditor's website. This is hard evidence. The Parsley's have three plots of land, all bought with Corporate God money. The two houses on the land alone are valued at almost $2 million. The three plots total over $2 million with land--and that is not even MARKET VALUE. Add another $500,000 for market value. Swimming pools, huge ponds with gazebo islands, huge driveways, five bed, five bath. FIVE BATHROOMS FOR 4 PEOPLE!!! He worships porcelain :).
Because i have worked closely with the financing of the particular ministry for 20 years and in that time if i would have seen one thing even remotely resembling what you so ignorantly suggest, I would be out of there quicker than you can say boo. I know the inner workings of their lives and their ministry and know FIRST hand (unlike some) exactly what goes on and why.
So, I don't care who you have worked with unless it was Parsley and his church.
Been a Christian for 20 years, best friend's in seminary. Best friend's father a pastor. My father is a leading protestant history. I have 3-4 great friends who are missionaries. Went to a church that heavily funded missionaries. And, I got my latter education at a Jesuit university--but I'm sure you hate Jesuits.
But, again, you continually tell me how much you know and how little I know. Elitism?
Again that's a stretch. Im simply telling you that youd dont know the Parsley's or their minsistry has i have since i have in fact worked with them for 20 years.
The fact is that your so religous you have made the power of God of such little effect that the Holy Spirit cant even talk to you and tell you when you're wrong. Since you wont allow HIM to talk to you I suppose Im waising my breath. You desprately need to have a personal relationship with the Holy Spirit...
This is just more Christian elitism. You are spouting just what I talked about earlier. I'm this. I'm that. You act like you know about my relationship with God. It sickens me.
See, I don't judge people like Christian elitists. I challenge facts. I'll let them they are nuts, but I never tell them they don't know God. I don't tell them they are going to hell. I don't pretend to know their relationship with any of the trinity.
I am not a member but only bc i live several states away but i have studied Hebrew and Greek for many years and am a student of the Bible and know that his ministry is in line with the biblical record.
I understand that you dissagree but all the years of wrong info you've learned about the Bible doenst make this pastor wrong. you cant just take out vs for your own use you have to read every verse in light of the rest of the 66 books of cannon. And in light of those books this man is rignt on
Yeah if i think im right, that means i think your wrong. And that makes me an elitist? You're the one on the attack and we're the ones on the defense. Maybe you should take those powers of perception to a mirror.
The income used for his home, cars etc. dosent come from offerings given to the church. He has a resonable salary from the ministry that is decided by an independent board. His "wealth" comes from the 5 best selling books he has written and I dont see how that's a problem.
Pastor Parsley doesnt judge or hate anyone. I have personally seen him love and care for those of differing faiths and lifestyles including those from the homosexual community. Neither does he promote hate. But he does stand for what he believes while respecting those who hold those beliefs. There is nothing wrong with believing that a lifestyle is wrong as long as you dont let that affect your veiw of the individual. Why cant we show the same tolorence for him that we expect from him?
Funny how only gays and far-left liberal scum find Parsley offensive and yet these same fuckers rejoiced with enlightenment when they heard Obama's pastor Wright say: God damn America!
MauricePedro, you are a non-thinking adult. His statement that you start with a system of beliefs is correct. You have a world view, I just can't tell from what you say what it is except that it is not the Christian world view. Your statements seem to be a Satanic world view - do whatever is right in your own eyes. What pop star is your world view taken from?
I'm not a Satanist and my world view is not Satanic. However I don't believe in this guy's world view. He is stuck in a narrow christian world. It was people like him that burned witches and killed natives and Indians all around the world. I think he is a moron.
ScrewThePCPolice: Hello, I'm a live-long Christian and Parsley is the greatest of idiots. He is a false prophet who preaches hate, and acts in ways that Jesus never would have. If Jesus came today he would lead a team of homosexuals to tear down Parsely's falsehoods, and they would go to the club afterwards. Why do Christians spend so much energy judging others when they can't even deal with their own problems? God is love, not hate and judgment.
I don't see what is so bad about that statement. I guess I am just not a elitest Christian who goes around supporting hate speech. Parsley is a nut who is good for no one.
I must have forgotten the part of the Bible where it talks about how Jesus only hung out with Bible-toting Christians who lived only as he believed they should. I guess I forgot how Jesus entered on a public platform of hate speech against all religions that were not Christian and how evil they all are. Man.
the funny thing is on fox if there is a muslim women telling them that she loves her religion they will presser her..... but a christen extremist.."ah we will let him go this time"
Funny how only gays and far-left liberal scum find Parsley offensive and yet these same fuckers rejoiced with enlightenment when they heard Obama's pastor Wright say: God damn America!
Adobe, As an athiest, you do worship someone. Why not state who it is?? I will venture who it is and it is .... Satan. Well, Jesus said "you vipers..." Is that tolerant or is that calling a wolf a wolf instead of a wolf a sheep?
If you're an atheists that's your fault. I decided to read the bible for myself, and refuse to let humans dictate what I believe and what I don't. So how's the atheist life working for ya=]But then again if that is what you believe to each his own.
Jesus was smart, so there is no way that's possible. WAR? Look smart ass read about the Barbary Wars... We've been fighting with these morons since 1801. They declared war on us in 1979 my friend. We have been dealing with this sh*t for 30 years.
Islam the religion of peace (and a big stack of dead bodies)LMAO
Haha! Then if you studied Jesus you would know that statement is false. I just took some bible college courses andsummarized the entire bible... What do I know. LOL.
Jesus believed in succor for the poor. Progressivism -- the superstitious belief that things will necessarily and continuously improve -- is an intramundane eschatology and therefore a deformation of the apocalyptic aspect of Christianity.
Well, you need to brush up on your terminology. Progressivism, of course, is not a belief that "things will necessarily and continuously improve." It also isn't an "intramundane eschatology," but thumbs up for big words.
"therefore a deformation of the apocalyptic aspect of Christianity."
First, this is just circular reasoning. Second, regardless of its circular nature, it doesn't make any sense. But I wouldn't expect it to make sense, since you don't know what Progressivism is.
"Progressivism, of course, is not a belief that 'things will necessarily and continuously improve.'"
Then you are obliged to define Progressivism. Please use Condorcet, Saint-Simon, Comte, Hegel and Spencer as references -- no UNESCO blather about equality, human rights et al.
Pagan thinkers didn't believe in Progress. One must believe in the heaven in the afterlife before one can believe in a heaven on earth.
First, I'm not obliged to do anything. You are the one who attempted to correct me without knowing what you were talking about. Second, I can and will define anything via any source I chose. I won't use Hegel; I won't use UNESCO—don't know why I would. Just open your Webster's Unabridged. There you go.
