Tywennow a’senz yn-kaeth tresor yntre tir ha’traeth: peub tyller ha’peub termynn rÿskrivas, yn du war wynn, gwir dhÿvydhyanz peub kÿvoeth - gwel glan, dorn hÿform, tan poeth, kÿzgan dhÿ vore kÿvar, nerth, nell, kÿnwerez chwar, ertaj rag fetha ankov, les gwerin peub pryz ann prov: byth na’veidhez ki bychan plosa agan nevez lan, na’dawez agan kÿzlev lemen dassÿni bÿz Nev: du ann sorn down y’nn kÿskeuz, gwynn ann ewynn war dyweuz. Kernow kensa. Kernow ha kernowyon bewa arta.
@fenfen99 The point is Cornwall historically defended itself from invasion - it preserved itself for a vastly greater period in time than it wasn't able to. Beyond that, its laws defending a right to independence still exist and have never been nullified. Kernow has ignored rights through assimilation as a 'county' of England. It's time that the Cornish and English know the truth. What else can I present to you if you have already decided that this presentation is not for you?
@celticcornish the basques are the original europeans,the original americans(solutreans),the people that gave rise to white people.yet this is not taught at school.You can tell the so called "jews" own the media,the universities etc.Pass it the fuck on damn it....JUSTICE the basques are a holy people thats why the "jews"(edomites/khazars) concealed this....go barça the decent people are with u
@fenfen99 Cornwall defended itself in the past - at the time of Roman invasion and after.... few know that. This defense strengthened Cornish identity until it was lost in relatively-recent times by nothing more than illegal assimilation. There is no goal to insult from behind a computer or anywhere else. Many cannot handle the truth and hence anger/frustration/hurt feelings result.
@fenfen99 No - don't be angry with the English. Educate them, as I attempt to do. An educated Englishman is a good friend of this channel, as you can see if you see comments from a few people who started out belligerent, but came around to a position of respect-through-information. Anger achieves little.... winning minds in support of truth achieve much.
@soupdragon151 Love they way that deranged imperialists tag historic people 'nationalistic nutters'. Comes with your territory I guess. The imperialist mindset can't contemplate difference. It merely wishes to assimilate and degrade, hoping that the ignorant stay ignorant, and vote accordingly. I can understand that a "place like this" has no location in your imperialist mindset of live-in-the-moment ignorance.
@Rigmaster22 and so-says the ill-informed, and so it must be true? Here is a video with 100 points, and all you can do is say that it 'hasn't been' and 'is not'. A great contribution and counter-argument. Find 100 points nullifying these 100 points.... that will be a comment with a point.
@celticcornish, who are you to say such a thing is a farce, a person can identify themselves however they like. I believe the last native Cornish speaker last name was 'Davey', an English surname. He probably lived a genuine Cornish culture as a fisherman near St Ives turn of the century. His blood s that of an Englishman but will be more Cornish than anyone you know. All you are doing is demonizing, 'the evil anglo saxons', in a bid to make yourself feel superior.
@harveyshideout History is not a farce - look it up. History supersedes surnames. It's nothing to do with 'demonizing'.... it's everything to do with historical rights. Until you appreciate just what they are, don't make assumptions about what the cause is.
I hope the Cornish get independence and freedom,I'm from Scotland so we know how it feels,in 5 years we might even be a fully independent nation again
@superraptor65 Thank you sir; I do hope you get full independence soon. We all share the same compromised history, so a win for one is an eventual win for all. Our rights are a 'deck of cards' if you will.
Even though it was way too long I thought all the points were very interesting. So, I'm now a supporter of Cornish identity and realise that it's separate from England. I know many people who travel down from Scotland and holiday in Cornwall saying it's a great place so I'll have to get a train down to see what it's like for myself.
@themightyrara Nothing to argue with, unfortunately. With time on their hands, they may start to care about something though, and this is as worthy a thing to care about as anything.
@SICKBOY687 Cause you say so SickBoy? Present 100 oppositional points to this video and maybe then I'll start to believe you; otherwise sit down and deal with the fact that you've contributed nothing other than ignorance.
@T1NY0808 What will we talk about? Will you choose to change my mind with your fists, or will we have a civilised discussion of Celtic rights over a pub lunch? Either way, my time is either well-spent educating you, or wasted on your determined ignorance. Neither will be served better in person, and neither will be affected by our meeting.
@T1NY0808 Its industry has no bearing on its historical truth as a nation of people directly related to their culture and land - and it is that which goes over your head in your attempt to belittle its financial status.
@HELLJUMP3R7 Ahh, so the answer lies in a contemporary map/globe - how could I have missed that? I suppose that if someone told you that the world was flat again and gave you an article to read that said as much, you'd believe it, yes? I tell you what, I'll read history and understand just why contemporary maps are based on illegal breeches of Celtic boundaries, while you keep believing that they were immaculately formed from into the Mother-nation that you see today - okay?
We are circulating a petition calling on the government to recognise the Cornish as a National minority. It has been created by a Cornish person who is not a member of any political party or organisation but who is very concerned at what is happening in Cornwall. Please sign it and pass it on to your friends. We want to protect what there is left before all is lost !:
h t tp ://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/2835
For those who are interested, the name of the Cornish flag in the ancient Cornish language (Kernewek) is:
"Gwynn ha Du"
English="The White and the Black" from smelting a cross of white tin ore across the black stone from which it came. It is linked to Peran (St Piran) one of the National Patron Saints of Kernow (Cornwall). Peran landed and preached at Perranporth. This has a ruin of one of the oldest churchs in the British Isles. Others say it is thebinding of Christ and pagan Cornwall.
The Bretons, many of whom came to Briezh (Brittany) from Kernow (Cornwall) in the 5th, 6th and 7th centuries flew the same flag but in reverse to the Cornish. This was (and still is) called in Breton "Gwen ha Du". It is a black cross on a white background. It represents the Britons and Cornish in their new land across the sea. This flag became the Breton Naval Flag. It was flown by the winning Breton contingent at the 'Combat of the Thirty' in 1351AD. The flag is shown on a painting from 1480AD
@TheTwollocks Sure.... it's all about hatred.... can't be about historical truth and rights. Can't be about historical integrity or identity? Can't be about righteousness, land and culture. Can't be about heritage or ancestry? Can't be about simple pride? Instead it's about hatred. That must be it.
@TheBasqueLand I'm sure you base your opinion on some research you have done, as do I. What else can I present to you that will change your mind? The videos here speak for themselves; the consensus of those having done similar research supports the perspectives presented here.
@mellowNdark Yes - 500 legitimate historical reasons - as presented. Greedy and weird.... how so? Greedy because I feel that Cornwall should have back its legal, historic rights? Weird because there can't be a version of truth which deviates from a mass consumption of popular history put forward by an imperialist mindset?
Once I finish my current degree in languages, I'm learning every Celtic language. I already speak Irish near-fluently (still working on), but after I get totally fluent I'm learning Scots' Gaelic, Manx, then Welsh, Cornish and Breton. Not that I put your language behind others, but I'll find it easier to learn the three Goidelic languages first because they're more similar. Though I'm Irish, I see myself as a very pan-Celtic person and I want to help preserve and restore all of our identities.
Well some people realise this, except the ignorants of course, Britain is nothing more than an artificial state that the London elite are trying to propagate as other wise just for the boasting rights of the British empire and to pretend it still exists.
This union started with two sovereign nations, Scotland and England, they are the real nations simple living under a treaty, a 'treaty of union' that has well passed it's sell by date, to a state of rancidness.
DNA Research by Stephen Oppenheimer had disproven the victorian myth that Celts were cleansed by Germanic tribes.In fact 80% of British DNA comes from the earliest settlers who were here long before celtic and saxon culture was imposed by replaced ruling classes.The general population has never changed.
@JohnPurchaseArt I also have an opposing DNA video posted. I guess your guy knows more than mine? Perhaps he has more credibility and would like to somehow present his greater case for abject truth? The thing is, I have a DNA video AND a historical research video, both which concur and present a perspective which dictates my historical understanding. Perhaps you only have a DNA presentation? Either way, your presentation has no more legitimacy than mine. You say potato.....
Who gives a shit, we'll all be building mosques for allah soon, then you cornish can wank on about human rights and independence to them, good luck, I'm off to Canada.
@stonerosesphil Cornish rights aren't about right wing liberalism, they're about the TRUTH. Cornwall is not trying to change, restructure or defraud England out of anything, so why presuppose it's the goal of the Cornish to weaken the nation of England? Kernow was not historically part of England, so what exactly would England actually surrender in recognising Cornish TRUTH? And If you think you won't encounter sweeping right wing liberalism in Canada, you've got another think coming....
@celticcornish I hope your cause succeeds, but the English government is too busy appeasing muslims and other 3rd world people to care about the Cornish. I truly hope your cause succeeds
@angus1000001 I appreciate your support. This channel is really about the principal and Truth - it may be part of other faint voices out there; it may inspire few and aggravate many..... it probably won't help bring about any form of political change, but the truth which is behind Kernow and it's people must be spoken and heard by those who are open to learning something meaningful, if they care. Cornishmen, in particular must know the precise, meaningful history which defines them.
@stonerosesphil I'm sick of people like you saying "I'm off to Canada" or "Australia" If you think those countries are a paradise then you're deluded. You're doing no better then the people you slag off coming to Britain. You're just another immigrant yourself.
@stonerosesphil I'm Cornish.. Cornish Canadian actually.. and dude, don't come here if you're planning on escaping the Muslim problem, trust me. That's why I'm off to the States!
@075659178117 Get over YOURSELF and deal with the fact that our truth as a people is none of your business or concern. It will be read and understood - regardless of your simple-minded, supercilious, emotional opinions.
@075659178117 'Britain' means nothing my imperialist friend. You speak of 'day and age' but the days of the British Empire have long gone as the world evolves to recognise it's many diverse cultures and ethnic peoples. It is you who remains in the dark age of imperialism - and you apparently do so waving a Cornish flag (as your icon), yet you have no idea what that flag means or how many people died to fly it in defense. You reduce Kernow to a mere destination; you insult our countRy and people.
@celticcornish all you will be votting for is to be another state in the Federal Europe whitch powers will be focused in brussels and Strasbourg and to me giving them the powers would be a betrail to all thows who fought and died for our freedom in 2 world wars and not just that where is it writen that you cant be Cornish and english ?
@075659178117 Your point about being another state in federal Europe is fair and taken. I also take your point about two world wars. It doesn't benefit either of us to say that many have died in defense of rights. I can only say that the truth of Cornish culture/history must be understood, and ancestral integrity dictates that we at-least have government over ourselves as an independent people, in-touch with our cultural past. Understand that our very identity is compromised as-is.
