My thought process while doing F2L - One step stop

[KKspRodaK]

Well, I watched many of your videos, but I'm not sure if you have explained all algorithms for the fridrich method as you use them in this video. There has been some cases where I thought "What the hell has he actually done?" O.o

What I can say is that your explanations are very useful and helpful and I appreciate your work!

Sorry for the bad grammar, english isn't my mother tongue as you might noticed, haha.

[Ixzhaust]

your voice is sexy



[TheAhmet1453]

Feliks Zemdegs must make a LOOK AHEAD tutorial for noobs like us llol

[yasoufi]

we are not stuck with u! we... nvm i think ur the bomb

[Kingpin3o7]

What should my solve time with beginners method be when i try to learn this? or does it matter?

[alexjohnlockwood]

@Kingpin3o7 you should be able to solve all 41 f2l cases blindfolded... getting the hang of the content in this video takes a LOT of time and determination

[uNamed2lyfe]

3:30

"this is a sune...i cant resist" hahaha!!!

[BigBossHuntelaar]

at 3:50 you say that that orange/green pair requires a CR , but it doesn't, you can just do the algorithm for it from that angle and it is 2 gen ( l an u)

[sloosh6000]

anyone else laugh at "nice pair"?

[spudnick160]

i can never get this type of f2l, so after five minutes i desinged my own type of f2l. still thinking of a name

[kennykart123]

where does the camera come from?

[gleetooth]

lol "it's a sune, i can't resist"

[LEGOHOUSEPRODUCTIONS]

OH... MY ...Gosh! I watched your first F2L Video and i understood and i wrote notes in a 3 inch notebook so i always have them with me! Thank You

[emis2004]

I like how you twist the cube. How long are you solving cubes?

[JBoogie300]

sometimes, i try not to do cube rotations but i have to do F and B turns that are very uncomfortable and slow. from there should i just do a cube rotation??

[hhhkingofkings888]

@JBoogie300 try to use minimal F moves but never attempt to use B in some cases 1 F move+ R U moves s faster than cube rotation + R U moves usually inserting the last slot

[JBoogie300]

@hhhkingofkings888 ok cool yeah i see watcha sayin and now i dont use B moves

[Ebbzzor]

Incredible helpful video! Is it still up to date?

I mean, it was uploaded 2 years ago, do you still use same method?

[badmephisto]

@Ebbzzor I do indeed! Thank you!

[MrCodyjw]

where did you get your cube that it moves so smoothly and doest hook on its own corners and edges?

[RonnieBrewerFan]

"I'm 17 seconds but not very good"... shut up.

[ViralOblivion]

idk if anyone said so earlier, but a 2:40, imo it wouldve been easier with : (U'RU'R') then having 2 pairs together (RG and RB), insert both with R'U'FRF'... just stating a fact here, not trying to judge.... instead of fucking your RG pair up.... my two cents :)

[RyanReese09]

what algorithm do you use for the bad bad case at 5:30. i need a better one for that

also, i need one the algorithm for where the white is on the right (corner peice) instead of on hte front

What do you use (also tell how you hold it)

if you do a short short video of it then I'dappreciate it, if not, then just post the algorithm

[MackinMonarch]

Meph. You are the MAN!!! Out of all the people on YouTube you give the most epic tutorials and instructional videos I've seen. You've helped me move up from LBL that came as an instruction sheet when I bought my first Cube about a month ago and now I'm doing full Fridricks averaging about 30 seconds now because of your videos. Keep up the good work man!

[nakaji1085]

Wait... if you can see 2 stickers of a corner you can know the third one, you dont need to move U-face to see it

[tspuna]

Your comment inspiring me.. you are super cuber

Why you dont teach by yourself? i wait for a loooong time...

[GaroMaster1337]

awesome concept, this was eeeextremely helpful

[nam2661996]

good

[431095]

what brand is this cube you using?

[monkeydude13I3]

I suck

[XJ6XJ6]

@monkeydude13I3 fuck you hater!

[AVENGERxerozero]

That is so cool..you did that like a sudoku master...never seen anybody handle the cube like that. Awesome.

[GrtrThnClnD]

lol the gasp at the end. xD

[DudeSeriouslyAWESOME]

where did you get your cubes?

[Javib325]

If you want to get free cubes please message me!! This isn't a scam. I have proof.

[twistnturn44]

meph you should be a partner

[TheAccidentalFreak]

+1000000

[jopeters]

how long would you say it takes the average person to get a hang of this step? sometimes it takes me multiple minutes just to get one pair in the right spot, usually the most trouble comes from pairs being next to each other but in the wrong orientation

[badmephisto]

shh! stop the complain! start the practicing! yall so impatient :D

[1hit2hitown]

how fast should i be before getting into OLL?

