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  • im impressed. but, this as a FIRST year project? like year 1 of a degree? as in straight out of grammar school?????

    i find that hard to believe......this seems more like a final year project or something!!!!!! you would certainly be lightyears ahead of any 1st year Mech engineers ive known!!!! in 1st year we were designing things 10 times simpler than this!

  • VERY COOL. As a mechanical engineer / autodesk inventor user-designer / backyard gearhead ....im DUELY impressed! 50 hrs!?!? I've only been using Inv for 2.25 years .... that blows me away! Wow. I might take a stab at an EMD 16-645 for kicks using v2012. I currently use 2008 and never having taken a class...I now see I need to LOL! Keep up the good work!  >8)

  • That engine and this video is a masterpiece, I like to do something similar but in aviation.

    I am currently on a p.h.d course in Electrical Engineering and afterwards I am going to do another engineering course in aviation. My father in law works for Rolls Royce in Derby as a designer.

  • How long it took for you to make it?

  • Wow that's amazing!

  • Solidworks harder to use than google Sketchup??

  • You ground your cams wrong. :P

  • don't listen to these fools on here.

    the work put in is incredible.

    the outcome is bad ass.

    sure there are like 20 gears for timing but who cares!

    it was your first engine let alone v8, correct?

    high five!!

  • By first year uni do you mean undergraduate?

    How did you know CAD before you got to college? Did you do an internship, take a class, or learn it yourself?

  • There is an iPad app that lets you view solidworks models. Runs really fast and has measurements and solid cut planes. It's called iCAD Professional and it has a free demo version, iCAD Free.

  • Great Job gratz!!!

  • no belts, just gears.

  • Damn, thats impressive.

  • Great job. Just a friendly tip, disassembly animations look so much better when parts don't fly through one another, instead try to have the parts come apart as they would be if you were tearing it down in real life. keep up the good work.

  • From 3D CAD programs to video's such as on our channel: 3DCADanimations.

    We can handle complex models.

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  • whr i m get engine drawing i need make a same it engine

  • dang some people on here are suck dicks

  • Thank you for showing off your design !

  • this is pretty amazing...makes my little C02 car design look like childs play. 3rd week using the program though. Is there anyway to access a virtual wind tunnel inside solidworks? Ive been trying to pull it up but it will only give me numbers and figures when i try to run it and quite frankly i have no idea what those correspond to. Is there anyway to visually see the laminar and turbulant air flow?

  • WOW that will blow everyone away! For a first year design task that is so awesome!!! I am also using solid works and I am in first year uni doing a design task. So hard I am just trying to model a PCB with basic animation. But this is O_o

  • 50 hours!! I can easily whittle away that time on youtube. What degree did you do? I bet you got a top level first

  • Why are the camshafts turning in the opposite direction to the crank? Wouldnt that make it a timing nightmare?

  • muito bom!

  • HI I TAKE MYSELF TOO SERIOUSLY SO I'M GOING TO SAY YOUR DESIGN IS A YUCKY POOP BC I NEED TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE ABOUT SOMETHING I HAVE LIMITED WIKIPEDIA KNOWLEDGE ON!!! Haha, jk dude kewl video!

  • I've been working in Catia, 3ds Max and SolidWorks for a very long time and I've always wanted to model and animate something like this, but it's not very easy to find a good blueprints so can you tell me how did you model this? Have you used any blueprints, pictures or what??

  • good video I have a little use with solidworks where can i find desighn plans for a small block ford?

  • Gears are far more reliable and accurate than a wuss ass belt which is prone to snapping especially at higher rpm when the rubber starts to destroy itself because its not being cooled by anything. He's not making a funny car motor in there hes using his skills at making something with quite a few moving parts work as one unit. If you want to get critical he has not oiling system or cooling jackets or for that matter a place for a water pump, but thats not the point you retards.

  • What a true work of Engineering.

  • Amazing video. Thanks for posting. Lamboragon's does major trash talk on everyone's video, but disables comments and the Thumb buttons on his. Kinda' childish don't ya' think?