@HELLJUMP3R7 Where this issue is concerned, a 'simple-minded' individual is one who speaks without sufficient research, and it is my belief that everyone who does not understand the Cornish issue speaks without the benefit of research. I believe this because people have commented in ignorance and then come back months later to say that they were wrong and ill-informed. Read all of the posts on these videos and you we see minds changed. So yes; 'simple-minded' is also 'ill-informed'
@075659178117 Dual Cornish-English identity is a farce based on a lack of knowledge, unless one has a Cornish mother and English father, for example. The difference in being Celtic Cornish and Saxon-Anglo is similar to the difference between black and white - and just as clear-cut when research is done and history is read. "British" it a description of convenience, and just as descriptive as "American"; it means little-to-nothing as far as roots and heritage goes.
@celticcornish - This is a very accurate summary of what real history (ie the truth as it is to be found in many under reported sources eg William Camden et al) teaches on this subject. Other could learn a lot from your posting. Meur ras.
@cornubian Many thanks. It's a place to start - that's how I view it. Here is a presentation of 100 points; each point is researched and valid. Importantly - each point shakes the very foundation on which Cornwall is alleged to have any meaningful legal relationship with England. These 100 points are the equivalent to the Cross in Dracula's face as far as the nay-sayers are concerned yet the anger/spite which arises casts not a single shadow of doubt on their basis in fact.
Why is it the English government will happily accept and endorse Kosovo's declaration of independence as a seperate nation (When as far as I know, Kosovo was never a nation) and yet the English government refuses to accept or even acknowledge Cornwall's much more historically valid claim. The reason.of course is patently clear; Kosovo was formerly part of the 'Soviet Empire' and the English government will jump through hoops in order to help dismantle that empire.
Why is it that the English Government happily accepts and endorses Kosovo's declaration of independence when Kosovo (As far as I can tell) was never a separate nation, and yet, the English Government refuses to accept Cornwall's much more legitimate and historically valid claims for national status.
@Alex1M6 To ignoramuses who accept the status quo - the status quo will persist; to ignoramuses who believe governments run them, rather than the reverse - I agree, acceptance of injustice is a natural consequence. But alas - for those with heart and principals, there will be no 'getting over it'. You are not Cornish, you have no Cornish ancestors, you have no understanding and no investment in the issue..... We don't care what you or your government thinks of our objection to valid injustice.
Why is it the English government will happily accept and endorse Kosovo's declaration of independence as a seperate nation (When as far as I know, Kosovo was never a nation) and yet the English government refuses to accept or even acknowledge Cornwall's much more historically valid claim. The reason.of course is patently clear; Kosovo was formerly part of the 'Soviet Empire' and the English government will jump through hoops in order to help dismantle that empire.
@brism32 A valid point; proving that an artificial moral high ground can be assumed when addressing world injustices which are 'out of range', but when the injustices are in one's own backyard..... forget it! I marvel at the hypocrisy, especially when there is such an apparent 'walking on egg' political correctness which dominates in all other sectors of discussion.
Well I'm Welsh, and I whole-heartedly support Cornish independence from England. They deserve to be recognised as a separate country. They are the fifth home nation!
@Glywysing942 We are indeed my Welsh cousin.... or perhaps we're the FIRST home nation?!!!! Joking aside, I'm sure you will agree that all of our respective Celtic homelands with their Brethonic Celtic peoples, speaking variations of their Brethonic Celtic languages have common challenges - we have all been illegally administered and governed, one way or another - and to greater or lesser degrees. Lechyd da!
Indeed. I hope that within our lifetimes we'll see a Kernow separate from England. How popular is the idea of that in Cornwall exactly? Is it enough to actually make a difference or do most people just not care? I see a lot of cars driving around Wales with Cornish flags on them actually, always makes me smile.
Lechyd da... I guess that's the Cornish for iechyd da? I love the similarities between the languages, especially "good night" being exactly the same!
@Glywysing942 I too hope for that. Many of the older generation Cornish know more of their history and difference, but immigration to Kernow has undoubtedly seen a fair-proportion of the population lack the consideration and care for our historic country. I remain upbeat because as we see more road signs in Cornish language (as well as English), people are inspired to research just why the Cornish spoke another language.. and there lies the beginning of a Celtic Cornish education of difference!
@Blackrapperable Case-in-point for your ignorance though. You identify people as Cornish, yet apparently the land of this specifically-identified group of people belongs to another land! If you were to call the Cornish, 'English' - as you call their land 'England', at least there would be some consistency in your lack of logic. Recognising the Cornish implicitly means you recognise their difference; and by implication that means a denial of the 'land of the Cornish' is PURE IGNORANCE.
@Blackrapperable How can anyone validate the opinion of a racist individual such as yourself. You've proved your racism against ethnically diverse peoples time and time again. Racist people have nothing to add to anything since their opinions as invalidated by their wholesale ignorance and inability to learn or educate themselves. Regardless, your racist obsession will do you no good. You are seen for what you are here, and on other videos. I will not allow racist ignorance here.
Yes CelticCornish you are right it is an insurmountable challenge - but I will get the ball rolling:
POINT 1:- ENDORSED=Cornish, along with Hebrew, are the only languages to have successfully been revived. Cornish is a completely distinct language from English and it is most definately not a dialect or degeneration - it is a language in its own right and it has now been officially recognised as a living language. Just like Arthur(?!?)and the Cornish Chough it did not and could not die haha!
Here CelticCornish puts forward the challenge:- instead of people abusing one another (ie attacking the Cornish right to self-determination) people should either endorse the 100 points made in his vid OR identify, with grounds, which points they reject. I will therefore accept CC's challenge and begin the process:- -----
@PeopleRiseUp1 Personally, I can't believe that anyone can doubt the Cornish case for independence - with the wealth of historical account and legal support in the EU. Hurt feelings, imperialist dogma and determined ignorance play a formative role in bypassing facts, history and legal rights, and retaining a flawed position on the subject.
@PeopleRiseUp1 The work towards independence retains full integrity with our history, and with the education we pass to our children. The message that 'settling' for an assembly puts out is one of compromise. We need to remain focused on returning Cornwall to what it was - this remains our legal right; it is the basis on which we make our claims and quote our history to support those claims. Even if it's a tall order under the current political stranglehold, it remains the only acceptable goal.
@PeopleRiseUp1 From my perspective, it's not a question of how we should foresee Cornwall supporting itself; it is merely the vision that should be worked-for. My issue with an Assembly for Cornwall is that it works as a compromise to the current situation and therefore accepts the circumstances which caused the wholesale loss of Cornish independence in the first place. I regularly admit my perspective is that of an idealist, but Cornish integrity cannot be compromised, in my view.
I am not only for reviving Cornish, but one day make it an official language of England. In my opinion English people are originally Britons, and Anglosaxons imposed their language on native population, except Wales and Cornwall.
I hope that for 20 or 30 years England will become Cornish speaking country.
@milekrizman I like your thinking! The more people learning Cornish, the better! Your idea would be an ideal way of England apologising for the events of 1549, where the Cornish were forced to speak English. Even if things didn't go as far as that, Cornwall should be issued an official apology with its border rights upheld and enforced by Cornish Stannary law.
@milekrizman Well, the English are officially the Angles (hence 'Angle-land'), Jutes, Saxons - all of Germanic origin. But you're right in saying that the original Britons were driven-out by the Saxons. Please see the video: "Original Britons - nothing in common with Germanic 'English' Saxons". Cornwall has been historically known as 'West Wales', & of course - the Welsh are our closest Celtic cousins. King Arthur was Cornish, & a defender of Britons. Europe now acknowledges our minority status.
@celticcornish - Yes King Arthur was Cornish, at least by birth, if not also by blood. Most definately he was one of us and an original Brython and a great defender of the Britons - people should listen to 'CelticCornish' as he is writing about little known but accurate historical facts. As was said above "I can't believe that anyone can doubt the Cornish case for independence - with the wealth of historical account and legal support in the EU", yet one sees the ignorance of those who deny truth
@cornubian Many thanks Cornubian. Even if people reading/commenting here don't appreciate the research involved, they can certainly verify everything for themselves - in fact, I would say don't trust a word I say, but use it as the basis for individual research. The beauty of our Cornish case is that it's so strong; this strength is echoed in EU validation & the tangible effects of that validation. I have run the gamut of oppositional comment, yet nothing offered diminishes our legal position.
@cornubian It remains interesting to me that most people countering this video make little-to-no attempt to focus their argument on the video content itself. Instead we see sweeping aspersions or emotional outbursts which do nothing but reflect back the level of ignorance of the individual commenting. I've asked for a mere 50 of the 100 legal points in the video to be factually countered, yet this apparently remains an insurmountable challenge. I wonder why this should be?
@fenfen99 I have absolutely no respect for an individual such as yourself. One thing worse than your apparent lack of care concerning our history is your apparent lack of empathy for the people who do. You presume that because many Cornish people do not currently know their history, they will never care about it when they do learn of it; your attitude and presumptions are wrong and insulting to our land and people.
@fenfen99 The 'point' you make about declaring oneself English over Cornish is not reversible in the way you have suggested. England has harmed Cornwall over centuries - not the other way around; an English identity was wrongly forced upon Cornish people. How much Cornish history do you know? Cornish people were forced to abandon their own celtic language for English; their 'filthy' culture was scorned & belittled. How dare you disrespect our privilege to care/defend our history of independence?
@celticcornish pretty pathetic mate , flthy culture , what a load of crap, who do you think you are some latterday sons of glendower , another pathetic shower ,trying to greate division when their isnt any, i bet your dna no different to mine ,, 5000 aprox voted of your party last year out of 530,000 odd , less than 500 speak cornish, after centuries of people moving in and out and intermarrige , your probably been bred out , england harmed cornwall lol ,where would you be without us
@TheMightOfTheEnglish The Cornish are a celtic people with celtic history, 'mate'. Your views on genetic purity and dominant language change nothing about European Minority status, legal rights or recognition. Kernow never requested to be part of England. England held no vote. England has done for itself what it wanted in Kernow, so where we would be without the hand of English politics is in a time/place with more integrity, and an ability to directly affect our own positive outcomes.
@celticcornish the cornish were celtic, as were the iceni of east anglia , and so on all through the land , we all talked celtic ,before the romans came , and before the anglo saxon ,danes vikings and so on, thecelts wernt even the original hunter gatherers who llived here , the celts originated from around the black sea region, irish celts from spanish areas, im not saying yourself,but some of these extreme cornsh people,who are anti english,wont do your cause any good
@TheMightOfTheEnglish I'm not refuting the dispersement of celts, however you need only read history as it relates to the celts of Cornwall to understand that they had exceptionally low mobility patterns. Their activities were concentrated in the extreme south west, and their border respected and defined throughout history. The Cornish were regarded as 'strangers' from 'West Wales'; their language was 'filithy' and was challenged through targeted ethnic violence in 1549.
