OK maybe 5 years ago Marui was the best, but the price you pay getting a Marui full metal/firing 420-450 fps reliably is close to the same price you would pay for a PTW - which is already good to go. So if budget is no problem, based off of this evidence you still have interchangeable cylinders as well as an ECU going for the PTW. I'm not even a fan of the PTW's but comparing these 2 brands is like comparing a Ferrari to an insanely suped-up Civic.
Really you need to do another test if only one shot missed, the aim just sucked, looking at the grouping there's not way it just missed....what a fake!
Marui can never evn compare against a Systema. if there were two airsofters of the same skill that were in a war, one has a Systema and the other has a Marui i would bet my money on the systema dude.
systema is the best airsoft company because they are like farrari and put the best materials in there products and shit like that, marui is like mercedies because it's so inavative and PTW's would not be here without them, granted that tokyo marui also put in good parts, personally i buy tokyo marui because what they have the best sellection of all the airsoft brands.
I think if or when PTWs invent their own recoil shock range they may take the win in this arms race. TM cheaper and more upgradable, but PTWs are better out of the box.
every one has their own 2 cents to put in but once u have a ptw u would never go back to a regular aeg. and if u dont mind me asking wat are the problems that ptws have cause only prob i had with mine was the metal the bodies are made of isnt the best (i have a milled billet lower and a milled RS upper)((problem solved))
I would never buy a systema....they for 1 have quite a few problems. 2 when they have these problems (like the ECU in em) it can cost anywhere from 50-300 bucks just for 1 fix. i would rather spend 400 on an aeg.. upgrade it for another 300 and do normal maintenence than have a systema...just my 2 cents though
they use the Systema as its the most realistic, and the military version is the most reliable you can get. and Systema's cost over $1000, a marui only costs up to about $500. th one in the vid was about $250. the marui's also alot more durable than the civilian systema, and every other AEG out there (there are stock maruis floating around from the early nineties).
actually....they are cap firing model guns. look up companies like MGC (model gun company) for more information on these fun shell ejecting model guns.
the difference between those and blank firing guns? These are relatively low powered and not loud enough to make your ears bleed when fired indoors or without hearing protection.
im pretty sure SYSTEMA IS from japan. if you bought any kinda part the text IS in Japanese. systema PTW's concept made had come from America though. But the actual SYSTEMA company is from Japan,
the TM guns are really reliable, and good internals, but the PTW have great body mech, the best internals, and easy to disassemble. for my choice, i would get the TM because thay are cheaper then the PTW and also, you can upgrade any brand of internals and body. (that is for my opinion...)
The point of a PTW though is that you don`t have to touch ANYTHING, except maybe a tightbore barrel. A TM fully upgraded might not cost as much but it won`t compare.
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yea it looks like the 1st shot on the PTW coulda been user error judging from the groupings. but since it isn't a bench test all this doesn't mean squat
@LordAvgasror the systema is waay better, its used as a professional training weapon. marui is shitty, its low fps to somwere around 370fps with .20, the PTW is around 600fps with .25 and 390 with .43
based on my experience, i would more likely to choose systema ptw over tokio marui. systema has a lot heavier rigidity, and it is more like a real gun so it is easier to use for me. most tokio marui guns are plastic and bbs fly agnoizingly slow. however, i would have to say tokyo marui hop up is great. and i would love it if systema ptw rifles were a bit cheaper..
This is a thing called a [model gun]. They are ejection of a cartridge, and a thing which enjoys action without shooting a bullet It is Japanese original culture
This is a thing called a [model gun]. They are ejection of a cartridge, and a thing which enjoys action without shooting a bullet It is Japanese original culture
This is a thing called a [model gun]. They are ejection of a cartridge, and a thing which enjoys action without shooting a bullet. In culture unique to Japan, it is used also for photography of a movie.
PTW looks like it has tighter grouping and was placed more in the center of the target, anyone else notice that? I just bought a PTW waiting for it to come in the mail. Cant wait. :)
but then again the PTW is 300 bucks more ( yes i did say MORE ) then a real m16 rifle so of course it's better in every way.
marui's are only extarnally bad ( plastic, plastic, oh hey more plastic ) but the internals are good. but then again they are bad value for money since the price tags are not something that would make you smile.
this is sort of a stupid comparison. that would be like comparing a lpeg to my vfc ak. of course the systema is better, however magazines are 50 bucks each and only come in aeg standard cap. so if you can afford that go you lol.