"Pagan thinkers didn't believe in Progress. One must believe in the heaven in the afterlife before one can believe in a heaven on earth."
"Perhaps because he was one of the chief prophets of Progress."
Perhaps it is because Hegel has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Have you opened Webster's Unabridged yet??? You like big words; figured you owned 5 copies.
"Its about the gnostic religion you unwittingly adhere to."
Whatever, man. I don't need to defend my Christianity too you. There is no point doing so with your type. You don't understand Progressivism, and you are already throwing judgments around.
Thank you... I noticed how the Jeremiah thing passed into obscurity. Most liberals don't read, they take small left views from here and there with no research and come to a conclusions. 90% of the people that I know that support Obama are borderline illiterate. I would just leave it alone, it is obvious that you guys are unevenly yoked in knowledge=]
MEGAN, youve lived ALL over the world & you know so MUCH about ppl & religion?
hmm well ive lived in MANY places "all over the world" too & what IVE found in over 5 decades of life is that "other ppl" DO read the bible "all over the world"
Christians in China, Japan, India, Israel,etc. often have a STRONGER faith as opposed to "American christians" due to political/ cultural differences.
Before your next "hate rant" test your wordskills. "Biblical worldview" is not what you think it is.
I will pray right now that the God of the Bible convict you of your sinful ways. You are in need of a Saviour. What anger you have. One of Satan's demons live in you right now and may it be cast out of you before the end of your life.
THERE IS NO BIBLICAL WORLD VIEW YOU WORTHLESS BAG OF FECES. Goddamn, why don't these sorry sacks of sanctimonious snake shit take their myopic world views and stick 'em up their collective asses? By the way, I've lived all over the world and most people have never read the bibles; however, the word for asshole in China and India is "parsley."
Rod Parsely is CORRECT and liberals and other leftists should stop with their presuppositions which lead to wrong conclusions and instead stand aside, look the facts and arrive at the truth. If you're right, you will agree with the Parsleys, Hagees, Bushs, Romneys, Reagans, Robertsons, etc of the same stripes.
Rod Parsley is an arrogant, full-of-himself, egomaniacal, manipulative, loud mouthed con man. Why anyone would take this Shyster seriously shows how sick, frightenend, low self-esteemed and ignorant most Americans truly are!
this guy reminds me of hitler the fear mongerer, its the sheeple of america that should wake up and stop falling for this crap! fair and balanced my ass! This guy attracts the same lame brainwashed walking dead in America, i'm embarassed that we have this type of slime in America.
this fool tries SOOOO hard to sound brilliant , and idiots who want desperately to follow something hear his old fashioned attempts at appearing well and clear spoken , and his using words larger than what they themselves use or know the meaning of as an indication that he 'MUST' know what he speaks about , and therefore has the 'message' for them...he blabs on , yet says NOTHING
Rod Parsley is a zionist agent working for the Rothschilds in order to infiltrate zionism into christianity. In one o his sermons, he exposes the Federal Reserve which is owned by the Rothschilds. Why would he 'expose' the people he's working for? TO GAIN THE TRUST OS CHRISTIANS & LEAD THEM INTO THE WRONG DIRECTION. Rosie O'donnell will never have another job in hollywood again because she pesued Truth instead of prosperity, something Parsley preaches but doesn't practice.
i think this guy above me needs to do his home work before he talks alot of crap that he made up,i was a member of pastor parsley's church and while i was there i found that rod parsley is one of the most solid christian's i have ever met.he is also a very VERY smart man and he knows his stuff so before you touch his anointing you had better check yourself god bless!!!
I'm burning his book tomorrow
n987 5 months ago
All religion is crap. Grow up people.
Jonathanedward2010 7 months ago
may God bless this bold pastor and may God raise more pastors after His own heart that will preach the truth of the Word of God
LordJesusIlove 8 months ago
He is a Fake and I hope GOD brings him down
Bmac47fjc 1 year ago
fox, how typical to have such harry ticks, or heretics on their program.
herockdoza 1 year ago
huh?
cdawg3712 1 year ago
I'm so happy to be a member at his church!!!
Sarah83081 1 year ago 3
@Sarah83081 I am happy to be a member of his Church to and attend his school!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@Sarah83081 I am happy to be a member of his Church to and attend his school!!!!
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this pastor speaks about islam and God without knowledge. my question to him : can he proves the existence of god scientifically
islamandtruth 2 years ago
blur880 "I don't see how Muslims as a whole would be anymore a cult than Christians, Jews, or Buddhists. Even fundamentalism doesn't indicate "cult". "
Get your head out of the sand or may be ass and see that all the terrorism in the name of religion today is done only by muslims. Think about it and then learn some logic before you start thinking and speaking with your ass
exmuslim007 3 years ago
rod parsly is fuckin nuts.
daryl3161 3 years ago
Ever heard of sepperation of church and state?
younggun708 3 years ago
ever heard of seperation of state from church?
qwuad60 3 years ago
I hate how they used the catholic church pictures in this video as a protestant pastor was talking about what he was. I'm catholic, and Fox news sucks.
job1201204 3 years ago
what? did he just say at the end that it's against his religion to impose his religion?
But that's all that the religious right does, is seek to impose, to promote their beliefs, to get creationism in schools and faith into politics and make this a christian nation. Imposing is what it is to be religious to these people.
So what he said made no sense.
GretchenDawntreader 3 years ago
7/1/2008 (Mataban, Somalia) - Fifty-three people are killed in a series of ambushes by Islamic militants.7/1/2008 (Buhriz, Iraq) - Three members of the same family are murdered by Mujahideen bombers.
7/1/2008 (Mandali, Iraq) - A Fedayeen suicide bomber sends four Iraqis to Allah.
shellezzle1 3 years ago
Islam a Religion of Peace (latest peace offerings)
7/2/2008 (Jerusalem, Israel) - Four people are killed when a Palestinian goes on a violent rampage with a bulldozer.
7/2/2008 (Narathiwat, Thailand) - Islamic gunmen murder a woman shortly after she drops her daughter off at school.
7/1/2008 (Swat, Pakistan) - An elderly woman is among five people shot to death by Islamists in four separate attacks.
shellezzle1 3 years ago
I can start listing of abortion clinic bombings and who many people American "Christians" have killed/harmed.
blur880 3 years ago
Ok, go ahead, we will see if the number tops muslim fanatics who have killed gays.
elyksander 3 years ago
Ahhh, but many other numbers will top such a number. Hell, sick American idiots kill gays all the time.
My point was that Islam and Christianity aren't really that different. Supports of both have killed millions of people. Neither is all that pure. It is just personal bias and lack of knowledge/understanding.