@TheMightOfTheEnglish The general dispersement of celtic tribes was westward and northward to the extremes of the British isles - this was a direct reaction to Saxon invasion, and is the reason why the 5 celtic nations (including Cornwall) have been identified accordingly; why celtic cultural pointers and artifacts dominated in greater concentration than anywhere else on the British Isles. The fact that Cornwall is a celtic nation cannot be disputed - the evidence IS there in huge quantity.
@TheMightOfTheEnglish I agree that anti-English sentiments don't help the Cornish cause, but I communicate with many intelligent English people who DO understand Cornwall's case and support it. The more removed from emotion this issue becomes, the clearer people see the logic. You will not see me attacking English people - even though I have been subject to verbal attack from some ignoramuses - no matter where they originate. History is on our side, and so is the EU. We retain a strong position.
@celticcornish to survive ,you,d have to go cap in hand to the EU, like all the smaller eu nations, get hand outs, insted of us telling you what to do, europe would be. if certain cornish people burn the cross of saint george,holiday homes ,and are openly hostile , then why sould english holiday makers go there.cornwall depends on its summer income, like the isle of man,if they come to england now , they have to pay for various operations ,they cant use our nhss as the rest of us
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Under political England, Cornwall is no different than a slave who is told he is free because he has a little food on his plate and a roof over his head, but a chain around his neck. Seeking EU help is infinitely better than being centred in a 'subservient economy' of seasonal tourism. The big picture requires forward thinking - not short-term sustainence which destroys hope for change and political/economical health in our historic, celtic nation of historic difference.
@celticcornish surely you cant say that you would be better under the EU as a seperate country , ask the fishermen down there what they think of european interferrence and the common fisheries act, cornish fishermen have no time for the french or spanish fishermen, . it was supposed to be a common market , not a united states of europe , we have never had a vote ,on these foreigners ,who basically dont care about this country ,making laws that we havent voted on.,
@TheMightOfTheEnglish I unequivocally believe that the integrity of my Cornish nation overrules all. Am I idealistic? Yes. In a world of financial failings, integrity becomes even more important to people and their livelihoods. You make a valid point about fisherman and their thoughts on all foreign fishing in local waters. Their perspective is driven by their own motivations for survival; they are valid, but not in-line with the needs of the nation as a whole. Again, I accept I am an idealist.
@celticcornish again ,what cornish nation, all of you sould have dna taken and compare it to say 500,000 devon people , if the results say you are different by a large majority .and you feel that you want to run your own affairs so be it, i reckon after a thousand years , the blood has been thinned and mixed ,to say that the cornish of a thousand years ago had a valid claim to be seperate, to , apart from history hundreds of years ago ,your claim as a nation, isnt as strong.
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Again, it's not about DNA. SELF-IDENTIFYING Cornishmen are as valid in their hopes for Cornish integrity as 'genetically pure' Cornishmen. This is about the historic law of our land and self-identifying Cornishmen who express concerns about our compromised constitutional status.
@celticcornish the cornish mp who wants a cornish government within england, like the welsh and manx , that is different,, but that would be unfair on us,, why. the scots in the scottish parliament, also sit in london, they can make a difference in what happens here in england, yet english mps have no say in scottish day to day affairs , the welsh the same, free prescriptions, and grants to, why sould they have the best in both worlds ,when we have to pay for the lot ,
@celticcornish if everyone in this land wanted self determination ,youd have a right mess,with laws etc changing from county to county ,you wouldnt know were you were, anyway enough said,ive had my rant lol, mean no offence to any cornishmen, or women, just have to watch the looney radical cornish fundamentalists lol,cornwall and the rest of england,wales and britain,fought off invasion attempt after invasion attempt,through centuries together fought side by side we are the same,if different
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Change is always challenging so you're correct that it wouldn't be easy or necessarily tidy. Casting scenarios aside, the purpose of this channel is to educate Cornish men and women (and all other interested parties), in Cornish history. I attempt to do so from a researched and justifiable position. Cornish men and woman know of themselves and their land through history, and this history currently has insufficient exposure. History/education - itself - is not lunacy.
@celticcornish i just dont know how500,000 people could afford to run cornwall ,and expect to keep what services it has today to upkeep everything , the people of cornwall are treated no differently today than any other part of england, they have the same laws ,religion ,the whole system is the same, you have MPs in westminster , ,we all have an argument on government , on jobs ,on everything, . to talk of being treated differently,or being percecuted today or looked down on is nonsense .
@TheMightOfTheEnglish An idealist stance can't possibly answer every question in terms of starting a new framework and economy. Idealism requires faith, hope, work and the pursuit of righteousness. I have already mentioned that risk is an element, but to accept risk is to accept hope for positive change. I have no answers; just hopes which are founded upon a future of integrity which links with our past. Everything starts as an idea, or the revival of an original idea - legally justified.
@TheMightOfTheEnglish - Are you writing from some kind of script? This starts to sound like UK govt propaganda as to why people should be swayed away from the nationalist cause. What is your agenda "TheMightOfTheEnglish" (what a ridiculous name btw)? Have you checked out any of your "English" Cities lately? I think that you are the one who really needs to have a chat with yourself...
@TheMightOfTheEnglish You are misguided. You see this as 'division', the Cornish people see it as their right to a truthful education regarding their history. Your fear does not negate our right to understanding who we are as a people. Try to erase history if you can. Why not buy-up all the history books you can in the hope that they won't fall into Cornish hands! Don't make me laugh. If England is to have any 'might', it must first establish it's strength on a basis of truth.
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Do you doubt that the Saxons labelled us "Cornishemen", "filthy"? Read history. Time and time again there are 'them and us' scenarios. Wake up; regardless as to what we speak now, the native language of Kernow was Kernewek - a Brethonic Celtic language. Our land - Kernow - retains every one of its rights; these rights are just politically overshadowed. We as a people lose nothing to this overshadowing - lest we lose our pride and integrity.
@celticcornish your going back a thousand years , and with a population of only half a million just over , and all the emigration and immigration in and out of cornwall, ,is there any who can say yes ,im a hundred percent cornish, youve a language ,brought back from extinction, totally useless in the modern world, kids would be better taught spanish or a language that they can use abroad., we can all moan about central government , tell me how cornwall would benefit by becoming a seperate
@TheMightOfTheEnglish The mobility patterns of Celts were marginal after being dispersed by Saxon invasion. Only in recent times - with the advent of easy transportation, in a freely mobile society - has mobility increased significantly. 100% Cornish? I've already said it's not about genetic purity, it's about the law of the land.... the land that genetically 'pure' OR self-identifying Cornishmen inherit. Our Celtic language - whether spoken widely or not is a vital identifier of our difference.
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Language is not merely a communication tool; the importance of the revival of the Cornish language extends to defining who we are as a people - whether you like it, appreciate it, or scorn it. The benefit to a return to independent status is the just and legal freedom for Cornwall to seek it's own future - influenced by its own, self-interested politics. Beyond 'tangible' benefits, the benefit is integrity - a return to our former status by LEGAL requirement of our land.
@TheMightOfTheEnglish What profits it any nation to fear division if it's whole is based on a lie? All must hope that the UK builds a greater sense of unity through an acceptance of just, legal division - whole endorsed by Europe, with its balanced overview on what the history is of it's member states - and the borders which must be reinstated! Don't fear progress my friend, welcome it. The European court is there for us all!
@celticcornish apply to be seperate by all means ,but throwing insults at england, well, imagine if we boycotted cornish butter ,or fish, or toll our roads going in and out, go to devon insted for holidays, all regions of this country could have a case for seperation, the normans shat ,pardon my french ,on all of us , over a 5th of england is still owned by the norman decendants,the class system is alive and kicking , i dont think you could survive on your own,.without outside investment
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Again, you will see no insults aimed at the English by me on my channel. I agree that independent survival would be tough; not all have an ability to think beyond the present, or are brave enough to act based on forward thinking. Forward thinking is risky, but many risks are worthy of the pursuit for a greater good. Please remember that Cornwall is run by an administration installed by Westminster; it's economy is an English economy so there's nothing to boycott.
@celticcornish westminster runs us all, a more local form of government may be better , but some here are going on about independence, local councils ,everywhere are even worse than westminster , little hitlers ,when saying who can have what , what makes a cornwall government any different than a council or central government,,the people in power ,are in power , the rest arnt, they all speak with forked tongues,india has its own government now, the rich are even richer ,the poor even poorer
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Independence is our historic right; whether you are aware or not, Cornwall was assimilated by England; it was never party to incorporation by Act of Union. That remains a fact. Westminster has no right to administer Cornwall - it is as simple as that. If you can show me any legal details revealing where it was that Cornish Stannary law was invalid in-face of a formal Act of Union with England, I'll consider my position on the subject. The integrity of Cornwall is key.
@TheMightOfTheEnglish A Cornish administration placed by it's Stannary Parliament would be charged with the task of reassessing the role of Cornwall in a larger UK economy. Boycotting Cornwall based on it's new administration would merely be a case of 'sour grapes'. Again, emotion MUST be removed. The English must not see the whole issue as a REJECTION of them, but as a REINFORCEMENT of Cornish identity, and the Cornish law of the land - which remains as legitimate as we are in our difference.
@celticcornish its not sour grapes , at all, the language of some of the cornish seperatists , theres no hostlity at all on cornwall from the english public, yes ,its had a different past ,a 1000 years ago, there are differences , just as other parts of the uk has different history and customs etc,, the cornwall liberation front or army whoever they are ,they are the ones who are openly hostile , burning our flag ,threats of bombing, name calling the english ,totally counter productive
@TheMightOfTheEnglish I'm not defending hostile actions here, and none of my comments have ever defended hostile actions. Personally, I believe hostile actions achieve nothing and actually have counter-productive effects. However, the hostile actions of some does not mean that the case is invalid. Some choose hostility for attention, others like - myself - would rather educate people and empower reason via legal recourse in European Court. You do fail to recognise just how different Cornwall is.
@celticcornish thats why im a bit wound up, when i thought goods things about cornwall , we ,and soldiers from cornwall, had their fill of that sort of thing in northern ireland, the decent people of cornwall want to reject these people,, im saying if thats the views of cornish on the rest of england, then ,why sould english as you say ,go to cornwall, buy their goods ,entertain them, ive come across some welsh in N wales like that, ignorant in the extreme
@TheMightOfTheEnglish - I will make a hypothesis: that if I was to make statements that the English were "filthy" or their culture, or that English people were "pathetic" or "crap" then I could be called racist or at the very least insulting and demeaning. Therefore your comments are just shameful and expose the weakness of any argument that you have, otherwise you would not degenerate into the use of abuse as you have. Also pls remember incitement of racial hatred is against English law.......
