John Fitzen Makes a Sword for our Friend Raven

[cbrusharmy]

The forging of this project sword looks like it will make for an awesome FitzenKnives documentary. As both a fan of the books and channel/business, I'll admit I'm a bit excited.

[MASTERNCS]

SOrry but a grown ass man named RAVEN sounds like a total WTF. uh uhh back to the knives please.

[magnum1165]

"Its 14 books"..... "Oh Jesus" that made me lol

[sonottiny]

no offence but raven looks like a child molesting rapist who is never satisfied and thinks hes staying low key but is fucking far from it

[Tedkennedysswimcoach]

@sonottiny Damn that's funny as hell.

[odin5150]

MASTER BATE SWORDSMITH = JOHN JK JK MUCH LOVE JOHN YOUR GREAT BUD I CANT WAIT TO SEE THIS BEAUTY IN THE MAKING

[mememe123xyz]

Wheel of Time books... wooooo!

Heron on the blade = blademaster :P

[Schmidt54]

It ain't a sword, it is a sabre.

[zednotzee7]

@Schmidt54 A sabre is a sword.......

[Schmidt54]

@zednotzee7 A sword is a mainly 2handed edged weapon. The egde is ground on both sides (symmetric blade). The weapon you see in the video is a sabre, to be more exactly it resembles a falchion style sabre. A sabre is a mainly 1handed weapon with a single edge and a short false edge. It is asymmetric due to the curvature that comes with a sabre, though not all sabres are curved (like the Pallasch). Katanas ("samurai swords") are technically sabres too but are fenced with like a sword.

[zednotzee7]

@Schmidt54 Sorry but you are wrong. A sabre is a type of sword. What you describe is a medieval 2 handed sword like a claynore. Broadswords are used single-handed, but are still called swords (it's even in their name, lol). The Oxford English Dictionary gives the definition of a sword as " a weapon with a long blade for cutting or thrusting". Also don't forget about short swords (like the Gladius). They are used 1 handed, but are still called swords. And the Falchion is not a sabre

[zednotzee7]

@zednotzee7 The falchion can be classed as one of the sabre's ancestors maybe, but then so can many other blades. Can I ask where you got your information about what constitutes a sword ?

[Schmidt54]

@zednotzee7 I am referring to the Oakeshott types of sword, which come closest to any "official" definiton. By your definition, evberything above a Bowie knife is a sword, which is way too rough to define. There is a reason why there are weapon classes like Rapier and special kind of weapons like Pallasch, Smallsword or even more special sabre types like the sabre used by A. Hutton (Hutton Sabre).

I take back the falchion, I confused it with scimitar. Sorry no native speaker here.

[zednotzee7]

@Schmidt54 Ah, I think I can see where the confusion comes from now. the types only deals with medieval weapons. If you check the research and articles section of the Oakeshott institute's wbsite you will see that they also class scimitars as swords. And if they class those as swords then obviousely they will class the others as swords as well. Oh, and if a Bowie had a long enough blade, then it too could be classed as a sword in the same way some langsax are.

[zednotzee7]

@zednotzee7 I hope this clears things up. And don't worry about your English, you it's very good :)

[Schmidt54]

@zednotzee7 you are totally right, I was wrong, sorry. I went into that discussion with a thinking mistake on my side: I was thinking in German terms (sword = Schwert) and in German, that word is very specific about what kind of item it describes. Obviously the British terminology (which I highly respect btw, I am fencing by the book of Alfred Hutton) uses the word in a broader and more common fashion. In German, sword would refer to a Langschwert and hardly any other weapon.

[zednotzee7]

@Schmidt54 Oh, right. That explains it lol. No need to appologise though :) It was an interesting conversation (and in an odd way we were both right), plus I learned something ! I didn't know before that the German classification was any different to ours. That explains the grosse messer ( big knife I think it means ?) then. We would just have called it a 2-handed sword.

[Schmidt54]

@zednotzee7 I definetly learned something from you, also thank you, it was really a nice conversation. Germans get ridiculous when it comes to words and their definiton...

The Großes Messer ("big knife") (not to be confused with Langes Messer - "long knife") is according to "our" definition a (2-handed) sabre, but it's an "imported" weapon (Ottoman Empire?). The "native" German 2-handed sword is called "Zweihänder" or "Bidenhänder" ("two-hander" if that makes sense).

[Schmidt54]

@zednotzee7 Also the word "Messer" (knife) in German means basically an edged weapon (or tool) with an edge that is ground on one side only. The "Dolch" (dagger) is a "Messer" but ground on both edges. The word "Messer" refers only to "short" edges (i.e. shorter than a sword's or sabre's edge), so "Großes Messer" is an odd term for a weapon that long, yet it correctly refers to the way the edge is ground.

