These men -- Jim Garrison, Mark Lane, Anthony Bolden -- are true American heroes. This country cannot regain its greatness until JFK's murder is admitted and those who participated and are still alive are brought to justice.
There are WAY too many coincidences involving the action and inaction of agents Roberts, Kellerman, and Greer on 11/22/63 to discount ANY theory that alleges that elements of the Secret Service murdered JFK. Much research has been done on the subject and, unfortunately, a reasonably well-documented argument has been produce from multiple researchers. The extant Zapruder Film shows behavior on the part of Greer that fits a pattern of evidence supporting a close-range head shot, period.
...apparent secret surgery to JFK's head, "namely in the top of the skull", as the FBI described it. Greer kept JFK's clothing locked in his locker in the White House Garage, confiscated undeveloped film, x-rays, and tissues from the procedure in Bethesda. The FBI later recorded his physical description in their interview. Greer then denied he saw JFK at all during the assassination and that he only looked back once. The source of all of this information is the so-called Warren Report. Read it.
Greer's second turn is timed perfectly and his left hand appears as though he is drawing a handgun. Eyewitnesses heard and saw a handgun fired in or near JFK's car at the moment the limo slowed / stopped. The Parkland doctors originally reported a left temporal entrance wound and a blowout to the back of the head caused by "a high velocity handgun fired at close range". Greer stole JFK's corpse from Dallas and stayed "with the body, always with the body", including...
Exiles800 Then your work here is finished and you can shut up. Nuts ignore evidence that offend their preconceptions. "Murder From Within" will soon be published. I suggest you buy it.
That's all your opinion, and it's incoherent. Like I said, you should shut up and leave the investigation of this crime to people who can read and write. If you refuse to shut up, and remain incoherent, it becomes obvious that you are a disinformationist troll.
What Greer shooter advocates are trying to get us to believe is Greer thought he could turn and shoot JFK in front of dozens of witnesses and not get caught. It just doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense that Nelly would not detect a handgun going off less than 3 feet from her face. You can expose these nuts by seeing how they don't dare mention any silencer. They know they couldn't get away with that because it would be too big.
@Exiles800 Allright. Now, instead of answering my questions, you're going to paraphrase on my behalf? Let me reiterate: Eyewitness testimony corroborates the theory that Greer allegedly shot JFK. "Get caught" is a very subjective term. Who are you proposing would be the authority to "catch" him? Nelly? How could it be proven that Greer shot JFK if Greer stole the body and clothing from the Dallas coronor, washed out the limo, oversaw "surgery of the head", lied during the investigation...
...all of this within the context of the clear malfeasance of the Secret Service on 11/22/63 (see Palamara) and the immediate "cover story" of the lone nut. The "lone nut" conspiracy was presented immediately by the major media and the government to thwart any other theory, including a Secret Service plot. Research "Murder From Within" and the other studies so that you are more competent in the matter, vs speaking in broad general terms.
@Exiles800 And, no. The theory is not that Greer planned to assassinate JFK ahead of time. If you actually took the time to read Doug Horne's book "Inside the AARB", Volumes IV and V, you will note that the contemporary theory is that Greer was ordered to do this as a last resort, given that the snipers had failed to execute a "kill" shot and the limo was about to depart the plaza. The plotters could not afford failure and thus, risked detection. This theory fits perfectly with...
...Greer's abhorred driving behavior on Elm street. He slowed to enable a clear shot by the assassins and turned to look at JFK to verify success. When success was not evident, he stopped, turned a second time, and fired. This is what the Zapruder film suggests and why he perjured himself when he testified that he did not see JFK and only turned once. Antagonists of this theory will tell you what you are seeing in the film is wrong. A disinformationist statement if there ever was one.
Anyone reading this please take note, this argument from @Exiles800, or any proxy, will continue because antagonists of the theory cannot allow it to stand, despite the fact that they believe it idiotic. Well, if it is so idiotic, why argue with it? The answer, of course, is because preventing people from even considering the theory is paramount to preventing them from reviewing the evidence that does indeed exists. Again research Newcomb / Adams, Robertson, Palamara, and Horne's work.
One more thing about "taking advantage of the coincidental timing of the head shot". This is not the only evidence, although viewing this should cause concern, especially now that the recently "stabilized" Zapruder film shows Greer pointing his left hand at JFK. See user "GerdaDunckel" version of the film. Again, RESEARCH illustrates corroborating evidence that a Secret Service plot involving Roberts, Kellerman, and Greer was plausible. Why are you refusing to read and comment on the books?
Since you have ignored the logic in my answer, and you have ignored the eyewitness testimony that DOES corroborate the theory, an objective reader would probably say that you've lost the argument on this point. I guess that's why your forced to hurl insults now? It's this weak and offensive position that gives away the fact that you are not logic-based and probably here as a disinformationist.
@Exiles800 OK. But in my view, a "nut" is someone who ignores crucial questions and evidence like those I have asked of you, in favor of opinion or fantasy. I'm going to take it then that you don't have a response to the questions I've raised and therefore, you don't car about logic and you don't know what you are talking about, except to insult people who have done their homework. This is known as the "ad hominem fallacy"--if you can't attack the theory, attack the theorist. Very weak.
@Exiles800 Well, we now have your definition of substance. If you deem thousands of pages with citations to evidence in the "official" report unsubstantive, you've shown your cards as either illogical or dishonest. Nelly Connally was the spouse of a politician who was also in the car, shot during the attack, and who's career and survival depended upon statements consistent with that of the "official" report, that went out immediately. I think you're being very evasive in your counter-argument.
Therefore, your counter-argument that "Nellie would have talked." is unrealistic, improbable, and possibly even impossible. The fact that you are ignoring other eyewitness testimony is also telling. Finally, let's not forget that this is all within the context of testimony that was guided and cherry picked and taken in secret. If elements of the government were involved at the highest level, and I assume your agree on this, why would any clear testimony be available to satisfy you?
@Exiles800 In conclusion, Nelly and the other occupants of the limo may have seen Greer fire, but had every incentive not to testify publicly to that effect. Further, those taking such testimony had every incentive to distort or ignore that which was counter to the "lone nut". How can you argue with a position as self-evident and so thoroughly documented as that? Given your lack of response thus far, I don't think you can or will.
@ehpitcher I can tell you from watching Nelly's body language on Larry King that she wasn't holding back any deep dark national secret. You, sir, are a lunatic. JFK was killed by CIA conspiracy, treason, and coup d'etat of the military right. Read James Douglass's book 'JFK And The Unspeakable'. You CIA pigs out there, I hope you're reading this. Your justice is coming and we're going to deliver it. This country and its Constitution will not be betrayed without serious cost.
@Exiles800 What is lunacy is to expect that an eyewitness to the assassination of the POTUS, who was splattered with the blood and brain matter of the most powerful man on earth, would go on national television and contradict the official myth laid out by the major US media and the US Government. Fools chase smoke up the knoll while ATSAIC Roberts, SAIC Kellerman, and SA Greer murder the president, steal and alter evidence, and then serve as the government's expert witnesses during a...
