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  • I have real respect for Baremboim, but I'm not a huge fan of what he does here rhythmically. Also, I'm amazed to see some wrong notes, done very deliberately (and even repeated!). Starting at 1:11, the LH has four A-B clusters. Both times, Baremboim plays the last one two octaves too high. If you look at the score, you see it looks like he just didn't notice the switch back to bass clef in the LH. What he plays is actually harder than what's written! :)

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  • Excelente...

  • I love it.. it is so smooth first and then kind of magical...

  • Professor Daniel Barenboim God bless

  • Unfortunatelly with a great deal of "fausse notes"

  • i prefer Michelangeli's

  • Good for you.

  • Of this I must say I appreciated Langs version more

  • ??? Of you I must say you probably know nothing about music.

  • @EdiEllerymissing Why not? It's also a matter of taste.. I think what I heard from lang lang was more kind of free and like floating over the mountains.. And this is a bit more mysterious.. maybe a bit more like Debussy but I really like Lang Lang anyway.. Lang Langs version is not far from Zimermans either

  • Really, more like Debussy? I don't think so. But I won't discuss cause there's no way to convince the Lang Lang lovers that he really cant play occidental music in a decent manner. Is not matter of taste but about real interpretation of the score. Lang Lang don't do that. Whatever.

  • @EdiEllerymissing I said that this one is probably more like debussy but that I just like Lang Langs more "improvised" version... And you are really generalizing, Barenboim is one of my favorite, why does classical people have to be so proud and arrogant? Back in the old days people added notes in the pieces as they liked.. like Liszt is known for putting many thrills and stuff into the moonlight sonata.. Music is really much more than just the score

  • I agree with you, music is more than just the score, but it comes mostly from it. If the score is not necessary then, why the need to write the music? Just pass along by ear like in many other musical traditions and let them improvise about what they listen, like many folkloric music. That Liszt did it doesn't make it right, he was famous among his contemporaries by being a very disrespectful interpreter, but he was also a very refined composer and a very smart person (mostly in his old days).

  • @EdiEllerymissing But romantic music is based on the feelings and the outcome, which is why you probably heard about this "chopin-rubato" which he was known for, Chopin was also an improviser in a high level. When it comes to the artistic side it should'nt be as theoreticly correct as many think.. It's good to enjoy the piece as it was thought to be, but there is nothing wrong by creating your own version.. I know there are many rules of composition but the is the terminology and theory.

  • Chopin Rubato? Jajaja. Chopin let us precise instructions about what he wants us to play. According to my teacher, who was a judge of the Chopin Piano International competition, his rubato is already written in the score by his instructions. Is not about feeling and the outcome. You need to read about romanticism, cause you're very misinformed about the aesthetics of it. To create your version you need to start by a correct reading of the score and then try to interpret according to that.

  • @EdiEllerymissing The Rubato can and is often used above both accompaniment and a melody even when it's not even written. And I guess Lang Lang has played his pieces tons of times, and these pieces has been played a lot since they were written so why not improvise a bit through the "rubato and the structure"...

  • So you have been judge of the Chopin Piano International competition to? You know, I have more than 15 years studying music and I'll stay with my renowned teacher teachings. I can say, without any doubt, that it doesn't matter how many times Lang Lang have played this or any occidental music, he craps over them every time. Improvise when you're asked by the score to improvise, like in the classical concertos cadenzas or in XX century music, but do not play something is not in the score.

  • The rubato depends on the style and the composer. Chopin let specific instructions about his rubato. Brahms don't allow much rubato in his music, but Liszt and Schumann are a little bit more free to use rubato. It depends on the composer. You will never use the same rubato with Liszt than with Beethoven. I wonder if you even play any instrument. Interpretation is something very different to improvisation. They have nothing in common. Your very confused. You need to start to read right know.

  • @EdiEllerymissing I have never mentioned interpretation. And I know what your saying, But why are you so arrogant? The composers you so detailed talk about, were at least friendly to people and not as arrogant as you are, and why do you wanna be personally?

  • If you won't talk about interpretation then there's nothing to talk about here. You're just as arrogant like me, but you don't know a thing about music, so you feel offended by my comments. Have you ever read about any of those composers? Beethoven friendly? Chopin friendly? Bach friendly? You really know nothing about music don't you. I said, and I repeat, if you like Lang Lang that's your problem, but don't talk about things you don't know, cause you obviously don't know much about music.

  • You know, "create your own version" (in your words) is all about interpretation. If you didn't talk about interpretation, what are we talking about? It's just terminology, so excuse me if I talk as I been teach to talked about music. Please excuse me for know about music.

  • @EdiEllerymissing Don't excuse what you know, but excuse the way of generalizing and stating things about me which you don't know. And speak from yourself and not from your teachers. why does your communication have to come out in such a negative and hostile way? I never said anything about you? just that I liked Langs version?

  • So I say that if you like him it's fine by me. I trust my teacher because of her background, so I put her wise words as an example to answer your notions about rubato, cause I don't agree with your conception of rubato. You're the one who generalize by saying things like "chopin-rubato" and that the composers I mention were "friendly". I'm trying to be specific about the rubato, the score and interpretation. Sorry if I'm being agresive, that was not my intention.

  • But you obviously failed tremendously of not being "aggressive" its alright. I don't think all the composer were friendly or specifically social minded, but some of them were. and when I mentioned chopin-rubato I did'nt mean anything else than the rubato of chopin? If I understood anything wrong then its another deal.

    I think it can be good to be free in interpretation sometimes, so you can have all different inspirations. Like there are different pianists that has different views about music.

  • You know, sorry about my words of you. You're right, I was being mean.

  • @EdiEllerymissing I must admit that I have only been playing/studying classical for around 1½ year despite I've been playing for much longer. So I might not be as wise in this era as you are.. I used to hate classical because of all the terminology and "rules" But the classical music in it self is much more interesting and developing to play than pop/rock 4/4.. It really opened my eyes for it.

  • Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin, Liszt, Clara Schumann, Bach, Henselt, Hummel, Thalberg and many other composers and famous pianist were also very good improviser, but there's a whole world of difference about improvisation and composing a piece. It was said by Beethoven that he let us specific instructions in his scores, Bach complain a lot about his choir because they don't read the score as it's written, so as Chopin complain about Liszt. Forget that wrong idea about "improvising" in this music.

  • Besides, Debussy was very specific about what he wants. He let us a very specific instructions of how to play his music. I just don't like Lang Lang version cause he doesn't respect the score in many ways. Also, his sound is awful, very hammered, with no direction, etc. But again, whatever, if you like Lang Lang then listen to him. That's not my problem. Is your taste, like you say.

  • i enjoyed watching this interpretation but i prefer Michelangeli's. i don't get the same clarity of notes from Barenboim

  • lindo

  • Thank you for this great upload!

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