[FirefoxFreeze]

Learn a few algs a week.

[IPwnAllAndLeaveNone]

@FirefoxFreeze

The most i learnt was 14 in 2 days O_O

[IPwnAllAndLeaveNone]

@FirefoxFreeze

the most I learnt was 14 in 2 days, they were 2 look OLL and PLLs, so they are easy to memorize

[richogem]

...right ahead.

its just memorization

it has nothing to do with finger tricks and method... like the f2l

[rooroo12345678]

I was down to about 2:30 when i started and i'm coming along nicely.

[IPwnAllAndLeaveNone]

@1hit2hitown

Until you feel comfortable with F2L.

Im going to learn one look OLL when my time averages at 55 seconds, then I will learn one look PLL when my time is at 45 seconds.

[IPwnAllAndLeaveNone]

@IPwnAllAndLeaveNone

Turns out my time is at 45 average now, but i still have 30 one look OLLs to learn before one look PLLs

[Tortak39]

Practice and watch various F2L Videos such as LanceTheBlueKnight's and also badmephisto :)

[TheMrLaugh]

@jopeters if the pairs are next to each other but in the wrong orientation, put them in the back row of the cube and do r 2u r' if they are not separated do r u r'

[TomboyGirlzX]

F2l is including the cross?

[GunZnRifles]

nope

[M1KE9815]

yes and no literally yes because its in the first 2 layers but in the cfop method known as fridrich it is its own step not including the cross

[uNamed2lyfe]

umm....i might be wrong here but....

at 3:30...u sed u got a 'sune' but isnt tht an 'anti-sune'????

[jesseliston]

it was an anti sune but he said "It is A sune meaning it was either anti or regular

[uNamed2lyfe]

lol

[NalleDanne]

how long did it takes for you too get this good at f2l? and do you think that i should be this secure at f2l before i continue to learn oll? and one last question :p should i learn 2look oll first and then full oll or full oll first?

[TheVte]

Learn all 2 look, then start moving your way up PLL. I just finished learning it today! =)

[uNamed2lyfe]

2 look oll and then full oll

[M1KE9815]

im not a pro but i average 19 seconds id learn 2look oll first and know atleast 2look pll but go for full pll. and solve the f2l intuitivly as much as possible youll begin to get faster. Good Luck

[asswipedude5]

ay man....can u tell me what it means by ''2-look''...?

[oprah62]

get a cross on the last lyr first, then use a oll hence 2look oll. for pll u orient corners and edges, so its 2 looks for both in total 4 for last lyr

[PHDnHorribleness]

i only just started learning f2l, but i know you're being 100% honest about the edges. a while ago i noticed i started seeing the other edges while solving for the second layer edges, which made it so i didn't have to search for them and would sometimes rotate immediately after solving for the edge. i guess that's how you feel, only in a much more complicated way XD

[R31n4rdJ0]

what is the notation on 04.33?

[cjandlc]

haha you guys are making me feel like a noob! im just now trying to learn all this stuff. i mean, i average 40 seconds using a slightly modified beginners method, but im nowhere near as fast as i wanna be. lol

[siko182]

@ about 3:52 you call the green/orange pair an ugly pair...don't be so inpolite :p but seriously you can do it without a rotation. just do U' L2 U2 L' U' L' U' L2

i dunno i kinda like it however xD

[siko182]

well actually it's U' L2 U2 L' U' L U' L2

sry^^

[nhnt11]

at exactly 3:07 i wouldve done:

R' U' F R F'

it wouldve inserted 2 pairs with 5 moves

just a thought

[GunZnRifles]

what do you most likely see first: the corner or the edge?

[badmephisto]

usually the corner for me

[12andomNerd]

nice vid

[Catlicker101]

wow..another great video. One problem, is that you move and talk so fast sometimes, but it is expected..lol. Is there a program or something to slow down a utube vid to follow your finger movements and such..your moves are so fast and fluid smooth, i cannot follow it to get pointers on how to handle the cube...

[dalvirs]

do you still make videos

[ielfie]

do u never change the angle u hold the cube during a solve?

i mean i always move the cube around to look at the edges or corners at the side or back..

[badmephisto]

yes you almost never want to do that

[911MMM123MMM911]

Do you know the average of the 2 look method?

[A3onstorm]

Can you do finger tricks intuitively, or have you learnt all of them for every angle?

