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  • This strategy is quite off..normal timing should be 6:20 twilight council, 7:30 6 more gateways, 8:30 robotics, warp in stalkers, 9:30 Warp prism

    also, the +1 attack should be started even before the warpgate research and chrono boosted non-stop. With this BO, you will attack your opponent at 9:30 with nice amount of army with blink and +2 attack. If you attack later, he can make some infestors and just kill you.

  • Can they still 6 pool your ass? :/

  • His macro at the end got bad. If he would have stayed productive it would have been more terrifying.

  • @Sploogface No he cut production for a greater army.

  • how do i conter this?

  • @shootingmen I'm a protoss player who uses this strat regularly. Mutaling with a few infestors counters this well. Actually the composition (Roach/Hydra/Infestor) in the video wasn't bad also.

  • How to repeat and repeat the queue like the probe at 1:01?

  • i die to this all the time. no idea what to do

  • I see zergs go for forge fast expos alot to force =D

  • why did the queen @ 6:03 did not attack the observer? Do the overlords detect observers?

  • @InfestedChris Overseers are the ones that can detect. If the zerg really wanted to kill the obs he could've fungal growth it using the infestors.

  • @InfestedChris overlords with detection? this aint sc1 lol

  • You're missing the cyber core in the descriptions BO, force.

  • Anyone else keep clicking the minimap and accidentally pausing the vid? Damn tiredness.

  • subbed , iam noob and you help, keep up

    

  • btw good video keep up the good work subbed:D

  • question when do u get 3/4th gas?

  • @XiangYuGe Your mom called me to tell you you're late for your faggotry lessons.

  • So this is prolly a stupid question lol, but Im pretty new to this game..Im just wondering what the numbers infront of the structures mean? (build order)

  • @oItsMuffinTimeo It's the supply of your army. Because skill level dictates build time (good players will have building A out at 2:30, while weaker players will have it out at 3:30), and because each game is unpredictable, timing buildings based on supply is the best way to judge when you should be doing certain things. Max supply is determined by your supply depots/pylons/overlords and is found in the top right of your screen.

  • @oItsMuffinTimeo number of units available =D 10 building means 10 workers...then build that building... or 42 building means you have 42 number of units

  • @leadandflow Oh ok I gotcha thanks much!

  • Force is the classiest person on youtube. Whenever anyone (usually a troll) yells at him or others he will calmly point out why they are wrong. He obviously is at peace with himself and this is something to be admired.

  • What's about a 6 pool rush ?

  • I just started a game determined to play this strat, even if it meant I would die due to bad scouting :P Was PvP and coincidently on the same map as the replay, was a good win 4 me. Think I'll give it some more practice though, thanks for the replay!

  • U said that on almost every PvZ, the zerg wud go for a forge fast eo

  • @XiangYuGe I love how you look up his video specifically and then post crap about it...

  • can i use forge fe against non zerg? it seems most strats of a Forge FE are only against zerg....

  • @XiangYuGe i like it that he does that then and that he is a prick. alot of people like it that he is a prick then.

    66thousand people like it that he is a prick like that

  • as a zerg how would i deal with this??

  • @bigeasy171717 zling roach festor

  • @XiangYuGe shut up u couldent do any better douche

  • at 1:46 u said almost every ZERG player gos 4 a forge FE

  • @XiangYuGe douche

  • 1:47 ''I almost always see the zerg player going for a forge fast expand''.....? oh well i understand... we all make mistakes :)

  • @XiangYuGe yes

  • @XiangYuGe "HEY! I'M A PRICK"

    prick

  • @XiangYuGe get a life

  • 1:48 nice didn't know zerg could FFE ^^

  • @XiangYuGe haha prik

  • @XiangYuGe

    Can you do a better job? (No.) So shut the fuck up.

  • he went 2 robo lol

  • Hey Force! Love the content - great work! Have fun in Vegas ;)

  • @XiangYuGe Umad bro?

  • @XiangYuGe Dumb ass

  • @XiangYuGe and what you do is " Hey I suck in Starcraft 2 and I come to watch good replays and commentaries and have to take my frustration out with a retarded comment, expecting that professional players will come see me and recruit me" Oh btw Force has the greatest commentaries and helped my game a lot.