  • You are very good. Can you make 3d parts a little easier now from online photos?. I am trying to make a second, better version of the clone copy Chevy volt first concept car .Like the stage car GM first showed, not the new tiny one, we made a Camaro to look same, it sold fast at a classic car show, is there a low cost 3d computer to reproduce part by part yet.? Next we are trying to make more popular the free water / H2O fumes to gas by car battery 12 volts like grade school use to show us.

  • great work!

    See my project in solidworks :) Almost like your !

  • were all of this stuff made using one software "SolidWorks"?

  • lol no one uses gear timing. Its either chain or belt. Rotational mass of the gears would be beyond excessive. BTW F1 doesn't use timing gears, they have been pneumatically operated for quite some time.

  • @sonicnofadz

    F1 engines are ALL timing gears, and actually the pheumatics are just to elimiate the valve coil springs, they still use cams with finger followers. Please do SOME research before posting rubbish.....oh dear.

  • @sonicnofadz PLEASE try and be MORE ignorant. Nissan_L_engine LZ_TWIN_CAM_ENGINES

  • @sonicnofadz - er - Honda VFR 750 / 800 has had gear driven cams in these bikes for 25 years...

  • @sonicnofadz

    Honda used to use gears to time the cams on their V4 motors for the VFR750. They have two meshing gears that are attached to a holder of sorts that sits in the valley of the V; this runs off of a geared section of the crankshaft. It would be a challenge on a pushrod motor like this one though.

    I agree there's a lot of mass turning with all those gears in this version. I bet they would make a lot of clatter in real life!! My VFR only has the two gears running the cams

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  • my bike, and it darn near sounds like one of those old school SBC's with the twin scroll supercharger on top - no BS!!

  • Very interesting design and model there. Its a shame to see after reading the various comments from people that they dont seem to get its just a bit of fun, and for a first year project that was pretty exceptional!

    BEng student at brookes.

  • pretty interesting.

  • The engine is awesome.. BTW don't even bother acknowledging the existence of some of the stupid (and jealous) cunts leaving comments here.

  • Not bad for a little CAD exercise, I want to see your freeforrm, 2nd & 3rd year or someting else that Solidworks & ProE cannot do easily like morphing object animation or Nastran crash simulation where Catia should be the best CAD for the job unless using Maya / 3D max for movie of course.

    BTW, is it just me?, but I've never heard Solidworks were used in the automotive environment so why use it to compare it? (eventhough solidworks are faster at modelling simple stuff compared with pro-e)

  • So sad people can't even appreciate nice works, even though they might not be 100% realistic. Whether someone models an accurate 747 engine or an imaginary Starwars vehicle, both can be pretty aweome.

  • it looks fine, Im doing the same for my final.

    except mine is modelled more closely to the ford smallblock

    all the people that are complain havent spent the time to model their own engine, nor taken the time to learn the program

  • Funny and all (especially that idea to replace belts with gears), but, what's the point? I like to call such publications empty designs, they show nothing of value, save maybe for amuse of people who don't know anything about real engineering/manufacturing/desi­gning/however else you'd call it. CAD is not oracle to make shiny stuff, that's the tool to make professionals more efficient, it's useless without knowledge, and very wide one if you want to properly design actual engine, not just toy.

  • I adore the crowds of expert engine designers who spend all their day leaving rude comments - so good they got their engines done before breakfast then treat themselves to some youtube for the rest of the day....I expect thats what they do at Cosworth.

    Why use gears? Its all about 2 things, speeds and timing accuracy. If you use a belt you have to allow for innacuracy (its made of RUBBER) - hence valve lift is compromised. All F1 has been gears for 15years, belts also speed limited

  • @snowygrouch

    Don't be so smug, it wasn't really pointed at you, and timing belts are fine in the most of engines, especially new ones, likely made not from rubber, but composition of almost non-stretching material like Kevlar and temperature/oil resistant polymers which don't degrade when mounted close to even the hottest engines. Plus - you don't realize even gear transmission isn't perfect, do you? There is always some inaccuracy, as manufacturing tools aren't infinitely precise.

  • @snowygrouch just a little careless writing his video description. But then I read some more of your comments like "All I can say is that perhaps I`m just MUCH MUCH better than you." and "Instead of spending your time writing rubbish I suggest you get studying!" And now I know. You're just an arrogant asshole. You didn't "forget" to write that you already had plenty of experience - you left that you on purpose because you knew that most people watching this would doubt their own abilities.

