@MrDjdeadlock The guy in the white GI is Royce Gracie, You have to fight him now that you made an insult towards him, saying he's not a fighter. He has a Gracie Academy somewhere in the US, hunt him down and make a lot of money off his name by defeating him. Video tape it for everyone to see.
I'd also like to add that people don't fight in a uniform manner just because they practice the same style. Mike Tyson didn't fight like Muhammad Ali, but they both practiced boxing.
@ThePinkMan absolutly not, he dont even stand in any gung fu style, hes not calm. this is lies, its like 'no decent kung fu masters would fight us because they think its a total waiste of energy, so we gonna fight jerk and tell they are masters'
@WingChunHard No, you are wrong. He is a kung-fu expert.
On his website (His name is Jason DeLucia, by the way), his background is explained. You can also look up later fights of his from Pancrase, although at that point he had submission grappling training as well.
@ThePinkMan once again, hes not, 15 years it is young to claim mastering, even if delucia says it, hes just dreaming. Delucia suck, hes fighting style is everything else than chinese boxing. By the way gung-fu is not martial art, its the expression use to describe hardworking/hard training men in china. THAT VIDEO IS CRAP AND PROOF GRACIE LIKE TO BEAT DOWN SOME JERKS period
The Kung Fu (or Gung Fu if you have a Gracie accent) specialist is Jason DeLucia who was also in UFC 2 and had his arm broken by Royce in the quarter finals.
i think jiu jitsu in one of the most effective martial arts.. very effective self-defense.. iam yaw-yan practitioner but i also recommending jiu jitsu...
i think jiu jitsu in one of the most effective martial arts.. very effective self-defense.. iam yaw-yan practitioner but i also recommending jiu jitsu...
i think jiu jitsu in one of the most effective martial arts.. very effective self-defense.. iam yaw-yan practitioner but i also recommending jiu jitsu...
@wisemant11 BJJ is the art I would learn if I could only do one. However, in terms of mma Freestyle wrestling has been regarded as the most important martial art to learn because it allows you to control where the fight takes place.
@wisemant11 yeah in today's day and age you have to train in one or two martial arts to be competitive in mma. And every fighter trains in submission grappling or at least how to counter it. If you had to choose one though then yes BJJ would be the best. That's what UFC 1 was all about.
@wisemant11 In terms of grappling, no. If you train in Muay Thai striking, BJJ grappling, wrestling and some light Boxing and Kickboxing you are going to be a force to be reckoned with.
My 80 year old grand master in the Northern Mantis system wouldn't even budge at a double leg take down. Not not trying to toot my own horn, but he would have submitted Gracie as soon as the attempt was made. Kicking or punching someone isn't the best way to avoid a double leg takedown. An underhook on the wide shoulder opposite the tucked head while side stepping and applying downward pressure is. With your free hand, grab the hand of the underhooked shoulder and pull it toward their head.
@nahuelfantino Noone on Youtube knows whether or not I have the ability to hold my own in a fight, I am merely providing insight to another way of reacting. I don't train in MMA, but I have friends who've trained in Gracie BJJ in Tampa for years, and not one of them has been able to take me down. Its really the practicioner, not the art itself. And the old one is tough; been training since he was 4 in China. Anyone with the title "grand master" is someone you don't fight. Period.
@CarsGunsBooze no, you don't fight them because they fear the embarrasment of losing like a fag. that's why they dont fight other then their own students.
@nahuelfantino So you would challenge him to a fight? He would hand you your ass on a silver platter and make you clean up the mess. Royce Gracie or not, someone who's studied a proven lethal martial art for all his life will not go down easy. And they don't fight other than (learn proper grammar) their own students because the art isn't competitive. Any Muay Thai fighter would die initiating combat with a lifelong monk outside the octagon. Leg and head kicks won't work.