@fenfen99 It appears that despite your 'interest' in Cornish history, you do not have empathy for those Cornish people who do care about it. For shame. This channel will continue to seek, inform & inspire the Cornish people you speak of who do not yet know of their history and language, in the hope that when they do learn about it, they will care about it more than yourself. The 'big deal' is honour, integrity, truth and moral fortitude, my friend - all important elements of life to some.
@fenfen99 I have never claimed that ancestry precludes one from association with a particular identity, but I like to think that in embracing a culture and identity, people attempt to understand the responsibilities they have AS INDIVIDUALS to that nation. Look, I really don't care whether history inflames, impassions, inspires you, or bores you senseless.... just recognise that the world does not revolve around you, or anyone else who think they can take it upon themselves to downgrade history.
@fenfen99 And.... for the record, it is not necessary to go back to 'pre-historic' times to identify the political harm done to Cornwall through repetitive breech of it's Common Law - a law of land which is still intact and recognized by European council.
@fenfen99 One should always have a healthy respect for the nation and people you choose to be part of I. May I suggest that - before moving to Cornwall - you start to care about the interests of Cornish people and the sacred celtic land they inherited?
@fenfen99 It's easy for you - an individual who cares not of historical struggle and sacrifice - to say that the issue doesn't matter to you, but being of Cornish descent gives one a different perspective. Many ancestors of contemporary Cornish people were murdered by English people; perhaps you have such little regard for their ancestors that you have the luxury not to care about this.... I can assure you, other do not. Even Bishop Bill understands the importance of 1549 to Cornish people.
@fenfen99 Whether you move to Cornwall and enjoy the fruits of its land, history/culture or not, there are people who care about it's long, rich, independent history, and therefore it's constitutional status. Some people choose to absorb the essence and sacredness of their surroundings, rather than enjoy them on a superficial level; that is their choice. And the digging-out of the Tamar has already been suggested.... and from what I understand, some shovels are ready for action!
@fenfen99 You are misguided. This isn't about hate; it's about LEGAL/MORAL ETHNIC RIGHTS. This Channel represents our correct history which Cornish peopkle (and people from other nations), have a right to know. The issue may not matter to you, but Cornish people (including those who do consider its independent history definitive ), should know exactly where it is they are living and why it - as a land - has meaning for them as individuals.
Kernewek a vedha kowsys yn Kernow ha Syllan a-hes, keffres ha radn Densher a’n West ha Keresk, saw woja Kas Goon Hingston yn 936, My’tern Athelstan a’n Sowson a worras an Kernowyon ’mes a Keresk ha deklarya gladn est Dowr Tamar dhe vos or y wlaskor – ha ma’n or na hwath ena yn jedh hedhyw, heb dowt an dra! Yth eron ni ow kwaytyas del wra an Kernowegoryon oll avoncya war-barth ma’l bos degys an tavas pella yn termyn a vedn dos.
@cornubian Me na vadna cowz a Sowznack! But, for those in English-speaking nations: 936 Athelstan sets Cornish border as River Tamar. All Cornish people north of the border were sent back to Cornwall. “Exeter was cleansed of its defilement by wiping out that filthy (Cornish) race”. Kernow rag nevra!
genetic evidence shows that well over 3/4 of British ancestors came from eastern spain 15,000 - 7,500 years ago the type R1b (essentially were last hunter gathers left in ice age Europe, interestingly the other groups was left in the central balkans- they migrated to central Europe/ Germany, (type I) type R1a occupied area of russia). Later invasion never contributed less than 5% of our gene's. The Celtic and Saxon invasion made an almost negligible difference. Celtic nationalism is a LOL.
@HellenicCharge I've gone through the 'genetic' argument before. My response is the same now as it was before. I don't validate it in-face of a wealth of overwhelming historical account and an exhaustive trail of legal rights which are even upheld and endorsed by the EU. I question genetic studies and their motives since they are usually sponsored by entities with vested interests. Genetic studies mean nothing if there is little to no means of assessing impartiality and correct science.
@HellenicCharge You'll come back and say 'you trust your questionable history over modern science', to which I will simply answer "yes" - in the same way that I'd prefer a hand-built vehicle to a factory production model. When historical accounts tally from different perspectives, there is no reason to smell a rat.... but plenty of reason to smell a rat in the case of questionable science.
@HellenicCharge Ahh... the issue of faith, 'science' & religion. Failing to present anything credible in a world tired of flawed 'scientific models' you resort to religious accusations which would surely mean you could at-least derive some personal gratification in your belief that the world is as small as your mind is. Alas, this thread doesn't address faith of any kind, it addresses documented history & legal rights which are answerable thusly. Here's your tail, exit that way....
@HellenicCharge Sounds as though you have specific belief-system issues. Problem is, you pick your poison in this world.... presented science can be as much of a belief system as a particular religious conviction - both intrinsically rely on the words of others, beyond a personal sense of blind faith - again you pick your poison. The side I present with this issue has substantially-documented history and legal endorsements in its favour, hence science simply presents just another belief system.
@HellenicCharge Rarely was anything ever 'agreed-upon' in history, my friend - yet this history remain verifiable from many different perspectives and legal accounts.
@HellenicCharge "Genetic studies" - the greatest tool for enforcing the political status quo in the minds of those promoting collectivist imperialism. Science screams it has the answer - yet just who is supposed to accept it as wholesale 'capital-T' Truth? Surely not those with an ability to think for themselves. Nativity of blind acceptance relating to politically-motivated 'science' - that's the real "LOL" here!
if cornwall isnt england why is it connected to it and why did it leave wales and become a part of england and before you say well there is a cornish language i will say that it is connected to the hull of the uk that language it is the language the hull of britain spoke before the latin arrived to the shores of britain and before you say that the english are anglo saxon and norman i will say there is still celtic blood in england and if you say no there isnt then what is north england
@EnglandPerson Are you serious? You really think connectedness relates - in a definitive way - to historic national ethnic/cultural/legal boundaries? 'Angle'-land - the land of the Angles/Jutes/Saxons/Normans - grew-up AROUND Celtic settlements, of which Celtic Kernow with its definitively Celtic people, was one. Kernewek is an ancient Celtic language which defines its ancient people. Displaced languages/Celtic bloodlines existed; it doesn't weaken Kernow's case to acknowledge that.
@EnglandPerson You propose to weaken Kernow's rights by citing a notion of diluted diversity, yet this approach is doomed before it starts. Kernow is recognized by the European Union as an ancient Celtic Kingdom; home to ancient Celtic people who spoke an ancient Celtic language; these people were historically recognized as separate from the people who eventually settled around them & to whom they took up arms against. As for your belief that Cornwall left Wales & became England - I'm at a loss!
@EnglandPerson The Cornish & the Welsh are Celtic cousins - they are not the same people from the same nation! Cornwall may have been known as 'West Wales', but this was not geographically literal! Remember: England assumed political control over all Celtic nations - to a greater or lesser degree; this fact does not presuppose that any Celtic nation 'signed-up' to be part of England or that England had the right to assimilate it. Kernow's legal rights are far more extensive than you appreciate.
@EnglandPerson You have not read history if you believe that the Cornish language was not distinct and specifically definitive of Cornish people. It will interest you to know that in 1549 the Cornish rose-up against the English as part of the Prayer Book Rebellion, which was the result of the English attempting to force the Cornish to translate the 'filthy' language of their prayer books into English. Seriously..... you need to read a substantial amount more of history before you sound-off here!
cornubian 1 month ago
@fenfen99 The point is Cornwall historically defended itself from invasion - it preserved itself for a vastly greater period in time than it wasn't able to. Beyond that, its laws defending a right to independence still exist and have never been nullified. Kernow has ignored rights through assimilation as a 'county' of England. It's time that the Cornish and English know the truth. What else can I present to you if you have already decided that this presentation is not for you?
celticcornish 2 months ago
@celticcornish the basques are the original europeans,the original americans(solutreans),the people that gave rise to white people.yet this is not taught at school.You can tell the so called "jews" own the media,the universities etc.Pass it the fuck on damn it....JUSTICE the basques are a holy people thats why the "jews"(edomites/khazars) concealed this....go barça the decent people are with u
TheBasqueLand 1 month ago
@fenfen99 Okay, fine - my apologies. Your perspective didn't nullify my own research, and it doesn't compromise my presentation of that research.
celticcornish 2 months ago
@fenfen99 Cornwall defended itself in the past - at the time of Roman invasion and after.... few know that. This defense strengthened Cornish identity until it was lost in relatively-recent times by nothing more than illegal assimilation. There is no goal to insult from behind a computer or anywhere else. Many cannot handle the truth and hence anger/frustration/hurt feelings result.
celticcornish 2 months ago
@fenfen99 You have nothing to prove to me, sir.
celticcornish 2 months ago
@fenfen99 No - don't be angry with the English. Educate them, as I attempt to do. An educated Englishman is a good friend of this channel, as you can see if you see comments from a few people who started out belligerent, but came around to a position of respect-through-information. Anger achieves little.... winning minds in support of truth achieve much.
celticcornish 2 months ago
Great, love the way small minded nationalistic nutters come crawling out of the woodwork in places like this.
soupdragon151 2 months ago
@soupdragon151 Love they way that deranged imperialists tag historic people 'nationalistic nutters'. Comes with your territory I guess. The imperialist mindset can't contemplate difference. It merely wishes to assimilate and degrade, hoping that the ignorant stay ignorant, and vote accordingly. I can understand that a "place like this" has no location in your imperialist mindset of live-in-the-moment ignorance.
celticcornish 2 months ago
Cornwall is not, and never has been, a country - it is merely a County of England
Rigmaster22 3 months ago
@Rigmaster22 and so-says the ill-informed, and so it must be true? Here is a video with 100 points, and all you can do is say that it 'hasn't been' and 'is not'. A great contribution and counter-argument. Find 100 points nullifying these 100 points.... that will be a comment with a point.
celticcornish 2 months ago
I'm with you all the way!! Anyone who comes from Kernow feels the same.
stillceaser 3 months ago
@celticcornish, who are you to say such a thing is a farce, a person can identify themselves however they like. I believe the last native Cornish speaker last name was 'Davey', an English surname. He probably lived a genuine Cornish culture as a fisherman near St Ives turn of the century. His blood s that of an Englishman but will be more Cornish than anyone you know. All you are doing is demonizing, 'the evil anglo saxons', in a bid to make yourself feel superior.
harveyshideout 3 months ago
@harveyshideout History is not a farce - look it up. History supersedes surnames. It's nothing to do with 'demonizing'.... it's everything to do with historical rights. Until you appreciate just what they are, don't make assumptions about what the cause is.
celticcornish 2 months ago
I hope the Cornish get independence and freedom,I'm from Scotland so we know how it feels,in 5 years we might even be a fully independent nation again
superraptor65 4 months ago
@superraptor65 Thank you sir; I do hope you get full independence soon. We all share the same compromised history, so a win for one is an eventual win for all. Our rights are a 'deck of cards' if you will.
celticcornish 2 months ago
Even though it was way too long I thought all the points were very interesting. So, I'm now a supporter of Cornish identity and realise that it's separate from England. I know many people who travel down from Scotland and holiday in Cornwall saying it's a great place so I'll have to get a train down to see what it's like for myself.
