Gyakuhamni katatetori kotegaeshi - also very often used in aikido and aiki jujutsu. it works splendid and can be done in many different ways, also as a aihamni technic. Can also be done without forcing the partner to make a brekfall. Sometimes instead of pressing his wrist with the hands, you use a sword.
THIS TECHNIQUE SHOWN HERE IS NOT PURE HAP KI DO..'CAUSE SPENDS SO MUCH ENERGY AND SPEED TURNING THE ARM THAT SUPPORTS THE LOCK....THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE SAYING THAT THEY KNOW WHILE WHAT THEY KNOW IS TO LITTLE.
Locks do work if you know what you're doing. A lot of wanna bee's talk shit because they don't know what their doing so they constantly down other arts. While stationed in Korea I saw plenty a [usually white] American meat head get their ass kick by some scrawny Korean guy who knew Hapkido using kicks to the balls along with locks to end the fight.
@1Blkkato Our O-sensei Phil Milner was a Judo man when he was stationed out in Korea during the Korean war in the 50's. He saw Hapkido/Korean Ju Jitsu whilst he was out there and spent the rest of his life learning Ju Jitsu. Was phenomenal to end up with. Although he was bad enough I hear when he only knew Judo! But to end up with he Had this under his belt, along with Karate and Atemi
None of this shit works in real street fighting, i suggest you read up on Geoff Thompsons work on what works and what doesnt. This is about as useless as flying armlocks!
@3plus1equals5 Me experience? In my day I was in a few scuffles nothing glamorous, and I have witnessed a few scuffles as well... This kind of stuff is best left to kungfu/karate movies because in the real arena the pavement arena is has no place... Like I said, read up on my good friend Geoff Thompson, his autobiography "Watch my back* and *Dead or Alive* and has a host of other good books!!!
@basedeal The simple locks work quite well if you can get your opponent to commit. After you have them subdued with a simple lock you can implement fancier manuevers to ensure their immobility. But I agree that this particular manuever is a bit far fetched.
@ogonga94 Having been to many dojangs in Korea I can tell you that is not a hardwood floor, they have a very soft mat floor that is made to look like hardwood.
@tfoucha Yeah and the floors are sprung aswell. I've trained on hardwood and you can't survive many throws and walk out in one piece. U can hear the sound of mats being hit not hardwood, makes a completely different noise, much higher, & u couldn't slap it like that without ruining your hand!
if he's grabbing the wrist like that, then teaching students to step into the opponents other hand without striking is just irresponsible. They're grabbing one wrist to smack you with the other, so you need to strike before anything, i don't care hw fast you are. If a guy comes up to you, hes already decided to grab and hit you, but you only have a second after the wrist grab to realise, you need to strike to buy time
This is an offensive variation of an Aikido kote gaeshi... I can assure you, they work just fine if done properly. If not done properly, it either will "not work" ... or you can snap ligaments.
I once did a shiho nage wrong by not allowing the person to take their fall... almost tore the guy's arm out of it's socket... I stopped the moment I felt the wrong sort of resistance... but I think it still tore something. You can do permanent damage if you don't know what you're doing.
Valiant is correct. The flipping takes the pressure off the wrist to prevent injury so that you can practice it at higher level of speed and pressure. If properly applied even with the flip out your wrist will still hurt. I rather my wrist just hurt instead of being broken or dislocated. On the street its not meant to be a throw..Thats the big misconception. Its meant to be a break or dislocation.
@126STRNGNFIT Yeah even if it breaks or dislocates you will still disrupt their balance and more than likely put their head into the ground thus being a throw, because the body automatically moves out of a pain zone which is the intent. That's Ju Jitsu!