@Exiles800 ...mock trial designed specifically to blame someone else. Yes, I have read Douglass' work, twice. Have you read 'Murder From Within' by Newcomb and Adams. Have you read 'Inside the AARB' by Doug Horne? Those two works span 40 years of research from 1969-2009 and point to SA Greer as a probable or possible assassin as part of a wider Secret Service plot. Why would you remain indignant toward matters you have failed to study? Ever heard of the Praetorian Guard?
@pitcher That's a lot of nice grand colorful talk but it doesn't really answer the point. You're forgetting that Nelly did go on TV and dispute the claimed official story. So are you now sculpting the circumstances to try to say Nelly challenged the single bullet in order to divert attention from the Greer shot? Where does that end? Even if Greer was under instructions to not let Kennedy out alive there's better more subtle ways of doing that than letting dozens of people and cameras witness it.
@Exiles800 Where you give yourself away in your grandiose verbosity is you say "the plotters could not afford to fail so they risked detection." You're ignoring the fact that if they were detected then they would have 'failed' - just like your wack theory did right here. It's a ridiculous theory that could have been done so many other ways than this stupid shooting in the open in public craziness.
@Exiles800 I am sorry that you do not like it when people write well. The fact remains that Greer's actions are timed perfectly with the fatal head shot--and that eyewitnesses claimed to hear or see a handgun fired--that doctors attending JFK at parkland reported a wound that had the characteristics of a "high velocity handgun fired at close range"--that Greer stole JFK's corpse from the Dallas coroner--that Greer supervised secret "surgery to the head" of JFK--stole JFK's clothing...
@Exiles800 ...and locked it in his locker in the White House garage--that he "stayed with the body, always with the body" until it prepared for burial and sealed in a casket and placed under guard in the White House--that he, along with Roy Kellerman confiscated undeveloped forensic fim, x-rays, and tissue from the dead president--that the FBI recorded his physical description in their report, as if he was a suspect--that he perjured himself in his testimony, saying he did not see JFK and...
@Exiles800 ...that he only turned back once, never slowing or stopping the limo on Elm Street--you get the idea, don't you? It sounds like although you believe in conspiracy, you have FAILED to read the investigative reports contained within the books 'Murder From Within', 'Survivor's Guilt', 'Definitive Proof: The Secret Service Murder of President John F. Kennedy', and 'Inside the AARB'. You at an extreme disadvantage in this discussion. Do your research or shut up.
@ehpitcher Nice snake-oil pitch, but no. You didn't answer the Nelly point. You fail. Greer's motions are too fast for an aimed handgun shot. He would have to graze Connally's face and it is unlikely he would have taken such a relaxed shot with the gun on his right shoulder. All you are doing is brainwashing yourself with your repeated Greer shooter mantra and using it to invent handgun witnessing the witnesses never saw. Nelly's body language is not that of covering-up this treasonous shot.
@Exiles800 Also, how can any single eyewitness have seen both Greer and Kennedy at the same time during the split second period of the fatal head shot? Eyewitnesses claimed that they saw Kennedy being shot. Eyewitnesses also claimed to have heard the "sound of a handgun fired into a hard object", saw shots coming from "right there in the car", and that "secret service men were shooting back" or "returning fire". You need to research this matter more thoroughly before you comment further.
@scorpio888 Exactly. Evidence exists and is contained within the works of American literature I referred you to. Your apparent faith that this was impossible is admirable, yet it is only your opinion. Do you have anything more specific to refute the claim?
Fact: Agents of the Secret Service failed and then immediately took over the investigation on 11/22/63, stealing the prima facie evidence. Study the actions of SAIC Kellerman, ATSAIC Roberts and SA Greer. "Murder From Within" by Newcomb and Adams, is an unpublished manuscript sent to members of congress and law enforcement officials 1974 outlining the results of their 5 year study: These agent's murdered JFK and then altered the body and other key evidence. The more you learn, the worse it gets.
Frame 312 shows Greer with his left hand on the steering wheel and no gun. Kennedy's head explodes in frame 313. If you zoom-in on Greer in frame 313 both his hands are still on the steering wheel. That theory is nuts and only serves to diminish good researchers. Good on Bolden. He was framed by those gov't state security fascist pigs and did 3 years in jail. Good on Lane too. He's timing this perfectly for a last word on Kennedy's CIA fascist murderers prior to the 50th anniversary.
Are you sure? The Zapruder film I have seen shows his left hand OFF the wheel and drawn toward JFK. Film aside, are you aware of the eyewitness testimony and medical evidence that corroborates a shot from Greer? Why would Greer turn TWICE, and why would ANY of this evidence exist? Why would he have the privilege of "staying with the body, always with the body" until sealed for burial? Have you read Doug Horne's book? You might want to do more research before you make such definitive comments.
@ehpitcher Greer turned because both JFK and Connally had been shot and were crying out. You have to be nuts if you think with all the people so close to the scene that no one would have missed Greer turn and blow JFK's brains out with a gun. Especially Nelly who was right there.
@ehpitcher Jackie and Connally were both crying out. Your logic is feeble and trollish. You're not worth answering. Greer was turning his head because his job was presidential protection and your group is taking advantage of coincidental timing with the head shot. People like you are generally considered ban-able nuts by the credible JFK Assassination Community. How do you explain Nelly missing Greer shooting JFK only feet away? (You can't, so you enter the crap above instead)
@Exiles800 You raise a good point. Actually, any "credible JFK Assassination Community" would not ban an evidence-based argument. And bear in mind that this is not "my" argument. I've simply researched through reading some findings of credible researchers like Newcomb / Adams, Palamara, and Horne. Doug Horne was a US Government researcher on the staff of the AARB. You think he should be "banned" because his view is offensive to you. What you are condoning is called censorship. Are you a fascist?
Regarding Nelly, I can't force you to acknowledge that this has been answered but I can repeat my answer in simpler terms. How could she have seen Greer allegedly shoot JFK if she was not looking at him? Further, to see Greer shoot JFK, wouldn't she have to be looking at both men at the same time? How could she have done that from her position. Eyewitnesses claimed to have seen an agent "shooting back". Therefore, the assumption was that they were shooting toward an assailant. There's more...
@Exiles800 And more specifically, who was looking at JFK and Greer at the same time during Fram 312? To observe Greer allegedly shooting JFK, one would need to be looking at both men during the split second the shot was fired. It is self evident that most witnesses would only be looking at JFK, right?
@Exiles800 Another fact to consider in the crime when we discuss the available evidence that points to Greer: The very individuals who were directly responsible for the greatest failure in the history of presidential protection immediately seized the majority of the evidence of that failure and controlled its dissemination, after blatant alteration in some cases. Some was NEVER furnished to any other authority.This fact is detailed in an evidence flow chart included in "Murder From Within".
