Danny Havoc interview about life-threatening Injuries in pro wrestling.

[dele3344]

That cut in Havoc's arm at TOD 8 was fucking brutal. His pain tolerance is on another level with the rest of those guys.

[bettydaw1970]

i was at a backyard event 9 years ago, just a spectaor when a guy hit another guy with a light tube about 50 feet away across the chest as if he was swinging the tube like a baseball bat... 1 of the pieces hit me in the side of my knee, and that cut would not stop bleeding!!!! what if that lil piece hit me in the eye? bye bye eyeball..

btw nice shirt for this guy!!!!!

[Crossoverboy333]

henrymarriottczw15 a hit with a tube isn't hard at all. It's a difference sometimes iyou won't feel the tube and in some cases it will hurt like hell ^^

[MAJS444]

Barbed wire is not that bad. Snags from getting dropped on tight barbed wire ropes (like Havoc at TOD 7) are the most dangerous.

Barbed wire boards are not that painful.

Glass is dangerous. I did broken glass yardtarding around 9 years ago.

Danny Havoc is a really good wrestler who does not have to self-mutilate to find work in Indy wrestling.

Makes more sense to work on being a really good wrestler. Gotta be tough to wrestle stiff. Deathmatch implements too often cover for poor wrestling.

[dietfreeman42718]

But I think Danny said himself before that he only wants to do Deathmatch style wrestling. He does Non-Deathmatch but, he like Deathmatches more.

I maybe wrong but I thought he said that.

[MAJS444]

He may prefer deathmatches.

Or, perhaps that is the only thing bookers book him for. I don't know.

But I don't get it; you can make more money and wrestle more often wrestling straight.

Deathmatch wrestling is not as popular as it was 20 years ago, when FMW could draw 2000 people to a show. The IWA promos do shows only a few times a year, and still only draw 50 people.

CZW draws okay, but not as good as it did a few years ago.

[dietfreeman42718]

No his been booked in diff. matches before.

I know Deathmatches are not as big now but, for some people I guess it's more of the love of wrestling then the money. I know for myself when I did wrestling I did'nt get payed, but I was not doing the Deathmatch stuff as well. I done it because I loved it, because the only time I ever got payed it was 5 dollers. It's a love thing.

[MAJS444]

I knew he had been booked in some straight matches. By and large, he is booked in deathmatches.

I was really close to becoming a pro wrestler around 10 years ago. I did a fair share of backyard wrestling and wanted to be a wrestler.

I tried out at a local wrestling school, but I chose university instead.

I loved wrestling too, but I decided that love doesn't pay the bills.

[henrymarriottczw15]

Sorry to get involved in your discussion but according to Drake Younger during his smartmarkvideo DVD interview, he said that you get payed more for doing death matches and if your good at death match wrestling, then its easier to get booked too.

This is not from my mouth, but its from Drake's, and he IS a pro deathmatch wrestler so he knows what he is talking about.......

[MAJS444]

I guess some guys would get paid more to do deathmatches. Drake is about as reliable a source as you'll find on the subject.

That said, I do not think that top notch straight wrestlers like Tyler Black and Bryan Danielson make less money than Necro Butcher, and Necro makes more money than any other deathmatch wrestler I can think of.

Being a good draw is more important than doing DMs insofar as getting booked. However, doing DMs can sometimes help you become a draw. Plus, DMs sell DVDs.

[henrymarriottczw15]

As it goes, Necro proberly gets paid more than many other legit and great wrestlers mostly because many indy promotions want necro to wrestle for them because he is a huge draw (proberly because he played a role in the film 'The Wrestler') -

But i dout he gets paid the same amount as Bryan Danielson as he gets booked alot in Pro Wrestling NOAH, and that is proberly the biggest japanese wrestling promotion so he gets alot.

But the average DM guy proberly gets more then a 'normal' wrestler.

[MAJS444]

It all depends how over the guy is.

Necro is way over. I think his matches with Samoa Joe did a lot for him, they were fucking awesome..

I was blown away with how many people were at that XPWs Cold Day in Hell, looked like 1500 people, but they had Sean Waltman booked.

Waltman is going to outdraw ANY deathmatch wrestler.

I like DMs, but I do not think they help a guy get over as much as some would think.

They make a guy take on a particular style which is going to put off some people.

[henrymarriottczw15]

I agree on everything you've said today apart from your comment about deathmatches don't help the wrestlers get over as much as people may think. I disagree because if not for KOTDM 2006, Drake wouldn't be the star that he is now, if not for the infamous SAW deathmatch, Thumbtack Jack wouldn't he huge in Europe and the US like he is now. Same with DM guys like Necro Butcher, JC Bailey, Danny Havoc, SeXXY Eddy (after TOD 3, he became a huge DM draw), Brain Damage, Toby Klein and loads more!

[MAJS444]

I think that Necro's matches with Samoa Joe did more to get him over than deathmatches. That and the ROH-CZW feud. You can hardly call the great ROH Cage of Death match a true deathmatch.

All those guys you named are only over in deathmatch crowds. Some of them are completely unknown outside of deathmatch crowds. I don't disagree that good deathmatches helped them get over to those crowds, but they would not help them get over in, say, ROH, where stiff technical wrestling is what the fans want

[XforeverlongingX]

how do you guys get the courage to throw yourselves on barbed wire and smash glass on your body? seriously because i'd love to be that tough

[greatgames148]

i want to know too doing that shit to your body i dont think i would enjoy it

[veganheaded95]

i really wanna be in CZW when i'm older so i cant wait to do deathmatches, i have a weird need to do that stuff.

[XforeverlongingX]

that stuff creeps me the hell out, but it is sickly fun to watch lol i could NEVER do it though!

[veganheaded95]

well, my friend, we are two very different ppl haha, i cannot wait until i'm 18 and i can do this in a real ring instead of my backyard.

[down4life66420]

dude its alot more painful then you think iv been in none pro deathmatches and the shit you go threw really hurts

[veganheaded95]

i know man, i know the pain involved but i have a weird attraction to it, call me crazy but this is my dream and i defend that whenever i can

[down4life66420]

good luck man its really tought im telling you

[veganheaded95]

thanks dude, but you'll probably see me in TOD in a few years, you never know.

[ChildrenOfNodom]

Me too O.o and all my friends say: you'll change your opinion when you're older and i'm like: No.. I love it.. I'm in love with deathmatches and I want to PARTICIPATE

[veganheaded95]

i'm so into this that have like a wrestling name already (subject to change lol) and i like cut promos and me and my friends do BYW, i am just in love with deathmatches (it sounds kinda weird but idc)

[henrymarriottczw15]

Well good luck mate. I hope it works out for you but you better have a strong stomach and as for an example, if you get hit by a tube, it hurts like hell, but hitting someone else with one and inflicting pain on them can actully be hard to do.

I wanted to do this deathmatch wrestling a few years back but i couldn't find it within myself to hurt someone else who i know or a friend, I guess i'm just too nice lol !!!!!!

[jmaster779]

@ChildrenOfNodom not me my friend theyre are to violent but cool comment

[jmaster779]

@ChildrenOfNodom man you make a good point but i think like your friends