MrRabioza 4 months ago
@MrRabioza Thank you sir. My hope to reach yourself and others like you are the ONLY reason why this channel exists.
celticcornish 2 months ago
yeah like kids on the dole really give a fuck about King Athelstan
themightyrara 4 months ago
@themightyrara Nothing to argue with, unfortunately. With time on their hands, they may start to care about something though, and this is as worthy a thing to care about as anything.
celticcornish 2 months ago
You can post as many pro cornish videos as you like .... YOUR ALL STILL ENGLISH lol aint jack shit you can do about it lol
SICKBOY687 5 months ago
@SICKBOY687 Cause you say so SickBoy? Present 100 oppositional points to this video and maybe then I'll start to believe you; otherwise sit down and deal with the fact that you've contributed nothing other than ignorance.
celticcornish 2 months ago
celticcornish why dont we meet up
T1NY0808 5 months ago
@T1NY0808 Sure - why don't we.
celticcornish 2 months ago
@T1NY0808 What will we talk about? Will you choose to change my mind with your fists, or will we have a civilised discussion of Celtic rights over a pub lunch? Either way, my time is either well-spent educating you, or wasted on your determined ignorance. Neither will be served better in person, and neither will be affected by our meeting.
celticcornish 2 months ago
is cornwalls main industry ice cream selling or candy floss selling
T1NY0808 5 months ago
@T1NY0808 Its industry has no bearing on its historical truth as a nation of people directly related to their culture and land - and it is that which goes over your head in your attempt to belittle its financial status.
celticcornish 2 months ago
Cornish is English. Looked at a map lately? Or a globe? Or a ******* list of countries?
HELLJUMP3R7 6 months ago
@HELLJUMP3R7 Ahh, so the answer lies in a contemporary map/globe - how could I have missed that? I suppose that if someone told you that the world was flat again and gave you an article to read that said as much, you'd believe it, yes? I tell you what, I'll read history and understand just why contemporary maps are based on illegal breeches of Celtic boundaries, while you keep believing that they were immaculately formed from into the Mother-nation that you see today - okay?
celticcornish 2 months ago
We are circulating a petition calling on the government to recognise the Cornish as a National minority. It has been created by a Cornish person who is not a member of any political party or organisation but who is very concerned at what is happening in Cornwall. Please sign it and pass it on to your friends. We want to protect what there is left before all is lost !:
h t tp ://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/2835
CornishNeverEnglish 6 months ago
For those who are interested, the name of the Cornish flag in the ancient Cornish language (Kernewek) is:
"Gwynn ha Du"
English="The White and the Black" from smelting a cross of white tin ore across the black stone from which it came. It is linked to Peran (St Piran) one of the National Patron Saints of Kernow (Cornwall). Peran landed and preached at Perranporth. This has a ruin of one of the oldest churchs in the British Isles. Others say it is thebinding of Christ and pagan Cornwall.
cornubian 6 months ago
The Bretons, many of whom came to Briezh (Brittany) from Kernow (Cornwall) in the 5th, 6th and 7th centuries flew the same flag but in reverse to the Cornish. This was (and still is) called in Breton "Gwen ha Du". It is a black cross on a white background. It represents the Britons and Cornish in their new land across the sea. This flag became the Breton Naval Flag. It was flown by the winning Breton contingent at the 'Combat of the Thirty' in 1351AD. The flag is shown on a painting from 1480AD
cornubian 6 months ago
THESE PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY OF IRISH CATHOLIC DESCENT LIVING IN CORNWALL JUST TRYING TO WHIP UP HATRED .....TROUBLE MAKERS
TheTwollocks 6 months ago
@TheTwollocks Sure.... it's all about hatred.... can't be about historical truth and rights. Can't be about historical integrity or identity? Can't be about righteousness, land and culture. Can't be about heritage or ancestry? Can't be about simple pride? Instead it's about hatred. That must be it.
celticcornish 2 months ago
the cornish are a viking n basque mix not sure why they think they are celts tho as the celts are r1a n the cornish are r1b
TheBasqueLand 6 months ago
@TheBasqueLand I'm sure you base your opinion on some research you have done, as do I. What else can I present to you that will change your mind? The videos here speak for themselves; the consensus of those having done similar research supports the perspectives presented here.
celticcornish 2 months ago
500 reasons... but only one video as to why you are a greedy weirdo!
mellowNdark 6 months ago
@mellowNdark Yes - 500 legitimate historical reasons - as presented. Greedy and weird.... how so? Greedy because I feel that Cornwall should have back its legal, historic rights? Weird because there can't be a version of truth which deviates from a mass consumption of popular history put forward by an imperialist mindset?
celticcornish 2 months ago
Once I finish my current degree in languages, I'm learning every Celtic language. I already speak Irish near-fluently (still working on), but after I get totally fluent I'm learning Scots' Gaelic, Manx, then Welsh, Cornish and Breton. Not that I put your language behind others, but I'll find it easier to learn the three Goidelic languages first because they're more similar. Though I'm Irish, I see myself as a very pan-Celtic person and I want to help preserve and restore all of our identities.
IamDaReAlSeaN 6 months ago
@IamDaReAlSeaN Excellent. If only there were more like yourself.
celticcornish 2 months ago
brits out
fitzy545 7 months ago
Well some people realise this, except the ignorants of course, Britain is nothing more than an artificial state that the London elite are trying to propagate as other wise just for the boasting rights of the British empire and to pretend it still exists.
This union started with two sovereign nations, Scotland and England, they are the real nations simple living under a treaty, a 'treaty of union' that has well passed it's sell by date, to a state of rancidness.
Time to end it once and for all!
segano1 7 months ago
People, we have to be careful. If Cornwall gain independence they will cut off supplies of pasties and England will fall.
whitbyjet65 7 months ago
@whitbyjet65 Ahh the pasties. Don't worry, free commerce will prevail as it does between the West and China.
celticcornish 2 months ago
DNA Research by Stephen Oppenheimer had disproven the victorian myth that Celts were cleansed by Germanic tribes.In fact 80% of British DNA comes from the earliest settlers who were here long before celtic and saxon culture was imposed by replaced ruling classes.The general population has never changed.
JohnPurchaseArt 8 months ago
@JohnPurchaseArt I also have an opposing DNA video posted. I guess your guy knows more than mine? Perhaps he has more credibility and would like to somehow present his greater case for abject truth? The thing is, I have a DNA video AND a historical research video, both which concur and present a perspective which dictates my historical understanding. Perhaps you only have a DNA presentation? Either way, your presentation has no more legitimacy than mine. You say potato.....
celticcornish 2 months ago
Who gives a shit, we'll all be building mosques for allah soon, then you cornish can wank on about human rights and independence to them, good luck, I'm off to Canada.
stonerosesphil 10 months ago
@stonerosesphil Cornish rights aren't about right wing liberalism, they're about the TRUTH. Cornwall is not trying to change, restructure or defraud England out of anything, so why presuppose it's the goal of the Cornish to weaken the nation of England? Kernow was not historically part of England, so what exactly would England actually surrender in recognising Cornish TRUTH? And If you think you won't encounter sweeping right wing liberalism in Canada, you've got another think coming....
celticcornish 10 months ago
@celticcornish I hope your cause succeeds, but the English government is too busy appeasing muslims and other 3rd world people to care about the Cornish. I truly hope your cause succeeds
angus1000001 5 months ago
@angus1000001 I appreciate your support. This channel is really about the principal and Truth - it may be part of other faint voices out there; it may inspire few and aggravate many..... it probably won't help bring about any form of political change, but the truth which is behind Kernow and it's people must be spoken and heard by those who are open to learning something meaningful, if they care. Cornishmen, in particular must know the precise, meaningful history which defines them.
celticcornish 5 months ago
@stonerosesphil I'm sick of people like you saying "I'm off to Canada" or "Australia" If you think those countries are a paradise then you're deluded. You're doing no better then the people you slag off coming to Britain. You're just another immigrant yourself.
ojideagu 10 months ago
@stonerosesphil I'm Cornish.. Cornish Canadian actually.. and dude, don't come here if you're planning on escaping the Muslim problem, trust me. That's why I'm off to the States!
546046 10 months ago
@546046 Holly fuck, maybe we can all live in Greenland once the ice melts!
stonerosesphil 9 months ago
@stonerosesphil Or maybe you stop running away you fucking COWARD
CannabisCorporation 6 months ago
get over your self
075659178117 11 months ago
@075659178117 Get over YOURSELF and deal with the fact that our truth as a people is none of your business or concern. It will be read and understood - regardless of your simple-minded, supercilious, emotional opinions.
celticcornish 11 months ago 2
@celticcornish why is that considering i was born in cornwall does that not make me cornish ?
075659178117 11 months ago
@celticcornish and in this day and age who are you to have such a closed mind to that there is no power in britain its all in brussels
075659178117 11 months ago
@075659178117 'Britain' means nothing my imperialist friend. You speak of 'day and age' but the days of the British Empire have long gone as the world evolves to recognise it's many diverse cultures and ethnic peoples. It is you who remains in the dark age of imperialism - and you apparently do so waving a Cornish flag (as your icon), yet you have no idea what that flag means or how many people died to fly it in defense. You reduce Kernow to a mere destination; you insult our countRy and people.
celticcornish 11 months ago 2
@celticcornish all you will be votting for is to be another state in the Federal Europe whitch powers will be focused in brussels and Strasbourg and to me giving them the powers would be a betrail to all thows who fought and died for our freedom in 2 world wars and not just that where is it writen that you cant be Cornish and english ?