Right, but I was surprised how well the TM did, those wernt too bad groupings if it were completely stocked. That was a good distance and the bbs did lodge themselves into the cardboard.
well i wasnt too suprised, tm makes one of the most consistant running aegs on the market with excellent hopup and very good stock barrels for the price. systema barrels are not so good. it makes perfect sense to me. though the tm m4a1s biggest flaw is the plastic body, the barrel wobble and the crappy hopup unit. then again all airsoft m4s are plagued with some major design flaw.
i think the vfc scar vs the ptw would have been a more fair test.
Not a very good test. Should do a 5" to 10" diagram.....and then check the accuracy and the groupings for first....i would like to see the comparison...
OK maybe 5 years ago Marui was the best, but the price you pay getting a Marui full metal/firing 420-450 fps reliably is close to the same price you would pay for a PTW - which is already good to go. So if budget is no problem, based off of this evidence you still have interchangeable cylinders as well as an ECU going for the PTW. I'm not even a fan of the PTW's but comparing these 2 brands is like comparing a Ferrari to an insanely suped-up Civic.
SuperBoomstick 2 months ago
the guns are also 1000 dollar price spread if u want realism replicas props etc just go with a gbb if u just want to play airsoft get a kwa or somtin
TheDarkSideOfJesus 3 months ago
lol its not the ptw's fault, u missed the 1st shot.
and judging by the result, the PTW was more accurate.
TheGrahamAker 3 months ago
NICE SHOOTING!
sdemp321 5 months ago
PTW vs a sporting toy, wow, do not do apple vs orange stuff.
deltafreelancer 6 months ago
I love the sound of the ptw
christower50 8 months ago
Wow strange for the first 3 shots of the marui, after each bb hit the cardboard, someguy outside my house sneezed after each hit
Peter421 10 months ago
i find ptw better
DornAlien123 11 months ago
that first shot with the PTW missed because of shooter error the PTW is MUCH better than the marui
Coolmans24 1 year ago
you should work your English.
colingtr1 1 year ago
If you compare the Celcius CTW and PTW, the CTW price is more reasonable, it build of much better material as well. The accuracy is impressive!
garrychn 1 year ago
集弾性が同じくらいなら、やっぱりセミのキレが良いトレポンでしょうかね。
でもかかるお金が半端無いですね笑
askwalz 1 year ago
Those Japanese are still claming that the MA is better than the PTW.WTF stfu jps. U fail look at ur lame video editing
pucciay 1 year ago
PTW VS MA.......
PTW is absolutely better...
seals9121 1 year ago
the Systema M4 may have missed one shot, but all shots were in mid torso. the TM M4's shots were all in the lower torso and were farther apart.
RainingBlood231 1 year ago
lol 3:51 fail fake recoil with blank guns
Thermoman95 1 year ago
Flashing "LAST SHOT HIT!" Reminds me of cheesy infomercial.
csmybuttt 1 year ago
PTW will always beat an AEG...
bonde92 1 year ago
you guys shoot like fags !!!!!! look at your positions while shooting !!
snuffying 1 year ago
Really you need to do another test if only one shot missed, the aim just sucked, looking at the grouping there's not way it just missed....what a fake!
PatriotsAirsoftTeam 1 year ago
when hes shooting there just still shots not video its a sham to make tokyo mauri better
sgtxdaddy 1 year ago
Marui can never evn compare against a Systema. if there were two airsofters of the same skill that were in a war, one has a Systema and the other has a Marui i would bet my money on the systema dude.
ELITEWAFFLES9 1 year ago
they just want marui to win cuz there asian am i the only one who gets this!
ReidCipable 1 year ago
well systema is japanese.
ELITEWAFFLES9 1 year ago
@ELITEWAFFLES9 I stand corrected
ReidCipable 1 year ago
@ELITEWAFFLES9 and marui -.-
Des3rtEagle 1 year ago
@Des3rtEagle yup and a few others
ELITEWAFFLES9 1 year ago
yea too bad i cant affort a systema D:
CQBWarfighter 1 year ago
systema is the best airsoft company because they are like farrari and put the best materials in there products and shit like that, marui is like mercedies because it's so inavative and PTW's would not be here without them, granted that tokyo marui also put in good parts, personally i buy tokyo marui because what they have the best sellection of all the airsoft brands.
bad spelling
cccplt 1 year ago
I think if or when PTWs invent their own recoil shock range they may take the win in this arms race. TM cheaper and more upgradable, but PTWs are better out of the box.