  • @XiangYuGe HEY EVERYONE IN XIANGYUGE IM A TROLL

  • @XiangYuGe

    You think you can get away with another retarded post by erasing it?

    Here it is, from my inbox:

    "@killazerg1 yeah I know this is you force, you know, its kinda sad you post stuff on your own videos then reply to it yourself... "

    Are you really gonna make yourself look dumber by claiming to know the identity of an anonymous poster (myself) without really knowing? I guess you're stupid enough to think if you erase it, it never happened

    Keep us laughing with more posts idiot

  • @XiangYuGe umad bro?

  • @lalo19 which husky?

  • FORCE and HUSKY should team up in 2v2 sometime...

  • i luv how force can like verbably punch trolls in the face =P

  • @XiangYuGe you're a douche, you know that? only force has the restrain to respond to people like you in such a calm manner. go back to your sad life.

  • force, how did the toss player know that the early roach pressure was coming(cause building 4 cannons in definitely not standard, atleast to my knowledge) is it assumed if he went pool first, or was it just that he got lucky??

  • @Linkmarth he sent a scout probe into the zergs main at 2:00 and got killed by 7 roaches then he threw up the cannons. And 4 cannons is not standard lol

  • @Linkmarth Most of the time Zerg players really want to punish your FFE. Sometimes they double expand in response, but they have to do something.

  • Straight up 2 base 8-gate is better then this.

  • @XiangYuGe im too lazy to go on teamliquid then find a build and then find a replay with that build, takes at least 30-45 minutes to do the whole process. If you like to waste your time good for you, i might be lazy but smart enough to value the time.

  • @XiangYuGe I suppose you KNOW your being a douche bag right?

  • @XiangYuGe lol you don't have a life or friends

  • @XiangYuGe CUm AT me RETARD

  • Hey Force, is there a reason why he put only non-pylon buildings on that wall and not a pylon for later to be killed? And wouldn't it be better to kill the forge (while no upgrades in progress obviously)? To keep the tech for stalkers/sentries i mean. I guess it makes little to none difference as it is remade quickly if not already made by the time the first core is destroyed ... Great video as always Force! What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.

  • @Titahne pylons get killed too easily and they affect your supply, you use the non-pylon buildings cause they are bigger also, blocks off more. as for the cyber core...its just preference it doesnt matter.

  • @Titahne those buildings have more hp than the pylon so it would be harder for the roaches to kill. and usually the forge is the building to kill but in this case we need the +2 attack. as long as u remember to remake the buildings its okay

  • @XiangYuGe HEY GUYS IM XIANYU GE, I HAVE NOTHING TO DO EXCEPT TYPE IN ALL CAPS AND BE A FAG.

  • @XiangYuGe lol virgin.

  • @XiangYuGe lol, "HEY GUYS I'M XIANGCOCKLICKER, I GO TROLL YOUTUBE VIDEOS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE LARGER DICKS THEN ME BECAUSE IT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD. YAY!"

    prick

  • @XiangYuGe I for one doesn't go on the teamliquid forum ALL DAY and read the epicly long text of the strategy. The reason I subbed to Force is exactly for this. He does all the work /prep and all I need to do is listen and watch.

  • Would you go Wepons or Armor upgrades when going against Hydralisk without a Collosus?

  • @KaritoBandito559 You usually want attack upgrades because of the possibility of a switch into roach. One may think with the high attack speed of Hydras that armor would be better but it is too easily defeated by a transition into armored roaches, Plus if you get zealots they get extra benefit from the attack upgrade because of their 2 attacks. Zealot + Stalker + Sentry is pretty good against Hydras because if you FF your zealots can just sit there and do good DPS. :)

  • just hatin that life eh?

  • @XiangYuGe hey buddy, hows it feel to get owned by a genuinely nice and helpfull person, everything your not really ^^

  • i love how commentators like force dont get mad at people like @XiangYuGe, ya these are from team liquids site so what i dont think force ever claimed to come up with any of these strats

  • @XiangYuGe kekekekek

  • @XiangYuGe This is what happens when you give those Chinese WOW gold farmers work breaks

  • @noobsonlypls that was hilarious but i feel so bad for laughing at it.

  • @noobsonlypls LOL good one broseph

  • @XiangYuGe UMAD BRO? Fuckers

  • @XiangYuGe you're a retard.