Hell, in Iraq our "Christian" nation is killing thousands of Iraqis for the "greater good." It is acceptable casualty loss to us, but not to Iraq husbands, mothers, sons, etc.
blur880 3 years ago
Muslims should be declared p-zombies and Islam Islam a Zombie cult. google p-zombie to understand what I mean.
Human rights cannot be applied to p-zombies. They need psychiatric treatment
exmuslim007 3 years ago
Why should you declare any mass-grouping of people anything? That would seem like bigotry to me.
Declaring anyone is a p-zombie is pretty meaningless. It is just an unsubstantiated label. If I say that all capitalists are amoral beings, with hearts of stone, that doesn't really accomplish anything as far as any argument would be concerned.
I don't see how Muslims as a whole would be anymore a cult than Christians, Jews, or Buddhists. Even fundamentalism doesn't indicate "cult".
blur880 3 years ago
Bigotry and old school ethos aren't indicators of "cult" either. You say "they need psychiatric treatment," but what you really mean is that "they think differently."
Atheists think Christianity is a cult and nonsensical. Buddhists can just as easily be said to "need psychiatric treatment." From another prospect they are all worlds of make-believe.
I have a number of Muslim friends, and none fit the definition of p-zombie.
blur880 3 years ago
Ulike you I was a muslim at a time. My thinking was paralyzed by fear of hell and promise of paradise. The hate and bigotry I felt was necesssity for protection against insecurity . I felt no empathy for muslims or non-muslims. I only wanted to live in my cocooon of imaginary security.
That is why I feel Muslims need to be freed from this fear psychosis.
I think all cultist are trapped in the same situation.
exmuslim007 3 years ago
You use the words unlike you, but you know nothing about me. Furthermore, you personal experience is only relevant to you. You can write a biography, but you cannot use it as the foundation of any argument. I could be a paralyzed, insecure atheist, but that isnt indicative for all atheists. Religion and spirituality is what you make it. Just cause you were nuts—well that only means you were nuts.
blur880 3 years ago
You cannot generalize about whole groups of people. It is bigotry.
If I go to a movie and hate it, does that mean that the movie is bad? No. That is your opinion. Does it mean that all movies by that director are bad?? No. That is no indication.
That is what you are doing with Muslims. You are generalizing based on your limited experience.
Sure, there are fundamental Muslims. I'm no fan. But, I'm also no fan of fundamental Christians or Atheists. I don't like fundamentalism.
blur880 3 years ago
blur880 - Fundamentalists Christians do notdo what Fundamentalist muslims do - That is terrorism
exmuslim007 3 years ago
Sure they do. Fundamentalist Christians blow up abortion clinics, adn they started the Crusades.
It is only Terrorism if it isn't your team.
I'm not defending terrorists, but I don't lots of Muslims who are much more loving and peaceful than many Christians I know. Stop with all the generalizing and bigotry.
blur880 3 years ago
blur880 - Do yourself and us a favor. Watch this watch?v=UQS_Wy8MKvw and then try to comment something intelligent.
And stop calling others bigot you selfrighteous idiot.
exmuslim007 3 years ago
First: Again, this video does nothing for your argument. I could just as easily send you a video about Christians bombing abortion clinics. If I did do that, it wouldn't prove that all Christians are p-zombies and nutso killers.
And, what you saying is bigotry. You are generalizing and stereotype millions of people who you don't even know--all based on your limited experiences and limited understanding.
How is any of that self-righteous?
blur880 3 years ago
I am not interested in debating with you. You obviously did not watch the video. Had you done that you would have come up with some objective comment.
You are scared that watching the video might destroy the bliss of your self-righteous ignorance.
Get lost
exmuslim007 3 years ago
I watched the video very closely. I have no idea why watching a video would make me "come with some objective comment." That doesn't even make sense. Your comments are quite subjective--based on just your minimal experiences, and my comments are of course subjective--though I would say that I appear much more objective than you.
You can say I'm the ignorant one, but you appear to have nothing intelligent to say or point out. You just stereotpye and general about people, which is bigotry.
blur880 3 years ago
You can't backup much of anything you say. Both your p-zombie comment and the video you sent establish nothing. There are huge gaps in your reasoning, but it is probably because you are an "exmuslim," and you have irrational hatred. It appears to cloud your intelligence and judgment.
You cannot just generalize about millions of people. Sure, some Muslims are crazy. Some Christians are crazy. Some Buddhists are crazy. But, you know nothing about "all Muslims." Open your eyes man.
blur880 3 years ago
blur880 - How dumb are you asshole. You keep barking like a crazy rabid dog and refuse to see my logic. If you have a brain bigger than a pea watch these videos and then talk. Mother fucker, I am fed up with you.
watch?v=gMLJJEDDDGc
watch?v=mjq5Vi9Gc68
exmuslim007 3 years ago
You can call me dumb and an asshole, but you haven't backed up any of your claims with anything intelligent.
When was I barking--or do you just like dogs now that you are an exmuslim?
I really don't see how any of these videos establish anything you say. Again, I could just send you a video about crazy Christian abortion clinic bombers! But, that would just be as dumb a form of argument as you throw out there.
Why don't you actually use words and intelligence--not videos.
blur880 3 years ago
Should we leave the conclusion on others- Crazy dog blur880
exmuslim007 3 years ago
Well, we can if you want. I guess that will be easier for you, since you are too lazy to formulate any quality arguments. You can just name-call and send me video links.
I'm quite sure that no one else will be shocked at the complexity and quality of your argument, because so far you have produced nothing of any substance.
If you are going to generalize and stereotype millions of people, at least do your homework first, so that you can at least support your opinions.
blur880 3 years ago
Your verbal diarrhea continues mixed with farts of prejudice and irrationality.
Are you on drugs ? I know that is a stupid question to ask to a Hippie.
exmuslim007 3 years ago
Nothing you just said makes any sense. You can't say anything reasonable, so you just spout the profane like a 12-year-old boy.
Prejudice? How am I prejudice. Nothing I've said invokes anything of the nature. You on the other hand?
blur880 3 years ago
You assume I'm a hippie? Why? You assume that I'm a hippie just like you assume you know how all Muslims think.
You think Muslims are irrational p-zombies, but you can't reason. If you want to debate, debate me. If you can't, then keep name calling.
blur880 3 years ago
Go back to woods, crazy bastard. And stop smoking grass
exmuslim007 3 years ago
What do the woods have to do with anything? What does smoking grass have to do with anything?
Is it just that I'm smarter than you, you cannot out argue me?
Get an education, and then talk to me. Right now all you can do is call people names. I could do that when I was 8. You are a little behind.
