screw you, the burning times should have shown you that christianity has been hurting paganism and by the way we dont have have missionaries that will shove their religion down your throat after you ask them nicely to stop and we dont have one leader that tranlated the bible into his own words to make more money for the church and his religion, pagans have been affected way more by christianity than what pagans have affected christianity
Continued from below. I challange you to find me 1 pagan source that predates Christianity that talks about the death of a god or son of god. I can find you all sorts of pagan sources that date *AFTER* the death of Jesus that talk about that subject, but none that date before Him.
Not only that, but there are first hand, non-Biblical writtings of Jesus's death and resurection. You won't find that on any pagan writtings.
earliest fragment of any of the 4 gospels is papyrus 88, which is a fragment of mark and at the earliest could be from 63c.e. but that isn't the achedemic veiw it by an large considered to be from the late 70'sc.e.
That fragment you are talking about is also not the original. Which means its a copy of a manuscript from years earlier. Which, like most scholars agree, would put Mark at about 50 - 55 AD.
The only possible original would be the manuscript I am talking about, but it may just be a very early copy, and it dates to 66 - 68 AD.
I told you I would message you with information about what I am talking about if you are interested. 500 characters is not long enough to discuss it.
You have a very uneducated idea of what Christainity is all about. We don't believe in 3 beings that make up 1 God. If you think that is what Christians believe, then you are 100% wrong (but I bet you won't admit to it).
In teh Old Testament, God takes a physical human form on more than 1 occasion (the book of Daniel comes to mind). God *ALWAYS* had a visible form of Himself.
Christianity teaches that there is only 1 God with no partners, equals and He is not 3 in 1.
Anyone willing to kill people simply because they are homosexual, athiest, follow a different religion, pro-choice, etc is indeed a terrorist. ALL initiatory force is immoral, even if the Koran condones it.
EWW!!! cristian ways are blasphemous HAIL paganism; someone should kill cristians and do the same what they did to pagans during the dark ages on inquisitions!!! cristians are fool "the true god" heres what i think about god *poos on cross*
No such thing as a Triune God? Well you are partly right that throughout biblical Judaism, they did not understand fully about the Triune God. But even in the Old Testament this was revealed.
I watch all of debates on this topic and its pretty interesting. Because most people of religious affiliations other then Christianity will watch and debate. Not come out screaming and shouting but debate. They will learn all that they can from one another instead of trying to disprove one another at all cost. Anyways I m Muslim and have been studying the bible for over a year now and see many flaws.
Islam came 600 years after Christiantiy. Writings from the first two centuries state taht Jesus is God, and these people were martyred for their belief that Jesus Christ was I AM. Jesus said that He was "I AM." I trust Jesus for who He said He was, and I confess Jesus Christ as the name above all names.
HAHAHA...this video started pointing out the faults in Christianity, which I was ok with, but then in the end it turns into a proselytizing video for Islam? haha...funny, there are problems with all the Abrahamic religions, though Christianity definitely has the most.
the bible is inspired of God, as far as doctrines by men..they are by men but the bible is truth. Jesus is the source of the ressurection..which true christians believe, true christians do not believe in 3 in 1, true christians know the truth..and realize that 1 JOHN 5:19 "We know we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one"...and 2 Corithians 4:4 ...Satan is the temporary ruler of the world...so therefore these doctorines are contaminating the truth
...and this was one of the orginal translations..however the orginal hebrew scriptures in which it was translated from...Has YHWH in every placement of Lord...except when refering to Jesus Christ...he is Lord of all LOrds...and King of All Kings
Actually Isaiah 43:11, or the orginal hebrew text says YHWH or JHVH not LORD...Jehovah was replaced by Lord in the orginal translation but not in all scriptures...notice when talked about Jesus Christ there he is Lord, but God, The one True God is LORD.. But this is just a title...Jehovah is God's name. And he is Only...not 3...most christians have this confused..but not all...Exodus 6:3, Psalms 83:18, Isaiah 12:2, Judges 6:4...KING JAMES VERSION
why couldn't God change paul yea he was a bounty hunter for christians so why is it Jesus could not save him again? God is not so smallhe can only help the rightiouss thats why Jesus came for sinners to have a way out of their sin and a new life.
there was over 300 prophecys about a coming savior witch was failed to mention in Genesis it speeks of a seed of a women now women not having a seed of course is speaking of a virgin birth.
