Civil Rights Activists Protest Prop 8 - Gay Marriage Ban

[amanda601]

marriage is not a right its a privilege. the government is run by the people through votes and election, not gay judges with personal agendas.

[Leavon]

Couldn't rebut my last ststement so you have to try an link slavery and homosexuality... Guess what you lost get over it.

[DesolationoftheDolls]

yes this protest was peaceful. that's like comparing osama bin ladin to gandhi.

[Liberalman35]

Yeah. These protesters are completely right. Why souldn't homosexuals be given the same rights as heterosexuals? Even if "marriage is between a man and a woman", then homosexuals should be given some sort of simaler union that gives them the same rights and means the same thing.

[boytano8]

They have the exact same rights in California as a married couple does save the title.

[MyITRcom]

We do not, not even close, I know I am gay.

[DesolationoftheDolls]

why?

[jwezel]

Rare moments in California. Liberal pussies defied!

[Liberalman35]

You are such an idiot. What do you have against homosexuals?

[idaman12345]

@jwezel actually it would be conservative terrorists winning

[Stevend2be]

Nice coverage of this event.

Sad prop. 8 went through.

I'm from Belgium, where gays can marry and adopt even children.

Anyhow : The love of gay-lesbian partners to each other is much more important then the fact that it is "recognised" by the society. It's not because society doesn't recognise you as a couple, that you aren't a couple.

For me a marrige is when 2 people love each other so much, that they are soulmates :

black, white, red, straight gay, etc...

And that's worth approving!

[nanlisa]

Marriage is between an man and a woman only: no ifs, ands, or buts about it! God created Adam and Eve: not Adam and Steve or Sarah and Eve! In the Book of Leviticus, it says that man shall not lie with mankind nor that woman shall lie with womankind.

God doesn't hate gays and lesbians: He just hates their lifestyle. Ask for God's forgiveness.

[Liberalman35]

In this case, the Bible is wrong. I'm a committed Christian, but I don't believe in every single thing the Bible says. Neither should you.

[boytano8]

Go back to church and save your non-creative adam and steve lines for someone who actually cares. God doesn't hate anything, not a lifestyle choice, anything. I voted yes on prop 8 but perhaps you should go back to the bible and read about compassion. Idiot

[idaman12345]

@nanlisa god is man made

not the other way around

leviticus also says shellfish eating is an abomination

so why dont you go try and ban that

[Leavon]

This is not a civil rights issue, get over it the will of the people of California was heard, try listening for once.

[Liberalman35]

If banning gay marriage is the will of the people, than the will of the people is for discrimination.

[Leavon]

You can have all the domestic partnerships you want, if the current parameters aren't encompassing enough then get them to make the changes. There is a seperation of church and state in that government should not be forced to have to adjust to the church and guess what that in return means that government can not dictate to the church, you can't have it boths ways. In this instance the people are right and personally I think every homosexual needs to face the fact that the people have spoken.

[Liberalman35]

The "people" spoke to have slavery and discriminate. Sometimes, the people are wrong.

[straightedgek10]

I am christian and I was raised to believe you marry for love, not religion or skin color or gender. Besides, people used to believe that slavery was okay, and interracial marriage was wrong and these were the words of the majority of people during those times. Majority isn't right. Times change.

Domestic parterships or civil unions are not the same. just as schools for the colored and schools for the whites weren't. Seperate is not equal.

[yourboyken]

ou cannot be a follower of Christ and be for Gay Marriage, that is Like saying that you are for the Federal Reserve but Support Ron Paul, You are wither Christian or for Gay Marriage Period.

[acordian]

You cannot be a follower of christ and discriminate against anyone, christ preached love and tolerance for all.

[yourboyken]

Homosexuality is prohibited in the bible so God said dont do it, i read and tell others to follow the bible. If telling people what Gods word is, is discriminating then dont blame me you would need to blame the bible.

