The Wolf Man would eventually win. He's too agile for Frankenstein. Frankenstein would be in trouble if the Wolf Man decided to use his teeth and claws.
Okay, who do you think was winning or would have win the fight, had the dam not been busted? First time round I was calling it for wolfie, but looking at it again, I'm not so sure. I agree with the earlier comment ,Lugosi brings an ambiguity to the creature. I like it best that way - not a totally mindless evil creature because that's boring, but nor a pathetic shambling one either - because the pathos overwhelms the horror then. Lugosi got the balance pretty spot on there.
@cosytoesUK i dunno-it's pretty obvious that igor was evil-if the monster is supposed to be igor now than he really is evil-even the non-igor monster had a "bad brain" -tho he seems quite noble in bride of frankenstein "we belong dead" -but the wolfman on the other hand should be a mindless beast- for some reason here he tries to fight franky when he's got the girl-why? to save her? or just because he's there?
If the ending had been different? "Heir Varsac"would have been thrown into prison for destroying the village damn.Even if it trapped "The Frankenstein Monster" and"The Wolfman"under all that debris.
It became clear that Lugosi simply wasn't up to playing the Frankenstein monster. By now he was 60 and he was clearly not as fit and strong as he once was. Eddie Parker a stuntman to be on hand every day, in full make up, in case Lugosi couldn't carry on. Parker is featured in the film in all of the more active scenes and in the monster's first appearance, frozen in the ice.
I also have to say I love Lugosi and Chaney in this movie. I remember the first time viewing I didn't really like how the Monster moves slowly and clumsily unlike with Karloff's performance or in the book. I had forgotten the studio originally meant it to be more accurate with Ghost of Frankenstein until he recovers here. It wasn't Lugosi's fault they decided not to. As for Chaney no one could beat him as Talbot. del Toro wasn't too bad as the Wolfman but he was kind of lacking the pitiful side.
@balrog13571 - i thought lon chaney jnr. came off best in this than lugosi did. i think he was right to turn down the frankenstein creature character back in 1931. i agree that lon chaney jnr. is the definitive wolf man for now and ever more.
Actually Lugosi never turned down the role. He didn't it but he still tried out for it but the original make-up on him looked so ridiculous to Carl Lemmle Jr. that he burst out laughing and turned him down. Lugosi was fine not getting the role, but after Karloff's fame rose he never refused one no matter how stupid they were at times. As I said it was more studio interferance that made him seem out of place a bit but I like how he plays him in a more evil way due to Ygor's brain.
@balrog13571 ... Lugosi was totally offered Frankenstein after the success of Dracula! He turned the role down because he didn't think it was "sexy" enough. All the grunting and groaning. Lugosi was a ladies man!
I'm guessing you got that from Ed Wood. No what I said was written in the big book of Universal Horror and everything I've read so far seems to be the truth. Lugosi didn't like the role, but he still tried out for it but THEY turned HIM down taking Karloff as the Monster and James Whale as the director. As much as I love Lugosi and while the movie took alot of liberties with the novel, none have beaten Karloff's performance. Lugosi stole the whole show in Son of Frankenstein though
@MrPrestoTV I heard he also turned down the original Frankenstein because he didn't want his looks all covered in creature makeup. He was definately a ladies man.
It kind of annoys me that most people think of this as a vs movie. It's more of a meeting of two greats who just wind up fighting in the end. Up till then The Monster and Talbot (in human form) are perfectly chummy. It's just their violent sides prevail. That said what a fight! I disagree with James Cameron. It was much better than that AvP movie. That had no character, thought, or heart. The classics monster movies did. Yeah they kind of milked them, but at least they put some effort in.
Poor Bela he was not able to work with this role.
He was forced to play the part as the writers and director told
to play it. He should have turned "The Frankenstein Montster"role down again as he did back in 1931.But he was in dire fiancial straits..which is why he took on this forgetable part.