[zednotzee7]

@Schmidt54 Thanks for the information :)ow I can see why it's called that. In the German clssification system it really IS a (very, very ) big knife, lol. I'd heard of a Zweihander before, but Bidenhander was a new term for me. I shall make a note of it in case I come across it again, which I might, as I've finally found a translation of Hans Talhoffer's 15th century training manual. Should be an interesting read :)

[okkrom]

John looks like a really fun guy to hang out with!

I cant wait to see that blade!

[hehehehahahaful]

Thats a good ploy to get free stuff.... I think im going to use this....

[glockmeister26]

I think this interview would have been more enjoyable if those frickin machines werent on in the background. Half of your vids force us to turn the sound up to hear you guys talking but we have to endure the locomotive in the background. I do enjoy your vids overall I'm just saying.

[Sixguns4fighting]

I can't wait to see the videos on the process of the sword being made.

[lostcoz99]

i just started reading these books today!! how crazy

[gamlingcs]

as probably one of the few guys here whose read the whole series, im really excited to see Rand's blade

[ArtistBlade1972]

@gamlingcs Me too, although I didn't picture it to look like that exactly....

[gamlingcs]

@ArtistBlade1972 meh to each their own, I do recall the heron also being on the handle though. part of the reason they're branded into his hands. hope they dont forget that as they left it out of the proto

[avidlistener11991]

I want to be John Fitzen when I'm grown up! haha! We love you work John and crew. 

[Peter4101]

Got to love Kun-fu films.

[Wabaanimkii]

Who the hell is Jihn.

[UndefinedEntropy]

Raven loves the cock

[TheMercer187]

Windlass steelcrafts made one almost exactly like it. It wasn't Damascus though. Looking forward to seein the final product! Love your channel, keep it up man!

[MrNapalm138]

This is great Im happy for the publicity you are gaining John :-)

[ZEORANGER13]

Hey Raven, hopefully he finishes this project for you!

[ZEORANGER13]

11:24, John loves Charlie - LOL

[lookout11569]

i like how john is all about weapons but is prob the most humble man youll ever meet

[UltraViolence14]

rat tail tang....

[theonlyproblem]

@UltraViolence14 prop

[gamlingcs]

@UltraViolence14 yep just like so many other swords that have stood the test of time

[raindog951]

@UltraViolence14 Yes....I'm a bit concerned about that!

[zednotzee7]

@raindog951 I wouldn't be. It's how swords were made for over 1000 years. And if those swords could stand up to being used in dark age and medieval battles (and in fact right up to 19th and 20th century warfare) without snapping at the hilt, Then I don't think can be much wrong with such tangs lol.

[zednotzee7]

@zednotzee7 Ah..... I've just re-watched the vid. That is not a rat - tail tang. It is a stick-tang. So yes, that would be a bit worrying. However John Fitzen knows his business, and if the thing is to be swung about/used, I'm sure he will make it so it is safe to use for that purpose.

[raindog951]

@zednotzee7 Yes, I agree, John is a craftsman, and his blades will be as tough as nails, stronger, probably, than the average sword of Medieval times!

[JeffTheDude777]

Cool blade design. Like a Chinese Broad Sword and Japanese Katana got together, boned, and blammo. Herring Sword.

[rachet197]

@JeffTheDude777 you mean stabbed not boned

[JeffTheDude777]

@rachet197 Lol. you're right.

[gamlingcs]

@JeffTheDude777 its heron, like the bird. similar to a stork

[MrOutlawDave]

Do a step by step video of the sword making please that would be cool

[edarotag84]

Who's that Brigham Young looking bearded guy John?

[mojothemigo]

@edarotag84 Charlie. I think he is a smith (fire, anvil, hammer) as apposed to John being a knife maker (machine tool&die) and I think Charlie makes the damascus steel John works with for his own knives.

[jmce3]

Big John and Charlie collabo on a sword...AWESOME at it's best.

[DrWrongPaul]

@jmce3

psst ... glad I didn't type anything here ... LOL

[jmce3]

@DrWrongPaul HAHAHhaha.

[sasquatch4liffee]

John, can you see if Raven knows where the bowie knife in the movie Windtalkers came from? I'm really interested to know if it was a real knife or just an aluminum prop

[FantomShooter]

The attack of the "JIHN"....roflmao......awesome vid.....keep em coming :-)

[vampire847]

I may not be a lady but I'm for the shirtless forging of the Damascus!=P

[VengeanceIV]

Raven's kind of a steampunk...

[thenorthwoodsFH]

nice

[brandonc223]

Jihn

[JoaoIndiani]

the title is wrong.