I finally understand this song! He's upset about getting a bad grade (well, a not perfect grade) and probably commits suicide. Japanese students did (and might still do) that a lot because they got depressed about not making the cut.
Huh, interesting! I liked the discordant sounds and the art style, a very grunge video and song. I like it, its different from a lot of the more popular songs. :)
Oh now this is interesting!! It's very different sounding than most VOCALOID songs. It's not as crisp and perfect sounding as many... but I think that really lends some realism to it. Rin and Len don't sound like machines, they sound like people just... singing. Plain and simple. And I really like that.
This song is creative in my opinion! something with haters and lovers clashing to this extent has to be worth it, and it clearly is. My advice is try to do what savegalkissy commented and if you still don't like it don't comment please, that's why dislike buttons exist :3 commenting
My theory: The song is taking place during WW2 when the US is all paranoid about the Japanese. Rin and Len are a pair of twins living in one of the camps for Japanese in the states, and they have a little garage band where they hang out and play music.
Hmm... This could have the potential to translate pretty well for a string orchestra, and it's definately at the level of our orchestra. Plus, it would give our poor violas a little attention.
They sound kinda "off" to most I guess. Kinda off pitch, not quite in harmony with each other as they usually are. But I think it brings out the effect the songwriter was looking for. Music isn't written in stone. Punk isn't beautiful, and it's my favorite.
Funny, because I didn't notice any dischord in this song...it just sounds so perfect. Disturbing, but perfect. And the PV and artwork are so simple and interesting...the way it's drawn and the way it sounds makes me think of Rin and Len in their garage, starting their own band. I'd buy this album. <3
I realize that you guys are protecting your love for this song, but please stop attacking (or whatever) those who don't like the song. They have their reasons and you have yours, which have probably already been mentioned if you take a moment to read the previous comments. If I could un-yellow my comments up here I would, but I can't. : )
this is a beautiful song, as for the people who say its "terrible", the "screeching" is called dissonance and is common in many types of music. and it you hate it so much why do you listen to it?
Every one just shut up i agree 100% with Kise you get really sad and deppreseed and try singing.........sound good? NOPE SO SHUT UP AND ENJOY THE MUSIC
I'm just going to say--people are entitled to their own opinions and frankly the massive argument at the top of the comments section is unnecessary and unpleasant.
But either way, I am personally not a fan of this song, but I do think the graphics are quite nice and I understand the idea behind it, but it is simply not up my alley. It is one of my favorite videos thus far though. I always enjoy a good grungy(I have no idea how to spell that) effect.
I sort of don't get the song. Well, I have this vague idea, but I'm not sure if I'm right.
What I got from it is that they are leading meaningless lives-- everybody expects something from them, plan out what they want them to be, and they can't say a thing against it and only able to emit "invisible smoke" of what they're feeling.
Okay, sorta lame interpretation, anybody got good ones?
I think the style of the song is more Western/American but all in all, this song is perfect. They did the voices like that for a reason, not because they don't know how to use Rin/Len
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Let me get the point straight - I LOVE the twins. But this song is just horrible, I mean the tune is ok, but the twins just screech through the whole song. Rin's voice is done especially bad, as she should be pitched down to match her brother's voice.
I think the screeching is to show how much they dislike what they're talking about. The notes they sing don't match up beautifully, but instead kind of clash against each other to emphasize their discontent. So it's supposed to sound musically hideous : )
Their out-of-tune voices sound like regular shouting.
Together they sound the way a picture drawn by an infant with a paint set looks: Terrible
The composer could have it sound like "Loathing" and still get the message across, but Rin and Len are probably just two talentless kids who wrote a song to rant about their crappy lives. If they sang like angels, they couldn't really be complaining.
The infant's picture is pretty because it can't draw, I think.
I shouldn't have replied like that earlier, that was a mistake so please ignore it.
You'd have to listen to the song to hear the notes don't match up normally, or clash, or whatever. I think the clashing notes symbolize that they don't like what they're describing. I don't think anyone likes those things. 'Musically hideous' was supposed to mean something like, "both bad and good", but 'Musically' doesn't exactly mean 'Like good music'. It's really hard to explain : )
@Kisekikui Hey, is the composer well known? If it's some well known artist, it's pretty much a given that everything on this song was on purpose. Otherwise, only people that like to either look deeper into a song or find an excuse to not face the true will like this song.
However, on another note, that screeching problem is gone if you JUST lower the volume a little bit. Then it doesn't hurt the ears, and they sound pretty relaxed.