we are under a new covenent Jerimiah prophecyded about it and Jesus spoke about it you seem to forget "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" then after everyone left Jesus said to the adultress I don't condem you either he being the only that could have actualy stonned her. But wait forgivness is not that easy he said go and sin no more! ok the only laws that still hold to christians are the 10 commandments.
the islamic god looks at all the same... unless they don't pray in a specific language! so it is better to kill homosexuals, than not to?! i'll bet that the reason why christianity is more passive, is because they're smart enough to see that "god's law" is not all perfect, and is clearly immoral. because they still have a trace of intelligence that leads them to that logical conclusion.
The Romans, The Viking, The Buddhist, the Hindu all have/had religions where they believe in more Gods, comparing Christianity with them is not right friend...
yes but look, you just mentioned many Gods....according to christianity, there is God the father, God the son, and God the holy spirit.....God+God+God=3 Gods........they have disroted the basic monotheistic beliefs that Abraham brought
Genesis: (Let us make man in our image) (The Spirit hovered upon the water) (there can be forgiveness against profanities for the Son and The father but a Sin against the spirit cannot be forgiven)
The triune is not three separates but one supreme God.
Second, Many religions shared viewpoints including your own, the Vikings believed in Gotterdammerung, the Egyptions also along with the Romans believe in the afterlife.
God became flesh to bridge the gap of sin between and and himself.
Nobody knows what happened in the past, before you were born! Whatever people tell you or whatever you read is either right or wrong. You can only guess! Do not act upon such guesses, instead follow your own common sense. You know what is right and what is wrong because you are like everybody else! Think about that.. and you may find peace in just be-ing. No need to try to explain an afterlife.. Peace!
And how would you know that? I guess you just read or heard it from somewhere/someone.
*Even if* some person said such a thing, there is no way to find out if he/she was right or wrong. May be even lying or telling some kind of fictional story.
The trust you seem to have is not based upon fact but on fear, like most if not all religions.
So Christianity teaches you that you can pick and choose what you want from a scripture and call it a "new religion". Seems like a bunch of bull crap.
UNBELIEVER IN JESUS CHRIST IS CATEGORIZED AS ANTI-CHRIST;THINK ABOUT THIS FIRST.This is what the devil wants-everybody to become an anti-christ be an unbeliever.sorry thats what it is.You know Jesus is coming back to judge in the end,& WHO CAN JUDGE EXCEPT GOD-JESUS.
I agree very much that there is nothing like GOD coz' God is very powerful HE COULD DO EVERYTHING that you,me&even mohammed cannot comprehend,that's why God has the power to come down to our LEVEL so "we" could understand best that even a man(Jesus)as same time as God due to his power can be Holy like Jesus,just like follow the leader stuff.
well tell me one thing that ppl understood when Jesus Christ came that they did not understand before?
and a VERY important thing that ppl forget is the fact that only God himself knows when judgement day will come, but when Jesus Christ was asked he didnt know! how can he be the judge??
God did not let him know because he had to be sinless so he would have to tell the truth and if we knew then their would be no faithful people they would just stay in their sin and all convert and genuinely repent befor the great day of the Lord as it is called. Jesus said only the father knows.
ancient israelites were all pagans who practiced the canaanite el cult.
TheEvolver311 2 years ago
so when you want to slander against a religion that was around before christianity think of facts not opinions a$@^*le
jkcrazy69 3 years ago
screw you, the burning times should have shown you that christianity has been hurting paganism and by the way we dont have have missionaries that will shove their religion down your throat after you ask them nicely to stop and we dont have one leader that tranlated the bible into his own words to make more money for the church and his religion, pagans have been affected way more by christianity than what pagans have affected christianity
jkcrazy69 3 years ago
Continued from below. I challange you to find me 1 pagan source that predates Christianity that talks about the death of a god or son of god. I can find you all sorts of pagan sources that date *AFTER* the death of Jesus that talk about that subject, but none that date before Him.
Not only that, but there are first hand, non-Biblical writtings of Jesus's death and resurection. You won't find that on any pagan writtings.
truthforchrist 3 years ago
"Not only that, but there are first hand, non-Biblical writtings of Jesus's death and resurection"
BS, their is no first hand anything about jesus, none of the gospels were even written untill after 70c.e. 40+yrs after his death.