@CarsGunsBooze I finally understand. You are a Kung Fu practitioner who just took a look at youtube and saw alot of videos showing BJJ beating Kung Fu and now feel insecure. Relax man, people just do this to promote Jiu-Jitsu and make money. It really is a wonderful martial art but so is Kung Fu. Ironic how u don't want people to disrespect Kung Fu, yet you disrespect muay thai and BJJ. It's not just them. you need to show respect too & open ur mind. You're not doing that in your comments.
@olamprov Forgive me, perhaps I should give BJJ the proper credit seeing how i've trained in it for three years and it does have some effectiveness. I've seen the pros and cons of both Kung Fu and BJJ and most of the Kung Fu fighters getting beat on Youtube are just junkies who watch too many movies. You're right about one thing though...its the practicioner, not the art. I'm starting to like you more.
@CarsGunsBooze You said you are in college and that you trained "BJJ among other arts" since age 4.... now it's 3 years????... dude can you just stop lying? And if you truly trained BJJ, you wouldn't say it had "some effectiveness" you would say it is extremely effective. You're really funny "Oh if you're in Florida I'd have a match with you" rofl. No one would waste their time to meet you, you're not a significant enough person. You want a match, you come to our dojo.
@CarsGunsBooze To you, and everyone who thinks that all the "[x] beats kung fu" videos are bull, I'd recommend reading up on Dan Hardy. He walked into an MMA gym as a high-level kung-fu expert, having practised in China, and got floored by MMA novices. It's a beautiful martial art, but it just wasn't built to handle the the more comprehensive styles of fighting, and it has too much tradition behind it to really evolve.
@wjhull Very true, it does have alot of tradition behind it, and forms won't really help too much other than conditioning. As far as Dan Hardy goes, maybe you need to read up. Had a 22-6 record in the UFC and he only trained for a few months in China...not really going to help much. Either way, he was not "floored" by anyone other than GSP and still managed to frustrate St. Pierre. You can't really call someone a "high-level-expert" if they've only devoted a few months to an art.
@CarsGunsBooze He's had a great record, and he's an amazing fighter, but he's said in interviews that when he came to MMA, he essentially had to start over because none of the Kung Fu that he learned was as efficient as the MMA techniques. He credits his Kung Fu experience with being the source of his drive and confidence, but had to ditch it as a fighting style to compete.
@CarsGunsBooze George Saint Pierre is known for not finishing fighters, he is a boring fighter who literally just lays on top of you for five rounds to get a decision. He is generally disliked in the MMA world for being a boring dry humper decision king. And Hardy has been doing MMA for a long time, I am sure he knew how to defend himself in the ground and Kung Fu had nothing to do with it. Besides Hardy is on a six fight losing streak I believe.
@myloveforMMA He hasn't fought in the UFC yet but he is in Bellator. YouTube him: "Ben Askren Highlight" and yes, he is a wrestler. He's a "funk-style" wrestler.
@JHDIII1987 He seems dedicated, but it looks like he isn't a finisher which is most wrestlers problem. The problem with wrestlers who use wrestling is... that wrestling is NOT a Martial Art for finishing. It teaches you to pin... but how do you finish someone by pinning him down, it's not enough. All other Martial Arts teach to finish your opponent, so it's no surprise when the wrestlers punches dont do much, and his submission attempts fail or are non existent.
Although Kung-Fu has many takedowns' many practitoners shy away from groundfighting. Someone say the caliber of a Eagle Claw Master could have damaged Gracies vital points.Sometimes groundfighting is best, othertimes like in a allout malay it might get ya hurt.Gracie style uses "sticking, and listening" just like many other fighting styles. Practicing some grappeling wont hurt, now adays your average mma fan knows more varity in moves than the early ufc fighters; anyways food for thought.
Training shit for 15 years doesn't mean he represents all kung fu. And Gracie is useless against a competent striker who doesn't play the come to the floor game. Watch the Sakurbara fight. There are so many openings when he attempts a grapple, the only thing it proves is how shit his opponents are, not how good Gracie is.