FlashDAH 1 year ago
every one has their own 2 cents to put in but once u have a ptw u would never go back to a regular aeg. and if u dont mind me asking wat are the problems that ptws have cause only prob i had with mine was the metal the bodies are made of isnt the best (i have a milled billet lower and a milled RS upper)((problem solved))
USxREAPERxMC 1 year ago
I would never buy a systema....they for 1 have quite a few problems. 2 when they have these problems (like the ECU in em) it can cost anywhere from 50-300 bucks just for 1 fix. i would rather spend 400 on an aeg.. upgrade it for another 300 and do normal maintenence than have a systema...just my 2 cents though
usmcsniper92 1 year ago
police train with ptw, if marui was better they would use them, ptw is the best gun u can get
smokindodi420 1 year ago
@smokindodi420 Ive heard that they have quite a few problems actually and would personaly take a marui sopmod over the systema.
FUKUHARASKATER101 1 year ago
they use the Systema as its the most realistic, and the military version is the most reliable you can get. and Systema's cost over $1000, a marui only costs up to about $500. th one in the vid was about $250. the marui's also alot more durable than the civilian systema, and every other AEG out there (there are stock maruis floating around from the early nineties).
c2thedub14 1 year ago
@smokindodi420 I think a fully upgraded Gas Blow Back rifle WA...is better.
NallePu83 1 year ago
集弾性はほぼおなじかもしれませんが、寿命はマルイのほうがいいかもしれませんね。
Teionndesu 2 years ago
they're both amazing guns
fitycint 2 years ago
@fitycint but the price...is not the same
NallePu83 2 years ago
This doesn't mean MARUI is better !!! In order to test the gun ,they got to do short and long range .
dasabeke 2 years ago
fail
kyleklaww 2 years ago
the guns at the end arnt real thy are blank fireing guns
airsoftcaverly 2 years ago
actually....they are cap firing model guns. look up companies like MGC (model gun company) for more information on these fun shell ejecting model guns.
the difference between those and blank firing guns? These are relatively low powered and not loud enough to make your ears bleed when fired indoors or without hearing protection.
littlemog92 2 years ago
im pretty sure SYSTEMA IS from japan. if you bought any kinda part the text IS in Japanese. systema PTW's concept made had come from America though. But the actual SYSTEMA company is from Japan,
metalchocobo410 2 years ago 2
what are you using at the end, looks real
kdkinen 2 years ago
The M4 at the end is a marushin, which costs about as much as a PTW.
Vinagain94 2 years ago
it is dont you see the cartridges flying out
xXxbwelitexXx 2 years ago
the TM guns are really reliable, and good internals, but the PTW have great body mech, the best internals, and easy to disassemble. for my choice, i would get the TM because thay are cheaper then the PTW and also, you can upgrade any brand of internals and body. (that is for my opinion...)
jonnyboiboi 2 years ago
The point of a PTW though is that you don`t have to touch ANYTHING, except maybe a tightbore barrel. A TM fully upgraded might not cost as much but it won`t compare.
gandhicakes 2 years ago
PTW凄いですね
Nanabebi 2 years ago
Nice movie GFBmarines !!
justheretosee 2 years ago
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i hate asians oh excuse me.. chnks
maulerz5bigal172 2 years ago
wow u cant even spell that correctly
retard
fkk u
consistent racist virgin
PSP5559 2 years ago
you cant even spell you or fuck thats pretty sad
Denis543 2 years ago
the systema max can go up to 550 fps and the marui has about 350 fps
airsoftguy23 2 years ago
japan has laws that limit the TM guns to only 300 fps now.
PSP5559 2 years ago
Systema is japanese too...???
NallePu83 2 years ago
Good question...
Epson5000 2 years ago
no, systema is american
BF2mods 2 years ago
How do you know? How many systema guns do you have?
NallePu83 2 years ago
Duh dude. systema IS american. look it up. its Made in USA
BF2mods 2 years ago
duh dude. systema IS american. its Made in USA. look it up.
theres a promotional video of systema on youtube, search for it.....
BF2mods 2 years ago
Funny, I got two Systema PTWS rifles. Both are made in Japan.
NallePu83 2 years ago
Holy shit , my bad, systema engineering is a japanese company, USA just distributes products.