@126STRNGNFIT if you want ot make it safer push the fingers towards the attacker.. this is also powerful but less dangerous. and is great for training
Actually, people don't flip by themselves. When, you twist the arm along with the downward motion, what you are doing is setting your opponent off balance. And since once he is out of his own control, the only place controllable is his wrist (which you are controlling). So, wherever and however his wrist bends, flips and goes, he goes the same way with a similar motion. So actually you are making your opponent flip without breaking a sweat.
@MynameisAbhaySoni Who said that they were flipping themselves. The breakfall technique is the method used to take the pressure off of the joint thats being locked. To avoid injury. I never said they flip themselves. So of course when the wrist is being turned the opponent will be off balanced. Thats the whole point of jointlocking. If the practioner does not use proper falling technique they will most certainly get injured.
@MynameisAbhaySo I said once before in order to practice at higher levels you must learn proper falling technique. In 17 yrs of law enforcement and having applied countless joint locks on violent criminals, NOT ONE of them has ever flipped or did a breakfall, they instead sufferd severe injuries(wrist,thumbs,elbows)as result of joint locking techniques,and NOT knowing how to fall or go with the energy being applied to the joint.Thats the difference between the street and Dojo.
@illplaywithfire THAT'S EXACTLY WHY i hate this "martial fashion" to put techniques on videos. You and your seemings are just monkeys trying techniques without wanting a teacher (=experienced people in what happens before and after the technique) because you just wish to be the re-incarnation of a mixed Schwarzennegger and Hatsumi style monster. You first have to learn RESPECT then to ENDURE the technique on yourself and IF ONE DAY you need to break a weaponried fighter's hand, THEN & ONLY do it
I agree. But if this is the system you train in (as it is mine), it's handy to see this and review the technique as demonstrated by the creator of the system itself.
why do most traditional martial arts do they put stupid roll and flips in off a simple wrist lock,do that to any one on the street which this is made for self defense i just wouldnt happen your attacker wouldnt by no means doing a flip on to his back.
The "flip" is actually a counter. If you don't do the flip the wrist breaks. "On the street" the wrist breaks; in practice you just roll with it. I admit that in some martial arts the flips are done to the point ...of a weak wrist lock, for example, that it just doesn't work in a real situation, at least not that I imagine. Your point is a good one however in this tech. the flips gotta be done or the wrist will break.
@01MMA As in Judo and MMA, the fall is to assist you partner, the better you fall, the more throws he can do, thus becoming a better fighter, its vice versa to.
There are not small joint locks allowed in MMA, but you see them in BJJ all the time.You never heard of the goose neck?? Standard wristlock for all bouncer and cops.
Well cpxjds07....the problem with your hypothesis is that it doesn't take 3 seconds... How about a 10th of a second especially when you are giving him your hand... Why? How could that be? (because he's firing a strike at your head and you go to block it...if you don't block, u get struck....)
its really not that hard to do and it is very fast, especially when the other person is punching you and you use it as a counter. Most MMA guys never train in a style that has techniques like this so that's why you never see it, but alot of different styles from Japan and Korea to Southeast Asia have this technique.
The aikido/hapkido/jujutsu wristlock stuff DOES work if you set them up with strikes like this guy does. You'll never be able to pull a punch out of the air like you see in other vids. Most of the stuff on youtube is either flashy demo stuff or the beginner versions of the techniques that simply teach how the lock works.
I recall seeing an interview with a guy who was in the IFL talking about how he used a wrist lock like this on some hoodlum in a Denny's. I rather doubt he would have made the guy flip in the air like in this vid, though.
@SuperCucko EXACTLY hats why people don't think hkd or aikido works, they don't see the constant striking during the technique. I know this is hkd, but as ueshiba said 'aikido is 90% atemi'
@SuperCucko There are some people who are so in tune with the human body and have spent so much time applying technique that they can catch a punch in mid air. The problem is it takes half a life time to be that good in Aikido/Hapkido/Jujutsu. Just not practical for most of us to use those techniques. The problem is that like "faith" healers in western culture there are "chi manipulating masters" who put on fake ass video and demos that take credibility from the aforementioned forms. IMO
@SuperCucko It's not about pulling a punch out of the air, you parry the attacking arm and follow it with a c grip, as he tries to disengage the c grip gets stuck at the hand as it's wider than the wrist. It is hard to grab locks, but u make them overreach and overbalance by not being there to take it. It's very different to comp sparring punches where they test each other out not allowing balance to go too far out. Ur right this stuff works if done properly. A lot don't do it properly though.