075659178117 11 months ago
@075659178117 Your point about being another state in federal Europe is fair and taken. I also take your point about two world wars. It doesn't benefit either of us to say that many have died in defense of rights. I can only say that the truth of Cornish culture/history must be understood, and ancestral integrity dictates that we at-least have government over ourselves as an independent people, in-touch with our cultural past. Understand that our very identity is compromised as-is.
celticcornish 2 months ago
@celticcornish and no i havent im just stating something thats all
075659178117 11 months ago
@celticcornish You're calling him simple-minded?!
HELLJUMP3R7 6 months ago
@HELLJUMP3R7 Where this issue is concerned, a 'simple-minded' individual is one who speaks without sufficient research, and it is my belief that everyone who does not understand the Cornish issue speaks without the benefit of research. I believe this because people have commented in ignorance and then come back months later to say that they were wrong and ill-informed. Read all of the posts on these videos and you we see minds changed. So yes; 'simple-minded' is also 'ill-informed'
celticcornish 2 months ago
so your saying you cant be Cornish and english then ?
or maybe cornish and english and british hay ?
075659178117 11 months ago
@075659178117 Dual Cornish-English identity is a farce based on a lack of knowledge, unless one has a Cornish mother and English father, for example. The difference in being Celtic Cornish and Saxon-Anglo is similar to the difference between black and white - and just as clear-cut when research is done and history is read. "British" it a description of convenience, and just as descriptive as "American"; it means little-to-nothing as far as roots and heritage goes.
celticcornish 11 months ago
@celticcornish - This is a very accurate summary of what real history (ie the truth as it is to be found in many under reported sources eg William Camden et al) teaches on this subject. Other could learn a lot from your posting. Meur ras.
cornubian 6 months ago
@cornubian Many thanks. It's a place to start - that's how I view it. Here is a presentation of 100 points; each point is researched and valid. Importantly - each point shakes the very foundation on which Cornwall is alleged to have any meaningful legal relationship with England. These 100 points are the equivalent to the Cross in Dracula's face as far as the nay-sayers are concerned yet the anger/spite which arises casts not a single shadow of doubt on their basis in fact.
celticcornish 6 months ago
Why is it the English government will happily accept and endorse Kosovo's declaration of independence as a seperate nation (When as far as I know, Kosovo was never a nation) and yet the English government refuses to accept or even acknowledge Cornwall's much more historically valid claim. The reason.of course is patently clear; Kosovo was formerly part of the 'Soviet Empire' and the English government will jump through hoops in order to help dismantle that empire.
brism32 11 months ago
Why is it that the English Government happily accepts and endorses Kosovo's declaration of independence when Kosovo (As far as I can tell) was never a separate nation, and yet, the English Government refuses to accept Cornwall's much more legitimate and historically valid claims for national status.
brism32 11 months ago
Cornwall is just another English county, get over it, becuase the government are sure as hell not going to change that.
Alex1M6 1 year ago
@Alex1M6 To ignoramuses who accept the status quo - the status quo will persist; to ignoramuses who believe governments run them, rather than the reverse - I agree, acceptance of injustice is a natural consequence. But alas - for those with heart and principals, there will be no 'getting over it'. You are not Cornish, you have no Cornish ancestors, you have no understanding and no investment in the issue..... We don't care what you or your government thinks of our objection to valid injustice.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@Alex1M6
Why is it the English government will happily accept and endorse Kosovo's declaration of independence as a seperate nation (When as far as I know, Kosovo was never a nation) and yet the English government refuses to accept or even acknowledge Cornwall's much more historically valid claim. The reason.of course is patently clear; Kosovo was formerly part of the 'Soviet Empire' and the English government will jump through hoops in order to help dismantle that empire.
brism32 11 months ago
@brism32 A valid point; proving that an artificial moral high ground can be assumed when addressing world injustices which are 'out of range', but when the injustices are in one's own backyard..... forget it! I marvel at the hypocrisy, especially when there is such an apparent 'walking on egg' political correctness which dominates in all other sectors of discussion.
celticcornish 11 months ago
@Alex1M6
Thank-you for your contribution; now just go play with your toys....now there's a good boy.
brism32 11 months ago
@Blackrapperable
Well I'm Welsh, and I whole-heartedly support Cornish independence from England. They deserve to be recognised as a separate country. They are the fifth home nation!
Glywysing942 1 year ago
@Glywysing942 We are indeed my Welsh cousin.... or perhaps we're the FIRST home nation?!!!! Joking aside, I'm sure you will agree that all of our respective Celtic homelands with their Brethonic Celtic peoples, speaking variations of their Brethonic Celtic languages have common challenges - we have all been illegally administered and governed, one way or another - and to greater or lesser degrees. Lechyd da!
celticcornish 1 year ago
@celticcornish
Indeed. I hope that within our lifetimes we'll see a Kernow separate from England. How popular is the idea of that in Cornwall exactly? Is it enough to actually make a difference or do most people just not care? I see a lot of cars driving around Wales with Cornish flags on them actually, always makes me smile.
Lechyd da... I guess that's the Cornish for iechyd da? I love the similarities between the languages, especially "good night" being exactly the same!
Glywysing942 1 year ago
@Glywysing942 I too hope for that. Many of the older generation Cornish know more of their history and difference, but immigration to Kernow has undoubtedly seen a fair-proportion of the population lack the consideration and care for our historic country. I remain upbeat because as we see more road signs in Cornish language (as well as English), people are inspired to research just why the Cornish spoke another language.. and there lies the beginning of a Celtic Cornish education of difference!
celticcornish 1 year ago
Mitakuye oyasin
BlueEyedCelt 1 year ago
@Blackrapperable It's a shame that your last comment here leaves nothing but a strong residue of PURE, UNADULTERATED IGNORANCE!
celticcornish 1 year ago
@Blackrapperable Case-in-point for your ignorance though. You identify people as Cornish, yet apparently the land of this specifically-identified group of people belongs to another land! If you were to call the Cornish, 'English' - as you call their land 'England', at least there would be some consistency in your lack of logic. Recognising the Cornish implicitly means you recognise their difference; and by implication that means a denial of the 'land of the Cornish' is PURE IGNORANCE.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@Blackrapperable How can anyone validate the opinion of a racist individual such as yourself. You've proved your racism against ethnically diverse peoples time and time again. Racist people have nothing to add to anything since their opinions as invalidated by their wholesale ignorance and inability to learn or educate themselves. Regardless, your racist obsession will do you no good. You are seen for what you are here, and on other videos. I will not allow racist ignorance here.
celticcornish 1 year ago
Yes CelticCornish you are right it is an insurmountable challenge - but I will get the ball rolling:
POINT 1:- ENDORSED=Cornish, along with Hebrew, are the only languages to have successfully been revived. Cornish is a completely distinct language from English and it is most definately not a dialect or degeneration - it is a language in its own right and it has now been officially recognised as a living language. Just like Arthur(?!?)and the Cornish Chough it did not and could not die haha!
cornubian 1 year ago
Here CelticCornish puts forward the challenge:- instead of people abusing one another (ie attacking the Cornish right to self-determination) people should either endorse the 100 points made in his vid OR identify, with grounds, which points they reject. I will therefore accept CC's challenge and begin the process:- -----
cornubian 1 year ago
Ha soce!
Fatla gena whye?
Betho whye lowenack.
Kernewek na Sowsenack!
cornubian 1 year ago
@PeopleRiseUp1 Personally, I can't believe that anyone can doubt the Cornish case for independence - with the wealth of historical account and legal support in the EU. Hurt feelings, imperialist dogma and determined ignorance play a formative role in bypassing facts, history and legal rights, and retaining a flawed position on the subject.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@PeopleRiseUp1 The work towards independence retains full integrity with our history, and with the education we pass to our children. The message that 'settling' for an assembly puts out is one of compromise. We need to remain focused on returning Cornwall to what it was - this remains our legal right; it is the basis on which we make our claims and quote our history to support those claims. Even if it's a tall order under the current political stranglehold, it remains the only acceptable goal.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@PeopleRiseUp1 From my perspective, it's not a question of how we should foresee Cornwall supporting itself; it is merely the vision that should be worked-for. My issue with an Assembly for Cornwall is that it works as a compromise to the current situation and therefore accepts the circumstances which caused the wholesale loss of Cornish independence in the first place. I regularly admit my perspective is that of an idealist, but Cornish integrity cannot be compromised, in my view.
celticcornish 1 year ago
Hy
I am not only for reviving Cornish, but one day make it an official language of England. In my opinion English people are originally Britons, and Anglosaxons imposed their language on native population, except Wales and Cornwall.
I hope that for 20 or 30 years England will become Cornish speaking country.
milekrizman 1 year ago
@milekrizman I like your thinking! The more people learning Cornish, the better! Your idea would be an ideal way of England apologising for the events of 1549, where the Cornish were forced to speak English. Even if things didn't go as far as that, Cornwall should be issued an official apology with its border rights upheld and enforced by Cornish Stannary law.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@milekrizman Well, the English are officially the Angles (hence 'Angle-land'), Jutes, Saxons - all of Germanic origin. But you're right in saying that the original Britons were driven-out by the Saxons. Please see the video: "Original Britons - nothing in common with Germanic 'English' Saxons". Cornwall has been historically known as 'West Wales', & of course - the Welsh are our closest Celtic cousins. King Arthur was Cornish, & a defender of Britons. Europe now acknowledges our minority status.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@celticcornish - Yes King Arthur was Cornish, at least by birth, if not also by blood. Most definately he was one of us and an original Brython and a great defender of the Britons - people should listen to 'CelticCornish' as he is writing about little known but accurate historical facts. As was said above "I can't believe that anyone can doubt the Cornish case for independence - with the wealth of historical account and legal support in the EU", yet one sees the ignorance of those who deny truth
cornubian 1 year ago
@cornubian Many thanks Cornubian. Even if people reading/commenting here don't appreciate the research involved, they can certainly verify everything for themselves - in fact, I would say don't trust a word I say, but use it as the basis for individual research. The beauty of our Cornish case is that it's so strong; this strength is echoed in EU validation & the tangible effects of that validation. I have run the gamut of oppositional comment, yet nothing offered diminishes our legal position.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@cornubian It remains interesting to me that most people countering this video make little-to-no attempt to focus their argument on the video content itself. Instead we see sweeping aspersions or emotional outbursts which do nothing but reflect back the level of ignorance of the individual commenting. I've asked for a mere 50 of the 100 legal points in the video to be factually countered, yet this apparently remains an insurmountable challenge. I wonder why this should be?