I was a kid when I first saw this on the late late late show. This was the ultamate in monster movie battles....until I saw King Kong vs Godzilla.
It's a shame we have to grow up because I changed but the movies didn't. Now Frankenstein meets the Wolfman is still great but King Kong vs Godzilla sucks.
i have heard that lugosi turned down the job of being the frankenstein monster in the first universal studios movie, thereby causing the studio to pick someone else, and the studio picked karloff. seems that lugosi rejected the part because the monster didn't say any words. seems that lugosi eventually fell on hard times, and thus he settled for being the frankenstein monster in "frankenstein meets the wolfman".
I agree about that sideways glance. It is pure evil. I think it is the scariest scene in all of the Universal Frankenstein films. The films are all excellent, but not really scary anymore- at least to me. But this look sure is creepy.
Its true! In every film, including the ones with the great Karloff, the creature is to be pitied; a pathetic product of ambition and madness. In this movie, however, there is an undeniable trace of evil in the monster- a "knowing" of sorts. Long live Lugosi!
I agree with you! I know some have suggested that Lugosi played the monster in this evil way, because that was how the creature was at the end of "The Ghost of Frankenstein." Lionel Atwill secretly put the knowing, evil Ygor's brain in the monster's head, and when Chaney, Jr., as the monster, wakes up, he speaks in Ygor's voice. His monster also had that evil look in his eye. Lugosi would have played the character that way, before the studio cut his part to pieces, deleting all his dialogue.
A true connoisseur of monsterdom, I salute you, sir! I remember reading somewhere that the monster was supposed to be blinded at the begining of the film, but that was edited out. That is where the trademark walk with the arms splayed out came from.
That's right. At the end of "Ghost of Frankenstein," the monster, with Ygor's brain, goes blind, because his blood type isn't the same as Ygor's. He goes berserk, and burns the place down. When he reappears in "Frankenstein Meets the...", he is supposed to be blind. He also talks. But the studio decided this was too much, and cut it all. Lugosi's outstretched-arms walk makes sense when you realize he's blind.
One of my favorite Universal films although I feel that Lugosi, a master in his own right, was just too small for the part of the Frankenstein monster. Chaney could have easily manhandled Lugosi in the battle between the two. Karloff,or gunsmoke's bartender Glenn Strange, would have been a much better choice. Still I give this film two thumbs up!
Actually the good thing is Lugosi did not play the Frankenstein Monster in the fight scenes. Lugosi was only used in the close ups. The Monster was played by another actor /stuntman during the fight scenes. Lugosi was too old and in ill heath to perform in any of the fight scenes.
Yeah, I agree. A guy like Glenn Strange would have worked much better in this role. Glenn Strange would have made the Monster more imposing and scary. Lugosi was here because of name value only.
Can we historically say that this has to be "the first" ever pairing of two horror icons? Conceptually back then it was sure to draw in the "bobbysoxers" to see these two go at each other's throats. Yet although I do enjoy this film, in terms of a no holds-barred confrontation among monsters it pales in comparison to "King Kong VS Godzilla" ...LOL (Now watch some dumb-ass respond and say that "Freddy VS Jason" is better than both those films in regards to a match-up)
Film historian Gregory William Mank has asserted that Ilona Massey's screams in this movie are probably the worst of the Frankenstein series. She screams like an opera singer trying to preserve her voice.
Wow Thanks for posting this! Bring back great memmories as a child in the 1970 staying up real late to see on the Sci-fi show! A great fight back up by powerful orchestral music. Unlike the other copy on YouTube, you don't cut up the fight, like he did. Thanks!
Not the end yet. They get freed from the ice by Dr. Nieman in "House of Frankenstein." They don't make good monster films anymore like this. I'm writing a "sequel" to this series and maybe the tradition will be carried on.