If you are smarter than a child, I invite you to use your brain.
blur880 3 years ago
You have written yourself in your channel that you lived in woods. I showed you two videos and you could not come up with a single objective comment. You lack analytical abilities probably as a side effect of drug addiction.
Get lost you moron. I don't debate with dimwits, find someone dumb like yourself to debate with.
exmuslim007 3 years ago
"You have written yourself in your channel that you lived in woods."
Ha! That is from the beginning of Henry david Thoreau's book Waden, one of the most famous books ever written. You should read more.
I lack no "analyitcal abilities," and no comments are objective. Everything's subjective.
I'd never done a drug, besides coffee. I don't even smoke.
You can call me a moron, but the fact is that I'm smarter than you and can out debate you anytime. Try me--or just act like a child.
blur880 3 years ago
Run out of dumb things to say?
blur880 3 years ago
Use your brains, EVERYTHING IS POLITICAL!
I find it funny how no one is appalled at the actions of Islam, but Christians are the evil ones.
shellezzle1 3 years ago
Isn't that statment filled with bigotry? You just insulted 3.6 billion people, most of whom you have never met and know nothing about.
blur880 3 years ago
Have you study the history of Islam? If not I suggest that settle down right now. Like sawing if Nick Berg's head as he howled while the muslims recorded it was not hateful? You want that video? I saw it. Then you can tell me about how you feel about "ISLAM." Tell me in today's world, where do you see a Christian sawing off a persons head and broadcasting to the world? TELL ME!
shellezzle1 3 years ago
If you generalize so greatly, every group of people includes the hateful and the nuts. It isn't Christianity, Islam, or atheism. It's just like anything, including "democracy," which can be used to conduct evil/hateful acts.
For hateful Christians, see the Westboro Baptist Church, read up on abortion clinic bombings, and research the Crusades.
I'm sure the Muslim world looks at media coverage of Abu Ghraib, shakes their heads, and says "That damn, evil Christian Nation."
blur880 3 years ago
He refuses to be another screaming voice trying to move people to political extremes? Bullshit!
BULLSHIT!
Watch the video *Rod Parsley on the "War on Christians"*. He is a raving lunatic.
Cherrycakeshaman 3 years ago
All Rod does is move people to political extremes.
blur880 3 years ago
Husband and I just viewed this video. We have attended Pastor Parsley's church and I know that all he says is TRUTH, read it in the Holy Bible KJV for yourself. It's amazing, and it makes me want to cry. The Bible is being fulfilled and people are going even crazier, instead of turning their eyes to Jesus and the TRUTH. It hurts me to my soul that so many are following 2 Tim 4:3-4. What a sad time it is for those who reject the truth.
CJAM457 3 years ago
Why exactly do you believe that all he says is the "TRUTH?" Almost no Christians support Parsley's theology. The Christian Research Institute and other Christian groups warn that Parsley doesn't always speak the truth.
Parsley also lives like a celebrity in a mansion, drives expensive cars, flies around in a private jet,etc.
This is why other evangelical Christians warn against Parsley's false teaching and cult-like Christianity.
blur880 3 years ago
... your misstatments have to do with not personly knowing the character of God and not seeing Him in supernatural manifestasion in your life with signs, wonders and miracles. If you knew God like that, and possibly you will in the future, it would be easier for you to discern the truth from a lie. So, i'll go now and leave you to your religion. We can continue this converstaion when it turns into a real tangible relationship.
Honestly it has been fun chatting with you.
Take Care.
gdsswd 3 years ago
More Christian elitism. It is just Christian Ivory tower talk. Parsley and Pentecostals make up a small percentage of the Christian church. They are the youngest denominations. Yet they continually think everyone else is wrong.
You claim to know whether I see miracles, you act like I don't have a personal relationship with God. Dagger in the heart, friend. You say the worst things you could to a person.
You just judge judge judge from your holier than thou tower.
blur880 3 years ago
IF you'd ever like to debate Biblical interpretation, I'd be glad to throw down. But you don't seem to actually want to talk about anything intellectually.
You prove your views with your views. It is all straw man speak. No substance. No reasoning.
But thanks for telling me that I don't know God and that I am a horrible Christian who is misguided and lost. You've put the icing on the cake on my birthday. I guess I won't meet anyone meaner than you today.
blur880 3 years ago
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blur880 3 years ago
Again the money isnt from the ministry. I've worked around this for 20 years. Although they do get paid from the church, the wealth that they enjoy comes from the mulitple #1 best sellers that he has written. I still dont see why you have a problem with that.
gdsswd 3 years ago
AGAIN, I could care less where the money is from. IT IS ALL FROM PARSLEY SELLING GOD AS A COMODITY. Following? :)
AGAIN I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MONEY. I STATED THAT MY FUTURE INCOME WOULDN'T BE SMALL. Remember? :) Lets go forward, not backwards. I hate jogging in circles.
Anyway, it is all how you live and how you spend your money. Gluttony and living in gross excess is not a Christian lifestyle and is NOT supported by the Bible.
blur880 3 years ago
God makes it pretty plain. "Go ahead eat the fat and drink the sweet (live high on the hog) just dont forget to leave portions to those for whom nothing has been provided".
God loves lavish lifestyles. It's that simply. He wants us to have more than enough because there is always someone who doest have enough. I've seen these people give away houses, cars, land, money, etc. They wouldnt have been able to do that if they lived as you suggest and werent wise stewarts of their money.
gdsswd 3 years ago
God is pretty plain? :)
So to be the bet Christian I can I need to trade my camry for a BMW and upgrade my house. I guess I basically need to live like a rap star to be godly.
blur880 3 years ago
I remember something about a penny and a woman from the Bible.
That is how I see it. I don't really care how much you give away, it isn't personal sacrifice. It is more impressive for a grad student to give $100 than Parsley to give a house away.
I think it is hard for a person to say they are a good giving person when they still own 20 cars, multiple mansions, planes, etc. I don't think Opra is special, nor do I think Parsley is special. Only Parsley claims God.
blur880 3 years ago
I have observed Pastor Parsley for years and believe him to be a man of God. I do not judge him as I have enough to judge myself as we are commanded to do.
richbari 3 years ago
I just think it is sad how "men of God" can be such bigots. Bigot pastors create a bigot congregation. Bigot congregations create bigot children.
blur880 3 years ago
Of course that would be true. I serve a Jesus who loves us all even though we all have warts, flaws, and etc... But his love demands we serve him. Jesus said, If you love me you will keep my commandments and let him who is without sin cast the first stone. I will let him handle the flaws of others.
richbari 3 years ago
Sure thing. I guess any further than that and it just depends what you consider flaws. I had a wart though. Nothing that 30 cents worht of dry ice won't handle.
blur880 3 years ago
So... if you were to meet folks from his church and find out that they werent bigots then you'd have to concede that you're wrong?
gdsswd 3 years ago
I wouldn't be wrong, but I'd concede them not being bigots, if I thought it was actually true. I do, however, think Parsley is a bigot and a fraud, and given how loud he yells, it would be hard to disagree with him and still sit in the phew each week.