@monkeyographer well to agrue this was a time when gjj was not well known and to promote the art the gracies had to prove gjj against other martial arts. also if u watch full contact jj strikes are included. infact they teach strikes at my school in slidell primarely to set up techniques or to move to another position. to say gracies are shit is a bad comment just because they may loose in an mma fight has no meaning because without them there wouldnt be mma
@destincox If Gracies never pineered MMA as a competitive sport, there wouldn't be MMA? I'd say that would have been a good thing. Worse thing to happen to martial arts and youtube. All people go on about is MMA sport and BJJ always wins in it. Whole thing is just a fad worshiped by leftover fans of WWE who badmouth all other martial art styles thinking it must be the style's fault and not the practicioner. Ironic when its supposed to be mixed arts, not styles against styles.
@monkeyographer well to those fad leftover wwe fans i feel sorry for them then if they dont respect martial arts. i have trained in boxing tkd and bjj and i have great respect for all arts. and if u watch the video yes it is style vs style but this was be4 mma started, and this vid is an ex. y it begn. but who says u have to do all arts they still have traditional tournaments all over the world. i havent yet been in a jiujitsu tournament but have in tkd. myself i respect both mma/traditional.
@monkeyographer also yes in an mma fight it shouldnt be about styles but i the early stages most mma fighters started in bjj,karate,wrestling etc. now the new gen fighters like carlos condit and others got there start learning a combination of arts at an "mma" gym where bjj,striking,wrestling, are combined in teachings. my point is im not some fanboy i truely respect the teaching and lifstyle of traditional arts as well as the respect of the people who take advantage of mixing them.
EVERY fighter now adays uses EVERY style...striking, ground game, submissions..if you think its "style vs style" your an idiot, no MMA fighter can win without using ALL styles.
@monkeyographer also yes there were openings but that is part of the point the kung fu expert didnt have knowledge on how to take advantage of possible openings and or how to defend or take advantage of them. thats y now most fighters either use jj to apply as offense or use it to keep the fight in the stand up and to defend against submissions and position changes to benefit there style
@monkeyographer - I agree with you on many of your points. Unfortunately, kung fu gets a bad name because many people do lump all kung fu styles together. In truth, a lot of kung fu IS shit...especially in groundfighting. Smart kung fu men combine their striking with a solid grappling art to round out their game. For good kung fu..check out Hung Gar, Pak Mei, Xingyi and SPM which are all good striking styles when taught properly.
@Boxingbear Yes 'kung fu' is nowadays lumped together into some 'crouching tiger hidden dragon' mythological bullshit. Whereas, when referring to chinese martial arts (where all techniques from JJ, muai thai etc. originates from) The only reason they are considered innaffective now is because lack of proper teaching. Chinese communism drived it out mostly. It's the training method of most 'kungfu' that lacks thesedays. Yet some rare sources do teach good kung fu that includes groundfighting.
Of course anti grappling attempt are going to fail if you dont hit hard enough. There was such a big gap that the elbow to Gracies back should have broke his spine! Fighters always lose against grappling like this because they dont know what to do properly. Dont mess around, just smash his neck and vertibrae.
@nahuelfantino there are numerous examples to the contrary.
While nobody is saying there's a silver bullet, there's certainly a good chance for a well trained person to win against two less trained people. Yes, you need to be in much better shape that the opponents, no surprise here I guess.
In a 1 on 1 fight, there is 95% chance that the fight will go to the ground. In a 2 on 1 fight, the chance has to be much higher that you will go to the ground.
this is typical nonsense, on several levels. someone stating "i'm a kickfoo expert" means nothing. he was clearly in great shape, and athletic. He is fighting a top-tier JJ expert. This would be like saying "the ravens are the best football team...watch as ray lewis tackles this high school football star....". Absurd.
Again this kung fu guy isnt the best kung fu guy in the world and being unbeaten in 15 years means nothing if he only ever fought 5 times. Royce is the best grappler so at least it should be like for like.
