Chopin-Godowsky: Etude No.1 (Op.10 No.1)

[CharmsJr94]

How cam you be better than someone technically if neither person misses a note? Hamelin does just as well as cziffra

[Jakelolx]

@CharmsJr94 Agreed

[Eztoez]

Cziffra > Hamelin by about 400 light years in terms of technical proficiency.

[MsGibbone]

Berezovsky plays it with more power, and in my opinion better

[Frozentoes1]

@MsGibbone And what makes you think that the quality of the recording isn't responsible for your perceived difference between both those pianists? Or is it simply that you want Berezovsky to play it with more power, so you rationalize this conclusion. Small minds et cetera.

[mazingerduke]

Me parece, por mucho que admire a Godowsky como pianista , que son estudios encaminados casi a su uso personal en vida,no a música de concierto. La belleza de los originales no tiene comparación, y como decía Proust " el verdadero descubrimiento no consiste en salir a buscar nuevas tierras, sino en aprender a ver la vieja tierra con nuevos ojos " Es que hay ya quien se ha cansado de los Estudios de Chopin?

[AlejandroSanAntonio]

@mazingerduke Yo creo que hicieron estudios sobre los estudios, porque bueno, me imagino que tambiénse puede trabajar la musculatura de los músculos, y no creo que ya se haya cansado de los estudios de Chopin, creo que tal vez quiso Godowsky hacer estudios sobre ellos, es como los que hacen variaciones sobre otros temas.

Aunque como tú dices, nadie le va a quitar lo hermoso a todos los estudios de Chopin. Ese es mi punto de vista, saludos!

[DarkLatias810]

he makes it look easy -___-"

[Reaper978]

@MuseDuCafe lol

[cowzilla8]

Man, as if the original Chopin etudes were hard enough......

[usuga1]

es mas dificil xD

[thecollective09]

@usuga1 Sin duda!

[truehaebaru]

is it harder or easier than the original?

[kettellive]

i like the original better, this just sounds reversed.

[AlfaAxel]

@kettellive :: YES! Seems as if Godowsky has missed the point of the Chopin Etude: Chopin actually sets up a chord over 4 octaves; Godowsky adds scales, which especially in mid-range piano-notes generates a fuzz of noise. Even if diatonic stuff can bear out as "chord-like" this is definitely not the case here. Hamelin is great, but the Godowsky "transcription" is not - not here at least :) Some other Godowsky "version" mixes two etudes, which is very funny, like "Marx Brother" films.

[kettellive]

@AlfaAxel yeah, i don't see what the big deal is by combining someone else's work, way harder to start the piece from scratch.

[chidlers99]

Hot gazoobies! Them keys is smoking hot!

[steveaulie]

Holy smoke!

[ann03071874]

This is truly staggering!

[thecollective10]

Amazing!

[mdeonx16]

He plays it just like it sounds on his CD recording: He really is the best pianist of the world.

[Liebromeistal]

Martha Argerich has better facility

[Haeronthegreat]

@Liebromeistal Nope. Hamelin is one of the greatest technicians of our time.

[Frozentoes1]

@Haeronthegreat

in addition to being one of the greatest pianists....musicians....poets­....artists....

[Frozentoes1]

@Liebromeistal

Perhaps you could draw our attention to specifics. I don't recall Argerich ever playing or recording Alkan or the Godowski/Chopin Etudes.

Please substantiate your comments. Otherwise, your words are vapid and meaningless.

[anonymousQ45]

the mistakes are trivial this is an outstanding example of bravura and virtuosity. and virtuosity is not about playing every single note its about complete mastery of the instrument. so are you going to tell me Hamelin doesnt have complete mastery? no one in the history of piano, not even your beloved Liszt or Alkan or Beethoven played everything w/o missing notes its human nature, even for super virtuosos like Hamelin

[SlyStallone208]

@anonymousQ45 I second this and add that it takes a master to push through the errors with such effortlessness that even someone who has a great knowledge of music (without the scores or familiarity with the song) will be unable to tell. This is Hamelin.

[sari4sari]

音程が、一番の曲と一緒なままアレンジ美しくされてあって素敵で­す。

[sari4sari]

音程が、一番の曲と一緒なままアレンジされてあって素敵です。

[anonymousQ45]

hamelin is the greatest

[mmpianist]

maybe his hands are getting weaker as he's getting older or is he playing safe?

[ericmedhurst]

do you know what you are talking about,  do you play at all and do you know how insanely difficult there pieces are ?

shame on you for your criticism

[mmpianist]

yes i play the piano. I used to perform at the Sydney Opera House as a solo pianist. take a look at my channel and my main video for an example. I'm well aware that Godowsky's arrangements of Chopin's Etudes are indeed very difficult - and I didn't criticise his performance - I just notice he plays different from how I heard him play this 10 years ago. and I know Hamelin is a great pianist - he plays all the most demanding piano music ever written for piano and it's all played very well

[ericmedhurst]

my apologies, I overreacted because there is such inane and uninformed commentary on this site. your points are well taken, and I am a pianist as well

[Ixezed]

He skips the descending octaves, but that doesn't alter the music at all, it's pure technicality. Hamelin knows what he's doing. A terrific performance by the way !

[Egide0]

he doesn't skip anything in his recording though.

[Ixezed]

Yeah I know, but recordings are tweaked today. He probably played this part 100 times and they dis a hell of a "montage"

[eribani]

@Ixezed that's only an ossia, so it doesn't really matter :)

[maxdesp]

@Ixezed The descending octaves are ossia's on the score actually

[OrangeSodaKing]

@Ixezed There a many ossias in this. Maybe he took one of those? I don't know, though...

[AmalgamOfMeat]

@Ixezed also terrific in the literal sense of the word.

[eribani]

@Ixezed the octaves are an ossia, so he doesn't really skip them. I prefer the sound of the octaves though :).

[MrMorriz1]

@Ixezed in the score the descending octaves are only an option

[Marcomedina]

NOOOOOO!!!!! Why is the god of piano cheating?!?!

[rvn10rvn17]

that's hamelin.. he always play the original version and always (so far) ignore the ossia version.. same thing to what he did to rachmaninoff concerto 3.. i would really love to hear him playing the ossia cadenza but he played the original one..

[maydengarNSBHS]

YAY

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