@properjujitsu You are correct it is possible to trap a commited strike and move into any variety of combinations of technique this is what the highest levels of Akido, Hapkido, Akijuijustu, and juijutsu teach. I have trained in Akijutsu, also Kenpo Karate and traping the wrist in the manner you described is widely used in both disciplines.
@properjujitsu You are correct it is possible to trap a commited strike and move into any variety of combinations of technique this is what the highest levels of Aikido, Hapkido, Aikijuijustu, and juijutsu teach. I have trained in Aikijutsu, also Kenpo Karate and traping the wrist in the manner you described is widely used in both disciplines.
i did it to a friend who was angry and drunk and wanted to stab his brother out of rage. Sibling rivalry i guess. He was surprised... He landed badly his elbow hitting the kitchen table.
its a variation of a popular sparing technique called "sticky hands" how ever it can also be used ina life situation (someone tries to strike you and u use a sliding block)
Damn, I can hardly sit seiza on hardwood and this dude is doing breakfalls on it. That is real technique there and that is a real man.
fakeyf9 2 weeks ago
Gosh that floor looks hard,
fx02zbn 3 weeks ago
Gyakuhamni katatetori kotegaeshi - also very often used in aikido and aiki jujutsu. it works splendid and can be done in many different ways, also as a aihamni technic. Can also be done without forcing the partner to make a brekfall. Sometimes instead of pressing his wrist with the hands, you use a sword.
mickparly 1 month ago
Nice, I like that the guy takes the guard to do the throw rather than relaying on a grab scenario
TarranNorthernBunkai 1 month ago
works well when your opponent is not defending.
furiousmat 2 months ago
THIS TECHNIQUE SHOWN HERE IS NOT PURE HAP KI DO..'CAUSE SPENDS SO MUCH ENERGY AND SPEED TURNING THE ARM THAT SUPPORTS THE LOCK....THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE SAYING THAT THEY KNOW WHILE WHAT THEY KNOW IS TO LITTLE.
mizomba 2 months ago
The slow motion sounds are hilarious.
IronKingLeo 4 months ago
why is there no maatt?? they just fall on the floor like that?
Ny13Dan 4 months ago
@Ny13Dan hahaha
4 words... PERFECT BREAK FALL TECHNIQUE
2014402janus 4 months ago
@2014402janus well im a judoka myself and we have a pretty good break fall technique but it still hurts cant imagine getting droped on that
Ny13Dan 4 months ago
Locks do work if you know what you're doing. A lot of wanna bee's talk shit because they don't know what their doing so they constantly down other arts. While stationed in Korea I saw plenty a [usually white] American meat head get their ass kick by some scrawny Korean guy who knew Hapkido using kicks to the balls along with locks to end the fight.
1Blkkato 6 months ago
@1Blkkato Our O-sensei Phil Milner was a Judo man when he was stationed out in Korea during the Korean war in the 50's. He saw Hapkido/Korean Ju Jitsu whilst he was out there and spent the rest of his life learning Ju Jitsu. Was phenomenal to end up with. Although he was bad enough I hear when he only knew Judo! But to end up with he Had this under his belt, along with Karate and Atemi
TarranNorthernBunkai 1 month ago
gongkwon yusul, kote geishi, omote gyaku, nikajo
so many different names for the same technique lol
jamnin94 7 months ago
@jamnin94
Gongkwon Yusul is the name of the style.