[acordian]

I do blame the bible, however you are trying to spread it. Its not really your fault I'm guessing you were probably brought up that way. However, thats not an excuse to discriminate against people, and sorry but it is discrimination on your part. The bible is prejudice yet it takes no action on its own. You act upon that prejudice which is the definition of discrimination.

[yourboyken]

i am not dscriminating at all i am only warning people of the eternal death wich is hell. how am i discriminating by talking? in that case i think that you are discriminating agaisnt christians.

[acordian]

Ah but I never supported any anti-christian legislation. I took no action. The action is what defines discrimination.

[yourboyken]

i bet that you are partisapating in the over turning of prop 8 huh? well if you are then you are discriminating agaisnt christians

[acordian]

Ah but I am not. Because I am not taking the right away from christians to believe as they believe. If they think homosexuality is immoral than they don't have to be gay, or even marry gay couples in their church. Besides I doubt gays would want to marry in a church that thinks homosexuality is immoral anyway.

[yourboyken]

it is imoral, would you legalize child porn? would you allow dogs to have sex with humans? would you make it legal for people to walk around the city naked? there is a morality that you do not posses, i blame people that are gay for the immorality in America people like you are discusting and make me want to throw up. people like you should be thrown in jail for sticking your dick up another mans ass, its just not sanitary? let me ask you a question.... do you have your partner wipe before sex?

[acordian]

Ah so the bigotry comes out. hahaha. Child porn hurts the child. Not the same. A dog and human cannot have a deep meaningful relationship as there is no deep level of communication. Oh by the way, I'm straight. :P

[acordian]

Oh and gays are not the only ones having anal sex

[acordian]

If you think its immoral... don't do it.

[acordian]

The only reason you think over turning prop 8 is discrimination is because somewhere along the line you decided christians had the right to dictate others lives to them. Marriage isn't even christian is origin, its pagan actually. Christianity merely took it when they demonized paganism, along with a number of their holidays.

[yourboyken]

homosexuality hurts the person also, everyone knows that homosexuals cannot have a deep meaningfull relationship you are straight you should know such a thing, wow i just read your comments and i dont understand why you are using bigotry agaisnt christians when your own family is christian? you are so brainwashed.

[acordian]

Actually, I know a number of gay people, and they do have very deep, loving and meaningful relationships. Also, I am not using bigotry against christianity, I am saying you are a bigot, but not all christians are.

[acordian]

I am not the brainwashed here. :)

[acordian]

Theres no reason to be so hateful, Christ taught love, tolerance, and understanding. If god is love, why hate?

[yourboyken]

God is Love and in Gods word he said men should not have sex with other men, plus God is able to hate that is the misconception that people have is that God never gets mad or God cannot Hate but guess what he does hate people are just too lazy to read the bible they just think they can do anything they want without having any concern with the consiquences.

[acordian]

I studied the bible for two years, and my conclusion was actually that Jesus used the god of the old testament, Yahweh, as a symbol of love. However if that isn't true, Jesus said god is love, how can you argue that love in its purest form can hate anything? If that doesn't work for you than why not leave the judging to your god, you have obviously placed you entire faith in him, and from what I understand from your religion "god has a plan" why are you interfering.

[acordian]

If god does exist, its not your place to judge, its his.

If god does not exist, it is not your place to judge based on false pretenses.

[acordian]

You can't just go around forcing your life on everyone else, it leads to really bad places. Thats what the crusades, the inquisition, and to a lesser extent prop 8 were all about.

[acordian]

Also, no sect of christianity follows every single thing the bible teaches they all pick and choose. So how can you say this is right but another statement is false.

[acordian]

I have family members who are christian, its not the idea of Christianity that is the problem but the action they take against others. I am actually not even prejudice against christians. I believe if you want to be christian be christian I really don't care. However let me believe what I believe as well and don't push your beliefs on me. Live and let live, do not harm others, thats the only real morality through my eyes.

[acordian]

In fact if you want to believe that homosexuality is immoral, do so. Its okay, I really don't care, but do not push it on others or encourage others to do so.