BF2mods 2 years ago
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AllAmericanKid1 2 years ago
the ptw had better range
milsimjunkie 2 years ago
The ptw sound way more sold.
ledzep520 2 years ago
the only way to test which is better is to dunk em both in water and see which one fires. hint- ptw will be a paper weight after that.
SgtGrave 2 years ago
the first shot of PTW was a complete spoiler i believe
kimmin1208 2 years ago
the way hes hunched over reminds me of snake from MGS4
slayerking1234 3 years ago
yea it looks like the 1st shot on the PTW coulda been user error judging from the groupings. but since it isn't a bench test all this doesn't mean squat
KingSalami19D 3 years ago
u cna see him move the gun to point the right direction after the first shot
171k2894 3 years ago
exactly my point. i appreciate the reinforcement
KingSalami19D 3 years ago
Or you can admit that the Systema PTW has one of the worst hop-up units ever designed on an AEG ;)
UBCSWraith 2 years ago
Great video. What is the length of the KAC rail on the ptw
LittlePhilly1 3 years ago
why is he shooting all hunched over?
CMARPAT 3 years ago
Better stance to shoot from. GOogle it.
engl4nd24 3 years ago 2
were those real guns in the training part?
xxmasterchiefofahlo 3 years ago
I doubt it, probably modded to only fire blanks.
xIRAxFiveSeven 3 years ago
Yea looks like blank guns
KingSalami19D 3 years ago
you should have used a bench rest for the accuracy tests, would have been more accurate
streetgangtm 3 years ago 7
You can't really compare a TM m4a1 with a Systema PTW. Completely different.
LordAvgasror 3 years ago 12
@LordAvgasror the systema is waay better, its used as a professional training weapon. marui is shitty, its low fps to somwere around 370fps with .20, the PTW is around 600fps with .25 and 390 with .43
blizzard249 1 year ago
@blizzard249 lol you fail......
TheFinalFrame 1 year ago
based on my experience, i would more likely to choose systema ptw over tokio marui. systema has a lot heavier rigidity, and it is more like a real gun so it is easier to use for me. most tokio marui guns are plastic and bbs fly agnoizingly slow. however, i would have to say tokyo marui hop up is great. and i would love it if systema ptw rifles were a bit cheaper..
kimmin1208 3 years ago
very funny this training...
TiberSeptim 3 years ago 3
use the red tube in the systema next time lol
zXBurningHaloXz 3 years ago 4
lol yah haha
thejackosaur 3 years ago
姿勢悪っ!
zonbyman 3 years ago
what kind of guns are the pistol and the m4 in the end that uses cartridges.
kevintao95 3 years ago
This is a thing called a [model gun]. They are ejection of a cartridge, and a thing which enjoys action without shooting a bullet It is Japanese original culture
GFBmarines 3 years ago
i want one :P
kevintao95 3 years ago
and does it shoot out any thing :p
kevintao95 3 years ago
awesome guns. those are available only in japan or can you get them in united states also?
gbinuya 2 years ago
@GFBmarines engrish fail
dmen108 1 year ago
ラストに
トランディション!
レフト!
ライト!
ダウン!ダウン!!
ってとこモデルガンってのが渋いよ☆
あたいもチームに入りたいっす。
...にしても金かかってるねえ;;
hootm727 3 years ago
お褒めの言葉ありがとうございます!
モデルガンはいいですよ~。撮影するにはもってこいの素材です。
金は・・・PTWはチャレンジキットをボーナスで
・・・、マルイM4は借り物です。
むしろ撮影する人が欲しい・・・チームはあくまでサバゲがメインですからね。
GFBmarines 3 years ago
well systema is well better than marui,and the difference is systema is damn expensive.
mcbong10 3 years ago
Both gun rocks, but man you stands silly in the beginning when you firing =D
Softiz9999 3 years ago 2
妙にカッコイイのはなぜだ?
sinnrainotubasa 3 years ago
お褒め?の言葉ありがとうございます。
動画は適当に撮影して編集しただけです。
GFBmarines 3 years ago
PTW is wayyyyyy betterrrrr!!!!!
AirsoftIsSweet 3 years ago
Great Video!!!