I'm not sure whether or not the composer is well known, but I know that it's the same person who created Reverse Rainbow, which was popular a while back. After listening to that song, it's apparent that Sunzriver knows how to make a sweet-sounding song, meaning that the dissonance here was on purpose. You can also tell by the style of the video, which was made to look like bad quality.
@Awookado Screeching? I think their tuning is done in a very down-to-earth way, personally and reflects the spirit of the song. Rin's voice is alright imo. They sound independent of each other yet cannot separate from each other. Try listening to the song imagining either Rin or Len not singing their notes and it will show. You cannot have life without the highs nor lows.
I finally understand this song! He's upset about getting a bad grade (well, a not perfect grade) and probably commits suicide. Japanese students did (and might still do) that a lot because they got depressed about not making the cut.
roseannbutterfly914 2 days ago in playlist Favorite videos
@NekoMumei IKR!!!!! XD ;3
Yuxsxr 1 week ago
I really really love this song... and the video is awesome, I love how Len's running speeds up with the music.
NekoMumei 1 week ago
you hear the voice at the beginning too, right?
funion22 1 week ago
I feel your pain Len............I HATE GETTING 99 POINTS ON A TEST!! ITS LIKE WTF??! YOU COULDNT GIVE ME THAT ONE POINT!?!?! WHYYYYYYYY
AnimeLuver16712 1 week ago
*_* the hands
funion22 2 weeks ago
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atsukotenshi 2 weeks ago
Huh, interesting! I liked the discordant sounds and the art style, a very grunge video and song. I like it, its different from a lot of the more popular songs. :)
Zantillia 3 weeks ago
Omgs, this is awesome! =^_^=
tabbicatlovesanime 4 weeks ago
I think I know how to say useless now ._.
Yuxsxr 1 month ago
Oh now this is interesting!! It's very different sounding than most VOCALOID songs. It's not as crisp and perfect sounding as many... but I think that really lends some realism to it. Rin and Len don't sound like machines, they sound like people just... singing. Plain and simple. And I really like that.
dappleback 1 month ago
I should be going to sleep ._. But FORGET THAT XD ima watch it again :3
Yuxsxr 1 month ago
@Yuxsxr I totally do the same thing, once I find a great song I can't stop listening to it even though I need to sleep. xD
NekoMumei 1 week ago
Darn smoke getting in the way when they wanna be together!!!
Yuxsxr 1 month ago
I can't stop watching!!!
Yuxsxr 1 month ago
KAGAMINE BROS!!!! DX whaaaa xD
Yuxsxr 1 month ago
hmmmmm......odd
The first few time i heard this i clearly remembered i didn't like it...
But why do i like it now?
TheSandstrom77 1 month ago
It's kinda like a boring party...
ProfessorChicklet 1 month ago
This song is creative in my opinion! something with haters and lovers clashing to this extent has to be worth it, and it clearly is. My advice is try to do what savegalkissy commented and if you still don't like it don't comment please, that's why dislike buttons exist :3 commenting
izaworld123 1 month ago
This song is probably talking about adults and their harshness... I'm just guessing though...
izaworld123 1 month ago
Kagamine.... bros.?? XD
Rin is definitely a girl...
PatchouliMukyuu 1 month ago 5
first time listening: hm.... doesn't sound that good, but I'll give it a another try
second time listening: catchy......
third time listening: This is awesome *adds to playlist*
savegalkissy 1 month ago
Anyone else notice that Rin's wearing a JImi Hendrix shirt? ^_^
napajwolf13 3 months ago in playlist juh
Thank you so much for the English and romaji subs! I loved this song before, but now I can enjoy it even more! :D
About the translation, though. There's one line that is wrong. The last time they sing "imi no nai yume sa" it should be "imi no nai uta sa"
Other than that, you did a wonderful job! Thank you! ^^
Materiatheif09 3 months ago 5
@Materiatheif09
Oops, thanks : )
Kisekikui 3 months ago
I just realized how ironic it is to have sign language in a music video.
sprkapple 3 months ago 4
the title should be kagamine rin len since rin come first
Suicune34 3 months ago
@Suicune34 o-o len is singing most of the lyrics o-o his name should be first o-o LOL
Bladesheart 3 months ago in playlist Vocaloids
Why is everyone talking about screeching? I can't hear it. I like the dischord in the song, it brings out the character of their words.
HyperificTyper 3 months ago
Did anyone else notice at the beginning it said 'Kagamine BROS'?
