No, Shinn could. Shinn was not born with raw talent. He trained and trained until he knew Kira's every move. By the end, Kira just had Fukuda backing him, and a godmode mary sue machine. Shinn is realistic, his every slipping sanity a real consequence of war, and his training is not cheating, its what the REAL armed forces do. Kira in Destiny...if he did not have his SEED Mode, or so many guns, he would perish much earlier.
Arthur ordered the Tannhauser to fire before so you cant lay the blame on Gladys, in which you never seem to defend a woman character in GSD.
Defeating the AA and Freedom was a good strategy but that wasnt who they were supposedly going after in the statement that Durandal made before and in fact Athrun would bring up in few episodes.
Hey dude you need to stop drinking or put down that shit that youre smoking and look at the obvious truth
By means of your social status, I mean on how terrible the world is for you and how hard "people like you" have it, but in fact that you guys arent the only in the world that experience hardships throughout their life
I'm not throwing around my social status in this argument, you are throwing my (assumed by you) social status into this. I've not said anything about "how hard I have it". So, should I just add this to the long list of irrelevant and ineffective arguments you've presented me with?
Gladys usually does. Do you try to deny that Gladys was hesitant throughout the battle, even giving up an opportunity to blast it out of the sky from the get go, by giving them the chance to surrender?
You know, it is possible to fight multiple opponents at once.
if you're talking about the seed factor, it's basically when the pilot reaches his highest capabilities and becomes unstoppable. Like a beserker. And Kira only joins ZAFT at the very end of the series. He becomes a commander when Lacus becomes chairwoman.
@alex14andr Yeah, man, he did. Watch TV Movie #4 for Gundam Seed Destiny. Search the ending here on Youtube and check it out. It's key for the feature film in the makes.
well shit kira was in a hurry and there was like 20 Zaku's and like 10 goufs of course he would in the strike. the gai was almost beaten by one gouf tell kira in the freedom showed up plus did you not hear the guy say leading the attack on lacus when kira got the strike freedom he said something like 20 units gone in under two min then kira took out 3 ships. the fights arnt like the first gundam seed this time there all alone the whole time not like in seed where they had back up tell the fredom
well the strike wasnt fully distroyed wu was flying it tell he blew it up. well it want really his fault but the strike was still usible so kira could have used it but no freedom is my fav and it kicks ass
strike could be beaten by zaku warriors in GSD..if you watched the episode when kira will be given the srike freedon, he used the srike and was almost destroyed by zakus...the zakus are more equipped in GSD...
i noticed that this always happens to kira,,his gundam must be destroyed first before he'll be given a new one..like the strike..after it, freedom was his next gundam, after the freedom was destroyed,ZGMF-X20A Strike Freedom was next.
kira lost because he wasn't focused in his battle with shin..and he has no intention to fight him..his goal was to protect the archangel...thats why he was 50% to archangel and 50% to shin
When Kira was battling Shin, he completely left the Arcangel unguarded. If Captain Gladys had no reservations about attacking the Arcangel, it would have been completely destroyed. However she hesitated and the Arcangel escaped damaged.
Yes, they needed to get rid of the Freedom so they could sell new model kits with the Strike Freedom.
Yeah right get over yourself Weltall Gladys isnt in charge of the weaponry, that would be Arthur, when the AA actually fought back against the minerva, by no surprise the AA won what you. The only time the Minerva could ultimately win against the AA is when all the weapon system and if the ship was staying still is when they would be able to destroy the AA. You talking just like what happened between Kira and Shinn, since Kira wasnt trying to fight, that Shinn was able to defeat Kira
Firing the main gun was typically done by the captain. Like with the Lohengrinn on Archangel or the Tannhueser of the Minerva, in general, the captain gave the go ahead on the firing of those weapons. Seeing as positron cannons firing, especially in the atmosphere, was a big deal.
AA did win, however, without Mwu's intervention and OP Atkatsuki, AA would have lost. Minerva outmaneuvered it and took the shot with the main gun.
