Preparedness 101 - Water storage

[brianmo180]

In a survival situation you do NOT want to poop or pee in fresh drinking water just so you can flush your toilet. Even with rainwater or washwater, if the shit really hits the fan to where the water shuts off, chances are the sewage treatment plant won't be operating, so you'll either have sewage backing up or flowing untreated into waterways. The solution to this? Compost it. Thats right. Type "humanure" into the search box and watch the videos by jcjenkins.

[kmikesell]

@brianmo180 Most of the water treatment plants in this area are geared to be able to run for several days if not weeks, on back up power. (I have a good friend who works for the county plant) The biggest problem would be sewer main breaks, and you would be right. That's why you should watch my video on sanitation! BTW in an urban environment, composting of human waste is illegal!

[brianmo180]

@kmikesell I’m not aware of any place that explicitly outlaws the composting of human waste, though I wouldn’t be surprised if some places had restrictions on it. In my experience any county official that has actually studied how to compost human waste soon realizes it to be a very viable solution. The people that would restrict it tend to be the less informed. Joe Jenkins “The Humanure Handbook” does a great job explaining the process, as does his video series here on Youtube.

[brianmo180]

@kmikesell Here’s the link to those videos:

/user/jcjenkins01#grid/user/FD­5D0CE103FD3A56

[brianmo180]

@kmikesell I watched the four sanitation videos of yours and they were good, though I still think composting is by and far the best way to go. At one point in the fourth video you mentioned composting of organic residues such as food scraps, and even mentioned how these compost piles can get hot and kill pathogens.

[brianmo180]

@kmikesell In a compost pile that receives human waste (very high nitrogen materials) mixed with sawdust (a very high carbon material), the pile is practically guaranteed to get hot enough to kill pathogens. I stuck a compost thermometer into my humanure compost pile today and it read 135 degrees, and that was ten days after I last added anything to it. A day or two after adding fresh material, the temperature usually reads 140-150 degrees. Hot enough to kill all human pathogens in minutes.

[brianmo180]

@kmikesell I’ve been doing this for 2 years now and I’ve never gotten sick because of it. Flies and odor are not a problem with the pile. Sawdust is an excellent material for odor control, and cover materials like straw and dead leaves I use to cover the pile with keep odors from escaping and flies from getting in. My neighbors don’t even know that I’m doing it, and I live in an average suburban neighborhood. It’s really a pretty benign process.

[kmikesell]

@brianmo180 After the Northridge earthquake I was tasked with "Red Tagging" houses that had no sanitation facilities. Trust me if anyone finds out what you are doing, you will be in a world of trouble. That being said, if I had a retreat place I would do it!

[cyanleopard]

Why did you not want to know if they had a well? Just to keep the class moving or is there laws in CA against having a well?

[kmikesell]

@cyanleopard In most metropolitan area's you can't get the water rights. A well is VERY rare.

[cyanleopard]

@kmikesell I would have never have thought about that, and it your reply compelled me to look up my local laws sense I live in the suburbs of Atlanta. Sure enough you can not drill a well with in the city limits of Atlanta, tho I think there is some special consideration if you already have a well and and you have to have a deeper one drilled. Thanks for the information your videos are always vary helpful.

[pvclassic]

This was a waste of time. This lecture has nothing to do with survival at all. Real survival wouldn't include a dishwasher or even a toilet. And you ramble too much...use real survival situations and get to the point. IMHO

[kmikesell]

@pvclassic This lecture was given before a group of suburbanites, who are mostly clueless....That is why it's entitled "preparedness 101". What in your opinion is a "real" survival situation?

[commercialmats]

Great info but I don't think that in a serious emergency situation that I would be concerned about showering.

[kmikesell]

@commercialmats After three or four days of having to work hard and sweat... You'll want a shower, trust me. At least you'd want (or need) a PTA bath.

[eyvind59]

@commercialmats

I'm sorry friend, but that is rather small minded. Disease is a major concern in a SHTF situation and basic personal hygiene is your first line of defense.

[TopTributeBands]

This is great information people should pay attention to.