HyperificTyper 3 months ago 3
We can draw Len now! Hurray! lol
KittyKatLover14 3 months ago 2
I nEED this mp3! Pls! Q_Q
aCrush40 3 months ago
My theory: The song is taking place during WW2 when the US is all paranoid about the Japanese. Rin and Len are a pair of twins living in one of the camps for Japanese in the states, and they have a little garage band where they hang out and play music.
TheMusicalPsycho 3 months ago
Rin's playing keyboard and Len guitar (seems to be stratocaster? :D ). Shouldn't it be the other way around? XD
Nice song, but I don't like the video...
NintenHedgehog 4 months ago
@NintenHedgehog he's playing it Jimi Hendrix style. haha! XD
theeighthsea 3 months ago
Hmm... This could have the potential to translate pretty well for a string orchestra, and it's definately at the level of our orchestra. Plus, it would give our poor violas a little attention.
TheMusicalPsycho 4 months ago
Rin should sing more. <_<"
Still, I actually think this sounds pretty good. Sure, it's got a dark tone and whatever else, but the melody's well-done, to say the least.
MisterPoster 4 months ago
ooh this is unique~ xD
lufeinaji 4 months ago
Wait...is that Bob Marley on Rin's T-shirt? XD
HawkStripeh 4 months ago
@HawkStripeh It's Jimi Hendrix
MrElbowsmash 4 months ago
you have just read this comment o3o .
Ayako7Mizuki 4 months ago
They sound kinda "off" to most I guess. Kinda off pitch, not quite in harmony with each other as they usually are. But I think it brings out the effect the songwriter was looking for. Music isn't written in stone. Punk isn't beautiful, and it's my favorite.
2thatonegirl16 4 months ago
hmmmmm
i think i like other songs better but this is nice too i guess
idklolnow 4 months ago
Funny, because I didn't notice any dischord in this song...it just sounds so perfect. Disturbing, but perfect. And the PV and artwork are so simple and interesting...the way it's drawn and the way it sounds makes me think of Rin and Len in their garage, starting their own band. I'd buy this album. <3
ymmechan 4 months ago 39
the sentences at the beginning represents a guitar?
gladdymarie16 4 months ago
You should put the nico code in your videos. ;~;
VocaTAU 4 months ago in playlist VocaTAU's favorites
Absolutely love Rin's outfit <3 And the way they sounds soo......badass~
MrsOmnomnomers 5 months ago 3
Lolz, I have Rin's arm warmers! =D
Bonepelt 5 months ago
Tis Ear piercing when they both sing at the same time... like the same note at the same time.... i like them separate....but not together...
MrLolicon93 5 months ago
You guys are all weird.. Nyan nyan nyan~
blazinbill34 5 months ago
I realize that you guys are protecting your love for this song, but please stop attacking (or whatever) those who don't like the song. They have their reasons and you have yours, which have probably already been mentioned if you take a moment to read the previous comments. If I could un-yellow my comments up here I would, but I can't. : )
Kisekikui 5 months ago 61
this is a beautiful song, as for the people who say its "terrible", the "screeching" is called dissonance and is common in many types of music. and it you hate it so much why do you listen to it?
Elunore2 5 months ago in playlist Elunore2's Favorited Videos
I think the """""TERRIBLE"""""" sounds or what are you talking about just fit to the song perfectly and i like it ^^
YupTanya 5 months ago
it's the music style. go listen to old american pop from the 80s~
it's based on that style
UTAUKaimeiChou 5 months ago
Every one just shut up i agree 100% with Kise you get really sad and deppreseed and try singing.........sound good? NOPE SO SHUT UP AND ENJOY THE MUSIC
mangalovinfreak 5 months ago
@mangalovinfreak THANK. YOU.
TriggerHappyKitty 5 months ago
@TriggerHappyKitty Some one that finally understand's this song sheesh =.= *pat's your back* look's like it's us versus all them =.=
mangalovinfreak 5 months ago
I love it. That's all I'm sayin'.
jojay1996 5 months ago in playlist Individual unique vocaloids
me need teh linky
itachilover834 6 months ago
can't we all just enjoy the song?and if u don't like it just dislike the video and move on with your life?
thumbs up if u agree with me.
kellyflame152 6 months ago
can't we all just be happy and listen to the song?and not comment if u don't like it and just dislike it???
thumbs up if u agree with me
kellyflame152 6 months ago
It's not that bad. I mean come on, why are so many people complaining? I personally love this.