  • @PhsycoBean umadyo?

  • @XiangYuGe Lol.."im gunna troll force today"..*momments later*.."everyone hates me now. FUUUUUUU"

  • I agree with all comments regarding XiangYuGe... douche! If he said that to your face, I would back you if you smacked him! ForceSC2Strategy is great =D

  • @XiangYuGe u dick

  • @XiangYuGe awww some one had a bad day

  • @XiangYuGe the only dumb prick here is u.

  • @XiangYuGe i dont see you making videos...

  • @XiangYuGe You are by far the worst human being I have ever had the misfortune to meet. Please crawl back into w/e hole you came out of and stop posting on Youtube.

  • finally... another protoss strat... im sick of me four gate

  • Heya!

    I do visit TL from time to time looking to see if any good strats are being discussed. However, I always credit and link to the thread when I do (take a look at the last T strat 3 reaper tvt open as an example). This was simply a replay I pulled from online and discissed.

    If you have a thread for a simular strategy feel free to email me with a link and ill be glad to take a look and possibly cover it in a future Wednesday toss start video!

    Force@forcestrategygaming . com

  • @ForceSC2strategy You are amazing force. haters gonna hate!

  • @ForceSC2strategy Force knows how to kill 'em with kindness. :D

  • @ForceSC2strategy After reading your comment, i could FEEL the need of Xiang to just punch you. I love it. Kill 'em with kindness.

  • @ForceSC2strategy Kill 'em with kindness, Force! :D

  • @XiangYuGe lol u mad. Go back to Yu-Gi-Oh bro, where the real strategy lives!!

  • @XiangYuGe ....yea but alot of us dont go to TL that often...you can say the same thing about all casters " hey im day9 i went to MLG.com and got a replay and said what already happend" shut up dude

  • @MagStarcraft hes a just a fuckin troll

    ...just an idiot

  • @XiangYuGe ye cause i hate assholes like you

    if you don't like to watch this guy why won't you go get raped at ed's house again?

  • @XiangYuGe go fuck yourself if you dont like why even watch?

  • SO MAD BRO

  • @joerogers11155 lawl

  • @XiangYuGe You Mad Bro?

  • HF IN VEGAS FORCE!!! <3<3

  • @madab1tch agreed

  • @XiangYuGe

    Are you retarded, sir?

  • @killazerg1 thats not really a valid question. he IS a retard

  • 1:49 "i almost always see the ZERG player go for a forge FE"

  • 1:47 i almost always see the zerg go for a forge fast expand

    wait what?

  • @oz2973

    Zerg Forge FE is so Overpowered...

  • The Z player had the right idea in terms of countering this build, but went too roach heavy. He needed more Hydras and to micro away his infestors after they dropped their fungals so that they could live for another fight. Finally, it seems like I say this in every XvZ strategy video, but that's because it matters: CREEP SPREAD! Roach/Hydra vs. Blink Stalkers is a battle of concaves, and creep makes your units so much faster and helps so much in getting that strong concave.

  • @XCodes This is a great comment.  Almost everything I was thinking. Thumbs it up for ya!

  • it feels like i'm the only person in the whole world who doesn't have a computer that can handle 720p -_-

  • @JOBOB335 Try 1080p.

  • @JOBOB335 bro, derez sum shit you can download onto yo' pc that lets you watch the videos in higher QUALITY!!!!

  • @lolatmyaccounts sounds like a virus

  • Nice :D

  • Mid on the video i got my 1080p :D

  • 1080p for pros

  • Very good strategy. I use this most of the time for my big map, long spawn games and for smaller maps I go forge FE stargate into voidray/phoenix harass.

  • 480 = good enough :D

  • oh great now im gonna never win vs toss.....

  • @oIIBLACKOUTIIo how come?

  • 480 :(

  • Btw theres 480p if u dont like 240p

  • Wow for the first time I am in top 5 comments... sooo cool...

    Well anyway... FORCE I LOVE UUUU, hope u will enjoy in LV...

  • anyone else seeing bad quality?

    

  • hai bros so liek first uhh comment wow

  • @IdleSway Shut up

  • @IdleSway liek no sheit u srsly srsly? liek srslei waouw

  • @shitorishimashta liek i think so bro man this is crazzzy

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