[yourboyken]

yes you are the kind of person that supports the overturning of prop 8, to me that is discrimination agaisnt christians.

[acordian]

The christian life does not change in anyway.

[acordian]

I am not taking the rights/privileges away from christians, nor am I telling them what to believe or how to live their lives. There is no prejudice or discrimination here friend.

[acordian]

Actually, the theory that gov shouldn't interfere with churches is called freedom of religion. Separation of church in state is that in reverse.

[polidocproductions]

Unfortunately, there is NOT a separation between church and state. Notice the phrase "In God We Trust" has asserted itself on coins, bills, on Congressional walls and on the witness stand. This came about beginning with the Civil War but was then codified in 1956.

Many came and still come to America to escape persecution. Despite this common fact for so many, we have a difficult time coming to peace with the personal choices of others in our colorful and varied country.

[Zbubble19]

Last time I checked, no one's rights have been infringed. Gays and straights have the same rights: marriage between a man and a woman. To allow marriage between two members of the same sex would create separate rights for an individual group of people and would call for a redefinition of marriage. No one's rights have been infringed. What you are calling for is special privileges for a specific co-culture of American citizens.

[hotfhairy]

No On 8 time we fight it

[TarthStroodle]

Notice how they just attack Mormons, little old ladies, and people in church? They don't go after La Raza or the NAACP, even though those ethnic groups voted far in favor of 8.

Fight? They're little cowards, one and all.

Like to pretend they're engaged in the same struggle as the blacks. When's the last time the police hosed you down for protesting? No, you're the ones committing violence. You're little, wussy, suburban wimps who would be afraid to even drive through Oakland.

[estebanstevo930]

The true definition of matrimony is the sacred union between man & woman. No one is taking their right of joining in a relationship between man & man or vice versa, but marriage was not constituted on those terms. People should be content that they are able to have a relationship her in the US; it seems like more people are never satisfied and expect things to be shaped to their beliefs and ideas. You have the right to come up with something else that will make you official!

[polidocproductions]

At its best, marriage is a spiritual adventure between willing beings. More commonly, it is a bargain made in which women are obliged to follow the determination of their parent, who may or may not have a spiritual intention in creating the union. This is the truth of marriage.

From the old testament: Hebrews chapter 13 (NLT) 4 Give honor to marriage, and remain faithful to one another in marriage. God will surely judge people who are immoral and those who commit adultery.

[Liberalman35]

If marriage is between a man and a woman, and we can't bend the rules the slightest bit, then gays should be given a simaler union that mans basically the same thing.

[MyITRcom]

And they should also use separate drinking fountains and sit in the back of the bus.

[boytano8]

Lets be dramatic. Seriously, read the CA constitution. The rights are the same. My dad is gay and a lawyer. Go cry elsewhere

[Liberalman35]

I didn't say that. I'm just saying that if the conservative dumbasses won't stop saying, "Marriage is between a man and a woman", maybe a similer union that gives homosexuals the same rights as marriage would be a good compromise.

[polidocproductions]

Having been at the DNC and RNC conventions with the accompanying storm troopers, I was so impressed with the calm response from the San Francisco police while thousands of people marched definiteivly up the stairs of City Hall. Very cool.

[omiolo1]

if you want equal rights maybe you should read the law of the state of California, then you wouldn't have to continue to bankrupt California because they have to spend millions policing you!

"California affords domestic partnerships all of the same rights and responsibilities as marriages under state law (Cal. Fam. Code §297.5)"

[GriobhBan]

They are NOT equal! If a spouse dies the blood relative would have first stab at getting not only their children but also all they owned. The spouse of the one that died would be at a loss.

[polidocproductions]

I think creating a Constitutional Amendment is costly, on many levels. First off, the inclusion of 14 new words to define marriage as a relationship between a man and a woman is in contradiction to the family code you cited. Ergo, gauranteed new lawsuits and more expenses. Do you have any other concerns besides fiscal ones? Let's try to address them one at a time.

[dondebar]

Equality is either universal, or non-existent.