TheEvolver311 2 years ago
The only Gospel to be written after 70 AD was John. The rest range from 55 AD (Mark) to 66 (Luke).
We have a portion of the Gospel of Matthew that dates to 66 AD, which proves you wrong that none of them were written before 70 AD.
truthforchrist 2 years ago
bs no such fragements or documents exist
TheEvolver311 2 years ago
Well, it's my job to keep up on this stuff, seeing as I am a scholar of the Bible.
I can message you with more details if you are interested.
truthforchrist 2 years ago
bs
i check on things weekly in regards to biblical archeology etc.. no mention of anything.
so please go else where.
TheEvolver311 2 years ago
Then you lied. If you checked thing weekly, you would know what I am talking about.
Where and how do you ckeck things exactly? Can you read ancient Greek and Hebrew? What methods do you use for dating manuscripts?
These are things that a scholar has to know and do. I doubt you do any of them.
truthforchrist 2 years ago
earliest fragment of any of the 4 gospels is papyrus 88, which is a fragment of mark and at the earliest could be from 63c.e. but that isn't the achedemic veiw it by an large considered to be from the late 70'sc.e.
you give no evidence your a liar.
TheEvolver311 2 years ago
That fragment you are talking about is also not the original. Which means its a copy of a manuscript from years earlier. Which, like most scholars agree, would put Mark at about 50 - 55 AD.
The only possible original would be the manuscript I am talking about, but it may just be a very early copy, and it dates to 66 - 68 AD.
I told you I would message you with information about what I am talking about if you are interested. 500 characters is not long enough to discuss it.
truthforchrist 2 years ago
whatever you are full of BS
all you need to do is put the archeological ref. # and the catalog you found it in. about a line of text.
no evidence to support anything you've said out side of taking your word for it.
BS
TheEvolver311 2 years ago
I sent you the website in a message because I can't post it for some reason.
However, don't accuse me of haveing no proof when you don't have any yourself. We call that a double standard.
I owned you bad when it comes to the Mark fragment you mentioned. I noticed you couldn't respond to that.
You are in way over your head if you want to talk Biblical Scholarship with me.
truthforchrist 2 years ago
whatever im not reading any private emails
all you have to do is give a reference number, but all you have done is sent me special interest conjecture websites.
all it takes to prove your arguement is a reference #
if you don't have one then im sure you are simply making stuff up.
papyrus 88 was written in the 4th century C.E. it is lingustically dated to about 70c.e.
earliest dates for gospels text for year written
mark350c.e.
matthew150c.e.
luke175c.e.
john125c.e.
TheEvolver311 2 years ago
I did give you a name and number for the manuscript I am talking about. I'm glad you know how to read.
I'm done with you. it's clear that you have no intention of learning.
truthforchrist 2 years ago
right here put the ref# if you don't then you must be lying.
i don't even read the personal e-mails from this site.
so if you have proof put the ref# here.
all you have done is make excuses, if you don't have a ref# don't bother to answer back its a waist of time.
TheEvolver311 2 years ago
You have a very uneducated idea of what Christainity is all about. We don't believe in 3 beings that make up 1 God. If you think that is what Christians believe, then you are 100% wrong (but I bet you won't admit to it).
In teh Old Testament, God takes a physical human form on more than 1 occasion (the book of Daniel comes to mind). God *ALWAYS* had a visible form of Himself.
Christianity teaches that there is only 1 God with no partners, equals and He is not 3 in 1.
truthforchrist 3 years ago
Anyone willing to kill people simply because they are homosexual, athiest, follow a different religion, pro-choice, etc is indeed a terrorist. ALL initiatory force is immoral, even if the Koran condones it.
jaymthegenius 3 years ago
Any bigot who believes people should die because they follow a different religion or are homosexual deserves to get shot.
jaymthegenius 3 years ago
MURDER'S!
Shadow100004 3 years ago
EWW!!! cristian ways are blasphemous HAIL paganism; someone should kill cristians and do the same what they did to pagans during the dark ages on inquisitions!!! cristians are fool "the true god" heres what i think about god *poos on cross*
Shadow100004 3 years ago
No such thing as a Triune God? Well you are partly right that throughout biblical Judaism, they did not understand fully about the Triune God. But even in the Old Testament this was revealed.