FerdyMX84 3 years ago
:) you can hear the difference between the two weapons.
gtovar223 3 years ago
the grouping on the systema shots were closer even if one missed
2bakeww 3 years ago
9/10 BBs hit with the 300FPS Cylinder. For 300FPS at that range. Thats good. Wonder what the Grouping with the 450 Cylinder would be like.
vtairsoft 3 years ago
In the part with the P90 and M4 wat were the things coming out of the bolt ? Were they shells ?
nigahiga001010 3 years ago
This is a thing called a [model gun]. They are ejection of a cartridge, and a thing which enjoys action without shooting a bullet It is Japanese original culture
GFBmarines 3 years ago
The model gun is very cool! So is the systema, good video and equally good comparison.
moddit 3 years ago
Thank you!
I do my best from now on
GFBmarines 3 years ago
damn that TM was quiet.
MixtapeSkippy 3 years ago
hey hey dude i just realized ur japanese!!! so am i!! where you from?
Slickbullet813 3 years ago
My hometown is Aomori Prefecture in Japan.
GFBmarines 3 years ago
the marui had a bigger delay between the shot and the bb hitting the target and also seemed more sluggish
mmtroop616 3 years ago
sint the black cylynder an m90 spring? there should be no considerable difference in fps the marui did have a delay but unoticable during combat
gotja 3 years ago
are you guys speaking english ?
Vietboy1st 3 years ago
No, English cannot be spoken. It is translation software altogether.
GFBmarines 3 years ago
is this a real gun ?
mikemiester0011 3 years ago
This is a thing called a [model gun]. They are ejection of a cartridge, and a thing which enjoys action without shooting a bullet
GFBmarines 3 years ago
righto , shotto ....... :D
tiko257 3 years ago
当たるかどうかは、腕前しだい。
tanakayutaro2 3 years ago
Awesome stuff.
This wasn't an '08 PTW, was it?
Kos45 3 years ago
It is different. This is 06PTW.
but, cylinder unit are 08 models.
GFBmarines 3 years ago
Ah! That explains it.
Was this a Challenge kit aswell?
Kos45 3 years ago
This is 06 challenge kit.
I want new PTWMP5!
GFBmarines 3 years ago
Yeah :) It looks really nice. Hopefully it can out preform a marui ;)
Kos45 3 years ago
This is a thing called a [model gun]. They are ejection of a cartridge, and a thing which enjoys action without shooting a bullet. In culture unique to Japan, it is used also for photography of a movie.
GFBmarines 3 years ago
What's the deal with the ejections from these guns? Was that edited in to make it look more real or what?
Tomlin242 3 years ago
PTW looks like it has tighter grouping and was placed more in the center of the target, anyone else notice that? I just bought a PTW waiting for it to come in the mail. Cant wait. :)
Dosmac640 4 years ago 2
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MARUI sucks
MGmannen 4 years ago
well compared to the systema PTW it does, (DUH)
but then again the PTW is 300 bucks more ( yes i did say MORE ) then a real m16 rifle so of course it's better in every way.
marui's are only extarnally bad ( plastic, plastic, oh hey more plastic ) but the internals are good. but then again they are bad value for money since the price tags are not something that would make you smile.
realtoyz13 3 years ago
wait can you please do the 1k74 vs ptw, i would like to see that. how far was that too??
DaOneAndOnly3 4 years ago
you shud make a comparison of the VFC AKS 74, and the CA AKS 74 that wud be awesome man.
gaastra12 4 years ago
I do my best next time. Therefore, allow :lol
Do you want to see comparison of vfc AK74UN and PTW?
GFBmarines 4 years ago
this is sort of a stupid comparison. that would be like comparing a lpeg to my vfc ak. of course the systema is better, however magazines are 50 bucks each and only come in aeg standard cap. so if you can afford that go you lol.
yourredcomrade717 4 years ago
Right, but I was surprised how well the TM did, those wernt too bad groupings if it were completely stocked. That was a good distance and the bbs did lodge themselves into the cardboard.
AirsoftHawaii09 4 years ago
well i wasnt too suprised, tm makes one of the most consistant running aegs on the market with excellent hopup and very good stock barrels for the price. systema barrels are not so good. it makes perfect sense to me. though the tm m4a1s biggest flaw is the plastic body, the barrel wobble and the crappy hopup unit. then again all airsoft m4s are plagued with some major design flaw.
i think the vfc scar vs the ptw would have been a more fair test.
yourredcomrade717 4 years ago
sorry but I think that a human element is the most important
It is not the move which pursued accuracy.
It is kind if you understand.
I am sorry for awkward English.
GFBmarines 4 years ago
Not a very good test. Should do a 5" to 10" diagram.....and then check the accuracy and the groupings for first....i would like to see the comparison...
xlogicx 4 years ago