  • @derda987

    You were careless reading it, I had a couple of years in Autocad before my degree and thats it. I had perhaps 6months Solidworks before I made this model & video (my degree started in 2005, video posted early 2006). My experience with CATIA was long after this was finished - I havent used solidworks for well over 2 years now. The video is to show how you can make cool things in Solidworks....sorry if you confused hard work with arrogance.

  • i love your work... I just started CAD but really want to be a pro at it, i am into it now......any advice on where to start??

  • lol we learn to use this in middleschool

  • you made this in 1st year uni... wow, what course is this for?

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  • Great model and a great video.! keep on posting new video's.

    Greetings from the Netherlands

  • @Lamboragon

    FYI Nobody uses PRO-E anymore, I`ve been using CATIA for several years. And yes its much better than Solidworks. Also FYI, have designed an (actual real) racing engine since that took 3 years to do - but in fact conceptually there is nothing that wouldnt work on that model (although its pretty obviosuly a quick concept - its patently impossible to a full mechanical design in that time. Also FYI, being rude will get you nowhere in life - "you should learn that".

  • Man ur all geeks .. Why bother argueing because he has done a good job. So what if you can do better! haha

  • I have seen the truth and this guy isn't lying. A machine uses a laser, cuts about 1/16 of a mm at a time, and forms these shapes in an hour or so. AWESOME. You may have to break loose the moving parts so they rotate with ease, but, it's the truth. Just go to a Solidworks workshop MetallicAus. No joke. Cool stuff.

  • I always CAD to Kraftwerk. It's the best

  • @logdogfrog

    CAD and electronic music FTW :D

  • the power of copy move

  • @BabyPholol Exactly, with a bit of thought up front you could do a V twin assembly then move/copy that three times.Then rotate the copied parts to get the correct firing order and you have a v8.As soon as there is a repeat in the firing order you could have a V64 for the hell of it in minutes.

  • 50 hours could be real, but you must have at least an experience that took 500 hours?

  • As for the valve train it reminds me of the legendary original Cosworth F1 engine which had straight cut gears cos it soaks up less power which is the whole point of using gears in the first place. 

  • I don't see the problem myself with 50 hrs CAD time.

    You obviously know engines, and there is a great deal of economy of design in this one, It is not to hard to give the impression of great detail without having to include every bearing,bush and water/oil gallery. In fact it would take away from clearly illustrating the moving parts.

  • my computer would definently burn down if i run a simulation like this on solidworks :) but looks really nice !

  • sorry but your fucking lying

    you cant design all that in 50 hours. our uni professor showed us when I was in first year a less complicated design and he said it took them a month with his colleague working on it. your might just assembled that and got the designs ready from the internet :)

  • All I can say is that perhaps I`m just MUCH MUCH better than you.

    Deal with it - but dont swear or post lies.

    I`ve just finished designing a real engine (600cc v-twin) and it took 2 years.

    Design for manufacture and a bit of fun CAD work is about a million miles apart.

  • @snowygrouch if you try to assemble a nut that got 1 mm extra or less width it won't fit into the other part and you will have to redesign or modify that nut dimention again. your trying to convince me that you design all that parts correctly in 50 hours minus 12 hours sleep and assemble them in 1 hour! your design is nice but why don't you say the truth about the time taken? thats only my comment. be honest and stop lying at people who don't have much experience about solidworks.

  • there is only about 20 unique parts - so yes I AM saying I made

    20 parts in 50 hours. Half of them are nuts or bolts which take about 5mins

    to make in Solidworks. The crank took about 3 hours, piston about 5 hrs assembly took perhaps 10hrs

    I`m sorry you`re upset that your CAD skills are not very good but dont

    complain to me!

    Instead of spending your time writing rubbish I suggest you get studying!

  • @snowygrouch

    The guy clearly has no idea what he's on about.

    My first V8 in SW took about 200 hours to draw up .etc, but it was my 3rd project in SW and I was just using it for learning purposes, so 50 hours seems about right once you know what you're doing, particularly in SW with the way you can easily references existing parts for dimensions.

  • @snowygrouch

    As many others probably did too, I found your Video searching for Tutorials on SW. Because I am currently working on my first Solid Works Project.