3:18 Wolfman: Don't worry, guys, I'm on it!
enterprise160 1 month ago
lol at 3:38
calebinthehouse 2 months ago
LMFAO hell na frankenstien treated the wolfmans ass at 5:00 wen he pushed em off that oven thingy lol
014daddy 2 months ago
At 4:10 the wolfman juss strate up smiled at frankenstien lol
014daddy 2 months ago
The Wolf Man would eventually win. He's too agile for Frankenstein. Frankenstein would be in trouble if the Wolf Man decided to use his teeth and claws.
enterprise160 3 months ago
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enterprise160 3 months ago
I wish the doctor and that German guy with the curly mustache didn't survive at the end. They were the biggest pricks in the movie!
CoolerKing37 3 months ago
Because of a sixty year old Lugosi we have a very stiff frankenstein monster.
incrediblehulkmovies 3 months ago
@incrediblehulkmovies Long Live Bela Lugosi!!!!
cstoczyn 3 months ago
this would have been a lot better if karloff played the frankenstein monster in this.
veeseee128 3 months ago
Happy Halloween!!!!
cstoczyn 3 months ago
Wolfman to the rescue!!!
leftcoaster67 3 months ago
@leftcoaster67 GO LAWRENCE!!!!
cstoczyn 3 months ago
The golden age of horror classics.
spraymalathionjerry 4 months ago
@spraymalathionjerry MMM HMM
cstoczyn 3 months ago
"Don't pull that switch!"
Pretty girls mess up everything.
SeniorProperNoun 8 months ago
@SeniorProperNoun TOO LATE!!!!
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
cstoczyn 3 months ago
damn villagers were a bunch of haters lol
Doctorfreek 9 months ago 3
@Doctorfreek OMG!
cstoczyn 3 months ago
great final scene, Frankenstein is stronger but Wolfman is faster and bi-sexual.
billthestinker 10 months ago
@billthestinker LOL
ericxhi 7 months ago
@ericxhi FTW
cstoczyn 3 months ago
@billthestinker And More Powerful, That Is
cstoczyn 3 months ago
man damn! frankey stiff. haha
veeseee128 10 months ago
@veeseee128 LOL
cstoczyn 3 months ago
@cstoczyn yeah i know. frankenstein like; get off me! get off me! haha
veeseee128 3 months ago
@veeseee128 FTW
cstoczyn 3 months ago
@cstoczyn what does ftw stand for?
veeseee128 3 months ago
@veeseee128 FTW = For The Win
cstoczyn 3 months ago
HOW COULD YOU UNIVERSAL?! how could you live me thinking what happens?! Ugh... I just wasted my one though cell that I get every 10 years...damn.
werewolf9613 10 months ago
Awesome movie,awesome fight scene.
doug8798 10 months ago
Crap...why did they write out the next ten minutes? I heard the group gasp, and then the credits.
Never buid a dam above your village.
CharlieOchs 1 year ago
Okay, who do you think was winning or would have win the fight, had the dam not been busted? First time round I was calling it for wolfie, but looking at it again, I'm not so sure. I agree with the earlier comment ,Lugosi brings an ambiguity to the creature. I like it best that way - not a totally mindless evil creature because that's boring, but nor a pathetic shambling one either - because the pathos overwhelms the horror then. Lugosi got the balance pretty spot on there.
cosytoesUK 1 year ago
@cosytoesUK i dunno-it's pretty obvious that igor was evil-if the monster is supposed to be igor now than he really is evil-even the non-igor monster had a "bad brain" -tho he seems quite noble in bride of frankenstein "we belong dead" -but the wolfman on the other hand should be a mindless beast- for some reason here he tries to fight franky when he's got the girl-why? to save her? or just because he's there?
trapadoored 9 months ago
@trapadoored IDK
cstoczyn 3 months ago
This isn't how it really ended. With those nostrils, Lugosi inhaled the town and lived happily ever after!
spsmonktoo 1 year ago
It would really be funny if that flood went waayyy down hill and wiped out the village below.