[IPwnAllAndLeaveNone]

@ielfie

Instead, try to use d and U to look for edges/corners

[iceymanjack]

so basically you have to think ahead

[darrenwks]

i get no shit!!

so hard!

[ThieflordZ5]

Oops, I forgot to ask, what method do you use?

[ThieflordZ5]

Woah, somehow, my first comment didn't get posted... Have you tried VHLS (called VHF2L but it really isn't), It would cut your times once you get it down, because you only have corners to orient, so not as many OLL's to recognize (saves time in OLL when you only have anti/sune and corners right?) If not, at least think about it...

[xXdaveXsuperstarXx]

Do not even think about learning the vhF2L if you are not planninb on the ZBLL. It is a waste of time, I have seen begginer speedcubers learn this in attempt to cut down there times and it has not worked.

[ThieflordZ5]

Thanks... Ditched VHF2L =) (almost consistent sub 40, pb 30.88)

What do you think of ZZ? (Just for F2L)

I can get in the mid 30's if I don't mess up on my counting...

[xXdaveXsuperstarXx]

You should learn some of the OLL's, and PLL's.

[ThieflordZ5]

Well, I already know all of the corner OLL's, the "two-look" one look OLL's and one or two more awkward ones (The W's, and some of the OLL's that appear in Y-perm and the inverse of the W's)

and ALL of the PLL's

So, what's your opinion on ZZLL?

[xXdaveXsuperstarXx]

I've never liked any of the ZB ZZ method. To may algorithims. While the first person to master it will probably hold the next world record. It wouldn't be quite as fun as it would be to do another method.

[SoulPill]

Do you use any algorithm yo mix the cube? Is always very similar.

[rubiksmasta]

thank you!

[BeasltyFry]

Yes, at 5:42 it required you to do a y2 move, there must be an eassyer way...Maybe if you toke them out with your left hand and did something I'm sure if you look at the case agen it should be eassy to figure out...

[abr71310]

"Accidental X-cross's scare the shit out of you"...

Even worse, a double X-cross scares the shit out of you because you only have 4 pieces to find.

What's even worse, is if they're in, but aligned wrong!!! :P

[RonnieBrewerFan]

"I only average 16 seconds"

Oh shut up.

[elakaungen]

This is great F2L-teching!

I think many take a fast look at the back of the cube in the beginning of the F2L, but that seems to be unnecessary.........

[bobbymapp]

I like the outtake at the end! lol

[BatafCube]

me 2

[RubiksAddict95]

At 3:05, I would do R U' R2' U' R' U R U R', which inserts both the BR and FR pair.

[JoeHannouch]

I also have the G15 gen 2 and the G5 :P

[shamah02]

At like 5:39-5:41, you could have used the red green pair to pop the orange blue pair out by using it as an empty slot.

[saipoami]

That's awesome! :)

You solve the cross so fast, i need 5-6 second to do what u did in less then 3 sec.

My record is 49 sec with amateur method, now learning F2L and almost all PLL done, OLL is at the end i think :) Like your video.

[pawanramuk]

waiting for random tricks and tips.

[emblem62]

your intuition is insane. how did you get your intuition to that level? did it come with time? any tips would be greatly appreciated. i only average 1:20 with fredrich and i watched your 2 look PLL it helped a lot and i would like to improve more. please keep the vids coming and keep up the great work

[xxxJOHNALEXxxx]

practice

[WeiseGuy91]

lol..."for now you are stuck with me"

made me laugh inside

[tatasaccount]

You're a real cuber. YOu can

[EriccLovesYou]

Haha i see... I havent cubed alot since 2 weeks ago. But my best was 33. I had a case with 2 F2L slots already in line so, for that it was 27. I average 40's.

[J8united]

I average 47s with my Keyhole method..Should I continue to practice F2L..?BTW.I just learned it

[sunnypingu123]

loving the dedication on Sune Solving :D:D

[Twister051]

After watching this video, the best thing that helped me get into the low 20's was talking to my self while doing slow solves. I would think and reason out loud and talk about the exact same things he is. I found this to be extremely helpful, good luck!

[ozziehey5]

great video, keep on making them

[GunZnRifles]

I can barely follow my moves, how am I supposed to follow what I will do next?? O_O

This is really difficult...

[badmephisto]

exactly. thats where practice comes in. if you dont have the moves automated yet, you are not ready.

[ThisIsWEB]

If you can't follow your moves, you need to get in a lot more practice before looking ahead.

Study the actions basic case algorithms and see what's happening to the corner and edge and how it happens. This helps your deductive reasoning when pairing corners and edges intuitively, so that you become better after.