    So my first thought was. Dude, your lying! No way this is your firstyear project and it only took you 50h to make it. But reading the comments I realized you have been working with CATIA and SW for several years before you took the course where you made that engine. So I thought, well okay he is obviously skilled with CAD and was...

  • @MetallicAus im pretty sure he means 50 hours work all together not all in one go. im no expert with solidworks but ive assembled a small engines in just a few hours

  • @MetallicAus it might of taken him a month to DESIGN an engine...but drawing a functioning model of an engine in solidworks is nothing to do with engine dynamics or deisgn (in THIS scenario)...its just a test of CAD skill, which this guy had plenty of as you can see..if youve got common sense and know the principals behind a V8 its not going to take a month to draw the components and mate them is it? if it is i suggest you give up cad.

  • @simonwilliams88 your saying a month. They guy says 2 days

  • nice job, really love the mirror reflections (or whatever it is i'm referring to)

  • kako mi se ovo svidja, napalio sam se....

  • hola amigo, estoy aprendiendo solidworks, me puedes pasar el archivo de tu motor, saludos

  • I've used SolidWorks for about 5 years and I can appreciate how complex that model is. Very well done!

  • See Solidworks is simple except now days most engineers use Catia and FucK ME Catia is fucking annoying to use

  • cad is more toruble than its worth

  • Love your work; a lot of 1960's Honda race engines used gearing like that to drive cams, not usually possible in the compromises that have to be made in volume production; but a nice touch nevertheless

  • TOO MUCH CRAP GO ROTARY

  • @Mitsdat rotary sucks

  • AND

  • 1st year ??? how you do to be so damn skilled with solidworks and how much time did it take you to do that engine ? i wanna do a barret .50 caliber sniper rifle for my cad drawing class in solidworks for project but, getting the measures for every part just seems impossible everywhere in the net

  • Crazy ITB's!!! AWESOME! 

  • Brilliant!!

  • Very nicely made. Though, I'm going to call bullshit on only taking 50 hours to design, create the parts you designed in CAD, creating all of the proper mates for the subassemblies and assemblies, properly animating, and rendering. Like I said though, very cool no matter how long it took.

  • Thank you for sharing. Awesome work!

  • Great job!

  • Oh lol, 2006 a long time ago.

  • A nice start, but...The Timming gears could do with having an involute-tooth-profile and being heilical. A bit harder to draw, but they would make for a better engine design. The gears at the moment won't rotate smoothly due to the current tooth-engagement and tooth-shape. (Thats why reverse-gear in a car has that annoying whine as its just a regular spur-gear, all of the forward gears are either helical or double-helical)

  • awesome man very good job. i know how hard it is to use this program

  • nice bro

  • ye i agreed with eski69 until i read your witty response! And saw that you were an oxford boy. v impressive, im just starting out, think i'll try something simpler

  • great job.

    from italy and from a student of mechanical engineering.

  • Do you have a supercomputer ??!

  • What program is this? if i were to buy on of the auto cad programs which one should i buy?

  • Nice work looks great

    do you rember what kind of system you had when you made this

  • I love this assembly its great! Good Job Snowygrouch.

  • I love this assembly its great! Good Job Snowygrouch.

  • are you serious?is this 1st year design?

  • Im try to make one as well for my jr year in high shool i know its gonna be a challenge and ur video was great

  • Nice work! I don't really like your design with all those gears, but it's good quality modeling and assembly building etc. You have a good handle on solidworks, good stuff.

  • dude that is just plain awesome man. That what i am expecting to do as my solidworks project someday... thanks for the demo.

  • Geez guys it's a first year student - that's pretty impressive for a first year student.

  • ah he goes to oxford. that explains EVERYTHING! lol

  • How long have you been using SolidWorks? Pretty amazing that you could put this togethr in 50 hours. What version do you use? What suggestions do you have for increased productivity?

  • There's like 1 Million sprockets instead of chains and belts LOL! Still badass!

  • thats your 1st year uni project? You are not human!

  • that took allot more then 50 hours.

  • it`s really a nice work but that engine is impossible , you should study a lot more about engines an more about v8 and ther timing

  • Nicely done--amazing.