ILuvHikaruAndKaoru 6 months ago
@ILuvHikaruAndKaoru
I agree. Too many music spazzez. =.=;; *ignores.* That's better.
lumaluna101 6 months ago
@lumaluna101 Haha xD But I really don't see what everyone's complaining about. The twins sound fine in this xD
ILuvHikaruAndKaoru 6 months ago 3
I like this song(: Its different from the usual twins songs:) well how they sound is different ^.^ I guess some people dont like different things;p
MystereSoul 6 months ago
3:42 Jimmie Hendrix's mouth is also crossed out :p
AnimeKittyNyah 6 months ago
Kick-ass song!
xTammichan 6 months ago
A hauntingly beautiful melody.
Salioka 6 months ago
wtf is wrong with people it sounds ok not that bad - 3 -
dragonia00 6 months ago
I'm just going to say--people are entitled to their own opinions and frankly the massive argument at the top of the comments section is unnecessary and unpleasant.
But either way, I am personally not a fan of this song, but I do think the graphics are quite nice and I understand the idea behind it, but it is simply not up my alley. It is one of my favorite videos thus far though. I always enjoy a good grungy(I have no idea how to spell that) effect.
chickenanon 6 months ago
I love it (: <3
AnimePrincess2010 6 months ago
I love this .^^ even if other ppl don't get this style of music, I really like it....
GothicXXGurl 6 months ago
I love this. Even if some ppl don't get this style
GothicXXGurl 6 months ago
I like how Rin's wearing a Jimi Hendrix shirt.
napajwolf13 6 months ago
Am I the only one that doesn't hear any out of tune notes? Sure, it's not the most harmonic harmony, but I can't hear any off keys.
The composer used dissonance very well here. The song is supposed to feel jarring and somewhat unpleasant.
Kaizykat 6 months ago in playlist Rin and Len 3
I know those hand signs by heart now :D
xRinnyxchanx 6 months ago
To those at the bottom ranting away. The music the producer made is a genre that we don't really hear anymore. You get used to it though :D
Scarletdollie 6 months ago
:'D I... like it~
Ashestoashesjc 6 months ago
I need the mp3333.... pretty pls with zebras on top?????
Rinimorbid 7 months ago in playlist vocaloid 3
The Kagamine... Bros?
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Wut.
fenn567 7 months ago
According to my mom, that's Jimi Hendrix, not Bob Marley XD
BigMouth12349 7 months ago
i LOVE rin's outfit! it's the first i notice whenever i watch this video.
KatKit52 8 months ago in playlist Vocaloids Playlist
not sure if that marley on her shirt.. i thought it was more of hendrix XD
miwafwakes 8 months ago
For some reason I really like this song bt I cant figure out why.
Coananlover 8 months ago
One of my all-time Kagamine Twins songs. It sounds modern with just a touch of classic, and they sound perfect together. <3
VocaIoidLover 8 months ago
This is amazing! just as Echno591 said, its down to earthy! I love listening to this song now
TheShadowPrincesss 8 months ago
Omigosh! it taught me how to draw len!
RichardWolfZoza 8 months ago
i dunno why but i love listening to the song...it's just not what i usually listen to
TheLoveoverhate 9 months ago
I sort of don't get the song. Well, I have this vague idea, but I'm not sure if I'm right.
What I got from it is that they are leading meaningless lives-- everybody expects something from them, plan out what they want them to be, and they can't say a thing against it and only able to emit "invisible smoke" of what they're feeling.
Okay, sorta lame interpretation, anybody got good ones?
purebottle 10 months ago 3
@purebottle Thats what I got too. This song is one of my favs. It just sounds like my life exactly. I ♥ it. :P
LadyLumiere 9 months ago
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midget61595 10 months ago
I love this song, dammit ;____;
kishikimikia 1 year ago
I think the style of the song is more Western/American but all in all, this song is perfect. They did the voices like that for a reason, not because they don't know how to use Rin/Len
Randyraptorable 1 year ago
is there a mp3 for this?
ChaosityHahaha 1 year ago
it was okay, i loved the PV, but i think the chorus was a bit understated, it didn't leave me satisfied
thejayst3r 1 year ago
whats the nico video? ;w;
cattysara206 1 year ago
@cattysara206 sm12198263
midget61595 10 months ago
I really like this song. It makes the twins sound like humans. Teens in a punk band. XD
Laveangle 1 year ago
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Let me get the point straight - I LOVE the twins. But this song is just horrible, I mean the tune is ok, but the twins just screech through the whole song. Rin's voice is done especially bad, as she should be pitched down to match her brother's voice.