SirReal1958 1 year ago 2
That was the collapse ceiling switch! You fool!
richardshort2001 1 year ago
If the ending had been different? "Heir Varsac"would have been thrown into prison for destroying the village damn.Even if it trapped "The Frankenstein Monster" and"The Wolfman"under all that debris.
143AC 1 year ago
The Wolfman would own Jacob from Twilight so bad.
ArmandtheWise 1 year ago 6
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toamatoro614 1 year ago
It became clear that Lugosi simply wasn't up to playing the Frankenstein monster. By now he was 60 and he was clearly not as fit and strong as he once was. Eddie Parker a stuntman to be on hand every day, in full make up, in case Lugosi couldn't carry on. Parker is featured in the film in all of the more active scenes and in the monster's first appearance, frozen in the ice.
overner2001 1 year ago
I also have to say I love Lugosi and Chaney in this movie. I remember the first time viewing I didn't really like how the Monster moves slowly and clumsily unlike with Karloff's performance or in the book. I had forgotten the studio originally meant it to be more accurate with Ghost of Frankenstein until he recovers here. It wasn't Lugosi's fault they decided not to. As for Chaney no one could beat him as Talbot. del Toro wasn't too bad as the Wolfman but he was kind of lacking the pitiful side.
balrog13571 1 year ago
@balrog13571 - i thought lon chaney jnr. came off best in this than lugosi did. i think he was right to turn down the frankenstein creature character back in 1931. i agree that lon chaney jnr. is the definitive wolf man for now and ever more.
aewd1980 1 year ago
@aewd1980
Actually Lugosi never turned down the role. He didn't it but he still tried out for it but the original make-up on him looked so ridiculous to Carl Lemmle Jr. that he burst out laughing and turned him down. Lugosi was fine not getting the role, but after Karloff's fame rose he never refused one no matter how stupid they were at times. As I said it was more studio interferance that made him seem out of place a bit but I like how he plays him in a more evil way due to Ygor's brain.
balrog13571 1 year ago
@balrog13571 ... Lugosi was totally offered Frankenstein after the success of Dracula! He turned the role down because he didn't think it was "sexy" enough. All the grunting and groaning. Lugosi was a ladies man!
MrPrestoTV 1 year ago
@MrPrestoTV
I'm guessing you got that from Ed Wood. No what I said was written in the big book of Universal Horror and everything I've read so far seems to be the truth. Lugosi didn't like the role, but he still tried out for it but THEY turned HIM down taking Karloff as the Monster and James Whale as the director. As much as I love Lugosi and while the movie took alot of liberties with the novel, none have beaten Karloff's performance. Lugosi stole the whole show in Son of Frankenstein though
balrog13571 1 year ago
@MrPrestoTV I heard he also turned down the original Frankenstein because he didn't want his looks all covered in creature makeup. He was definately a ladies man.
hulkster46a 1 year ago
It kind of annoys me that most people think of this as a vs movie. It's more of a meeting of two greats who just wind up fighting in the end. Up till then The Monster and Talbot (in human form) are perfectly chummy. It's just their violent sides prevail. That said what a fight! I disagree with James Cameron. It was much better than that AvP movie. That had no character, thought, or heart. The classics monster movies did. Yeah they kind of milked them, but at least they put some effort in.
balrog13571 1 year ago 3
y does frankstein like to carry girls away.
steph52899 1 year ago
even though i love this werewolf the newer one would rip him to shreads
ryananderson280195 1 year ago
It would have been so much easier if Lawrence had just found a fast-flowing river and jumped into it!
cottonwhiskersuk 1 year ago
Do I hear around of applause for realonlinemedia?
krissykris100 1 year ago
At 1:55 "He's Liking It!"
TheSupremeGenius 1 year ago
@NovusOrdo2012 hehe yeah.
bmaclean13 1 year ago
Loved this as a kid. Wolfman always rocked!
bballervirgo1 1 year ago
Wolfman wasn't afraid of Frankie for even 1 second!! Well, it IS hard to injure a werewolf without fire or silver.