As illustrated very clearly that you need your eyes checked because Kira was more focused about the status of the AA then in the fight between him and shinn. SO get a life.
Bullshit if the eternal wasnt in the way then
the AA would have still won.
If firing the positron canon, the Tanhausser, was such a big deal to the minerva, then why do they use pretty much in all their fights.
You are just going on your feelings and not on the obvious facts.
I which to continue on it was the AA that made the decision not to fire its lohengrins, the minerva looked to not care anything about firing its positron canon on Earth.
Besides all that the minerva is shown to be incredibly weak without its Tanhausser, when the AA is still strong without its Lohengrins.
Yes, AA did opt not to use the Lohengrinn sometimes due to concern for the environment and contamination. OK, Minerva fired the Tanhuesser more than AA's Lohengrinn on Earth, point being? Doesn't change that Gladys normally gave the order.
Minerva was on the receiving end of ambushes constantly. Minerva held its own in many unfavorable battles. Even if we were to assume AA > Minerva, so what? What's the relevance to whether Gladys orders the shot or not?
No, the Minerva never held its own since it was the mobile suits that dealt with much of the enemies in the ambushes. Where's your point to whether Arthur wasn't able to order the shot that he seems to be able to do in past episodes.
Its MS were an integral role in its defense. However, Minerva itself was also integral in its own self defense. The two working in concert allowed it to survive those intense battles. To say the Minerva was not a major part in its own defense is just out there. Though I'm used to that from you.
Self defense my ass, since they were the one that was falling in the EA's ambush in order to get to where the minerva was going. It was Shinn and Athrun that was doing all the work and the minerva pretty much sat there taking all the glory.
the fact that the minerva never actually moved towards the enemy unless fighting one-on-one shows how pathetic they were since the AA in seed had to go up against multiple ships and mobile suits in order to reach alaska.
I'm sorry but the minerva didnt out maneuver the AA since they fired that shot right when charging at the AA. The AA could easily win if it choose to fire its logengrins.
Arthur has shown in the past that he can order the fire of the Tanhausser and was looking for a miracle in which the AA blew itself up
So Arthur was partially to blame for the AA escaping in which he didnt destroy the archangel before it got to the sea in the first. He had ample time to do so.
Actually, it did, seeing as, Minerva had a shot with the Tanhuesser that AA could not avoid. Fortunately for them, Mwu came and blocked it out of nowhere. Giving them the advantage and opportunity to blast Minerva. Without Mwu, AA was done there.
Arthur took charge and did it because he realized that waiting would prevent them from doing it, so he just went ahead and did it.
Arthur made a decision to supercede the captain as she was being indecisive.
Actually the only reason for the minerva to supposedly win that battle was because of the threat of the Eternal being hit and does not show that the Minerva could have won against the AA in equal condition in which made the Minerva weaker than the archangel and due to the fact that The AA had positron canons and just like the Minerva and the Minerva always had to use it in order to win a fight on its own.
did you not see kira try to get back to the arcangle but everytime he tryed to shinn would stop him by shotting in front of him and he looked when the explosion went off casue all his friends and his sister was on it. kira tryed a few times to get back to the angle and not only that before shinn even came into the fight kira was busy taking care of all the other mobal suits.think of thnigs this way if kira got to look at how the impales fights he would win but he wouldnt have to if he kill shinn
If escape was his goal, he failed at that, so Shinn beat him in that regard too. When the Arcangel was hit, he shouldn't have looked away, as I said, you don't look away from your opponent when you are in such an intense fight, for whatever the reason, that was undeniably a mistake on Kira's part. Kira encountered Shinn in the Impulse three times before this battle, so he did have the opportunity to see him in action. Kira did not take Shinn as seriously as he should have, therefore he lost.
