As if any teacher instructing a course in Received Pronunciation or General American English will teach "got'em." (GAE) is superior, given the "standard" American form is more discernible than (RP). GAE is closer to Classical Latin and Greek from Noah Webster extricating English from the British Crown's attempts to bastardize the language with French which is an official Vulgar Latin language since it's a romance language and any language descended from Latin but not Latin is thus; Vulgate.
So the dialect that vulgarized its "standard" of the same language is the "proper" form@AnthionyPym? Furthermore I thought the UK produced great logicians circa Bertrand Russell. Obviously those days are gone, you made a total irrelevant point about slang such as "got'em," and misappropriating that to English settlers. How is this the case if we're judging both dialects by their "STANDARDS" meaning GAE and RP? I'll apologize for George W. Bush and Sarah Palin if you are on RP? lol
In the case of color vs colour, honor vs honour, center vs centre and the like, I have found through some simple research that color, honor and center (and other similar words) are older forms, closer to the Latin root then the French influenced alternatives. It seems to me that the French did some "subverting" of English through conquest ,and it is not obvious to me how the older forms can be ruinous. I suppose some think the French speak and spell English better. Is my research correct ?
Bollocks. It's only an drawling accent with a couple of subverted spellings. There's more difference between different regions within the UK. What a non discussion.
True enough. There is more variation in Britain than in the US, and the differences between UK varieties are more numerous than those between RP and AmEng.
The problem has more to do with institutionalization. The Americans have their dictionaries and standards; most of the UK varieties are considered non-standard.
The answer to the initial quetion: Every variety is the best one for its own speakers.
I still think people in America Speak English a Lot more clear, and a lot faster with better emotion...More people can understand the things we say at the same speed you brits say it!
And you know what is funny? the english language is my second...I can speak it very fast and a lot better than many hillbillys. As a matter of a fact when i speak, my vocabulary is very high. But that isnt the point of how many words i know, if i didnt simplify this it could go on forever. America is better
@MadMAn12gauge First what do you mean with "you brits say it" the person here is from Australia.
English is not my first language of course but I'm not agree with you about people from States speak more clear, because for me is the oposite thing, I understand better an Londoner or a Kiwi or and Aussi than a person from the States. If the language is like music, I feel absolutely more identifying with brits, and southern english sound!
Language is like music in that there is just some music we can't stand to listen to, and there is some music that we want to listen to because for some reason it is just pleasurable to do so. This varies very much for each individual and sometimes changes over time. So, I guess the question, "is American English better"? Will cab be disagreed about and both sides will be "correct" as far as they themselves are concerned.
the only way language is like music is that many songs you can hardly tell what the lyrics are in some cases...Now i dont know about you but when i am trying to pay attention to people talking i want to be able to understand exactly what they say!
in music i might only care about the instruments if the lyrics suck or i just cant really tell what is said...That is the only relation to how music and language are similar, but when people talk, i hope you want to be able to understand what they say
interesting comment on the dialogical way of speaking of American. This speaking in 'rhetorical questions' always annoyed me when I was discussing with Americans. I guess I misinterpreted it as an effect of a individual focused culture in terms of 'I'm thinking aloud so people can admire my great reasoning', probably due to my own cultural background where this is usually considered as pathetic straining after effect. Thank you for that insight. Actually I nice thing of letting people participat
Very interesting concepts.
Rozelyn23 3 months ago
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As if any teacher instructing a course in Received Pronunciation or General American English will teach "got'em." (GAE) is superior, given the "standard" American form is more discernible than (RP). GAE is closer to Classical Latin and Greek from Noah Webster extricating English from the British Crown's attempts to bastardize the language with French which is an official Vulgar Latin language since it's a romance language and any language descended from Latin but not Latin is thus; Vulgate.
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theone1087 1 year ago
So the dialect that vulgarized its "standard" of the same language is the "proper" form@AnthionyPym? Furthermore I thought the UK produced great logicians circa Bertrand Russell. Obviously those days are gone, you made a total irrelevant point about slang such as "got'em," and misappropriating that to English settlers. How is this the case if we're judging both dialects by their "STANDARDS" meaning GAE and RP? I'll apologize for George W. Bush and Sarah Palin if you are on RP? lol
theone1087 1 year ago
which is better? Just say it.
kobrajesusreturns 1 year ago
what is better?
EngIishContingent 1 year ago
In the case of color vs colour, honor vs honour, center vs centre and the like, I have found through some simple research that color, honor and center (and other similar words) are older forms, closer to the Latin root then the French influenced alternatives. It seems to me that the French did some "subverting" of English through conquest ,and it is not obvious to me how the older forms can be ruinous. I suppose some think the French speak and spell English better. Is my research correct ?
jaegerhund 2 years ago
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@jaegerhund My point exactly! Please read my comments!
theone1087 1 year ago
Bollocks. It's only an drawling accent with a couple of subverted spellings. There's more difference between different regions within the UK. What a non discussion.
bruckner66 2 years ago
True enough. There is more variation in Britain than in the US, and the differences between UK varieties are more numerous than those between RP and AmEng.
The problem has more to do with institutionalization. The Americans have their dictionaries and standards; most of the UK varieties are considered non-standard.
The answer to the initial quetion: Every variety is the best one for its own speakers.
Interculturality 2 years ago
I still think people in America Speak English a Lot more clear, and a lot faster with better emotion...More people can understand the things we say at the same speed you brits say it!
And you know what is funny? the english language is my second...I can speak it very fast and a lot better than many hillbillys. As a matter of a fact when i speak, my vocabulary is very high. But that isnt the point of how many words i know, if i didnt simplify this it could go on forever. America is better
MadMAn12gauge 2 years ago
@MadMAn12gauge First what do you mean with "you brits say it" the person here is from Australia.
English is not my first language of course but I'm not agree with you about people from States speak more clear, because for me is the oposite thing, I understand better an Londoner or a Kiwi or and Aussi than a person from the States. If the language is like music, I feel absolutely more identifying with brits, and southern english sound!
muteland 1 year ago
Language is like music in that there is just some music we can't stand to listen to, and there is some music that we want to listen to because for some reason it is just pleasurable to do so. This varies very much for each individual and sometimes changes over time. So, I guess the question, "is American English better"? Will cab be disagreed about and both sides will be "correct" as far as they themselves are concerned.
Nozokimidayo 3 years ago
the only way language is like music is that many songs you can hardly tell what the lyrics are in some cases...Now i dont know about you but when i am trying to pay attention to people talking i want to be able to understand exactly what they say!
in music i might only care about the instruments if the lyrics suck or i just cant really tell what is said...That is the only relation to how music and language are similar, but when people talk, i hope you want to be able to understand what they say
MadMAn12gauge 2 years ago
interesting comment on the dialogical way of speaking of American. This speaking in 'rhetorical questions' always annoyed me when I was discussing with Americans. I guess I misinterpreted it as an effect of a individual focused culture in terms of 'I'm thinking aloud so people can admire my great reasoning', probably due to my own cultural background where this is usually considered as pathetic straining after effect. Thank you for that insight. Actually I nice thing of letting people participat
elkong805 3 years ago