GarthanSaal444 1 year ago
i like the wolfman and i like frankenstiens monster. but wich is better? theres only one way to find out; FIGHT!!
bmaclean13 1 year ago
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great movie i just watched it and it rocks. i also found a site to watch it at lauraspage . info/wolfman
themovieinsider1 1 year ago
must admit i was expecting this to be an awefull film,but i really enjoyed it,great more films i have to buy lol
smiler418 1 year ago
Thanks for uploading mate
curiousandyb 2 years ago
This would be a great WWE match on PPV or better yet TNA Hardcore Match..
Motherboard46 2 years ago
Poor Bela he was not able to work with this role.
He was forced to play the part as the writers and director told
to play it. He should have turned "The Frankenstein Montster"role down again as he did back in 1931.But he was in dire fiancial straits..which is why he took on this forgetable part.
143AC 2 years ago
Awesome
Humtuer2 2 years ago
I was a kid when I first saw this on the late late late show. This was the ultamate in monster movie battles....until I saw King Kong vs Godzilla.
It's a shame we have to grow up because I changed but the movies didn't. Now Frankenstein meets the Wolfman is still great but King Kong vs Godzilla sucks.
FamilyOfMan1975 2 years ago
the studio made lugosi's monster look bad, not lugosi himself!!!
emoviebuff87 2 years ago
i have heard that lugosi turned down the job of being the frankenstein monster in the first universal studios movie, thereby causing the studio to pick someone else, and the studio picked karloff. seems that lugosi rejected the part because the monster didn't say any words. seems that lugosi eventually fell on hard times, and thus he settled for being the frankenstein monster in "frankenstein meets the wolfman".
coventrygardens 2 years ago
Lugosi made the monster stiff and clumsy. He was sixty when he did this. He probably should've turned it down.
incrediblehulkmovies 2 years ago
Amazing you are right! Bela Lugosi was about 59-60 years old in 1942. He did very good job considering his age! I never looked that up.
silkmann 2 years ago
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04:07 lugosi looks so dumb! his facial expressions are just BAD.
burtonrules123 2 years ago
Great classic! Thanks for posting this! : )
PeachesandCream4you 2 years ago
Lugosi was better as dracula.
huguoso 2 years ago 3
Wolfman would've worn him down eventually.
Rodelu10915 2 years ago
LOL yah
burtonrules123 2 years ago
I thin Lugosi's Frankenstien is creepy. That sideways glance gives me the chills to this day!
Rodelu10915 2 years ago 12
I agree about that sideways glance. It is pure evil. I think it is the scariest scene in all of the Universal Frankenstein films. The films are all excellent, but not really scary anymore- at least to me. But this look sure is creepy.
djuma77 2 years ago 4
Its true! In every film, including the ones with the great Karloff, the creature is to be pitied; a pathetic product of ambition and madness. In this movie, however, there is an undeniable trace of evil in the monster- a "knowing" of sorts. Long live Lugosi!
Rodelu10915 2 years ago 12
I agree with you! I know some have suggested that Lugosi played the monster in this evil way, because that was how the creature was at the end of "The Ghost of Frankenstein." Lionel Atwill secretly put the knowing, evil Ygor's brain in the monster's head, and when Chaney, Jr., as the monster, wakes up, he speaks in Ygor's voice. His monster also had that evil look in his eye. Lugosi would have played the character that way, before the studio cut his part to pieces, deleting all his dialogue.
djuma77 2 years ago
A true connoisseur of monsterdom, I salute you, sir! I remember reading somewhere that the monster was supposed to be blinded at the begining of the film, but that was edited out. That is where the trademark walk with the arms splayed out came from.