I don't always agree with my pastor, but if there becomes great disagreement, I leave. I left my church of ten years after their childish and unfortunate reaction to finding out their former youth pastor was gay.
blur880 3 years ago
This guy is such a dick. He is definitely not qualified to give an objective analysis of the culture of any group of people.
amdinga 3 years ago 2
Too bad people are following these gutless scum like Joel Osteen and Creflo Dollar. We need more REAL precahers of RIGHTEOUSNESS like Parsley. This country has sold out to everything but GOD and we are being judged for it!!
TEXASSURFDONKEY 3 years ago
Righteousness=hate and elitism? Exclusivity with God?
"Perverted mother-fuckers who are trying to justify fagdom"??? No wonder you like Parsley. You guys are bed buddies in your little all-night hate fest. You hate people who aren't like you, and then you have the audacity to call Bush a Nazi on your page? You are the Adolf, man.
Glad I'm not a part of any church you go to.
blur880 3 years ago
No problem we have met our quota on punk-ass fuck-Heads for the year. Maybe Hagees looking for new members.
TEXASSURFDONKEY 3 years ago
By punk-ass fuck-heads do you meet people who don't hate others just because they believe different things?
I'm sure you enjoy the sermons of Mr. Hagee too.
I thought America was the home of religious and personal freedom? I thought it was supposed to be a place where people weren't persecuted simply for what they believed? Some fucking patriot you are—unless by patriot you mean Neo-Nazi. Is that what you mean? I'm glad we have a constitution to protect people from people like you.
blur880 3 years ago
Parsley sells God for money like TV stations sell reality television. He is a fake. I sure he will get caught in a scandal very shortly--just like all of the other outlandish evangelical, radical preachers.
America is one of the most conservative countries in the world. If we are so bad, God must really hate the rest of the world.
blur880 3 years ago
Where were you in the begining years when he worked for no salary? Where were you when he was making $30 dollars a week. He began his ministry from scratch, with nothing because he wanted to help people and now he has helped thousands around the world. He's been in ministry for 30 years, so if you're waiting on a scandal you might want to pack a lunch.
gdsswd 3 years ago
Most people work for nothing or peanuts in the beginning. It is nothing unusually noble--unless you think I am super noble, too.
Parsleys and his church won't even release his annual income. He most likely makes millions. He lives in a gated mansion with guards for crying out loud.
He is a fraud, a false prophet who sells whatever people are buying.
blur880 3 years ago
The church isnt required 2 release hs salary but ud better believe the IRS knows & so does the independent board who decides his salary... Oh you probably didnt know that he has an independent board composed of people he has no contact with who decide his salary. If you knew that you wouldnt make such wild accusations. Who am i kidding, reality doesnt matter to you. Tell u what just go ahead and forget the facts, they only complicate minds like urs.
gdsswd 3 years ago
Oh course they aren't required. Well, I honestly don't care who decides his salary. He sells God and makes millions doing it. It's no wild accusation that he lives in a gated mansion with security guards. That's reality.
You say I forget the facts, but you point to know specifics. Parsley is a fraud. He's a false prophet who commercializes God for cash. He is a marketeer.
I doubt God smiles at any preacher that lives in a mansion and surrounds himself with wealth and worldly goods.
blur880 3 years ago
Sorry but a 4,500 sq ft house is NOT a mansion and it's nothing to be ashamed of especially if he didnt pay for it. It was a blessing to his family. Yes there are tmes when the local Police have to come out to his place and the ministry because of the constant death threats. If he wants to simply make money there's no reason to be stir up the controversy. You cant have both. Either he cares about what hes doing or hes a fraud and sticks to the simple stuff. Well he doesnt make things very easy.
gdsswd 3 years ago
4500 is pretty damn big for a man of God. I believe my pastor's house is probably about 1600 square feet. His house is huge, maybe not the biggest. However, it still puts him in the top 1% of Americans who own houses!
Stirring up controversy is the BEST way to make money. The more divisive the better. Have you taken business classes?
Yelling and screaming makes him famous. He is a TV whore for Heaven sakes. He sells God for money and fame. He is a fraud.
blur880 3 years ago
Do you see Jesus living in a 4500 square foot house??
Most 4500 sq ft houses I know sell for well over a million dollars, even where real estate is cheap. Many celebrities have 4500 sq ft houses. Sure, some have 10,000 sq feet, but 4500 is still quite large.
I'm a lawyer, my wife is going to med school. I doubt we will ever own a 4500 sq ft home.
blur880 3 years ago
If you are a Christian I don't see how you CAN'T question Parsleys life style. You act like 4500 sq ft is small. He lives on a 21 acre compound with an electric gate. They have stables, etc. They have two children but have five bedrooms. His parents also live next door in a million dollar home. Parsley also owns a seven-passenger jet.
This man speaks for money and worldly goods. He is a disgrace to all the missionaries I know who live on peanuts--real Christians.
blur880 3 years ago
I didnt realize that making money was a bad thing. I dont remember hearing folks like you complain about Stephen King or Larry Flynt.
Here's the facts; you're making assumptions about people you dont know and that's wrong. Period.
gdsswd 3 years ago
Who are folks like me?? Why would I complain about them? They aren't men of God. They don't pretend to me something they are not.
My wife and I will make lots of money, but I think big houses are cars are sick.
Christians who live like rock stars makes me sick.
What is an assumption?? I listed tons of facts about him: his mansion, his jet, etc.
blur880 3 years ago
You wouldnt like heaven very much with all those mansions and streets of gold and stuff. Every person who obeyed the commands of God was blessed (hebrew means envied by all nations).
gdsswd 3 years ago
"If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him?"
""it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven""
""blessed are the poor""
A million dollar, five-bedroom home when you only have two children. A jet. Idol worship.
How much good could Parsley do if he lived in only a $250,000 house? How many lives could he save?
blur880 3 years ago
Okay as to the first verse you dont know the man and I can personally tell you he lives like that. You dont know of the cars, houses and planes he's given away.
the camel vs is talking about humility and those who build their own wealth have difficulty being humble at times. not even applicable.
the actual verse are "blessed are poor in spirit"
Again your assuming heaven is on a budget and your assuming he paid that much for his house.
Stp depending on spoon fed vs u no nothing about.
gdsswd 3 years ago
Hasn't Parsley built his own wealth? Doesn't he capitalize off of God?
Actually, the actual versus is in Hebrew.