well that still doesnt make shinn better than kira. if kira took shinn as seriously as he did Rau Le Creuset...shinn wouldve been dead in 15 seconds flat
he shouldve...it it benefit shinn, kira and the viewers...kira because he wouldnt have to deal with that little bastard, shinn wouldve had his sad pathetic life done with, and viewers because no one wants to put up with his emo ass anymore =D
Seeing as Kira is a skill-less hack, who's only salvation is the thick plot-shielding around his sorry, undeveloped character, complete with an incoherent world view that he forces onto others through Mobile Suit battles that he has no business being in, let alone dominating. Yes, it is a miracle that Shinn was not killed in this fight, but then again, they were probably trying to show that Kira can also be the bigger man and adding that to his ridiculous list of outstanding accomplishments. =D
Read yytejepo's post two below yours. Your argument is cut to ribbons. Your angle on him defending the Arcangel, where was he when they were getting owned by the Minerva? Kira was not even close to the Arcangel because he was engaged with the Impulse. When Kira watches the Arcangel explode, if you are stupid enough to look away from your opponent, whom you are having one of the most intense battles of your life with, for whatever reason, you are a fool and deserve to be impaled.
if kira was trying to kill shinn he could have easily but he wasnt. and because shinn knew that kira dosent go for the cockpit he took it to his advantage protecting everything else. also if you watched the episode Kira wasnt only focused on shinn the arcangle was taking hell fire and just barly made it to the ocean. and when he seen the huge explosen comeing from teh arcangle he tooked awway from shinn no focusing on him and whats when shinn took his chance on kira and when kira looked shinn 1
he didn´t even try? Why didn´t he just stand still in the air and let Shinn shoot him down? He tried to take shinn down make no mistake. When Kira tried to cut the impulse in half with his sword but Shinn avoided it would you still call that he didn´t try to kill Shinn. Yes Kira didn´t try to kill Shinn but he still tried to defeat him but couldn´t because he was overwhelmed. Simple as that. Shinn had studied the Freedom and took Kira by surprise. Kira lost fair and square.
In Destiny, Kira never aimed for the cocpit...
cwalkismylegend 1 year ago
i think Shinn can't solo with Kira, he just lucky and cheating
zzzMrQuangzzz 1 year ago
@zzzMrQuangzzz
No, Shinn could. Shinn was not born with raw talent. He trained and trained until he knew Kira's every move. By the end, Kira just had Fukuda backing him, and a godmode mary sue machine. Shinn is realistic, his every slipping sanity a real consequence of war, and his training is not cheating, its what the REAL armed forces do. Kira in Destiny...if he did not have his SEED Mode, or so many guns, he would perish much earlier.
DAsrada 1 year ago
WMG lame.
sinblesser 1 year ago
If firing the Tanhausser was the job of Gladys then the Minerva should have never been able to fire it in attempt to destroy the AA.
Also quit using your social status in today's world to make people agree with you or even to feel sorry for you.
the minerva just came into the fight against the archangel in which they always fire the Tanhauser first.
So quit LYING TO YOURSELF.
anonymous122912 3 years ago
Gladys was hesitant, however, Gladys never called off the mission either.
What are you even talking about? My "social status"?
A sound plan, try and eliminate a tough opponent as fast as possible is a good strategy.
Stop drinking.
Weltall8000 3 years ago
Arthur ordered the Tannhauser to fire before so you cant lay the blame on Gladys, in which you never seem to defend a woman character in GSD.
Defeating the AA and Freedom was a good strategy but that wasnt who they were supposedly going after in the statement that Durandal made before and in fact Athrun would bring up in few episodes.
Hey dude you need to stop drinking or put down that shit that youre smoking and look at the obvious truth
anonymous122912 3 years ago
By means of your social status, I mean on how terrible the world is for you and how hard "people like you" have it, but in fact that you guys arent the only in the world that experience hardships throughout their life
anonymous122912 3 years ago
I'm not throwing around my social status in this argument, you are throwing my (assumed by you) social status into this. I've not said anything about "how hard I have it". So, should I just add this to the long list of irrelevant and ineffective arguments you've presented me with?