Rodelu10915 2 years ago 3
That's right. At the end of "Ghost of Frankenstein," the monster, with Ygor's brain, goes blind, because his blood type isn't the same as Ygor's. He goes berserk, and burns the place down. When he reappears in "Frankenstein Meets the...", he is supposed to be blind. He also talks. But the studio decided this was too much, and cut it all. Lugosi's outstretched-arms walk makes sense when you realize he's blind.
djuma77 2 years ago 5
@Rodelu10915 RIP Bela Lugosi
cstoczyn 3 months ago
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no way lugosi look like a dimwit as franketien.
burtonrules123 2 years ago
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no way lugosi look like a dimwit as franketien.
burtonrules123 2 years ago
Woah...Man that was scary! but it was fun too :)
Thanks for posting the film, but now I got to get clean underwear.
jedibill111 2 years ago
Alot of classic horror movies end with the castle collapsing.
JCTFilms 2 years ago
One of my favorite Universal films although I feel that Lugosi, a master in his own right, was just too small for the part of the Frankenstein monster. Chaney could have easily manhandled Lugosi in the battle between the two. Karloff,or gunsmoke's bartender Glenn Strange, would have been a much better choice. Still I give this film two thumbs up!
5inchreel 2 years ago
Actually the good thing is Lugosi did not play the Frankenstein Monster in the fight scenes. Lugosi was only used in the close ups. The Monster was played by another actor /stuntman during the fight scenes. Lugosi was too old and in ill heath to perform in any of the fight scenes.
rozman20 2 years ago 3
Thanks for reminding me of this. This is true, but I do believe that a much larger actor,in my opinion, would have made the monster more believable.
5inchreel 2 years ago
Yeah, I agree. A guy like Glenn Strange would have worked much better in this role. Glenn Strange would have made the Monster more imposing and scary. Lugosi was here because of name value only.
rozman20 2 years ago
Can we historically say that this has to be "the first" ever pairing of two horror icons? Conceptually back then it was sure to draw in the "bobbysoxers" to see these two go at each other's throats. Yet although I do enjoy this film, in terms of a no holds-barred confrontation among monsters it pales in comparison to "King Kong VS Godzilla" ...LOL (Now watch some dumb-ass respond and say that "Freddy VS Jason" is better than both those films in regards to a match-up)
Jacbill63 2 years ago
Thanks for posting, classic
crugee 2 years ago
Spoilers below :(
Thrusted2 2 years ago
Nit picky logistical question- How can the flood destroy the castle, up on a hill, and NOT flood the town, down in the valley?
GoblinXXX 2 years ago
LOL Don't try to figure it out bro. just enjoy thee time when REAL movies were made.
jst2k09 2 years ago
Well thats why the had to end the movie there :3 The sequel was called "Watch the villagers drown" lol j/k
SkanRashke 2 years ago 2
Actually, watching the very end, it DOES look like the people watching from the village are going "Holy shit, here comes the water!"
They could have had the Creature from the Black Lagoon in the sequel...
GoblinXXX 2 years ago
Thanks for posting these.
thekth 2 years ago
Film historian Gregory William Mank has asserted that Ilona Massey's screams in this movie are probably the worst of the Frankenstein series. She screams like an opera singer trying to preserve her voice.
MasterFett17 3 years ago
Thanks for uploading this excellent movie!!!!!!!
Shammyers33 3 years ago
My favorite Monster movie of the time. Thanks.
erwintommy 3 years ago
Wow Thanks for posting this! Bring back great memmories as a child in the 1970 staying up real late to see on the Sci-fi show! A great fight back up by powerful orchestral music. Unlike the other copy on YouTube, you don't cut up the fight, like he did. Thanks!
silkmann 3 years ago 2
Not the end yet. They get freed from the ice by Dr. Nieman in "House of Frankenstein." They don't make good monster films anymore like this. I'm writing a "sequel" to this series and maybe the tradition will be carried on.
NorbertZF 3 years ago
one my fav movies, thankz
Lonniebp222 3 years ago
ther both good as for dracula he sucks
MRJyde 3 years ago 2
Wolfman PWNS Frankie, Anyday.
speedsurfer123 3 years ago 2
Damn straight lol
ghostbuster56 3 years ago
hells yeah
speedsurfer123 3 years ago