I'm not assuming heaven is on a budget.
I know he took out a $200,000 dollar mortgage on the house he paid over $800,000 for years ago, which is worth over $1 million now.
I know he owns a 7-passenger jet and horses.
blur880 3 years ago
Actually "he" doesnt own a Jet. The ministry owns it and he doesnt have any horses. YOu should really stay off the websites. You seem to believe them like they're gospel.
Yes Pastor Parsley has built his own wealth without using ministry funds. I still dont see how you can have a proplem with that unless you have some sore to marxist few that entitles you to say who should have what.
gdsswd 3 years ago
All the sources I have read (over 10, including at least one evangelical church site) indicated that it is his jet. But it is probably not in his name. His house isn't even in his name--his wife holds it in trust. He does fancy lawyer to hide his money and avoid tax liability.
blur880 3 years ago
Well if you read it, it must be true!
gdsswd 3 years ago
Please, give me some proof that I am wrong, not just straw man crap.
blur880 3 years ago
Because God has no problem with wealth and neither do I. You and your wife seem to be working pretty hard for the mighty dollar, should I question your integrity as well?
gdsswd 3 years ago
I am sorry. I forgot how the Bible talks about "Live in a large home." And, isn't it Matthew 12:23 that says "Those that own private jets get to Heaven faster??"
Like I said, my wife and I will be making $400,000 plus per year when she is done with school. I don't think making money is necessarily bad. But, I'll still have a small house, drive a Camry, etc.
Think of all the good Parsley could do with $900,000, instead of having 3 extra bedrooms and a jet.
blur880 3 years ago
You probably also forgot Deut. 8:18; Pro. 10:22; Luke 6:38; 2 Cor. 8; Phil 4:18; 3 Jn 2 etc. You have 2 false assumptions. #1 Heaen is NOT on a budget and #2 your assuming he used "good tithe dollars" to buy his home.
gdsswd 3 years ago
He is a preacher who speaks negatively against a lot of different groups. He is self-righteous. I have every right to call bullshit. So, I'm calling bullshit.
His church is a corporation run by his family who get rich. He sells God. Wealth isn't necessarily evil. Once again, I'll say, in 5 years my household income will be $400,000. But, I'm buying no 4,500 sq ft house, and I'm no preacher.
Are you a member of his crazy church? Is that why you defend him?
blur880 3 years ago
I think preachers should have the nicest houses in America, drive the nicest cars and have their family very well provided for. Especially those how put their lives on the line to speak truth. Especially those who do the work that folks like you are afraid or unwilling to do that saves millions of lives. What about that by the way. How do you reconcile your venom for this Pastor with the hudreds of thousands that have literally been saved by his ministry.
gdsswd 3 years ago
"I think preachers should have the nicest houses in America, drive the nicest cars and have their family very well provided for."
Well, I think that is nuts. SUre they should have a nice house--but a 5-bedroom million dollar home is celebrity style, idol worship.
How does Parsley put his life on the line? I know many people that do much better and harder things than he does. It must be hard living in a mansion and flying in a jet and talking on TY--my friends in China risk their lives.
blur880 3 years ago
This is not even an argument you should be involved in. You dont know what he's done or what he does on a daily basis. All you know is what you've heard.
gdsswd 3 years ago
So I need to know everyone personally? You can't say anything about Obama or HIlliary or Bush since you don't know them? As a historian I can't speak about Washington? As a pastor Parsley can't speak about biblical characters, God?
blur880 3 years ago
Wrong. We can look at what these people do, just as you could look to see what pastor parsley does. My point is that "you" dont know what they do neither do you care to know bc it's more fun to throw stones.
gdsswd 3 years ago
No. YOU ARE WRONG. I'm not a liberal. I'm not an atheist. I'm not anti-Christian. I don't go around yelling about how stupid Christianity is. But, given my love for my religion, I speak out against false prophets. And, I speak out against Christian cult mentality. I speak out against bigotry and hate and needless divisiveness.
As a man of the law, I support equality. I support separation of church and state.
As a historian, I support intellectual understand and the factual truth.
blur880 3 years ago
I visited the auditor's website. This is hard evidence. The Parsley's have three plots of land, all bought with Corporate God money. The two houses on the land alone are valued at almost $2 million. The three plots total over $2 million with land--and that is not even MARKET VALUE. Add another $500,000 for market value. Swimming pools, huge ponds with gazebo islands, huge driveways, five bed, five bath. FIVE BATHROOMS FOR 4 PEOPLE!!! He worships porcelain :).
blur880 3 years ago
Trust me, if he does want to use the plane, he has to pay the ministry to use it, if it not a ministry sanctioned trip.
gdsswd 3 years ago
Where are you pulling this information from. Lead me to the source...or did you just read it?
blur880 3 years ago
Because i have worked closely with the financing of the particular ministry for 20 years and in that time if i would have seen one thing even remotely resembling what you so ignorantly suggest, I would be out of there quicker than you can say boo. I know the inner workings of their lives and their ministry and know FIRST hand (unlike some) exactly what goes on and why.
gdsswd 3 years ago
So, I don't care who you have worked with unless it was Parsley and his church.
Been a Christian for 20 years, best friend's in seminary. Best friend's father a pastor. My father is a leading protestant history. I have 3-4 great friends who are missionaries. Went to a church that heavily funded missionaries. And, I got my latter education at a Jesuit university--but I'm sure you hate Jesuits.
But, again, you continually tell me how much you know and how little I know. Elitism?
blur880 3 years ago
Again that's a stretch. Im simply telling you that youd dont know the Parsley's or their minsistry has i have since i have in fact worked with them for 20 years.
The fact is that your so religous you have made the power of God of such little effect that the Holy Spirit cant even talk to you and tell you when you're wrong. Since you wont allow HIM to talk to you I suppose Im waising my breath. You desprately need to have a personal relationship with the Holy Spirit...
gdsswd 3 years ago
This is just more Christian elitism. You are spouting just what I talked about earlier. I'm this. I'm that. You act like you know about my relationship with God. It sickens me.
See, I don't judge people like Christian elitists. I challenge facts. I'll let them they are nuts, but I never tell them they don't know God. I don't tell them they are going to hell. I don't pretend to know their relationship with any of the trinity.
If you don't agree with me, I'm just a lost soul.
blur880 3 years ago
I am not a member but only bc i live several states away but i have studied Hebrew and Greek for many years and am a student of the Bible and know that his ministry is in line with the biblical record.
I understand that you dissagree but all the years of wrong info you've learned about the Bible doenst make this pastor wrong. you cant just take out vs for your own use you have to read every verse in light of the rest of the 66 books of cannon. And in light of those books this man is rignt on
gdsswd 3 years ago
Well, if you "know that his ministry is in line with "biblical record" you are no student of the Bible.