Geneses 1:26, 3:22, 11:7, 18:1-16
Isaiah 6:1-4
Only when the Messiah came among humanity was the Triune God better understood. To understand this I suggest you start reading the Bible.
Remember, the Triune God is not 1+1+1=3
The correct understanding is
1 X 1 X 1 = 1 (ONE GOD)
Zarabbas 3 years ago
show me one verse in the bible were jesus said i am god worship me without any interpretations
p4lwaan 3 years ago
Jesus said
"I and my Father are One"
"Before Abraham, I AM"
"I AM the alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end"
JESUS CHRIST IS LORD.
tahu59 3 years ago 2
WRONG!!!
God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Not 1+1+1=3 but 3=1 or 1*1*1=1.
To say God cannot be in 3 forms also suggests that man cannnot have a soul, body and spirit.
Why limit God so much by saying he cannot be this or that?
tahu59 3 years ago
I watch all of debates on this topic and its pretty interesting. Because most people of religious affiliations other then Christianity will watch and debate. Not come out screaming and shouting but debate. They will learn all that they can from one another instead of trying to disprove one another at all cost. Anyways I m Muslim and have been studying the bible for over a year now and see many flaws.
Hussein19891 4 years ago
Islam came 600 years after Christiantiy. Writings from the first two centuries state taht Jesus is God, and these people were martyred for their belief that Jesus Christ was I AM. Jesus said that He was "I AM." I trust Jesus for who He said He was, and I confess Jesus Christ as the name above all names.
EvertonFan28 4 years ago
HAHAHA...this video started pointing out the faults in Christianity, which I was ok with, but then in the end it turns into a proselytizing video for Islam? haha...funny, there are problems with all the Abrahamic religions, though Christianity definitely has the most.
Genocyde0 4 years ago
the bible is inspired of God, as far as doctrines by men..they are by men but the bible is truth. Jesus is the source of the ressurection..which true christians believe, true christians do not believe in 3 in 1, true christians know the truth..and realize that 1 JOHN 5:19 "We know we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one"...and 2 Corithians 4:4 ...Satan is the temporary ruler of the world...so therefore these doctorines are contaminating the truth
willhedoright 4 years ago
...and this was one of the orginal translations..however the orginal hebrew scriptures in which it was translated from...Has YHWH in every placement of Lord...except when refering to Jesus Christ...he is Lord of all LOrds...and King of All Kings
willhedoright 4 years ago
Actually Isaiah 43:11, or the orginal hebrew text says YHWH or JHVH not LORD...Jehovah was replaced by Lord in the orginal translation but not in all scriptures...notice when talked about Jesus Christ there he is Lord, but God, The one True God is LORD.. But this is just a title...Jehovah is God's name. And he is Only...not 3...most christians have this confused..but not all...Exodus 6:3, Psalms 83:18, Isaiah 12:2, Judges 6:4...KING JAMES VERSION
willhedoright 4 years ago
Why do people bash Christianity? Is it because people are bashing Islam?
ww2fan39 4 years ago
ww2fan39,
people bash islam way more than they bash christianity unfortunately.
Wierdgirl5834 4 years ago
why couldn't God change paul yea he was a bounty hunter for christians so why is it Jesus could not save him again? God is not so smallhe can only help the rightiouss thats why Jesus came for sinners to have a way out of their sin and a new life.
james48890743 4 years ago
there was over 300 prophecys about a coming savior witch was failed to mention in Genesis it speeks of a seed of a women now women not having a seed of course is speaking of a virgin birth.
james48890743 4 years ago
we are under a new covenent Jerimiah prophecyded about it and Jesus spoke about it you seem to forget "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" then after everyone left Jesus said to the adultress I don't condem you either he being the only that could have actualy stonned her. But wait forgivness is not that easy he said go and sin no more! ok the only laws that still hold to christians are the 10 commandments.
james48890743 4 years ago
the islamic god looks at all the same... unless they don't pray in a specific language! so it is better to kill homosexuals, than not to?! i'll bet that the reason why christianity is more passive, is because they're smart enough to see that "god's law" is not all perfect, and is clearly immoral. because they still have a trace of intelligence that leads them to that logical conclusion.
marklethanarkle 4 years ago
The Romans, The Viking, The Buddhist, the Hindu all have/had religions where they believe in more Gods, comparing Christianity with them is not right friend...
loveproduct 4 years ago
yes but look, you just mentioned many Gods....according to christianity, there is God the father, God the son, and God the holy spirit.....God+God+God=3 Gods........they have disroted the basic monotheistic beliefs that Abraham brought
sakebloom 4 years ago
Genesis: (Let us make man in our image) (The Spirit hovered upon the water) (there can be forgiveness against profanities for the Son and The father but a Sin against the spirit cannot be forgiven)
The triune is not three separates but one supreme God.