celticcornish 1 year ago
@fenfen99 I have absolutely no respect for an individual such as yourself. One thing worse than your apparent lack of care concerning our history is your apparent lack of empathy for the people who do. You presume that because many Cornish people do not currently know their history, they will never care about it when they do learn of it; your attitude and presumptions are wrong and insulting to our land and people.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@fenfen99 The 'point' you make about declaring oneself English over Cornish is not reversible in the way you have suggested. England has harmed Cornwall over centuries - not the other way around; an English identity was wrongly forced upon Cornish people. How much Cornish history do you know? Cornish people were forced to abandon their own celtic language for English; their 'filthy' culture was scorned & belittled. How dare you disrespect our privilege to care/defend our history of independence?
celticcornish 1 year ago
@celticcornish pretty pathetic mate , flthy culture , what a load of crap, who do you think you are some latterday sons of glendower , another pathetic shower ,trying to greate division when their isnt any, i bet your dna no different to mine ,, 5000 aprox voted of your party last year out of 530,000 odd , less than 500 speak cornish, after centuries of people moving in and out and intermarrige , your probably been bred out , england harmed cornwall lol ,where would you be without us
TheMightOfTheEnglish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish The Cornish are a celtic people with celtic history, 'mate'. Your views on genetic purity and dominant language change nothing about European Minority status, legal rights or recognition. Kernow never requested to be part of England. England held no vote. England has done for itself what it wanted in Kernow, so where we would be without the hand of English politics is in a time/place with more integrity, and an ability to directly affect our own positive outcomes.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@celticcornish the cornish were celtic, as were the iceni of east anglia , and so on all through the land , we all talked celtic ,before the romans came , and before the anglo saxon ,danes vikings and so on, thecelts wernt even the original hunter gatherers who llived here , the celts originated from around the black sea region, irish celts from spanish areas, im not saying yourself,but some of these extreme cornsh people,who are anti english,wont do your cause any good
TheMightOfTheEnglish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish I'm not refuting the dispersement of celts, however you need only read history as it relates to the celts of Cornwall to understand that they had exceptionally low mobility patterns. Their activities were concentrated in the extreme south west, and their border respected and defined throughout history. The Cornish were regarded as 'strangers' from 'West Wales'; their language was 'filithy' and was challenged through targeted ethnic violence in 1549.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish The general dispersement of celtic tribes was westward and northward to the extremes of the British isles - this was a direct reaction to Saxon invasion, and is the reason why the 5 celtic nations (including Cornwall) have been identified accordingly; why celtic cultural pointers and artifacts dominated in greater concentration than anywhere else on the British Isles. The fact that Cornwall is a celtic nation cannot be disputed - the evidence IS there in huge quantity.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish I agree that anti-English sentiments don't help the Cornish cause, but I communicate with many intelligent English people who DO understand Cornwall's case and support it. The more removed from emotion this issue becomes, the clearer people see the logic. You will not see me attacking English people - even though I have been subject to verbal attack from some ignoramuses - no matter where they originate. History is on our side, and so is the EU. We retain a strong position.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@celticcornish to survive ,you,d have to go cap in hand to the EU, like all the smaller eu nations, get hand outs, insted of us telling you what to do, europe would be. if certain cornish people burn the cross of saint george,holiday homes ,and are openly hostile , then why sould english holiday makers go there.cornwall depends on its summer income, like the isle of man,if they come to england now , they have to pay for various operations ,they cant use our nhss as the rest of us
TheMightOfTheEnglish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Under political England, Cornwall is no different than a slave who is told he is free because he has a little food on his plate and a roof over his head, but a chain around his neck. Seeking EU help is infinitely better than being centred in a 'subservient economy' of seasonal tourism. The big picture requires forward thinking - not short-term sustainence which destroys hope for change and political/economical health in our historic, celtic nation of historic difference.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@celticcornish surely you cant say that you would be better under the EU as a seperate country , ask the fishermen down there what they think of european interferrence and the common fisheries act, cornish fishermen have no time for the french or spanish fishermen, . it was supposed to be a common market , not a united states of europe , we have never had a vote ,on these foreigners ,who basically dont care about this country ,making laws that we havent voted on.,
TheMightOfTheEnglish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish I unequivocally believe that the integrity of my Cornish nation overrules all. Am I idealistic? Yes. In a world of financial failings, integrity becomes even more important to people and their livelihoods. You make a valid point about fisherman and their thoughts on all foreign fishing in local waters. Their perspective is driven by their own motivations for survival; they are valid, but not in-line with the needs of the nation as a whole. Again, I accept I am an idealist.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@celticcornish again ,what cornish nation, all of you sould have dna taken and compare it to say 500,000 devon people , if the results say you are different by a large majority .and you feel that you want to run your own affairs so be it, i reckon after a thousand years , the blood has been thinned and mixed ,to say that the cornish of a thousand years ago had a valid claim to be seperate, to , apart from history hundreds of years ago ,your claim as a nation, isnt as strong.
TheMightOfTheEnglish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Again, it's not about DNA. SELF-IDENTIFYING Cornishmen are as valid in their hopes for Cornish integrity as 'genetically pure' Cornishmen. This is about the historic law of our land and self-identifying Cornishmen who express concerns about our compromised constitutional status.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@celticcornish the cornish mp who wants a cornish government within england, like the welsh and manx , that is different,, but that would be unfair on us,, why. the scots in the scottish parliament, also sit in london, they can make a difference in what happens here in england, yet english mps have no say in scottish day to day affairs , the welsh the same, free prescriptions, and grants to, why sould they have the best in both worlds ,when we have to pay for the lot ,
TheMightOfTheEnglish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish My only concern remains the legal Cornish right to historic independence.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@celticcornish if everyone in this land wanted self determination ,youd have a right mess,with laws etc changing from county to county ,you wouldnt know were you were, anyway enough said,ive had my rant lol, mean no offence to any cornishmen, or women, just have to watch the looney radical cornish fundamentalists lol,cornwall and the rest of england,wales and britain,fought off invasion attempt after invasion attempt,through centuries together fought side by side we are the same,if different
TheMightOfTheEnglish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Change is always challenging so you're correct that it wouldn't be easy or necessarily tidy. Casting scenarios aside, the purpose of this channel is to educate Cornish men and women (and all other interested parties), in Cornish history. I attempt to do so from a researched and justifiable position. Cornish men and woman know of themselves and their land through history, and this history currently has insufficient exposure. History/education - itself - is not lunacy.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@celticcornish i just dont know how500,000 people could afford to run cornwall ,and expect to keep what services it has today to upkeep everything , the people of cornwall are treated no differently today than any other part of england, they have the same laws ,religion ,the whole system is the same, you have MPs in westminster , ,we all have an argument on government , on jobs ,on everything, . to talk of being treated differently,or being percecuted today or looked down on is nonsense .
TheMightOfTheEnglish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish An idealist stance can't possibly answer every question in terms of starting a new framework and economy. Idealism requires faith, hope, work and the pursuit of righteousness. I have already mentioned that risk is an element, but to accept risk is to accept hope for positive change. I have no answers; just hopes which are founded upon a future of integrity which links with our past. Everything starts as an idea, or the revival of an original idea - legally justified.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish - Are you writing from some kind of script? This starts to sound like UK govt propaganda as to why people should be swayed away from the nationalist cause. What is your agenda "TheMightOfTheEnglish" (what a ridiculous name btw)? Have you checked out any of your "English" Cities lately? I think that you are the one who really needs to have a chat with yourself...
cornubian 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish You are misguided. You see this as 'division', the Cornish people see it as their right to a truthful education regarding their history. Your fear does not negate our right to understanding who we are as a people. Try to erase history if you can. Why not buy-up all the history books you can in the hope that they won't fall into Cornish hands! Don't make me laugh. If England is to have any 'might', it must first establish it's strength on a basis of truth.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Do you doubt that the Saxons labelled us "Cornishemen", "filthy"? Read history. Time and time again there are 'them and us' scenarios. Wake up; regardless as to what we speak now, the native language of Kernow was Kernewek - a Brethonic Celtic language. Our land - Kernow - retains every one of its rights; these rights are just politically overshadowed. We as a people lose nothing to this overshadowing - lest we lose our pride and integrity.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@celticcornish your going back a thousand years , and with a population of only half a million just over , and all the emigration and immigration in and out of cornwall, ,is there any who can say yes ,im a hundred percent cornish, youve a language ,brought back from extinction, totally useless in the modern world, kids would be better taught spanish or a language that they can use abroad., we can all moan about central government , tell me how cornwall would benefit by becoming a seperate
TheMightOfTheEnglish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish The mobility patterns of Celts were marginal after being dispersed by Saxon invasion. Only in recent times - with the advent of easy transportation, in a freely mobile society - has mobility increased significantly. 100% Cornish? I've already said it's not about genetic purity, it's about the law of the land.... the land that genetically 'pure' OR self-identifying Cornishmen inherit. Our Celtic language - whether spoken widely or not is a vital identifier of our difference.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Language is not merely a communication tool; the importance of the revival of the Cornish language extends to defining who we are as a people - whether you like it, appreciate it, or scorn it. The benefit to a return to independent status is the just and legal freedom for Cornwall to seek it's own future - influenced by its own, self-interested politics. Beyond 'tangible' benefits, the benefit is integrity - a return to our former status by LEGAL requirement of our land.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish What profits it any nation to fear division if it's whole is based on a lie? All must hope that the UK builds a greater sense of unity through an acceptance of just, legal division - whole endorsed by Europe, with its balanced overview on what the history is of it's member states - and the borders which must be reinstated! Don't fear progress my friend, welcome it. The European court is there for us all!