Are you also a student of histories and ancient cultures?
Wrong info I have learned? Again, cries conservative Christian thought saying, "If you don't agree with me you are wrong."
I don't cherry pick the Bible. If anything, that is what Parsley does and Baptists tend to do.
What you can't do is read the Bible without historical and cultural context.
Don't be an elitist.
blur880 3 years ago
Yeah if i think im right, that means i think your wrong. And that makes me an elitist? You're the one on the attack and we're the ones on the defense. Maybe you should take those powers of perception to a mirror.
gdsswd 3 years ago
I live in Omaha, NE 1/2 from Warren Buffet, the second richest man in the world. Parsley's home is bigger than Buffet's.
Sad? Yes.
Parsley is just another Westboro Baptist Church—just with lots more money.
blur880 3 years ago
The income used for his home, cars etc. dosent come from offerings given to the church. He has a resonable salary from the ministry that is decided by an independent board. His "wealth" comes from the 5 best selling books he has written and I dont see how that's a problem.
gdsswd 3 years ago
Pastor Parsley doesnt judge or hate anyone. I have personally seen him love and care for those of differing faiths and lifestyles including those from the homosexual community. Neither does he promote hate. But he does stand for what he believes while respecting those who hold those beliefs. There is nothing wrong with believing that a lifestyle is wrong as long as you dont let that affect your veiw of the individual. Why cant we show the same tolorence for him that we expect from him?
gdsswd 3 years ago
fruity Bastard!
mcnoodles76 3 years ago
The words 'utter douchebag' come to mind.....
SabuPtolemy 3 years ago
He refuses to be a loud voice for politics and embraces one of extreme theism.
deeppickle 3 years ago
Yes, we are fighting two wars right now. The first is against people like this asshole.
fpyork 3 years ago 2
HMMM if you listen to anyone but god him self your an idiot regardless if your muslim christain or jewish.
sanadaffara 3 years ago
Funny how only gays and far-left liberal scum find Parsley offensive and yet these same fuckers rejoiced with enlightenment when they heard Obama's pastor Wright say: God damn America!
1ProLife 3 years ago
I'm a moderate Christian and find Parsley to be quite evil. He spouts nothing but hate-speech.
blur880 3 years ago
Rod Parsley is a moron and needs redemption.
MauricePedro 3 years ago 7
MauricePedro, you are a non-thinking adult. His statement that you start with a system of beliefs is correct. You have a world view, I just can't tell from what you say what it is except that it is not the Christian world view. Your statements seem to be a Satanic world view - do whatever is right in your own eyes. What pop star is your world view taken from?
screwThePCPolice 3 years ago
I'm not a Satanist and my world view is not Satanic. However I don't believe in this guy's world view. He is stuck in a narrow christian world. It was people like him that burned witches and killed natives and Indians all around the world. I think he is a moron.
MauricePedro 3 years ago
having a narrow mind is the only thing that will get you to heaven. the bible says narrow is the road to heaven. look it up mauricepedro.
rockdrummer1 3 years ago
ScrewThePCPolice: Hello, I'm a live-long Christian and Parsley is the greatest of idiots. He is a false prophet who preaches hate, and acts in ways that Jesus never would have. If Jesus came today he would lead a team of homosexuals to tear down Parsely's falsehoods, and they would go to the club afterwards. Why do Christians spend so much energy judging others when they can't even deal with their own problems? God is love, not hate and judgment.
blur880 3 years ago
blur880 "If Jesus came today he would lead a team of homosexuals to tear down Parsely's falsehoods, and they would go to the club afterwards."
Interesting opinion asshole ..what church do you attend and what do they put in the water?
TEXASSURFDONKEY 3 years ago
I don't see what is so bad about that statement. I guess I am just not a elitest Christian who goes around supporting hate speech. Parsley is a nut who is good for no one.
I must have forgotten the part of the Bible where it talks about how Jesus only hung out with Bible-toting Christians who lived only as he believed they should. I guess I forgot how Jesus entered on a public platform of hate speech against all religions that were not Christian and how evil they all are. Man.
blur880 3 years ago
the funny thing is on fox if there is a muslim women telling them that she loves her religion they will presser her..... but a christen extremist.."ah we will let him go this time"
TechieTokyo 3 years ago
Men like parsley give christianity & America a bad name!
elvis4us 3 years ago
This man is crazy and to think people follow his teachings on Christianity , its scary
jerryjam22 3 years ago
Funny how only gays and far-left liberal scum find Parsley offensive and yet these same fuckers rejoiced with enlightenment when they heard Obama's pastor Wright say: God damn America!
1ProLife 3 years ago
"Scum" , "Fuckers" Nice Language. Losers like you are the reason I'm an Athiest.
I guess "your brand" of christianity doesn't teach tolerance or loving your fellow man.
AdobePhsyko 3 years ago 3
Adobe, As an athiest, you do worship someone. Why not state who it is?? I will venture who it is and it is .... Satan. Well, Jesus said "you vipers..." Is that tolerant or is that calling a wolf a wolf instead of a wolf a sheep?
screwThePCPolice 3 years ago
If you're an atheists that's your fault. I decided to read the bible for myself, and refuse to let humans dictate what I believe and what I don't. So how's the atheist life working for ya=]But then again if that is what you believe to each his own.
shellezzle1 3 years ago
I just hope you and your NutJob Ministers will enjoy the Holy War you're starting.
Religion will destroy the world as we know it.
By the way , I've studied your Jesus and let me see you deny this statement.
"Jesus Was A Liberal"
AdobePhsyko 3 years ago
Jesus was smart, so there is no way that's possible. WAR? Look smart ass read about the Barbary Wars... We've been fighting with these morons since 1801. They declared war on us in 1979 my friend. We have been dealing with this sh*t for 30 years.
Islam the religion of peace (and a big stack of dead bodies)LMAO
shellezzle1 3 years ago
You're a fuckin Whack Job Lady.
I hope that you meet your Jesus some day .
He is Gonna Fuck You Up
AdobePhsyko 3 years ago
Haha! Then if you studied Jesus you would know that statement is false. I just took some bible college courses andsummarized the entire bible... What do I know. LOL.
shellezzle1 3 years ago
Yes, and you have a very blessed day=]
The Lord is good indeed.
shellezzle1 3 years ago
I always like how you say "have a very blessed day" like a jackass.
blur880 3 years ago
Jesus was a progressive. Liberals are generally called the progressives.