  • holy shit 336 parts! nice work!

  • foarte interesant

  • thats really amazing bet your the best in your class! btw, did you use photoworks or some other add-on to reneder the animation?

  • I dont think he did all that rendering in photoworks. All of it are in the options, u can set lights, relfection properties..all those settings are inn solidworks..

    all are just simple display options, i know cause i turn all mine off so it doesnt slow down my shitty computer

  • Jesus Christ, CAD software is so damn hard to learn. I've been watching tons of tutorial videos on YouTube and I still don't know what the hell they are talking about.

  • mastercam is easy if u take class

  • holy fucking shit dude....pro...just pro

  • Cool looking, but isn't the point in new stuff being designed is for it to be more simple to use...that would be a pain in the ass to work on.

  • I can't believe that's a 1st year project - incredible. what degree are you studying for?

  • The GOD of solidwork!!!!!

    supperrrr

  • heyy man this is amazinggg! greatt work...i have similar project to do...making an air engine...got all the drawings n stuf..but can't do it...can u help lol?

  • Wow this is amazing.

    For my 1st year SW project I designed a clock. And even that took me about two weeks to get it working right. ;-)

    I hope you got an A+.

  • very nice work, did you use a special Software for the rendering?

  • where did you get the engineering drawing for the engine ? i want to design an engine too, but i can't find complete drawings and assemblies

  • Wanna past the assembly on the net somewhere?

  • amazing work .. appreciated by means of any mechanical eng.

  • WTF!!

    I have many problems to just make a simply cube.

    where do you learn this?

    Nice work!

  • School. if your just looking to learn simpler stuff for fun, your local community college might have an AutoCAD course. this was Solid works which is comparable to Autodesk Inventor.

  • lol same thing here xD

  • You designed this entirely yourself? Nice work.

  • dude this is frickin sweet all credit to you. I've just started uni this year and upgraded from Prodesktop 8 to SW which was alright.. could have been worse. Seeing this makes me hate the fact all the programmes my old college ran were almost worthy or being museum peices and that i'll have to work myself up to your sort of standard. still... we all have to start somewhere :D

  • I am a junior in high school and freaking LOVE Solidworks... It's got a pretty heavy learning curve though. At first i had like no idea what to do and constantly had to ask for help but at one point it just ... Clicked. Now it's just like these ideas and models come to mind naturally

    I'll probably end up doing something just like this in college xD. man am I glad i took Engineering graphics!

  • That would be THE noisest valvetrain on the face of the planet.

  • Why is that?

  • Dog cut cogs used instead of timing belt or chains. There is a reason they don't go with gears most of the time. Usually noise.

    Unfortunately real life engineers have to deal with costs, NVH issues etc.

    But this was a fun exercise it looks like, nice work with solid works snowy.

  • lol, i was just thinking that same thing. Awsome work tho to the OP

  • notice the timing was incorect too?

  • @roycehellion noob.

  • how so?

  • the timing is correct for a flat plane V8

  • @Nettikturbo correctly machined gears in a helical design are actually rather quiet in comparison, the reason much gear meshing you hear is noisy is due to the straight cut gears, as they are cheaper and easier to produce, however due to the lower contact area chatter more. Chains are awesome for power delivery. Look at bicycles, they HAVE to be efficient as the engine is crap. motos use chains in races, even BMW, shaft is only good for low maintenance, and lower failure of parts.

  • @tommo2785 Chains are not awesome for power delivery, take a look at a bike, they make no torque.

    Yes I know approach angles for helical gears are.. QUIETER, but not quiet.

  • @devo4g63 : I play ps3, ps2, psp AND I enjoy solidworks for designing engines for school. will you shut up about games and gamers, if you think games are for 10Y olds, I'll let you try some of my games and let's see if you can beat em. I don't think so dumbass, If you don't know what you're talking about, then leave it the fuck alone!

  • Now that is cool, when will the idiots that post xbox and playstation game videos realise that true car people enjoy these sort of computer based programmes, not there games that are designed for 10 year olds!!! Nice work, and good luck in your further studies (If you are still studying).

  • What are you studying? For a 1st year project it looks pretty complicated. I am good in SW but could not manage to do engine model in 50 hours. May be this one is simple because of the simple shape of the body but a real one is a challenge. It takes me 3-4 hours to make a diesel piston.