@scorpio888 Oh, really? What research and evidence refutes this claim? "Murder From Within", "Definitive Proof: The Secret Service Murder of President John F. Kennedy", and "Inside The AARB" all make a pretty strong case for it, along with supplemental information from "Survivor's Guilt". In five years of my own research I've never seen anything that effectively refutes it. All I have seen are expressions of opinion by antagonists who ignore real evidence of a theory that offends them.
It is obvious to most that "The Kennedy Detail" was written to counter Vince Palamara's findings. The verdict? Blaine FAILED, as his friends did in Dallas. BRAVO to Mr Lane and Mr Bolden
Umbrella Man gave the signal that it was all clear, Kennedy was surely dead, and the driver finally hit the gas again. Jackie wanted out of that car for a very good reason. That first shot that came from the TSBD was just to get everyone's attention, and make people think that the gunMAN was there. The shot was merely a warning signal; it missed intentionally. The other 6-8 bullets fired came from the hit teams and the driver.
It was a CIA/Pentagon operation. The driver was one of the gunmen. Watch the Zapruder film and zoom it in on the driver. He held the steering wheel in his right hand, and held a small black gun in his left hand. He slowed the car down. He looked back and saw that JFK was still alive. Jackie was looking towards Connelly. The driver then faced front again. He waited a second, then looked back and saw that Jackie was looking down at her husband. You see his thumb come up on the trigger and boom.
Wow! Powerful stuff. Looking forward to this film.
In this day and age... there really is no way any rational minded person can deny the evidence which is so completely and totally overwhelming of a conspiracy that it simply cannot be denied!
AT LAST! A new film looking at the assassination of JFK... Can't wait to see that. The only problem, is that everyone that still seem to think that Oswald did it, won't want to see it, therefore they will start protesting it?
@punksterdaddy I have been checking in from time to time, in an effort at finding anything about when this film will be available, or where to look. It's now mid 2011. anyone have any updates....? Also please check out the 3 repressed Men Who Killed Kennedy. #7, #8, and #9.. That have recently been posted on the You Tube.
Thanks for sharing this information here & allowing comments too. All the pictures show JFK's car had no SS agents attached, other than in front, but LBJ's car looks like a Roman phalanx.
I remember seeing video showing JFK's car stopping, but I can't find it now. I think I remember seeing Gov Connally saying " I hate to disagree with the Warren Commission, but they weren't there." I can not find that now either.
Will Lane investigate Israel mossad & David Ben Gurion's involvement?
As to Mr. Bolden - It may be very easy for a white person to say, but if I were black and somebody called me a n----r, I would use reverse psychology and say, "Why thank you, that is an amazing compliment coming from the likes of you". Like I said, it may be easy for a white man to say, though. I haven't had to hear it every day my whole life. Can't wait to see the show, too. Peace.
Rufus Youngblood the agent for LBJ was sitting in front of him & after the first shot was fired Youngblood jumped back and knocked Johnson to the floor of the car. The agent sitting in front of the President never moved & no one knows who he is.
Abraham Bolden is a class act. I do wish the story he told about his supervisor ended with Bolden punching him the the mouth. History will look favorably on Mr. Bolden.
@WALRU11 rubbush they did arrest a guy in chicago, and he was in jail when JFK was going to visit. ZERO proof of any plot. look you idiot he cancelled the visit because of Diem.
Typical conspiracy idiot listens to an excon and taks his word as fact. this is what you idiot do over and over again. it keeps the hoax alive for you.
@45arther LIsten, stupid. Research before you write. Vallee was arrested + 2 of 4 anti-Castro Cubans according to FBI, SS, & Chicago PD reports - confirmed by Chicago SS chief Maurice Martineau's congressional testimony. As the coup against Diem was planned for 11-2, JFK was scheduled to be out of DC. When Lodge turned it bloody AND a plot to kill JFK was reported, then, of course, the trip was cancelled. The site shifted to FL where Joe Milteer revealed the same plot, which was then foiled.
@WALRU11 oswald hit 97 shots out of 100 from 200 yards in the marines.
you just said he fired 3 impeccable shots. Bullshit. you are making that up. typical nut. he hit JFk in the head 1 out of 3 shots from 88 yards or less.
the shots have ben duplicated in alot less time. right on youtube
you like the usual conspiracy nut are talking out of your ass. the dumbing down of america
@45arther FYI, you revisionist idiot: LHO was such a poor shot he was singled out for special training in order to permit him to pass the minimum marksmanship requirements. 2nd, the rifle claimed to be his, had a faulty scope. 3rd, there is not ONE piece of legally admissable evidence to support his firing any, let alone 3 shots that day. 4th, the frontal head shot - via bullet & Newton's 2nd Law - snapped JFK's head back @ 120 mph. 5th LHO was seen in the 2nd floor TSBD b4 & after the shots
@45arther I didn't say LHO fired. I said YOU believe it. As for alleged "impeccable" shots, count them: 1 hit JFK in the back @ a downward angle, too far below his neck to have exited his throat. A separate shot hit Connally, as he always contended, & a 3rd shot hit JFK in the head. But your theory falls apart as James Teague was struck by a concrete chip from a missed shot & JFK was shot from the front in the throat & head + 4 other bullets were recovered from Dealey Plaza. You lose.
@45arther Incidentally, you near-illiterate, it's Charles "Manson" with an "n," & he never said he was framed, although solid evidence exists that he was "behaviorally modified" under the CIA's MKULTRA program while at Terminal Island, one of the prison facilities contracted with the agency for inmate conditioning via chemical & hypnotic programming under an experimental black op brainwashing program proposed (unbeknownst to the Kennedy brothers) to prison wardens by the CIA in April of 1961.
@WALRU11 i guess there is no sense in me talkig to an insane person like you. After what you said about Manson, I just hope you get some help. Good luck.
@45arther More accurately, you're not qualified to speak with me as your pathetically ignorant posts attest. When each of your foolish illusions was disproven by my stated facts, you either tried to shift the argument or resorted to the logical fallacy of ad hominem attack. You live in denial, gullibly swallowing the comfortable myths your mass media handlers feed you, lacking courage & integrity to question your controllers. Truth threatens you. You can't face the terror of reality. Sad.
@45arther U R invited to my banquet entitled, "East St. Louis Pioneers: Taking the Time to Smell Their Roses". Please contact me at erimon2@yahoo.com/ 314-327-4161 before 1-29-11. Thanks. It is a upscale banquet that will honor 2 legendary pioneers ( Mr. Abraham W. Bolden, Sr. and Sam "Bay" Taylor) that paved the way for us. It will 2-5-11 from 6-8pm. A donation will be collected. RSVP by 1-29-11 at 314-327-4161 erimon2@yahoo.com. A press conf @ 4-4:30 in Council Chambers. Dinner as well.