The majority of people live near our ocean coasts & a small desalinator with just one 100 watt solar panel and a UV light can produce up to 40 gal of great tasting safe drinking water every day. That can take care of 40 people or even 120 people being rationed to 1 qt a day vs nothing but bad water that will kill you...

Google in quotes

"long term disaster preparedness and survival"

and be Amazed at what U find & do not find !

[pinatamarket]

who the hell showers when they are in survival mode!! lost a lot of credibility there bud

[kmikesell]

@pinatamarket So you don't think that people showered AT ALL during the days that followed Katrina? Or how about after the Earthquakes in Chili or Haiti? I happen to know that in each of these situations that people showered (although minimally) after the event. Even a PTA bath or Navy shower is required after a few days. If you want to go weeks with out a shower.....Make sure you stand downwind from me, Thanks

[TheBrotherMo]

@pinatamarket it all depends on your level of preparedness. Some people will ration water, some people will have enough to drink to satisfy their thirst and some people will have enough to shower.

This is basic water knowledge.

A family sailing for months will be able to show with fresh water with an unlimited supply of desalinated water. A family can live off the grid w/o public water and shower every day and water their hobby farm. Obviously it all depends on your level of preparedness.

[WDeet]

Do you know anywhere I can get dehydrated water, so that it is lighter and takes up less room? In dehydrated form I could carry a 500 gallon pack in my front pocket, and when I need some, "just add water"! What about freeze dried water, any websites that sell that!

[MIBstudios]

@WDeet

You are very close to the big secret ! REALLY !

About 80% of the world is water. It is everywhere, even in the air (& there are units that take it out & turn it into good drinking water).

Don't carry it but do learn how to desalinate &/or purify it thus creating an endless supply of good healthy drinking water.

I would give you the details but I do not want to spoil your fun of researching this on your own.

Tip: You already have everything you need lying around your house.

[TheBrotherMo]

@MIBstudios Condensation -like the water that drips from AC- takes too long for so little. If most of the planet is ocean, why not pump fresh water from the ocean with a desalinator?

Instead of waiting days for a quart, you can simply pump gallons in no time flat.

[MIBstudios]

@TheBrotherMo

Thalso what I am talking about as well as condensation if that is all you have due to a lack of preparedness. On our sailboat we had a 40 gal a day desalinator with a ultravilot light to kill all organic material and 2 solar panels to run it and our electrical system (as well as a wind / toe behind generator) sooo, if you want to do it right,,, we did

Google

"Long Term Disaster Preparedness and Survival"

in quotes and be amazed. Out of 5 items 3 are mine, 2 R ads LOL!

[TheBrotherMo]

@MIBstudios Nice... I'm a fan of it and surprised nobody's ever heard of it, since I was so extensively trained on it. Picked up a bunch from NX excess. The TDS is definitely amazing as it can pump fresh water from the ocean with less solute than tap. In the case of emergencies, you would think it would be the first thing people get in case of coastal flooding or emergencies, but I'm convinced only boat owners have heard of it.

[MIBstudios]

@TheBrotherMo

ONLY desalinated ocean water tastes like or better than our real spring water so I drink a gallon or more a day. It is sweet, clean and pure tasting. BUT you must read an dfollow the directions. They like to run often or you have to store them with biocide etc... In an emergency being able to make 30 to 40 gallons of good water a day is a life saver for a lot of people.

Google in quotees

"Long Term Disaster Preparedness and Survival"

and only 5 items show up, 2 ads & 3 R me

[TheBrotherMo]

@MIBstudios the UV unit is essential for automated RO systems that store water to deter growth without chemical additives. If you're simply using the Katadyn Survivor to manually pump fresh water into a jug, not needed at all -remember the TDS indicator.

Only reason the UV system is essential for boats is because the system is really a closed system powered only by solar panels, and no additional additives is involved -like the chlorine public water might add to maintain the water.

[MIBstudios]

@TheBrotherMo

The UV system kills all organic life even anthrx (that is why the post office scans mail with it) so I would not be without it. The TDS (total disolved solids) meter checks the quality of your water. But the survivor desalinator also operates with a hand pump if you do not have electricity or in an extreme emergency and can make 30 to 40 gallons a day. It uses just 3 amps an hr, just one100 watt solar panels puts out 6 amps an hr so 3 amps can go into the battery for night use.