[impeeking2]

great video

[EriccLovesYou]

Lol my F2L isnt that great. And i've been cubing for like 2 weeks. Gee <.<" Lol. I must suck. xD

I'm still a beginner of course. Anyway;

My time structure goes something like this:

Cross: 3-5 seconds

F2L: 30-35 seconds

2 Look OLL (Learning R U R' U' trigger OLL's): 6-11 seconds

2 Look PLL: 6-15 seconds

I average mid 50 seconds.

T_T How do i improve.

[icebreaker0426]

Practice...

Learn more algs...

Get a good cube and visit

speedsolving forums...

[JRefleX93]

It sounds to me like you need to practice finger tricks.

[joejackjojojo]

At 4:32 what are you doing? Its a blur and I cant really see it. I think you did it earlier in the video, but slower.

[MetalRufflez]

BTW2, Nice G15 =)

[MetalRufflez]

Damn, I've just watching your videos and practicing for, 3 hours or more, and I've already lowered my time from ~1:05 to ~0:45, with the cross "class", some tought tips and I've FINALLY managed to learn the F2L REALLY intuitively (was almost there =D).

Btw, Love the Quotes and the Bloopers. Requesting Permission to use "This is a Sune, I can't Resist" in public (probably in Portuguese, but still =D)

[EriccLovesYou]

with the case at 2:59, how do you do it when it's the opposite case. As in the edge/corner is flipped the wrong way.

[Arbz22788]

"u'r amazing...thnx coz i learned from you. God blz. I still want to improve my cubing within 40 sec plus.huhu...thx again. nice vid.

[EriccLovesYou]

Guys, with Bob Burtons F2L page, what's with the FR,FL,BR,BL stuff. I dont get that.

If someone could comment or PM me back, that would be great. Thanks a million.

[oAncel]

FR means the piece he is mentioning is at the Front Right position, FL for Front Left , BR for Back Right and BL for Back Left. That is what i notice, but it may not be true.

[goldentrumpet1]

Should you time your self if you are practicing f2l?

[icebreaker0426]

Yes!

it should help you

recognize what part of CFOP

you should focus/improve on...

[LIGHTSABERVINCE]

OH! No Way!!! :O

hehe... thanks man!

Thanks to your intuitive F2L, I managed to cut down my best time from 50 to 20!

;)

[oAncel]

"I assumed this is white. HUH?!"

LOL that was funny.

[WorkingHardly1]

Haha. "This is a sune, I can't resist." I always do the same when I practice the F2L.

[kickinwing2112]

do you ever use d or d' in your f2ls

[rubikscube10]

where are f2l algs?

[0147896325rubikcube]

Your endings are the funniest.

[CarcassRot]

add &fmt=18 to watch in high quality.

[Schvetlana]

haha the end

[7rieM7]

How did you lube your cube?

[CubeFish1524]

i have a problem. I studied all of the F2L algs, but Im still slow. I get 30 secs, with a 24 sec pb. I think that intuitive is faster because you know what you are doing, and u can turn the cube faster. Can u please make a video on you solving the cube using fridrich but intuitively? thnx

[kolraz]

algorithms are just the fastest way of doing the moves, it is still done in the same way as intuitive.

[rjmst20]

nice video... nice cube too.. but bro.. was the color of ur cube made of sticker or paint or whatsoever.. pls reply tnx

[dm47]

first of all great video. pretty much read my mind on what I was hoping for. just one question, what algorithm did you use at 5:42? Or was it just a... "pop out, separate, and solve" type of thing. i couldn't see because you went so fast. lol

[badmephisto]

lets see if i can do this from my head, it is, i think, holding the f2l case in the Back-Right position:

R' U R U2 y R U R' U R U' R

[dm47]

yep it works. thanks ^^

[theribikscuber]

what kind of cube(s) do you use/recommend?

[rmnastor]

DIY :)

[theribikscuber]

what type?

[rmnastor]

type C

[aziandrm21]

no, C is not a good choice D is the best

[GzsGuitar]

Jeez you are good at cubing, you get better every video lol but you explain it so well Nice vid Badmephisto

!`

[3nZoTheKing]

I really like one step stop vids.. I get to learn some f2l tricks. thanks

[rmnastor]

b,

can u do blind folded?

[badmephisto]

yes. not much into it though

[rmnastor]

is true that cubers who have success with blind folded are better cuber than those who don't?

[Halocuber]

no...