Abraham Bolden is an authentic American hero who prevented JFK's assassination in Chicago, scheduled for Nov. 2, 1963. The plot involved 4 anti-Castro Cuban marksmen who would shoot Kennedy as his limousine slowed to a virtual standstil having negotiated a hairpin turn. The chosen patsy for the kiillng was Thomas Arthur Vallee, like Oswald, an ex-Marine misifit with alleged intelligence connections. Bolden kept JFK alive for another 20 days until the conspirators moved the site to Dallas.
This is incredible stuff! I can't wait to see the entire movie. I've always had nothing less than the utmost respect for Mark Lane. "Rush To Judgment" was one of the first books I ever read about the assassination. It is second to none, and it totally unpolluted by anything which has come since, because it's one of the earliest to have been written.
@45arther -- It appears that you made an account just so that you could try to start arguments with people. That's a fact. Give us some citations, so we can all take a look at the "facts" that Mark Lane is a liar.
I am encouraged to see this movie being presented when the people are being fooled by propaganda again. It is our duty as citizens to think smart, view all the information and understand we were lied to. Then DO SOMETHING! Demand justice.
@VincePalamara Ditto That.....I am so excited to see Lane active again. God Bless Mark Lane, He started the engine shortly after Dallas. I wish someone could floor this buggy.
@IwshIcldstrtover - You sure he isn't an evil doer ? Maybe he's a communist and an evil doer. That would make him 2 bogeymen in one. You're a first class retard.
Any JFK documentary needs to have: Jim Douglass, James DiEugenio, Jim Marrs, and Dr. James Fetzer. And show that even Olympic level (NRA Expert-level) shooters failed to be able to make the shots that LHO supposedly made when he barely passed the lowest qualification level for his military service--he was a very poor shot.
@RepublicConstitution who shot Kennedy is not that important. What is in this documentary is and has been here since 22November1963 - that is the Secret Service Agents did nothing to help Kennedy when the shots rang out. That in addition to the lax security in general, the route, the other Agents inaction, Greers slowing of the limousine and the destruction of evidence. ( the limousine was immediately washed out )
@presorted5678 I already know all of that and so does anyone else who has ever performed even minimal research into JFK. I was talking about experts that should be interviewed in documentaries on the subject and did not talk about "who" shot Kennedy but rather "who" did NOT shoot JFK. Obviously I will watch this film as well regardless. I respect Lane and Bolden.
A Man of Intetegrity............ Thank You Mr. Bolden
Tonyconner74 1 week ago
Bravo Abraham Bolden
bushcraft1970 1 month ago
Lane implying a conspiracy while Bolden causing it ineptness referring to the secret service agent not reacting in the vehicle. Which do you believe?
GregWn 1 month ago
@GregWn both
bushcraft1970 1 month ago
YT - "JFK Secret service stand-down". Says it all.
offwiththefairies77 2 months ago
The working title is A RUSH TO JUDGMENT and it's currently in post production with anticipated 2012 release.
marco310b 3 months ago
Does anyone know what the full title of this will be and where I can see it?
UNIQUE1982 3 months ago
These men -- Jim Garrison, Mark Lane, Anthony Bolden -- are true American heroes. This country cannot regain its greatness until JFK's murder is admitted and those who participated and are still alive are brought to justice.
MarinaHill 3 months ago 2
Get Mark Lane's new book "Last Word": outstanding!
VincePalamara 3 months ago
Is the film out?
robbiehuntfortruth 3 months ago
Get Mark Lane's new book "Last Word": outstanding!
VincePalamara 3 months ago
@VincePalamara Vince, is there a source for purchasing your out-of-circulation books? Thanks.
GregWn 3 months ago
@GregWn thanks. they are available for free online. see my channel main page (the links) :O)
VincePalamara 3 months ago
There are WAY too many coincidences involving the action and inaction of agents Roberts, Kellerman, and Greer on 11/22/63 to discount ANY theory that alleges that elements of the Secret Service murdered JFK. Much research has been done on the subject and, unfortunately, a reasonably well-documented argument has been produce from multiple researchers. The extant Zapruder Film shows behavior on the part of Greer that fits a pattern of evidence supporting a close-range head shot, period.
ehpitcher 4 months ago
...apparent secret surgery to JFK's head, "namely in the top of the skull", as the FBI described it. Greer kept JFK's clothing locked in his locker in the White House Garage, confiscated undeveloped film, x-rays, and tissues from the procedure in Bethesda. The FBI later recorded his physical description in their interview. Greer then denied he saw JFK at all during the assassination and that he only looked back once. The source of all of this information is the so-called Warren Report. Read it.
ehpitcher 4 months ago
Greer's second turn is timed perfectly and his left hand appears as though he is drawing a handgun. Eyewitnesses heard and saw a handgun fired in or near JFK's car at the moment the limo slowed / stopped. The Parkland doctors originally reported a left temporal entrance wound and a blowout to the back of the head caused by "a high velocity handgun fired at close range". Greer stole JFK's corpse from Dallas and stayed "with the body, always with the body", including...
ehpitcher 4 months ago
Exiles800 Then your work here is finished and you can shut up. Nuts ignore evidence that offend their preconceptions. "Murder From Within" will soon be published. I suggest you buy it.
ehpitcher 4 months ago
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ehpitcher 5 months ago
That's all your opinion, and it's incoherent. Like I said, you should shut up and leave the investigation of this crime to people who can read and write. If you refuse to shut up, and remain incoherent, it becomes obvious that you are a disinformationist troll.
ehpitcher 5 months ago
@ehpitcher If you think Greer shot Kennedy you're a certifiable nut. Nobody's buying your crap.
Exiles800 4 months ago
What Greer shooter advocates are trying to get us to believe is Greer thought he could turn and shoot JFK in front of dozens of witnesses and not get caught. It just doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense that Nelly would not detect a handgun going off less than 3 feet from her face. You can expose these nuts by seeing how they don't dare mention any silencer. They know they couldn't get away with that because it would be too big.
Exiles800 5 months ago
@Exiles800 Allright. Now, instead of answering my questions, you're going to paraphrase on my behalf? Let me reiterate: Eyewitness testimony corroborates the theory that Greer allegedly shot JFK. "Get caught" is a very subjective term. Who are you proposing would be the authority to "catch" him? Nelly? How could it be proven that Greer shot JFK if Greer stole the body and clothing from the Dallas coronor, washed out the limo, oversaw "surgery of the head", lied during the investigation...
ehpitcher 5 months ago
...all of this within the context of the clear malfeasance of the Secret Service on 11/22/63 (see Palamara) and the immediate "cover story" of the lone nut. The "lone nut" conspiracy was presented immediately by the major media and the government to thwart any other theory, including a Secret Service plot. Research "Murder From Within" and the other studies so that you are more competent in the matter, vs speaking in broad general terms.
ehpitcher 5 months ago
@Exiles800 And, no. The theory is not that Greer planned to assassinate JFK ahead of time. If you actually took the time to read Doug Horne's book "Inside the AARB", Volumes IV and V, you will note that the contemporary theory is that Greer was ordered to do this as a last resort, given that the snipers had failed to execute a "kill" shot and the limo was about to depart the plaza. The plotters could not afford failure and thus, risked detection. This theory fits perfectly with...