Weltall8000 3 years ago
Gladys usually does. Do you try to deny that Gladys was hesitant throughout the battle, even giving up an opportunity to blast it out of the sky from the get go, by giving them the chance to surrender?
You know, it is possible to fight multiple opponents at once.
Anon, get a job.
Weltall8000 3 years ago
What's the point of seed, and why is Kira with Zaft?
IchigoandSenna 3 years ago
if you're talking about the seed factor, it's basically when the pilot reaches his highest capabilities and becomes unstoppable. Like a beserker. And Kira only joins ZAFT at the very end of the series. He becomes a commander when Lacus becomes chairwoman.
indian217 3 years ago 5
@indian217 wasteman!!! HE didn't joing ZAFT man
alex14andr 1 year ago
@alex14andr Yeah, man, he did. Watch TV Movie #4 for Gundam Seed Destiny. Search the ending here on Youtube and check it out. It's key for the feature film in the makes.
indian217 1 year ago
Shinn Rocks! Destiny all through the way!
genokaihl008 3 years ago
over the end off the fit was at 1:15 alll that went down his that he got help and he was back in the game we we that that =_= Weltall8000
siosword 3 years ago
well shit kira was in a hurry and there was like 20 Zaku's and like 10 goufs of course he would in the strike. the gai was almost beaten by one gouf tell kira in the freedom showed up plus did you not hear the guy say leading the attack on lacus when kira got the strike freedom he said something like 20 units gone in under two min then kira took out 3 ships. the fights arnt like the first gundam seed this time there all alone the whole time not like in seed where they had back up tell the fredom
xXRairuXx 3 years ago
well the strike wasnt fully distroyed wu was flying it tell he blew it up. well it want really his fault but the strike was still usible so kira could have used it but no freedom is my fav and it kicks ass
xXRairuXx 3 years ago
Orb rebuilt the Strike, but I'm sure it was not in any kind of condition to pilot when Orb salvaged it's remains after the Aegis exploded on it.
Weltall8000 3 years ago
strike could be beaten by zaku warriors in GSD..if you watched the episode when kira will be given the srike freedon, he used the srike and was almost destroyed by zakus...the zakus are more equipped in GSD...
valkemere999 3 years ago
nice song,...i like it
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valkemere999 3 years ago
i noticed that this always happens to kira,,his gundam must be destroyed first before he'll be given a new one..like the strike..after it, freedom was his next gundam, after the freedom was destroyed,ZGMF-X20A Strike Freedom was next.
valkemere999 3 years ago
kira lost because he wasn't focused in his battle with shin..and he has no intention to fight him..his goal was to protect the archangel...thats why he was 50% to archangel and 50% to shin
valkemere999 3 years ago
When Kira was battling Shin, he completely left the Arcangel unguarded. If Captain Gladys had no reservations about attacking the Arcangel, it would have been completely destroyed. However she hesitated and the Arcangel escaped damaged.
Yes, they needed to get rid of the Freedom so they could sell new model kits with the Strike Freedom.
Weltall8000 3 years ago
Yeah right get over yourself Weltall Gladys isnt in charge of the weaponry, that would be Arthur, when the AA actually fought back against the minerva, by no surprise the AA won what you. The only time the Minerva could ultimately win against the AA is when all the weapon system and if the ship was staying still is when they would be able to destroy the AA. You talking just like what happened between Kira and Shinn, since Kira wasnt trying to fight, that Shinn was able to defeat Kira
anonymous122912 3 years ago
Firing the main gun was typically done by the captain. Like with the Lohengrinn on Archangel or the Tannhueser of the Minerva, in general, the captain gave the go ahead on the firing of those weapons. Seeing as positron cannons firing, especially in the atmosphere, was a big deal.
AA did win, however, without Mwu's intervention and OP Atkatsuki, AA would have lost. Minerva outmaneuvered it and took the shot with the main gun.