Awookado 1 year ago
@Awookado
I think the screeching is to show how much they dislike what they're talking about. The notes they sing don't match up beautifully, but instead kind of clash against each other to emphasize their discontent. So it's supposed to sound musically hideous : )
Kisekikui 1 year ago 57
Hah. Do you have anything to prove that theory?
Honestly, I agree with Awookado.
It's terribly mixed.
They can express discontent in other ways than making them sound terribly together.
Honestly, all of the notes that Len sings sound terrible....
It's flat or out of tune... It doesn't work.
momsbaby9112 6 months ago in playlist rin and len
@momsbaby9112
Hah. No.
Their out-of-tune voices sound like regular shouting.
Together they sound the way a picture drawn by an infant with a paint set looks: Terrible
The composer could have it sound like "Loathing" and still get the message across, but Rin and Len are probably just two talentless kids who wrote a song to rant about their crappy lives. If they sang like angels, they couldn't really be complaining.
The infant's picture is pretty because it can't draw, I think.
Kisekikui 6 months ago
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Terrible metaphor, and it's still terrible.
Just because you find it 'pretty' doesn't mean everyone does, and other people will agree.
If it was more in tune, it would be good.
'Musically hideous'? Honestly? If it's hideous music, it isn't beautiful or pretty or even nice to listen to.
Even if it was meant to be this way, doesn't mean it's something that's nice to listen to.
Since you still have no proof to your statement(s) I refuse to take you seriously on your opinion.
momsbaby9112 6 months ago
@momsbaby9112
I shouldn't have replied like that earlier, that was a mistake so please ignore it.
You'd have to listen to the song to hear the notes don't match up normally, or clash, or whatever. I think the clashing notes symbolize that they don't like what they're describing. I don't think anyone likes those things. 'Musically hideous' was supposed to mean something like, "both bad and good", but 'Musically' doesn't exactly mean 'Like good music'. It's really hard to explain : )
Kisekikui 6 months ago
Yeah, sorry for the way I responded, too e-e
I can be completely rude sometimes. (Most of the time)
Anyway, I find... clashing notes very... irritable.. And I listen to some pretty irritating music xD
momsbaby9112 6 months ago
@Kisekikui i agree
i think this song rules
it sounds really out of it in a way
but its good
my favourite vocaloid song :D
Vloshry 6 months ago
@Kisekikui Hey, is the composer well known? If it's some well known artist, it's pretty much a given that everything on this song was on purpose. Otherwise, only people that like to either look deeper into a song or find an excuse to not face the true will like this song.
However, on another note, that screeching problem is gone if you JUST lower the volume a little bit. Then it doesn't hurt the ears, and they sound pretty relaxed.
dinasty123123 5 months ago
@dinasty123123
I'm not sure whether or not the composer is well known, but I know that it's the same person who created Reverse Rainbow, which was popular a while back. After listening to that song, it's apparent that Sunzriver knows how to make a sweet-sounding song, meaning that the dissonance here was on purpose. You can also tell by the style of the video, which was made to look like bad quality.
Kisekikui 5 months ago
@momsbaby9112 well just because you find it ugly doesn't mean everyone does. I like it, and look at the comments, I'm not the only one
missdizzy523 5 months ago
Hey. Um.
We already resolved it. People need to check the rest before they comment.
And I understand that.
momsbaby9112 5 months ago
@momsbaby9112 then why the fuck is it in your playlist?
OoOPinkCheetahOoO 5 months ago
@Awookado Screeching? I think their tuning is done in a very down-to-earth way, personally and reflects the spirit of the song. Rin's voice is alright imo. They sound independent of each other yet cannot separate from each other. Try listening to the song imagining either Rin or Len not singing their notes and it will show. You cannot have life without the highs nor lows.
Echo591 1 year ago 51
@Awookado this is a lot better than plenty of twin's songs
Shonengirl595 8 months ago
Thanks for translating all this stuff !!
shinekishm 1 year ago
is that sign language?
cause I can see some signs I know
I'm learning American sign language
so I was just wondering...
misticareina 1 year ago
@misticareina it's Japanese Sign Language
AnimeDrawer18 1 year ago
@AnimeDrawer18 awesome!!!!! funny just today I have an assignment to looked up a song and sign the song for the class, maybe I'll use this one XP
misticareina 1 year ago
@misticareina You should totally do this one!! x3
AnimeDrawer18 1 year ago
I like this one! thx for the translation kiseki! ^^
ragedzai 1 year ago