[guyxtc]

an important tip to learning your scanning better is to do it slow enough so you can scan and find a pair by the time you're finished a previous f2l corner with just muscle memory

[rmnastor]

badmephisto,

i bet u know harris chan, i'm just currious what can u say about his cubing? what cubing techniques is he using?

[rmnastor]

badmephisto,

i've seen ur canadian cubing vid and i was wondering who are u among the participants..

[badmephisto]

read the video description :)

[jOmskieee]

Badmephisto,

are you using pure intuitive or pure algorithm based F2L?

right now, i'm using pure intuitive.

but i'm planning to study some f2l algs.

can you like tell me what the most important f2l algs are?

so i know what i should really watch out for.

I average around 30 secs with my F2L

btw: been cubing for 1 and a half months now.

[JasonJRY]

stefan huber the austrian guy has a pretty good one step stop thought processes vid too. sum how the WAY you explain things in ur video is always so crisp clear =)

[rmnastor]

your so fast on solving the cross;

[Vulosity]

when you're tracking pairs, do you also track the pieces's orientation?

[badmephisto]

thats a good question. not always. I always have a good idea where the corner and edge are, but I dont always know how they are oriented. This can be checked much faster however, unlike where you had no idea, and have to actually find them first.

So... to answer, I kind of do a mix right now. I try do both obviously, but many times I'm only good enough to do positions. It depends.

good question.

[rmnastor]

Last 2 months ago i can't even do F2L now after learning F2L, 2 look OLL, 2 look PLL (thanks to badmephisto's videos) I am now averaging 1 min to 1.10 min; my fastest cube is 43 sec; I wonder what would be my time after learning the full OLL and PLL; for now I am trying to best my time on my F2L;

[TadoxTrivium]

"I guess for now your just stuck with me!" We all love you badmephisto.

[HoboSapien23]

besides learning new ways to do the f2l algs(i learned them by trial and error, so my ways r the slowest ever...) i also learned something else. i cant believe i havnt figured this out on my own..............

turning the top layer instead of a cube rotation for oll+pll.

[TadoxTrivium]

Ah, I am trying to do that but I cannot train my self to not do a cube rotation. for pll its hard, oll easy.

[kickinwing2112]

who cant resist the sune!

[coachcashmoney]

So before you start on a pair you take time to look around at which pair is better to solve first? Wow, that would take me more time but I guess that's how to get faster.

[badmephisto]

well, sort of. I dont actively look for other pairs, I usually just take what jumps out at me. Sometimes in the middle of solving a pair, and see something easier, I switch. Its a pretty chaotic process, and it all depends on the case, grip, and stuff like that. You should experiment, try to do different things, and reflect back on how you think they worked out. Next time you face a similar decision, try a different approach, reflect again. Back and forth always learning and trying.

[ChrisBrandariz]

thanks i just was about to ask you to give us a look ahead video thanks

[CrumpetWarrior]

Nvm, i'm dumb and didn't pay attention to the video. Sorry for the dumb question.

[CrumpetWarrior]

Currently i use intuitive f2l. Is it better to use the algorithms instead? I figure it would be cause you can take your eyes off the the pair you are inserting and look ahead better, but is that true?

[haukzi]

If you learn your f2l algorithms visually, then eventually they will eventually be intuitive.

It's best to start out slow and look ahead for the best/shortest case and also learn every case and know how it affects other pieces (maybe not know it but, you'll see how it will affect others)

[enigmatp]

can't resist the sune. great video, always helpful.

[AQ93habs]

you are so fast!!! if you are using your type d cube, then I am SO BAD with my type d!!!

[flee135]

haha, I get accidental x-cross sometimes. Sometimes my sub-20 solves turn into sup-20 because I'm looking for the last pair that's actually solved. :P

[reghrhre]

excellent on the tutorial this should help me out when doing F2l

[donbaan821]

Sweet scrambleing

[boiswatching]

your voice kinda changed :P your videos of the best, your thought process videos are really great

[shamah02]

This is a very nice video:) Though I think that if you look ahead for F2L pairs during cross, it could minimize a lot of the guessing going on in your F2L but you may do that already. You were probably just focusing on F2L, though I think that the time between cross and F2L is very important.

[badmephisto]

you are correct. I do that in normal solves as much as possible, but i was talking while making cross in multiple occasions there, so that distracted me. you are correct.

[shamah02]

yea... your next video could be a thought process of cross to F2L time reduction:) I would make one but I am not fast yet. I do think that I have a good understanding of advanced cubing concepts though...

[badmephisto]

no i already have something else in mind :p

[shamah02]

what is it?