ehpitcher 5 months ago
...Greer's abhorred driving behavior on Elm street. He slowed to enable a clear shot by the assassins and turned to look at JFK to verify success. When success was not evident, he stopped, turned a second time, and fired. This is what the Zapruder film suggests and why he perjured himself when he testified that he did not see JFK and only turned once. Antagonists of this theory will tell you what you are seeing in the film is wrong. A disinformationist statement if there ever was one.
ehpitcher 5 months ago
Anyone reading this please take note, this argument from @Exiles800, or any proxy, will continue because antagonists of the theory cannot allow it to stand, despite the fact that they believe it idiotic. Well, if it is so idiotic, why argue with it? The answer, of course, is because preventing people from even considering the theory is paramount to preventing them from reviewing the evidence that does indeed exists. Again research Newcomb / Adams, Robertson, Palamara, and Horne's work.
ehpitcher 5 months ago
One more thing about "taking advantage of the coincidental timing of the head shot". This is not the only evidence, although viewing this should cause concern, especially now that the recently "stabilized" Zapruder film shows Greer pointing his left hand at JFK. See user "GerdaDunckel" version of the film. Again, RESEARCH illustrates corroborating evidence that a Secret Service plot involving Roberts, Kellerman, and Greer was plausible. Why are you refusing to read and comment on the books?
ehpitcher 5 months ago
Since you have ignored the logic in my answer, and you have ignored the eyewitness testimony that DOES corroborate the theory, an objective reader would probably say that you've lost the argument on this point. I guess that's why your forced to hurl insults now? It's this weak and offensive position that gives away the fact that you are not logic-based and probably here as a disinformationist.
ehpitcher 5 months ago
Ignore any nuts who say Greer shot JFK.
Exiles800 5 months ago
@Exiles800 OK. But in my view, a "nut" is someone who ignores crucial questions and evidence like those I have asked of you, in favor of opinion or fantasy. I'm going to take it then that you don't have a response to the questions I've raised and therefore, you don't car about logic and you don't know what you are talking about, except to insult people who have done their homework. This is known as the "ad hominem fallacy"--if you can't attack the theory, attack the theorist. Very weak.
ehpitcher 5 months ago
@ehpitcher Lots of words but little substance. Try missing a handgun going off less than 3 feet from your head.
Exiles800 5 months ago
@Exiles800 Well, we now have your definition of substance. If you deem thousands of pages with citations to evidence in the "official" report unsubstantive, you've shown your cards as either illogical or dishonest. Nelly Connally was the spouse of a politician who was also in the car, shot during the attack, and who's career and survival depended upon statements consistent with that of the "official" report, that went out immediately. I think you're being very evasive in your counter-argument.
ehpitcher 5 months ago
Therefore, your counter-argument that "Nellie would have talked." is unrealistic, improbable, and possibly even impossible. The fact that you are ignoring other eyewitness testimony is also telling. Finally, let's not forget that this is all within the context of testimony that was guided and cherry picked and taken in secret. If elements of the government were involved at the highest level, and I assume your agree on this, why would any clear testimony be available to satisfy you?
ehpitcher 5 months ago
@Exiles800 In conclusion, Nelly and the other occupants of the limo may have seen Greer fire, but had every incentive not to testify publicly to that effect. Further, those taking such testimony had every incentive to distort or ignore that which was counter to the "lone nut". How can you argue with a position as self-evident and so thoroughly documented as that? Given your lack of response thus far, I don't think you can or will.
ehpitcher 5 months ago
@ehpitcher I can tell you from watching Nelly's body language on Larry King that she wasn't holding back any deep dark national secret. You, sir, are a lunatic. JFK was killed by CIA conspiracy, treason, and coup d'etat of the military right. Read James Douglass's book 'JFK And The Unspeakable'. You CIA pigs out there, I hope you're reading this. Your justice is coming and we're going to deliver it. This country and its Constitution will not be betrayed without serious cost.
Exiles800 5 months ago
@Exiles800 What is lunacy is to expect that an eyewitness to the assassination of the POTUS, who was splattered with the blood and brain matter of the most powerful man on earth, would go on national television and contradict the official myth laid out by the major US media and the US Government. Fools chase smoke up the knoll while ATSAIC Roberts, SAIC Kellerman, and SA Greer murder the president, steal and alter evidence, and then serve as the government's expert witnesses during a...
ehpitcher 5 months ago
@Exiles800 ...mock trial designed specifically to blame someone else. Yes, I have read Douglass' work, twice. Have you read 'Murder From Within' by Newcomb and Adams. Have you read 'Inside the AARB' by Doug Horne? Those two works span 40 years of research from 1969-2009 and point to SA Greer as a probable or possible assassin as part of a wider Secret Service plot. Why would you remain indignant toward matters you have failed to study? Ever heard of the Praetorian Guard?
ehpitcher 5 months ago
@pitcher That's a lot of nice grand colorful talk but it doesn't really answer the point. You're forgetting that Nelly did go on TV and dispute the claimed official story. So are you now sculpting the circumstances to try to say Nelly challenged the single bullet in order to divert attention from the Greer shot? Where does that end? Even if Greer was under instructions to not let Kennedy out alive there's better more subtle ways of doing that than letting dozens of people and cameras witness it.
Exiles800 5 months ago
@Exiles800 Where you give yourself away in your grandiose verbosity is you say "the plotters could not afford to fail so they risked detection." You're ignoring the fact that if they were detected then they would have 'failed' - just like your wack theory did right here. It's a ridiculous theory that could have been done so many other ways than this stupid shooting in the open in public craziness.
Exiles800 5 months ago
@Exiles800 I am sorry that you do not like it when people write well. The fact remains that Greer's actions are timed perfectly with the fatal head shot--and that eyewitnesses claimed to hear or see a handgun fired--that doctors attending JFK at parkland reported a wound that had the characteristics of a "high velocity handgun fired at close range"--that Greer stole JFK's corpse from the Dallas coroner--that Greer supervised secret "surgery to the head" of JFK--stole JFK's clothing...
ehpitcher 5 months ago
@Exiles800 ...and locked it in his locker in the White House garage--that he "stayed with the body, always with the body" until it prepared for burial and sealed in a casket and placed under guard in the White House--that he, along with Roy Kellerman confiscated undeveloped forensic fim, x-rays, and tissue from the dead president--that the FBI recorded his physical description in their report, as if he was a suspect--that he perjured himself in his testimony, saying he did not see JFK and...
ehpitcher 5 months ago
@Exiles800 ...that he only turned back once, never slowing or stopping the limo on Elm Street--you get the idea, don't you? It sounds like although you believe in conspiracy, you have FAILED to read the investigative reports contained within the books 'Murder From Within', 'Survivor's Guilt', 'Definitive Proof: The Secret Service Murder of President John F. Kennedy', and 'Inside the AARB'. You at an extreme disadvantage in this discussion. Do your research or shut up.
ehpitcher 5 months ago
@ehpitcher Nice snake-oil pitch, but no. You didn't answer the Nelly point. You fail. Greer's motions are too fast for an aimed handgun shot. He would have to graze Connally's face and it is unlikely he would have taken such a relaxed shot with the gun on his right shoulder. All you are doing is brainwashing yourself with your repeated Greer shooter mantra and using it to invent handgun witnessing the witnesses never saw. Nelly's body language is not that of covering-up this treasonous shot.