Not the name of the wrist turning technique used.
largefirmmember 6 months ago
@largefirmmember realized that after. felt retarded. as u can tell my knowledge is more in japanese arts
jamnin94 6 months ago
hapkido purple belt move :)
Zamriasra 10 months ago
None of this shit works in real street fighting, i suggest you read up on Geoff Thompsons work on what works and what doesnt. This is about as useless as flying armlocks!
basedeal 11 months ago
@basedeal Actually it does work cause i watched my friend do it to a guy that was trying to fight him
XxcheeselouisexX 10 months ago
@basedeal You have that much experience hmmm?
3plus1equals5 10 months ago
@3plus1equals5 Me experience? In my day I was in a few scuffles nothing glamorous, and I have witnessed a few scuffles as well... This kind of stuff is best left to kungfu/karate movies because in the real arena the pavement arena is has no place... Like I said, read up on my good friend Geoff Thompson, his autobiography "Watch my back* and *Dead or Alive* and has a host of other good books!!!
basedeal 10 months ago
@basedeal The simple locks work quite well if you can get your opponent to commit. After you have them subdued with a simple lock you can implement fancier manuevers to ensure their immobility. But I agree that this particular manuever is a bit far fetched.
3plus1equals5 10 months ago
Wrist lock techniques rarely ever work
greenbay357 11 months ago
HOLY CRAP!!! He's flipping around like that on HARDWOOD FLOOR?!!!?!? Omg, I freaking LOVE mats!!!
ogonga94 1 year ago
@ogonga94 Having been to many dojangs in Korea I can tell you that is not a hardwood floor, they have a very soft mat floor that is made to look like hardwood.
tfoucha 1 year ago
@tfoucha That's pretty cool. I thought these people all had nerve damage or something, haha.
ogonga94 1 year ago
@tfoucha Yeah and the floors are sprung aswell. I've trained on hardwood and you can't survive many throws and walk out in one piece. U can hear the sound of mats being hit not hardwood, makes a completely different noise, much higher, & u couldn't slap it like that without ruining your hand!
properjujitsu 1 year ago
Sweet. Good frontal assault with nice finish. Love it!!
dkrz 1 year ago
Love that wide open guard from 14s - 17s leaving 3s to punch him in the head.
aokmike21 1 year ago
@aokmike21 its in slow motion...
mishabruml 1 year ago
if he's grabbing the wrist like that, then teaching students to step into the opponents other hand without striking is just irresponsible. They're grabbing one wrist to smack you with the other, so you need to strike before anything, i don't care hw fast you are. If a guy comes up to you, hes already decided to grab and hit you, but you only have a second after the wrist grab to realise, you need to strike to buy time
KurtCobain198666 1 year ago
This is an offensive variation of an Aikido kote gaeshi... I can assure you, they work just fine if done properly. If not done properly, it either will "not work" ... or you can snap ligaments.
I once did a shiho nage wrong by not allowing the person to take their fall... almost tore the guy's arm out of it's socket... I stopped the moment I felt the wrong sort of resistance... but I think it still tore something. You can do permanent damage if you don't know what you're doing.
dasgregorian 2 years ago 3
Valiant is correct. The flipping takes the pressure off the wrist to prevent injury so that you can practice it at higher level of speed and pressure. If properly applied even with the flip out your wrist will still hurt. I rather my wrist just hurt instead of being broken or dislocated. On the street its not meant to be a throw..Thats the big misconception. Its meant to be a break or dislocation.
126STRNGNFIT 2 years ago 28
Yes I used to not understand that because hollywood would make it look like a cool throw when in reality its not...