Second, Many religions shared viewpoints including your own, the Vikings believed in Gotterdammerung, the Egyptions also along with the Romans believe in the afterlife.
God became flesh to bridge the gap of sin between and and himself.
Sliepnir2006 4 years ago
Nobody knows what happened in the past, before you were born! Whatever people tell you or whatever you read is either right or wrong. You can only guess! Do not act upon such guesses, instead follow your own common sense. You know what is right and what is wrong because you are like everybody else! Think about that.. and you may find peace in just be-ing. No need to try to explain an afterlife.. Peace!
bierdopjeee 5 years ago
actualy no Jesus said I am the truth you may trust his words.
james48890743 4 years ago
And how would you know that? I guess you just read or heard it from somewhere/someone.
*Even if* some person said such a thing, there is no way to find out if he/she was right or wrong. May be even lying or telling some kind of fictional story.
The trust you seem to have is not based upon fact but on fear, like most if not all religions.
bierdopjeee 4 years ago
Lovley....keep fighting the good fight man....
Reverna 5 years ago
thats not the belief of Christianity you Islamic Terrorist pig!
BigTimer3 5 years ago
denial is a huge weapon you christians possess.
sakebloom 5 years ago
Ditto
desiTmac91 4 years ago
Did Christians just throw out the health laws or what...because then it seems more like they are selfish themselves!
JacobR248 3 years ago
thats one of the thing xristianity teaches
Shadow100004 3 years ago
So Christianity teaches you that you can pick and choose what you want from a scripture and call it a "new religion". Seems like a bunch of bull crap.
JacobR248 3 years ago
yes, in Mark Jesus repudiated the laws of Kosher food, which was a blasphemy unto G-d.
jaymthegenius 3 years ago
Why so emotional, that's a good way to respond!
thinknact 4 years ago
uhh....terrorists? Now who were the ones that massacered those that weren't Christians? And what religion were the Nazi's?
desiTmac91 4 years ago
UNBELIEVER IN JESUS CHRIST IS CATEGORIZED AS ANTI-CHRIST;THINK ABOUT THIS FIRST.This is what the devil wants-everybody to become an anti-christ be an unbeliever.sorry thats what it is.You know Jesus is coming back to judge in the end,& WHO CAN JUDGE EXCEPT GOD-JESUS.
mgmikeuk04 5 years ago
The Christians have sunk into idolatry, worshiping the Prophet Jesus, a
good and honorable man, as the Divine.
The devil wants you to commit blastphemy!
How can you say a Jew, Jesus Christ, is your God?
God is not a Jew, God is not a Human, nor did he come in a human form.
There is nothing like God.
CoockedCrack 5 years ago
I agree very much that there is nothing like GOD coz' God is very powerful HE COULD DO EVERYTHING that you,me&even mohammed cannot comprehend,that's why God has the power to come down to our LEVEL so "we" could understand best that even a man(Jesus)as same time as God due to his power can be Holy like Jesus,just like follow the leader stuff.
mgmikeuk04 5 years ago
well tell me one thing that ppl understood when Jesus Christ came that they did not understand before?
and a VERY important thing that ppl forget is the fact that only God himself knows when judgement day will come, but when Jesus Christ was asked he didnt know! how can he be the judge??
kornkluivert 4 years ago
God did not let him know because he had to be sinless so he would have to tell the truth and if we knew then their would be no faithful people they would just stay in their sin and all convert and genuinely repent befor the great day of the Lord as it is called. Jesus said only the father knows.
james48890743 4 years ago
you find the nicest music to go with the rudest videos lol
dorak101 5 years ago
what's so rude about that?. have i offended you in some way?
sakebloom 5 years ago
thanx for exposing the truth about christianity. that Jesus IS NOT GOD...but a prophet. that idea infact was adopted from paganism
sunniandproud 5 years ago
again, thank you :)
sakebloom 5 years ago