Exiles800 5 months ago
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@ehpitcher The evidence that the driver did NOT shoot JFK in part comes from your obvious psychopathology.
Goddamn you and your attempts to hurt the credibility of the conspiracy scenario by tossing in this "driver-did-it" crap...
The CIA hopefully pays you well.
scorpio888 5 months ago
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@ehpitcher The evidence that the driver did NOT shoot JFK in part comes from your obvious psychopathology.
Goddamn you and your attempts to hurt the credibility of the conspiracy scenario by tossing in this "driver-did-it" crap...
The CIA hopefully pays you well.
scorpio888 5 months ago
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@ehpitcher The evidence that the driver did NOT shoot JFK in part comes from your obvious psychopathology.
Goddamn you and your attempts to hurt the credibility of the conspiracy scenario by tossing in this "driver-did-it" crap...
The CIA hopefully pays you well.
scorpio888 5 months ago
@ehpitcher The evidence that the driver did NOT shoot JFK in part comes from your obvious psychopathology.
Goddamn you and your attempts to hurt the credibility of the conspiracy scenario by tossing in this "driver-did-it" crap...
The CIA hopefully pays you well.
scorpio888 5 months ago
@Exiles800 Also, how can any single eyewitness have seen both Greer and Kennedy at the same time during the split second period of the fatal head shot? Eyewitnesses claimed that they saw Kennedy being shot. Eyewitnesses also claimed to have heard the "sound of a handgun fired into a hard object", saw shots coming from "right there in the car", and that "secret service men were shooting back" or "returning fire". You need to research this matter more thoroughly before you comment further.
ehpitcher 5 months ago
@ehpitcher "Who ignore" WHAT "evidence that offends them"?? The "evidence" that the driver supposedly shot JFK??
You idiot. The driver did NOT shoot Kennedy!
scorpio888 5 months ago
@scorpio888 Exactly. Evidence exists and is contained within the works of American literature I referred you to. Your apparent faith that this was impossible is admirable, yet it is only your opinion. Do you have anything more specific to refute the claim?
ehpitcher 5 months ago
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@ehpitcher The evidence that the driver did NOT shoot JFK in part comes from your obvious psychopathology.
Goddamn you and your attempts to hurt the credibility of the conspiracy scenario by tossing in this "driver-did-it" crap...
The CIA hopefully pays you well.
scorpio888 5 months ago
Fact: Agents of the Secret Service failed and then immediately took over the investigation on 11/22/63, stealing the prima facie evidence. Study the actions of SAIC Kellerman, ATSAIC Roberts and SA Greer. "Murder From Within" by Newcomb and Adams, is an unpublished manuscript sent to members of congress and law enforcement officials 1974 outlining the results of their 5 year study: These agent's murdered JFK and then altered the body and other key evidence. The more you learn, the worse it gets.
ehpitcher 5 months ago 3
This Evil LBJ statement I believe refers to the murder of JFK
"It is the Melancholy law of human societies to be compeled sometimes to chose a great evil in order to ward off a greater evil"
cruisersism 5 months ago
Frame 312 shows Greer with his left hand on the steering wheel and no gun. Kennedy's head explodes in frame 313. If you zoom-in on Greer in frame 313 both his hands are still on the steering wheel. That theory is nuts and only serves to diminish good researchers. Good on Bolden. He was framed by those gov't state security fascist pigs and did 3 years in jail. Good on Lane too. He's timing this perfectly for a last word on Kennedy's CIA fascist murderers prior to the 50th anniversary.
Exiles800 5 months ago
Are you sure? The Zapruder film I have seen shows his left hand OFF the wheel and drawn toward JFK. Film aside, are you aware of the eyewitness testimony and medical evidence that corroborates a shot from Greer? Why would Greer turn TWICE, and why would ANY of this evidence exist? Why would he have the privilege of "staying with the body, always with the body" until sealed for burial? Have you read Doug Horne's book? You might want to do more research before you make such definitive comments.
ehpitcher 5 months ago 2
@ehpitcher Greer turned because both JFK and Connally had been shot and were crying out. You have to be nuts if you think with all the people so close to the scene that no one would have missed Greer turn and blow JFK's brains out with a gun. Especially Nelly who was right there.
Exiles800 5 months ago
@Exiles800 That's not evidence, that's your opinion. Who was looking at Greer during his second turn at frame 312 in the Zapruder film?
ehpitcher 5 months ago
@ehpitcher Jackie and Connally were both crying out. Your logic is feeble and trollish. You're not worth answering. Greer was turning his head because his job was presidential protection and your group is taking advantage of coincidental timing with the head shot. People like you are generally considered ban-able nuts by the credible JFK Assassination Community. How do you explain Nelly missing Greer shooting JFK only feet away? (You can't, so you enter the crap above instead)
Exiles800 5 months ago
@Exiles800 You raise a good point. Actually, any "credible JFK Assassination Community" would not ban an evidence-based argument. And bear in mind that this is not "my" argument. I've simply researched through reading some findings of credible researchers like Newcomb / Adams, Palamara, and Horne. Doug Horne was a US Government researcher on the staff of the AARB. You think he should be "banned" because his view is offensive to you. What you are condoning is called censorship. Are you a fascist?
ehpitcher 5 months ago
Regarding Nelly, I can't force you to acknowledge that this has been answered but I can repeat my answer in simpler terms. How could she have seen Greer allegedly shoot JFK if she was not looking at him? Further, to see Greer shoot JFK, wouldn't she have to be looking at both men at the same time? How could she have done that from her position. Eyewitnesses claimed to have seen an agent "shooting back". Therefore, the assumption was that they were shooting toward an assailant. There's more...
ehpitcher 5 months ago
@Exiles800 How can any eyewitness have seen both Greer and Kennedy at the same time during the split second period of the fatal head shot?
ehpitcher 5 months ago
@Exiles800 How can any eyewitness have seen both Greer and Kennedy at the same time during the split second period of the fatal head shot?
ehpitcher 5 months ago
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@Exiles800 How can any eyewitness have seen both Greer and Kennedy at the same time during the split second period of the fatal head shot?
ehpitcher 5 months ago
@Exiles800 And more specifically, who was looking at JFK and Greer at the same time during Fram 312? To observe Greer allegedly shooting JFK, one would need to be looking at both men during the split second the shot was fired. It is self evident that most witnesses would only be looking at JFK, right?
ehpitcher 5 months ago
@Exiles800 Mr. BELIN - Where did the shots sound like they came from?