LuisTheWiser 2 years ago
@126STRNGNFIT Wow finally someone that gets it :D.
anonymousbecause 1 year ago
@126STRNGNFIT Yeah even if it breaks or dislocates you will still disrupt their balance and more than likely put their head into the ground thus being a throw, because the body automatically moves out of a pain zone which is the intent. That's Ju Jitsu!
properjujitsu 1 year ago
@properjujitsu now your talking symantics. Splitting hairs a bit arent you
126STRNGNFIT 11 months ago
@126STRNGNFIT 100% correct
blobby135 6 months ago
@126STRNGNFIT if you want ot make it safer push the fingers towards the attacker.. this is also powerful but less dangerous. and is great for training
TheRogueMonk 1 month ago
@126STRNGNFIT
Actually, people don't flip by themselves. When, you twist the arm along with the downward motion, what you are doing is setting your opponent off balance. And since once he is out of his own control, the only place controllable is his wrist (which you are controlling). So, wherever and however his wrist bends, flips and goes, he goes the same way with a similar motion. So actually you are making your opponent flip without breaking a sweat.
MynameisAbhaySoni 1 week ago
@MynameisAbhaySoni Who said that they were flipping themselves. The breakfall technique is the method used to take the pressure off of the joint thats being locked. To avoid injury. I never said they flip themselves. So of course when the wrist is being turned the opponent will be off balanced. Thats the whole point of jointlocking. If the practioner does not use proper falling technique they will most certainly get injured.
126STRNGNFIT 2 days ago
@MynameisAbhaySo I said once before in order to practice at higher levels you must learn proper falling technique. In 17 yrs of law enforcement and having applied countless joint locks on violent criminals, NOT ONE of them has ever flipped or did a breakfall, they instead sufferd severe injuries(wrist,thumbs,elbows)as result of joint locking techniques,and NOT knowing how to fall or go with the energy being applied to the joint.Thats the difference between the street and Dojo.
126STRNGNFIT 2 days ago
@126STRNGNFIT
Yeah, actually people in the gym teach you to go with the flow or get injured. I thought you were saying something different. My bad.
MynameisAbhaySoni 2 days ago
@illplaywithfire THAT'S EXACTLY WHY i hate this "martial fashion" to put techniques on videos. You and your seemings are just monkeys trying techniques without wanting a teacher (=experienced people in what happens before and after the technique) because you just wish to be the re-incarnation of a mixed Schwarzennegger and Hatsumi style monster. You first have to learn RESPECT then to ENDURE the technique on yourself and IF ONE DAY you need to break a weaponried fighter's hand, THEN & ONLY do it
cooldangeneva 2 years ago 2
I agree. But if this is the system you train in (as it is mine), it's handy to see this and review the technique as demonstrated by the creator of the system itself.
cattleprodanus 2 years ago
why do most traditional martial arts do they put stupid roll and flips in off a simple wrist lock,do that to any one on the street which this is made for self defense i just wouldnt happen your attacker wouldnt by no means doing a flip on to his back.
01MMA 2 years ago
The "flip" is actually a counter. If you don't do the flip the wrist breaks. "On the street" the wrist breaks; in practice you just roll with it. I admit that in some martial arts the flips are done to the point ...of a weak wrist lock, for example, that it just doesn't work in a real situation, at least not that I imagine. Your point is a good one however in this tech. the flips gotta be done or the wrist will break.
xXxValiant1xXx 2 years ago
@01MMA As in Judo and MMA, the fall is to assist you partner, the better you fall, the more throws he can do, thus becoming a better fighter, its vice versa to.
There are not small joint locks allowed in MMA, but you see them in BJJ all the time.You never heard of the goose neck?? Standard wristlock for all bouncer and cops.
SudoJudo1 1 year ago
that is hella cool!
GTFORDMAN 2 years ago
nope
wheeoui 2 years ago
Its also called Kotegeshi in Japaneese.