As illustrated very clearly, Kira was trying.
Weltall8000 3 years ago
As illustrated very clearly that you need your eyes checked because Kira was more focused about the status of the AA then in the fight between him and shinn. SO get a life.
Bullshit if the eternal wasnt in the way then
the AA would have still won.
If firing the positron canon, the Tanhausser, was such a big deal to the minerva, then why do they use pretty much in all their fights.
You are just going on your feelings and not on the obvious facts.
anonymous122912 3 years ago
I which to continue on it was the AA that made the decision not to fire its lohengrins, the minerva looked to not care anything about firing its positron canon on Earth.
Besides all that the minerva is shown to be incredibly weak without its Tanhausser, when the AA is still strong without its Lohengrins.
So your argument is false.
anonymous122912 3 years ago
Yes, AA did opt not to use the Lohengrinn sometimes due to concern for the environment and contamination. OK, Minerva fired the Tanhuesser more than AA's Lohengrinn on Earth, point being? Doesn't change that Gladys normally gave the order.
Minerva was on the receiving end of ambushes constantly. Minerva held its own in many unfavorable battles. Even if we were to assume AA > Minerva, so what? What's the relevance to whether Gladys orders the shot or not?
Weltall8000 3 years ago
No, the Minerva never held its own since it was the mobile suits that dealt with much of the enemies in the ambushes. Where's your point to whether Arthur wasn't able to order the shot that he seems to be able to do in past episodes.
anonymous122912 3 years ago
Its MS were an integral role in its defense. However, Minerva itself was also integral in its own self defense. The two working in concert allowed it to survive those intense battles. To say the Minerva was not a major part in its own defense is just out there. Though I'm used to that from you.
Weltall8000 3 years ago
Self defense my ass, since they were the one that was falling in the EA's ambush in order to get to where the minerva was going. It was Shinn and Athrun that was doing all the work and the minerva pretty much sat there taking all the glory.
the fact that the minerva never actually moved towards the enemy unless fighting one-on-one shows how pathetic they were since the AA in seed had to go up against multiple ships and mobile suits in order to reach alaska.
anonymous122912 3 years ago
Clearly, he wasn't, I've pointed that out extensively, refer to the pages upon pages on that topic I've commented on.
Uh, bullshit, Minerva did outmaneuver AA.
Because they were in all kinds of very disadvantageous battles. However, it still was called out by Gladys most of the time, which is the point here.
Anon, that would be you doing so.
Weltall8000 3 years ago
I'm sorry but the minerva didnt out maneuver the AA since they fired that shot right when charging at the AA. The AA could easily win if it choose to fire its logengrins.
Arthur has shown in the past that he can order the fire of the Tanhausser and was looking for a miracle in which the AA blew itself up
So Arthur was partially to blame for the AA escaping in which he didnt destroy the archangel before it got to the sea in the first. He had ample time to do so.
anonymous122912 3 years ago
Actually, it did, seeing as, Minerva had a shot with the Tanhuesser that AA could not avoid. Fortunately for them, Mwu came and blocked it out of nowhere. Giving them the advantage and opportunity to blast Minerva. Without Mwu, AA was done there.
Arthur took charge and did it because he realized that waiting would prevent them from doing it, so he just went ahead and did it.
Arthur made a decision to supercede the captain as she was being indecisive.
Weltall8000 3 years ago
Actually the only reason for the minerva to supposedly win that battle was because of the threat of the Eternal being hit and does not show that the Minerva could have won against the AA in equal condition in which made the Minerva weaker than the archangel and due to the fact that The AA had positron canons and just like the Minerva and the Minerva always had to use it in order to win a fight on its own.