Mr. MILLER - Well, the way it sounded like, it came from the, I would say from right there in the car.
ehpitcher 5 months ago
@Exiles800 Another fact to consider in the crime when we discuss the available evidence that points to Greer: The very individuals who were directly responsible for the greatest failure in the history of presidential protection immediately seized the majority of the evidence of that failure and controlled its dissemination, after blatant alteration in some cases. Some was NEVER furnished to any other authority.This fact is detailed in an evidence flow chart included in "Murder From Within".
ehpitcher 5 months ago
@LongLiveOx No, the limo driver was NOT one of the gumen.
God, do you idiots come on here with assertions like that just to hurt the credibility of the real conspiracy?
scorpio888 5 months ago in playlist JFK
@scorpio888 Oh, really? What research and evidence refutes this claim? "Murder From Within", "Definitive Proof: The Secret Service Murder of President John F. Kennedy", and "Inside The AARB" all make a pretty strong case for it, along with supplemental information from "Survivor's Guilt". In five years of my own research I've never seen anything that effectively refutes it. All I have seen are expressions of opinion by antagonists who ignore real evidence of a theory that offends them.
ehpitcher 5 months ago 5
It is obvious to most that "The Kennedy Detail" was written to counter Vince Palamara's findings. The verdict? Blaine FAILED, as his friends did in Dallas. BRAVO to Mr Lane and Mr Bolden
MrKennedysrevenge 6 months ago
Has this been released yet?
Doug41160 6 months ago
Umbrella Man gave the signal that it was all clear, Kennedy was surely dead, and the driver finally hit the gas again. Jackie wanted out of that car for a very good reason. That first shot that came from the TSBD was just to get everyone's attention, and make people think that the gunMAN was there. The shot was merely a warning signal; it missed intentionally. The other 6-8 bullets fired came from the hit teams and the driver.
LongLiveOx 6 months ago
It was a CIA/Pentagon operation. The driver was one of the gunmen. Watch the Zapruder film and zoom it in on the driver. He held the steering wheel in his right hand, and held a small black gun in his left hand. He slowed the car down. He looked back and saw that JFK was still alive. Jackie was looking towards Connelly. The driver then faced front again. He waited a second, then looked back and saw that Jackie was looking down at her husband. You see his thumb come up on the trigger and boom.
LongLiveOx 6 months ago
Great! I look forward to seeing this film. Mark Lane is a hero for truth!
marcostar57 6 months ago
Wow! Powerful stuff. Looking forward to this film.
In this day and age... there really is no way any rational minded person can deny the evidence which is so completely and totally overwhelming of a conspiracy that it simply cannot be denied!
loubowie 7 months ago
AT LAST! A new film looking at the assassination of JFK... Can't wait to see that. The only problem, is that everyone that still seem to think that Oswald did it, won't want to see it, therefore they will start protesting it?
punksterdaddy 8 months ago 12
@punksterdaddy I have been checking in from time to time, in an effort at finding anything about when this film will be available, or where to look. It's now mid 2011. anyone have any updates....? Also please check out the 3 repressed Men Who Killed Kennedy. #7, #8, and #9.. That have recently been posted on the You Tube.
Check out #7 ref the SS
NOC1TIME 7 months ago
Thanks for sharing this information here & allowing comments too. All the pictures show JFK's car had no SS agents attached, other than in front, but LBJ's car looks like a Roman phalanx.
I remember seeing video showing JFK's car stopping, but I can't find it now. I think I remember seeing Gov Connally saying " I hate to disagree with the Warren Commission, but they weren't there." I can not find that now either.
Will Lane investigate Israel mossad & David Ben Gurion's involvement?
mcc11505 8 months ago
As to Mr. Bolden - It may be very easy for a white person to say, but if I were black and somebody called me a n----r, I would use reverse psychology and say, "Why thank you, that is an amazing compliment coming from the likes of you". Like I said, it may be easy for a white man to say, though. I haven't had to hear it every day my whole life. Can't wait to see the show, too. Peace.
Dr1Canuckchuck 8 months ago
Mark Lane Is GOD...He is the premiere authority on this issue... bar none..
Watch and learn...
PenskeHilton 8 months ago
man, i love mark lane he is one of the smartest men in america. please anyone who wants to learn read his books awesome
kuriaki71 8 months ago
Rufus Youngblood the agent for LBJ was sitting in front of him & after the first shot was fired Youngblood jumped back and knocked Johnson to the floor of the car. The agent sitting in front of the President never moved & no one knows who he is.
TheFrogger15 9 months ago
@TheFrogger15 "Nobody knows who he is"? Greer was driving & Kellerman was in the right front seat.
drguffey 8 months ago
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Looks to be a very interesting movie. I'll bet it won't be on any major network though and I can ditto that !
Liz6161953 10 months ago
Like the man said, "God bless Mark Lane and Abraham Bolden!" and it's good to have you back with us Mr Palamara.
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erimondra2 1 year ago
Looks to be a very interesting movie. I'll bet it won't be on any major network though.
marcostar57 1 year ago
Abraham Bolden is a class act. I do wish the story he told about his supervisor ended with Bolden punching him the the mouth. History will look favorably on Mr. Bolden.
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NOC63 1 year ago
@WALRU11 rubbush they did arrest a guy in chicago, and he was in jail when JFK was going to visit. ZERO proof of any plot. look you idiot he cancelled the visit because of Diem.
Typical conspiracy idiot listens to an excon and taks his word as fact. this is what you idiot do over and over again. it keeps the hoax alive for you.
45arther 1 year ago
@45arther LIsten, stupid. Research before you write. Vallee was arrested + 2 of 4 anti-Castro Cubans according to FBI, SS, & Chicago PD reports - confirmed by Chicago SS chief Maurice Martineau's congressional testimony. As the coup against Diem was planned for 11-2, JFK was scheduled to be out of DC. When Lodge turned it bloody AND a plot to kill JFK was reported, then, of course, the trip was cancelled. The site shifted to FL where Joe Milteer revealed the same plot, which was then foiled.