  • It's a nice video. About the 50 hours, who knows. If you get down to it and really pay attention to the components and features, there's nothing mind-bogglingly complicated about it. It just takes a bit of time.

    Keep in mind that if someone actually tried to BUILD this engine based on this CAD model it would probably be a terrible engine. But then that's not the point, the point is to make a nice-looking CAD model. Mission accomplished.

  • looks sweet!

  • Nice design...nice video...nice engine...but the question is : it works ? ...ahahaha...

  • kinda looked like a ford motor

  • Amazing work!

  • Brilliant job, but fifty hours my ass.

  • can u do better?

  • No. But working with solid works every day, I know for a fact that a model like your will take more than 50 hours.

    No point arguing about it.

    If you have done this model we all know, you are talented enough, and shouldn't bullshit about it how long it took you to do it.

    And before you start on about haters and stuff.

    I work with the program, and I appreciate the model you have built and the work you have put in it.

    Keep up the good work.

    Regards

  • aaah i didnt upload this video, but i see what i mean i thought u ment it can be done quicker and took too long i have to agree with you. Making the engine is one thing and getting the right ratios and gears and things to run in correct order i suppose makes it even harder to build. Must of had some sort of aids to build this.

  • amazing job rendering.

  • 50 hours? Great!!!

  • 50 hours must be for ultimate graphic genius.

    it would take long time to make this for normal designer.

  • Did you also use Solidworks to animate it?

    Or an external program?

    And btw You did a very good job!

    Nice work!

  • Wasn't a stab at you. You must have had learnt to do CAD prior to commencing your degree, coz i'm 2nd year Mech Engineering and don't know anyone that can do it that quickly! I use solidworks frequently!

  • well you should of done what im doing learn before you have to. im teaching myself so i do go on other peoples work and moan bout they good stuff.

    still in college last yr and i bet im on your level ha!

  • Wow thanks for that well reasoned comment. Care to offer any explanation? Or just here to moan that you cant do CAD?

  • I seriously doubt he has done any work in CAD. Ignore the haters.

    Awesome job on the engine. I have started to make an engine but then get frustrated and quit. HAHA

  • @snowygrouch id say 50 hours is about right...alot of the parts are just duplicates anyways

  • Good work, I use Autodesk Inventor but the processor doesn't help me, I can't complete a 50 parts assembly before the computer keep freesing and program terminates in somecases.

    Thanks for sharing the video.

  • The gears doesn't line up.

  • This projects are my fathers everyday works in AutoCAD 2002 !!!!! He is 55 and never used books or teachers. 3d in AutoCAD is art and no solidworks. Sorry for my bad English.

  • if they say valve springs cost power, then wtf are those 12 gears going to do. also are those push rods on an overhead cam motor. as a machinist i can safely say you uni students-graduates sure know how to over complicate shit

  • Stay away from engines if I were you!

    Those are studs that hold the heads on not push rods. In OHC the lobes operate direct on the valve tappets....

    Also gears have the highest drive efficiency of any system (99.5% if theyre really good gears). As a poor machinist YOU know how to over complicate "shit".

  • ok so there head bolts, do you think thermal expansion may play a part in head gasket failure??? just an observation since i couldn't figure out what the fuck else would be so long in a motor. gears are required to mesh together creating load as a result loss of power but hey i guess thats why the dumbarse's at gmc, ford, honda, subaru blah blah blah all use a belt driven ohc system, i must be part of a massive foolish engineering community with our head up our arse's

  • Yep the head studs are probably too long, however virtually all real race engines use gear or gear/chain drives. Belts cant cope with the higher speeds. But then what do Ferrari, Cosworth, Mercedes Benz F1 know, blah blah blah...

  • ok now i school you real simple like. yes gears have an excellent drive efficiency, you turn a gear 1 degree the follower will turn 1 degree, to get this accuracy they must interfere with each other, this results in power loss. now you times this power loss by 12 gears to drive an ohc and you have an over complicated heap of shit that'll never go into production.

    how many gears in an f1 valve train?

    i will say you should look into CGI i think youll do well there

    in closing it's OVER COMPLICATED