anonymous122912 3 years ago
did you not see kira try to get back to the arcangle but everytime he tryed to shinn would stop him by shotting in front of him and he looked when the explosion went off casue all his friends and his sister was on it. kira tryed a few times to get back to the angle and not only that before shinn even came into the fight kira was busy taking care of all the other mobal suits.think of thnigs this way if kira got to look at how the impales fights he would win but he wouldnt have to if he kill shinn
xXRairuXx 3 years ago
If escape was his goal, he failed at that, so Shinn beat him in that regard too. When the Arcangel was hit, he shouldn't have looked away, as I said, you don't look away from your opponent when you are in such an intense fight, for whatever the reason, that was undeniably a mistake on Kira's part. Kira encountered Shinn in the Impulse three times before this battle, so he did have the opportunity to see him in action. Kira did not take Shinn as seriously as he should have, therefore he lost.
Weltall8000 3 years ago
well that still doesnt make shinn better than kira. if kira took shinn as seriously as he did Rau Le Creuset...shinn wouldve been dead in 15 seconds flat
EvilJesusWTF 3 years ago 4
Perhaps Kira should have taken him as seriously as Rau?
Weltall8000 3 years ago
he shouldve...it it benefit shinn, kira and the viewers...kira because he wouldnt have to deal with that little bastard, shinn wouldve had his sad pathetic life done with, and viewers because no one wants to put up with his emo ass anymore =D
EvilJesusWTF 3 years ago
Seeing as Kira is a skill-less hack, who's only salvation is the thick plot-shielding around his sorry, undeveloped character, complete with an incoherent world view that he forces onto others through Mobile Suit battles that he has no business being in, let alone dominating. Yes, it is a miracle that Shinn was not killed in this fight, but then again, they were probably trying to show that Kira can also be the bigger man and adding that to his ridiculous list of outstanding accomplishments. =D
Weltall8000 3 years ago
kira wasnt trying to fight shinn he was trying to protect the arcangle helping it escape so cagalie could get ot orb
xXRairuXx 3 years ago
Read yytejepo's post two below yours. Your argument is cut to ribbons. Your angle on him defending the Arcangel, where was he when they were getting owned by the Minerva? Kira was not even close to the Arcangel because he was engaged with the Impulse. When Kira watches the Arcangel explode, if you are stupid enough to look away from your opponent, whom you are having one of the most intense battles of your life with, for whatever reason, you are a fool and deserve to be impaled.
Weltall8000 3 years ago
if kira was trying to kill shinn he could have easily but he wasnt. and because shinn knew that kira dosent go for the cockpit he took it to his advantage protecting everything else. also if you watched the episode Kira wasnt only focused on shinn the arcangle was taking hell fire and just barly made it to the ocean. and when he seen the huge explosen comeing from teh arcangle he tooked awway from shinn no focusing on him and whats when shinn took his chance on kira and when kira looked shinn 1
xXRairuXx 3 years ago
kira didn't try
freedommk5 4 years ago
kira didnt even try to kill Shinn that is why he lost
Pittykitty24 4 years ago
he didn´t even try? Why didn´t he just stand still in the air and let Shinn shoot him down? He tried to take shinn down make no mistake. When Kira tried to cut the impulse in half with his sword but Shinn avoided it would you still call that he didn´t try to kill Shinn. Yes Kira didn´t try to kill Shinn but he still tried to defeat him but couldn´t because he was overwhelmed. Simple as that. Shinn had studied the Freedom and took Kira by surprise. Kira lost fair and square.
yytejepo 3 years ago
does kira actually die
loppedfg 4 years ago
whoa dude i like this song woo-hoo and great vid.peace out!:)
kirayomatox3 4 years ago
cool vid and I love this song!
Kira and shin is hot.
leeshowron22 4 years ago
i love you videos there so awesome very creative
ultimafighter 4 years ago
ZomG! that was hypnotic! that was uber awsome! im speechless! that was like mew said EXTREEMEE to the MAXXX Lol! gj!!
Kimimaro56 4 years ago
OMG! Awesomeness!! and such and extreme fight, along with awesome music >D makes me.... kinda want to start watching >_>.... ahaha
Mewflame 4 years ago