MooneShadow 2 years ago
holy shit
godadojo 2 years ago
thanks
channelin 3 years ago
hapkido is mad
rage1mma 3 years ago 4
thanks a lot...
rserak08 3 years ago
Very nice.... That's hardwood folks.... and he took a high fall! Pretty good
redmac02 3 years ago
in hapkido you learn how to take a fall
c8JJRAWR 3 years ago 5
Hell yeah.
spinhook888 2 years ago
Well cpxjds07....the problem with your hypothesis is that it doesn't take 3 seconds... How about a 10th of a second especially when you are giving him your hand... Why? How could that be? (because he's firing a strike at your head and you go to block it...if you don't block, u get struck....)
jadewillow 3 years ago
id like to see someone try to use this.
although it can work, i still find it hard to see it happening.
once i see it being done on a street fighter or Mma guy, illll shutup.
and if anyone do have a vid. please tell!
cpxjds07 3 years ago
its really not that hard to do and it is very fast, especially when the other person is punching you and you use it as a counter. Most MMA guys never train in a style that has techniques like this so that's why you never see it, but alot of different styles from Japan and Korea to Southeast Asia have this technique.
Seankwondo87 3 years ago
The aikido/hapkido/jujutsu wristlock stuff DOES work if you set them up with strikes like this guy does. You'll never be able to pull a punch out of the air like you see in other vids. Most of the stuff on youtube is either flashy demo stuff or the beginner versions of the techniques that simply teach how the lock works.
SuperCucko 3 years ago 21
I recall seeing an interview with a guy who was in the IFL talking about how he used a wrist lock like this on some hoodlum in a Denny's. I rather doubt he would have made the guy flip in the air like in this vid, though.
spinhook888 2 years ago
@SuperCucko EXACTLY hats why people don't think hkd or aikido works, they don't see the constant striking during the technique. I know this is hkd, but as ueshiba said 'aikido is 90% atemi'
KurtCobain198666 1 year ago
@SuperCucko There are some people who are so in tune with the human body and have spent so much time applying technique that they can catch a punch in mid air. The problem is it takes half a life time to be that good in Aikido/Hapkido/Jujutsu. Just not practical for most of us to use those techniques. The problem is that like "faith" healers in western culture there are "chi manipulating masters" who put on fake ass video and demos that take credibility from the aforementioned forms. IMO
ejflesher 1 year ago
@SuperCucko It's not about pulling a punch out of the air, you parry the attacking arm and follow it with a c grip, as he tries to disengage the c grip gets stuck at the hand as it's wider than the wrist. It is hard to grab locks, but u make them overreach and overbalance by not being there to take it. It's very different to comp sparring punches where they test each other out not allowing balance to go too far out. Ur right this stuff works if done properly. A lot don't do it properly though.
properjujitsu 1 year ago 2
@properjujitsu You are correct it is possible to trap a commited strike and move into any variety of combinations of technique this is what the highest levels of Akido, Hapkido, Akijuijustu, and juijutsu teach. I have trained in Akijutsu, also Kenpo Karate and traping the wrist in the manner you described is widely used in both disciplines.
issacjr01 1 year ago
@properjujitsu You are correct it is possible to trap a commited strike and move into any variety of combinations of technique this is what the highest levels of Aikido, Hapkido, Aikijuijustu, and juijutsu teach. I have trained in Aikijutsu, also Kenpo Karate and traping the wrist in the manner you described is widely used in both disciplines.
issacjr01 1 year ago
i did it to a friend who was angry and drunk and wanted to stab his brother out of rage. Sibling rivalry i guess. He was surprised... He landed badly his elbow hitting the kitchen table.
MooneShadow 2 years ago
thats pretty nice. but what is that guy going to do for those 3 seconds it takes to start the wrist throw?
cpxjds07 3 years ago
its a variation of a popular sparing technique called "sticky hands" how ever it can also be used ina life situation (someone tries to strike you and u use a sliding block)
eulaylia 3 years ago
Great instruction just wish it was in english. But done very well so no need. Thankyou.
peacemaker281 3 years ago
Nice video! I like very much your videos! Thank you for show us your technique.
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MaxDatvers 3 years ago