Haven't the Christians killed just as many, if not more people, as Islam?
blur880 3 years ago
"Jesus was a progressive"
Jesus believed in succor for the poor. Progressivism -- the superstitious belief that things will necessarily and continuously improve -- is an intramundane eschatology and therefore a deformation of the apocalyptic aspect of Christianity.
neothomist1275 3 years ago
Well, you need to brush up on your terminology. Progressivism, of course, is not a belief that "things will necessarily and continuously improve." It also isn't an "intramundane eschatology," but thumbs up for big words.
"therefore a deformation of the apocalyptic aspect of Christianity."
First, this is just circular reasoning. Second, regardless of its circular nature, it doesn't make any sense. But I wouldn't expect it to make sense, since you don't know what Progressivism is.
blur880 3 years ago
"Progressivism, of course, is not a belief that 'things will necessarily and continuously improve.'"
Then you are obliged to define Progressivism. Please use Condorcet, Saint-Simon, Comte, Hegel and Spencer as references -- no UNESCO blather about equality, human rights et al.
Pagan thinkers didn't believe in Progress. One must believe in the heaven in the afterlife before one can believe in a heaven on earth.
"My kingdom is not of this world." John 18:36
neothomist1275 3 years ago 2
First, I'm not obliged to do anything. You are the one who attempted to correct me without knowing what you were talking about. Second, I can and will define anything via any source I chose. I won't use Hegel; I won't use UNESCO—don't know why I would. Just open your Webster's Unabridged. There you go.
"Pagan thinkers didn't believe in Progress. One must believe in the heaven in the afterlife before one can believe in a heaven on earth."
I don't know what this blather is about.
blur880 3 years ago
"I won't use Hegel...don't know why I would"
Perhaps because he was one of the chief prophets of Progress.
"I don't know what this blather is about"
Its about the gnostic religion you unwittingly adhere to.
neothomist1275 3 years ago
"Perhaps because he was one of the chief prophets of Progress."
Perhaps it is because Hegel has nothing to do with what I was talking about. Have you opened Webster's Unabridged yet??? You like big words; figured you owned 5 copies.
"Its about the gnostic religion you unwittingly adhere to."
Whatever, man. I don't need to defend my Christianity too you. There is no point doing so with your type. You don't understand Progressivism, and you are already throwing judgments around.
blur880 3 years ago
@neothomist1275 : uh what ar eu talking about??? i know hegel... thats all i know
what does progressivism have to do with hegelian dialectic?
the7ronin 1 year ago
Thank you... I noticed how the Jeremiah thing passed into obscurity. Most liberals don't read, they take small left views from here and there with no research and come to a conclusions. 90% of the people that I know that support Obama are borderline illiterate. I would just leave it alone, it is obvious that you guys are unevenly yoked in knowledge=]
shellezzle1 3 years ago
MEGAN, youve lived ALL over the world & you know so MUCH about ppl & religion?
hmm well ive lived in MANY places "all over the world" too & what IVE found in over 5 decades of life is that "other ppl" DO read the bible "all over the world"
Christians in China, Japan, India, Israel,etc. often have a STRONGER faith as opposed to "American christians" due to political/ cultural differences.
Before your next "hate rant" test your wordskills. "Biblical worldview" is not what you think it is.
humanedomain 3 years ago
comments below mine are full of pure stupidity. exactly what is wrong with liberal America today
lovergurl81 3 years ago 2
Take your "Biblical worldview" and shove it up your ass, you fucking moron.
tjs11487 3 years ago
I will pray right now that the God of the Bible convict you of your sinful ways. You are in need of a Saviour. What anger you have. One of Satan's demons live in you right now and may it be cast out of you before the end of your life.
screwThePCPolice 3 years ago
this guy is an idiot
jblk007 3 years ago
So he basically said that people who don't think like him are just wrong, no matter if they have logic.
Mutakaliim 3 years ago
THERE IS NO BIBLICAL WORLD VIEW YOU WORTHLESS BAG OF FECES. Goddamn, why don't these sorry sacks of sanctimonious snake shit take their myopic world views and stick 'em up their collective asses? By the way, I've lived all over the world and most people have never read the bibles; however, the word for asshole in China and India is "parsley."
luvmegan 3 years ago
Rod Parsely is CORRECT and liberals and other leftists should stop with their presuppositions which lead to wrong conclusions and instead stand aside, look the facts and arrive at the truth. If you're right, you will agree with the Parsleys, Hagees, Bushs, Romneys, Reagans, Robertsons, etc of the same stripes.
MoralityRules 3 years ago 2
Rod Parsley is an arrogant, full-of-himself, egomaniacal, manipulative, loud mouthed con man. Why anyone would take this Shyster seriously shows how sick, frightenend, low self-esteemed and ignorant most Americans truly are!
stlgtrace 3 years ago
this guy reminds me of hitler the fear mongerer, its the sheeple of america that should wake up and stop falling for this crap! fair and balanced my ass! This guy attracts the same lame brainwashed walking dead in America, i'm embarassed that we have this type of slime in America.
FELINEFOOL 3 years ago 5
This comment has received too many negative votes show
He is absolutely right/ wake up america
teebox2727 3 years ago
Fox commentator: "Right, right, right, right"
Fair and Balanced, yeah?
OmarAlQaseer 3 years ago 3
What a load of bullshit. This is why the media won't target him and focus on Obama's pastor.
OmarAlQaseer 3 years ago 5
I like how HE alone comes up with the CONSENSUS.
psmolik1 3 years ago
Yeah Ron you're the type of cunt thats fueling you're second war at home.
vodkadog 3 years ago
this fool tries SOOOO hard to sound brilliant , and idiots who want desperately to follow something hear his old fashioned attempts at appearing well and clear spoken , and his using words larger than what they themselves use or know the meaning of as an indication that he 'MUST' know what he speaks about , and therefore has the 'message' for them...he blabs on , yet says NOTHING
darrin924 3 years ago 3
Anyone interested in reading the story, check out articlees posted in the Magazine The American Prospect.
gonzoplatter 4 years ago
Rod Parsley is a zionist agent working for the Rothschilds in order to infiltrate zionism into christianity. In one o his sermons, he exposes the Federal Reserve which is owned by the Rothschilds. Why would he 'expose' the people he's working for? TO GAIN THE TRUST OS CHRISTIANS & LEAD THEM INTO THE WRONG DIRECTION. Rosie O'donnell will never have another job in hollywood again because she pesued Truth instead of prosperity, something Parsley preaches but doesn't practice.
iamyourholiness 4 years ago
i think this guy above me needs to do his home work before he talks alot of crap that he made up,i was a member of pastor parsley's church and while i was there i found that rod parsley is one of the most solid christian's i have ever met.he is also a very VERY smart man and he knows his stuff so before you touch his anointing you had better check yourself god bless!!!
cmyster73 4 years ago
your an idiot
PastorMalena 3 years ago