But i like this performance from Royce he could have done the guy faster
@iluvcliffrichard Royce isnt the best grappler. He actually isn't that great compared to other gracies or BJJ guys. He just beats guys that dont know bjj or grappling
the bottom line is the fight went to the floor and thats why Royce won. Royce wouldnt always be able to get the fight to the floor without being knocked out trying to do it. This time he managed it that why he won.
Also Royce is the best grappler and that kung fu guy isnt the best kung fu guy. Being unbeaten 15 years dont mean you are the best. Id expect Royce to beat many great kung fu guys if he takes them to the floor, but it wont always happen. It did this time, so thanxs for vid.
@rivalpaws21 hahah, you are cute sir, i' ve seen aikido guys doing the same to every other martial arts guys, but that doesnt mean anything .and for your comments, you clearly dont practice any or you are a newbie. FTW , jiu jitsu, judo, aikido,they all came from kung fu , which is the mother of all martial arts with exception of the kalary.
so the technicques are known to a a real practicioner.
@rivalpaws21 and of course, you can be practicing 100 years an art, doesnt mean you are good. if you knew something about martial arts, you would know that going for a take down with your open arms, showing your head is not a wise thing to do. thats why you dont see much guys going for a TD like that in mma, and why you see lest bjj every day and more wrestling
PD. nice trolling, just like royce and his family when talking about others. that's some martial arts values you've got
@rivalpaws21 man,if thats jason delucia, then not only you are wrong, but so its rorion when he said this guy is undefeated. i've seen him get to the matt many times. Bass also almost killed him. thing is, every kung fu, /tkd , kdo practicioner knows about the stance you have to have when fighting a grapling m.artist, this guy doesnt have it. he was going to be taken down no matter what. his hips where to high, the kick was in the middel and weak , im sorry this is not kung fu
Bruce studied grappling more than that kung fu guy thats for sure. Bruce had grappling students like hartsell and Glover etc. Have u ever heard anecdotes of people taking bruce lee down and pinning him down, no? Only anecdotes of the amazing things he did to people.
Royce knows strking and grappling and that kung fu guy in the vid knows zilch so is unfair. Royce knows how to defend kicks by the looks of it so its nots strictly grappling vs striking.
But i noticed Royce still had to work pretty hard when you have a fit opponent. Even though that Kung fu guy probably knows absolutley nothing on the floor he still made Royce work pretty hard, just by being a mad man trying to escape.
@iluvcliffrichard Excellent comment. I wonder how would a guy like say: Triple H, do against bjj. It is also amazing how these "strikers" never get to land a single strike. I believe they are not experts in their art, yet they fight against experts in bjj. How cool would it be to see Manny Pacquiao versus bjj? No gloves by the way. LOL That´s another story...
Yes Pac i think is miles better than that gung fu guy and Royce would most likely get caught if he went head first in like that, so i think Royce would be more wary thats for sure.
Royce couldnt go in like that against Bruce lee, as Bruce lees grappling and understanding was at quite an advanced level, so even if Royce did get bruce to the floor, bruce certainly wouldnt have been out of water like that kung fu guy.
@iluvcliffrichard Exactly, man. I personally am like that... striking is the most practical thing... but, even if I ever get down... not many people know I secretly know some decent ne-waza. XD Secret to striking: practitioners think the other guy will respect their style... they don´t impose their style... Just saying...
But i like this vid cos Royce knows when to call it a day and isnt barbaric. Good on you royce and a good performance. Just by watching this makes me want to learn a bit about BJJ
You can really aprecite Royces skill here in a way i never in UFC. But the kung fu guy knows absolutely nothing about fighting a floor fighter, and i doubt hes ever fought one. Just shows you need to know a little about grappling, if only to know how to defend it.
Dont know how good the kung fu guy is though, but we know Royce is top drawer grappler.
Doesnt show grappling is superior though, so the vid fails if its trying to make that point.