WALRU11 1 year ago
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WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 oswald hit 97 shots out of 100 from 200 yards in the marines.
you just said he fired 3 impeccable shots. Bullshit. you are making that up. typical nut. he hit JFk in the head 1 out of 3 shots from 88 yards or less.
the shots have ben duplicated in alot less time. right on youtube
you like the usual conspiracy nut are talking out of your ass. the dumbing down of america
45arther 1 year ago
@45arther FYI, you revisionist idiot: LHO was such a poor shot he was singled out for special training in order to permit him to pass the minimum marksmanship requirements. 2nd, the rifle claimed to be his, had a faulty scope. 3rd, there is not ONE piece of legally admissable evidence to support his firing any, let alone 3 shots that day. 4th, the frontal head shot - via bullet & Newton's 2nd Law - snapped JFK's head back @ 120 mph. 5th LHO was seen in the 2nd floor TSBD b4 & after the shots
WALRU11 1 year ago
@45arther I didn't say LHO fired. I said YOU believe it. As for alleged "impeccable" shots, count them: 1 hit JFK in the back @ a downward angle, too far below his neck to have exited his throat. A separate shot hit Connally, as he always contended, & a 3rd shot hit JFK in the head. But your theory falls apart as James Teague was struck by a concrete chip from a missed shot & JFK was shot from the front in the throat & head + 4 other bullets were recovered from Dealey Plaza. You lose.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 says bolden was framed. why did he say this..because bolden said he was.
amazing what conspiracy nuts will except to keep their fantasy alive.
tell you what walrus..if there is any proof at all that Bolden was telling the truth let me know.
hey walrus, charles mason claims that he was framed also. i guess we should let him out.
45arther 1 year ago
@45arther Incidentally, you near-illiterate, it's Charles "Manson" with an "n," & he never said he was framed, although solid evidence exists that he was "behaviorally modified" under the CIA's MKULTRA program while at Terminal Island, one of the prison facilities contracted with the agency for inmate conditioning via chemical & hypnotic programming under an experimental black op brainwashing program proposed (unbeknownst to the Kennedy brothers) to prison wardens by the CIA in April of 1961.
WALRU11 1 year ago
@WALRU11 i guess there is no sense in me talkig to an insane person like you. After what you said about Manson, I just hope you get some help. Good luck.
45arther 1 year ago
@45arther More accurately, you're not qualified to speak with me as your pathetically ignorant posts attest. When each of your foolish illusions was disproven by my stated facts, you either tried to shift the argument or resorted to the logical fallacy of ad hominem attack. You live in denial, gullibly swallowing the comfortable myths your mass media handlers feed you, lacking courage & integrity to question your controllers. Truth threatens you. You can't face the terror of reality. Sad.
WALRU11 1 year ago
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NOC63 1 year ago
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@45arther U R invited to my banquet entitled, "East St. Louis Pioneers: Taking the Time to Smell Their Roses". Please contact me at erimon2@yahoo.com/ 314-327-4161 before 1-29-11. Thanks. It is a upscale banquet that will honor 2 legendary pioneers ( Mr. Abraham W. Bolden, Sr. and Sam "Bay" Taylor) that paved the way for us. It will 2-5-11 from 6-8pm. A donation will be collected. RSVP by 1-29-11 at 314-327-4161 erimon2@yahoo.com. A press conf @ 4-4:30 in Council Chambers. Dinner as well.
erimondra2 1 year ago
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erimondra2 1 year ago
@WALRU11 speculation is fun walrul..everything you just posted is pure speculation.
45arther 1 year ago
They can take that page from the WC "findings" and wipe their asses in Hell forever with it.
covenstead 1 year ago
Abraham Bolden is an authentic American hero who prevented JFK's assassination in Chicago, scheduled for Nov. 2, 1963. The plot involved 4 anti-Castro Cuban marksmen who would shoot Kennedy as his limousine slowed to a virtual standstil having negotiated a hairpin turn. The chosen patsy for the kiillng was Thomas Arthur Vallee, like Oswald, an ex-Marine misifit with alleged intelligence connections. Bolden kept JFK alive for another 20 days until the conspirators moved the site to Dallas.
WALRU11 1 year ago
This is incredible stuff! I can't wait to see the entire movie. I've always had nothing less than the utmost respect for Mark Lane. "Rush To Judgment" was one of the first books I ever read about the assassination. It is second to none, and it totally unpolluted by anything which has come since, because it's one of the earliest to have been written.
covenstead 1 year ago
@covenstead mark lane has lied over and over again. this is a fact.
45arther 1 year ago
@45arther -- It appears that you made an account just so that you could try to start arguments with people. That's a fact. Give us some citations, so we can all take a look at the "facts" that Mark Lane is a liar.
covenstead 8 months ago
I am encouraged to see this movie being presented when the people are being fooled by propaganda again. It is our duty as citizens to think smart, view all the information and understand we were lied to. Then DO SOMETHING! Demand justice.
conwayd 1 year ago
I am glad to see Mr. Mark Lane back to work. This comes at a good time with the Road show going on now with Hill and Blaine.
The agent in the front seat should have moved - there is no excuse in the world for that and he needs to be remembered in history for what he did.
presorted5678 1 year ago
1:58 (to 2:10): my unique blog photo compilation used: outstanding! Thanks! :)
VincePalamara 1 year ago 5
Fantastic! I am most looking forward to this amazing feature. God Bless Mark Lane and Abraham Bolden!
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NOC63 1 year ago
@VincePalamara Ditto That.....I am so excited to see Lane active again. God Bless Mark Lane, He started the engine shortly after Dallas. I wish someone could floor this buggy.
NOC63 1 year ago
@VincePalamara "God bless" Mark Lane? He's a fucking communist!
IwshIcldstrtover 11 months ago
@IwshIcldstrtover - You sure he isn't an evil doer ? Maybe he's a communist and an evil doer. That would make him 2 bogeymen in one. You're a first class retard.
tom6612 11 months ago
@tom6612 You'd better do some research, idiot. Then you'll see that the "retard" is yourself.
IwshIcldstrtover 11 months ago
@IwshIcldstrtover Was Mark Lane a Communist when was a US Army intelligence agent?
TrueNovice 9 months ago
@TrueNovice Don't know. Vasili Mitrokhin and the Cambridge historian Christopher Andrew wrote about
Mark Lane in a book called "The Sword and Shield", and you can read what they
wrote on pages 227-228. The passage from 225-230 details the conspiracy
theories of the KGB and Mark Lane about the Kennedy murder.
IwshIcldstrtover 9 months ago
Any JFK documentary needs to have: Jim Douglass, James DiEugenio, Jim Marrs, and Dr. James Fetzer. And show that even Olympic level (NRA Expert-level) shooters failed to be able to make the shots that LHO supposedly made when he barely passed the lowest qualification level for his military service--he was a very poor shot.
RepublicConstitution 1 year ago 2
@RepublicConstitution who shot Kennedy is not that important. What is in this documentary is and has been here since 22November1963 - that is the Secret Service Agents did nothing to help Kennedy when the shots rang out. That in addition to the lax security in general, the route, the other Agents inaction, Greers slowing of the limousine and the destruction of evidence. ( the limousine was immediately washed out )
presorted5678 1 year ago
@presorted5678 I already know all of that and so does anyone else who has ever performed even minimal research into JFK. I was talking about experts that should be interviewed in documentaries on the subject and did not talk about "who" shot Kennedy but rather "who" did NOT shoot JFK. Obviously I will watch this film as well regardless. I respect Lane and Bolden.
RepublicConstitution 1 year ago
This looks excellent. Looking forward to this one.
anthonyjthorne 1 year ago