[kmikesell]

@WDeet There used to be a company that sold dehydrated water in a can! Very light!

[62636263c]

@WDeet It is in the air around you all the time. All you need is a window a/c and 110 volts and take all the water out of the air that you need. Your welcome.

[MGC7807]

Heres a solar-powered machine that produces drinking water from air - H2OGenerator(dot)com

[edarotag84]

We didn't have water for 1 month after hurricane Rita and 3 weeks after hurricane ike, in Jefferson county Tx.

[kmikesell]

Wow! How did you get water?

[satansmusic2009]

@edarotag84 i remember the water thing after ike

[kmikesell]

Your the first! whatayatalkinabout! forgetaboutit

[purplelirpa]

has anyone told you that you in thumbnail size looks like tony soprano?

[illuminated1z]

Look up MMS its water purification and much more. also Berkey makes a lot of purification items even a sports bottle to filter all water

[kmikesell]

Well that's your opinion, exactly how is it as waste of time? What would you have me tell people? I made "Top 12 things you need to know".

[kmikesell]

Just go buy a REAL filter from my website!

[GaySurvivalMale]

I heard you can filter the water by adding charcoal to a penis pump.

[UsernameofBoang]

LOL I wouldn't wanna drink from that thing.

[stonerj0e]

youre a funny guy !

[cdltpx]

I have space to store water in 2liter bottles it is a habit to clean out the jug with soap and water rense then refill with h2o add a shot of bleach store them in the 8pack holders from the store write the date on the top use the older ones for sanitary use and the newer ones for drinking in emergency. I also freeze plenty of them and take one a day to work as I drink the water from it I have a block of ice I pour coke in and pour into a lidded cup and walla cold soda and water later.

[cdltpx]

Hurricane Gustov evacuated to AR motel we were comfy those that stayed home were misreable. Back home lost power over a week we evacuated when we returned all the food in the freezer was still edible because I stored many 2 ltrs of h2o in there rather than waste space space,we had food that still had ice in it many of the bottles of water were still frozen. Cooked some of that food gave a lot away.We never used the stored water in the shed b/c we evacuated.H2o store all you can you never know!

[kmikesell]

OK, That's why you should have a least 1 gallon per person per day.....What did I miss?

[Twi7ch13]

If you've ever camped out and I mean really camp in a tent with nothing in the way of creature comforts you realize you can make it on like 2 gallons a day per person. You can skip a damn shower in an emergency situation. Just be conservative, its an emergency, you're not suppose to be living like its a regular day, you use less.

[kmikesell]

You are absolutely right! I sell these barrels new on my website, as well as, getting used one. I personally have 6 which give me and my family over 300 gallons of water. Every one should store as much water as they can

[robinkoeman]

I suggest (if you have storage space available) buy yourself one or two pvc/plastic rainbarrels - there's room in it for hundreds of gallons of water. In fact, I've got one ready in the shed which is in my backyard - full of tapwater - it's sealed, so that bugs cant enter the container.

[kmikesell]

If you watch the other video's I mention this kind of storage.

[Christopher711]

no way. I am gonan store a gallong of deinking water a day for one week.

[robinkoeman]

Why not store it all at once? Why store just a gallon a day a week?

I'd store way more than that in just half an hour.

[Christopher711]

What I am trying to say is that a gallon of water a day for a week isn't enough for me in an emergency. I would store more than 7 gallons.

[robinkoeman]

Sorry for the misunderstanding Christopher.

[Christopher711]

no problem.

[ontheseventhday]

You can reduce the water usage by saving the rinse from dishes or laundry to flush the toilet.

Good vid, thanks....

[82pathfinder]

Great stuff keep it up!!!

[KARStarla]

I cant find that 1 micron microfilter anywhere do you know where I can find it?

[nomadak47]

gander mountain---or type in katadyne water filters

[KARStarla]

Oh thank you! I been looking but nothing looks like the one in the video, like I'm sorta confused as to if I understood something wrong.

[kmikesell]

This was great! Keep 'em coming!