celticcornish 1 year ago
@celticcornish apply to be seperate by all means ,but throwing insults at england, well, imagine if we boycotted cornish butter ,or fish, or toll our roads going in and out, go to devon insted for holidays, all regions of this country could have a case for seperation, the normans shat ,pardon my french ,on all of us , over a 5th of england is still owned by the norman decendants,the class system is alive and kicking , i dont think you could survive on your own,.without outside investment
TheMightOfTheEnglish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Again, you will see no insults aimed at the English by me on my channel. I agree that independent survival would be tough; not all have an ability to think beyond the present, or are brave enough to act based on forward thinking. Forward thinking is risky, but many risks are worthy of the pursuit for a greater good. Please remember that Cornwall is run by an administration installed by Westminster; it's economy is an English economy so there's nothing to boycott.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@celticcornish westminster runs us all, a more local form of government may be better , but some here are going on about independence, local councils ,everywhere are even worse than westminster , little hitlers ,when saying who can have what , what makes a cornwall government any different than a council or central government,,the people in power ,are in power , the rest arnt, they all speak with forked tongues,india has its own government now, the rich are even richer ,the poor even poorer
TheMightOfTheEnglish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Independence is our historic right; whether you are aware or not, Cornwall was assimilated by England; it was never party to incorporation by Act of Union. That remains a fact. Westminster has no right to administer Cornwall - it is as simple as that. If you can show me any legal details revealing where it was that Cornish Stannary law was invalid in-face of a formal Act of Union with England, I'll consider my position on the subject. The integrity of Cornwall is key.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish A Cornish administration placed by it's Stannary Parliament would be charged with the task of reassessing the role of Cornwall in a larger UK economy. Boycotting Cornwall based on it's new administration would merely be a case of 'sour grapes'. Again, emotion MUST be removed. The English must not see the whole issue as a REJECTION of them, but as a REINFORCEMENT of Cornish identity, and the Cornish law of the land - which remains as legitimate as we are in our difference.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@celticcornish its not sour grapes , at all, the language of some of the cornish seperatists , theres no hostlity at all on cornwall from the english public, yes ,its had a different past ,a 1000 years ago, there are differences , just as other parts of the uk has different history and customs etc,, the cornwall liberation front or army whoever they are ,they are the ones who are openly hostile , burning our flag ,threats of bombing, name calling the english ,totally counter productive
TheMightOfTheEnglish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish I'm not defending hostile actions here, and none of my comments have ever defended hostile actions. Personally, I believe hostile actions achieve nothing and actually have counter-productive effects. However, the hostile actions of some does not mean that the case is invalid. Some choose hostility for attention, others like - myself - would rather educate people and empower reason via legal recourse in European Court. You do fail to recognise just how different Cornwall is.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@celticcornish thats why im a bit wound up, when i thought goods things about cornwall , we ,and soldiers from cornwall, had their fill of that sort of thing in northern ireland, the decent people of cornwall want to reject these people,, im saying if thats the views of cornish on the rest of england, then ,why sould english as you say ,go to cornwall, buy their goods ,entertain them, ive come across some welsh in N wales like that, ignorant in the extreme
TheMightOfTheEnglish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish Again, I cannot identify any positive effects of using extremism when European Courts legally ascribe merit to our case.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@TheMightOfTheEnglish - I will make a hypothesis: that if I was to make statements that the English were "filthy" or their culture, or that English people were "pathetic" or "crap" then I could be called racist or at the very least insulting and demeaning. Therefore your comments are just shameful and expose the weakness of any argument that you have, otherwise you would not degenerate into the use of abuse as you have. Also pls remember incitement of racial hatred is against English law.......
cornubian 1 year ago
@fenfen99 It appears that despite your 'interest' in Cornish history, you do not have empathy for those Cornish people who do care about it. For shame. This channel will continue to seek, inform & inspire the Cornish people you speak of who do not yet know of their history and language, in the hope that when they do learn about it, they will care about it more than yourself. The 'big deal' is honour, integrity, truth and moral fortitude, my friend - all important elements of life to some.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@fenfen99 I have never claimed that ancestry precludes one from association with a particular identity, but I like to think that in embracing a culture and identity, people attempt to understand the responsibilities they have AS INDIVIDUALS to that nation. Look, I really don't care whether history inflames, impassions, inspires you, or bores you senseless.... just recognise that the world does not revolve around you, or anyone else who think they can take it upon themselves to downgrade history.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@fenfen99 And.... for the record, it is not necessary to go back to 'pre-historic' times to identify the political harm done to Cornwall through repetitive breech of it's Common Law - a law of land which is still intact and recognized by European council.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@fenfen99 One should always have a healthy respect for the nation and people you choose to be part of I. May I suggest that - before moving to Cornwall - you start to care about the interests of Cornish people and the sacred celtic land they inherited?
celticcornish 1 year ago
@fenfen99 It's easy for you - an individual who cares not of historical struggle and sacrifice - to say that the issue doesn't matter to you, but being of Cornish descent gives one a different perspective. Many ancestors of contemporary Cornish people were murdered by English people; perhaps you have such little regard for their ancestors that you have the luxury not to care about this.... I can assure you, other do not. Even Bishop Bill understands the importance of 1549 to Cornish people.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@fenfen99 Whether you move to Cornwall and enjoy the fruits of its land, history/culture or not, there are people who care about it's long, rich, independent history, and therefore it's constitutional status. Some people choose to absorb the essence and sacredness of their surroundings, rather than enjoy them on a superficial level; that is their choice. And the digging-out of the Tamar has already been suggested.... and from what I understand, some shovels are ready for action!
celticcornish 1 year ago
@fenfen99 You are misguided. This isn't about hate; it's about LEGAL/MORAL ETHNIC RIGHTS. This Channel represents our correct history which Cornish peopkle (and people from other nations), have a right to know. The issue may not matter to you, but Cornish people (including those who do consider its independent history definitive ), should know exactly where it is they are living and why it - as a land - has meaning for them as individuals.
celticcornish 1 year ago
Kernewek a vedha kowsys yn Kernow ha Syllan a-hes, keffres ha radn Densher a’n West ha Keresk, saw woja Kas Goon Hingston yn 936, My’tern Athelstan a’n Sowson a worras an Kernowyon ’mes a Keresk ha deklarya gladn est Dowr Tamar dhe vos or y wlaskor – ha ma’n or na hwath ena yn jedh hedhyw, heb dowt an dra! Yth eron ni ow kwaytyas del wra an Kernowegoryon oll avoncya war-barth ma’l bos degys an tavas pella yn termyn a vedn dos.
Kernow kensa!
cornubian 1 year ago
@cornubian Me na vadna cowz a Sowznack! But, for those in English-speaking nations: 936 Athelstan sets Cornish border as River Tamar. All Cornish people north of the border were sent back to Cornwall. “Exeter was cleansed of its defilement by wiping out that filthy (Cornish) race”. Kernow rag nevra!
celticcornish 1 year ago
genetic evidence shows that well over 3/4 of British ancestors came from eastern spain 15,000 - 7,500 years ago the type R1b (essentially were last hunter gathers left in ice age Europe, interestingly the other groups was left in the central balkans- they migrated to central Europe/ Germany, (type I) type R1a occupied area of russia). Later invasion never contributed less than 5% of our gene's. The Celtic and Saxon invasion made an almost negligible difference. Celtic nationalism is a LOL.
HellenicCharge 1 year ago
@HellenicCharge I've gone through the 'genetic' argument before. My response is the same now as it was before. I don't validate it in-face of a wealth of overwhelming historical account and an exhaustive trail of legal rights which are even upheld and endorsed by the EU. I question genetic studies and their motives since they are usually sponsored by entities with vested interests. Genetic studies mean nothing if there is little to no means of assessing impartiality and correct science.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@HellenicCharge You'll come back and say 'you trust your questionable history over modern science', to which I will simply answer "yes" - in the same way that I'd prefer a hand-built vehicle to a factory production model. When historical accounts tally from different perspectives, there is no reason to smell a rat.... but plenty of reason to smell a rat in the case of questionable science.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@celticcornish oh dear are you Christian too?
HellenicCharge 1 year ago
@HellenicCharge Ahh... the issue of faith, 'science' & religion. Failing to present anything credible in a world tired of flawed 'scientific models' you resort to religious accusations which would surely mean you could at-least derive some personal gratification in your belief that the world is as small as your mind is. Alas, this thread doesn't address faith of any kind, it addresses documented history & legal rights which are answerable thusly. Here's your tail, exit that way....
celticcornish 1 year ago
@celticcornish no i was taking the piss your reasoning cos it sounded christian like.
Im an ignostic nihilist and i bid you farewell.
HellenicCharge 1 year ago
@HellenicCharge Sounds as though you have specific belief-system issues. Problem is, you pick your poison in this world.... presented science can be as much of a belief system as a particular religious conviction - both intrinsically rely on the words of others, beyond a personal sense of blind faith - again you pick your poison. The side I present with this issue has substantially-documented history and legal endorsements in its favour, hence science simply presents just another belief system.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@celticcornish history is just a set of events agreed upon, subjective.
HellenicCharge 1 year ago
@HellenicCharge Rarely was anything ever 'agreed-upon' in history, my friend - yet this history remain verifiable from many different perspectives and legal accounts.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@HellenicCharge "Genetic studies" - the greatest tool for enforcing the political status quo in the minds of those promoting collectivist imperialism. Science screams it has the answer - yet just who is supposed to accept it as wholesale 'capital-T' Truth? Surely not those with an ability to think for themselves. Nativity of blind acceptance relating to politically-motivated 'science' - that's the real "LOL" here!
celticcornish 1 year ago
@celticcornish the ultimate lol is trololololo man :P
HellenicCharge 1 year ago
@HellenicCharge No... we've already established the ultimate "lol"... "man".
celticcornish 1 year ago
if cornwall isnt england why is it connected to it and why did it leave wales and become a part of england and before you say well there is a cornish language i will say that it is connected to the hull of the uk that language it is the language the hull of britain spoke before the latin arrived to the shores of britain and before you say that the english are anglo saxon and norman i will say there is still celtic blood in england and if you say no there isnt then what is north england
EnglandPerson 1 year ago
@EnglandPerson Are you serious? You really think connectedness relates - in a definitive way - to historic national ethnic/cultural/legal boundaries? 'Angle'-land - the land of the Angles/Jutes/Saxons/Normans - grew-up AROUND Celtic settlements, of which Celtic Kernow with its definitively Celtic people, was one. Kernewek is an ancient Celtic language which defines its ancient people. Displaced languages/Celtic bloodlines existed; it doesn't weaken Kernow's case to acknowledge that.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@EnglandPerson You propose to weaken Kernow's rights by citing a notion of diluted diversity, yet this approach is doomed before it starts. Kernow is recognized by the European Union as an ancient Celtic Kingdom; home to ancient Celtic people who spoke an ancient Celtic language; these people were historically recognized as separate from the people who eventually settled around them & to whom they took up arms against. As for your belief that Cornwall left Wales & became England - I'm at a loss!
celticcornish 1 year ago
@EnglandPerson The Cornish & the Welsh are Celtic cousins - they are not the same people from the same nation! Cornwall may have been known as 'West Wales', but this was not geographically literal! Remember: England assumed political control over all Celtic nations - to a greater or lesser degree; this fact does not presuppose that any Celtic nation 'signed-up' to be part of England or that England had the right to assimilate it. Kernow's legal rights are far more extensive than you appreciate.
celticcornish 1 year ago
@EnglandPerson You have not read history if you believe that the Cornish language was not distinct and specifically definitive of Cornish people. It will interest you to know that in 1549 the Cornish rose-up against the English as part of the Prayer Book Rebellion, which was the result of the English attempting to force the Cornish to translate the 'filthy' language of their prayer books into English. Seriously..... you need to read a substantial amount more of history before you sound-off here!
celticcornish 1 year ago
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jed371 1 year ago
@jed371 It has nothing to do with size and ev