@theWHIZKIDjOSh that's not even close to be kung fu. neither the stance, nor the techniques. Look at the flacid short of middle kick te guy pulled . Even the timing is wrong
That's some beautiful leg parries by Royce during the first 25 seconds or so! He looks almost like a Kung fu master himself, until he goes into the takedown. Seems maybe the Gracies are NOT so one-dimensional after all..
I find Bjj has a lot of weak points, a lot of exposed parts of the body to break/strike, especially the head. However this "Kung fu " fighter is not a kung fu fighter. It's just some bullshit.
just strike to throat eyes groin and knee fast and slyly with control believe me i dont want to go fighting on concrete rocks etc or other obsticles which would damage the attacker or defender plus if you get attacked these days these bullies are in twos last place you want to be is on a concrete path doing ground workand his mate stepping on your head jujitsu was a battle field art with which you was both covered in bamboo armours going to ground wasnt a big problem you was protected
BJJ is a useful skill to know, but I would by no means go about boasting of it's superiority to other martial arts. That's just pompous, ignorant, and unrealistic.
In the ring this BJJ stuff is hard to match, which is too bad because it is boring as hell to watch, bordering a gay experience. In the street however, Smith & Wesson made all men equal.
Yes Brazilian jujitsu is good for the ring, or a 1-1 fight on a padded floor, I have studied them all, I have used my skills on the street many times, partly my work and being at the wrong place at the wrong time, I have executed one kung fu move successfully, I am not a fan of kung fu, too much slappy....martial arts should also never be looked upon as a religion, I have never gone to the ground on the street either,if it lasts more than a few seconds you messed up somewhere.
Great tool for martial, arts, not the best form of martial arts though. Every martial arts have their worth, even kung fu, which is unfortunately ill represented here. I don't see how this guy is a kung fu master. No foot work, no arm work, no leg stances or structure. Looks more like some karate tagging tournament fighter...
@PumaDown those scenarios are fear based fantasies. Don't hang out in alleys in Detroit, don't go to jail, and don't pretend to know more about fighting than BJJ or MMA fighters
Anyone know what year this is? I'd be suprised if anyone would take the Gracie challenge against Royce after he won any UFC's, so I'm guessing it's before 93?
@Moses79 kung fu is useless. the only fighting styles that have been proven effective is boxing,kickboxing/muay thia, jiu jistu, and wrestling. you will never see a kung fu guy ko a pro boxer or kickboxer, or submit a bjj and wrestling guy.you get what im saying..
@Moses79 Most definitely. On the ground, where most fights wind up, kung fu is virtually useless. And why do you still believe otherwise, even though this video clearly demonstrates this fact??? And why are there NO successful kung fu fighters in all of MMA? Why? Why? Why? I'll answer that: it's because it does not work, period. It would only have any effectiveness against one who was foolish enough to stand there as a stationary target, and allow themselves to take blows/strikes.
hey buddy l had street fight last week. guy threw left hook at me. shot in for double leg. big slam. gained side control. the guy was grabing my balls.and also tryed pokeing me in eye.while also trying to bite my ear. and it wasnt untill 2 big fucking knees to his head. he rolled over l took his back, and put choke on.guess what he was out in seconds. what you gonna do grap my balls till l die.if you think that shit works you aint had a fight with a hard bastard.
@PumaDown Really, overrated??? I'd love 2 C u put ur 'money' where ur mouth is, & go fight a similarly sized opponent who has about the same years of experience in BJJ, as u do in kung fu, record it, post it to YouTube, like Rorion has done here. U won't, b/c u will b 2 embarrassed 2 show the world how u got ur ass kicked. I can name hundreds of successful fighters in MMA whose primary background is in BJJ. I challenge u to name just ONE whose primary background is in kung fu. Just ONE!
@3TNT3 Like I said,it's good to know to supplement whatever stand up game you have,rather it's kung fu,karate,muay thai or whatever because from what I have seen from my research you're going to get clutched in a real fight no matter what you're stand up game is and bjj is good to have in your arsenal for that reason.However,I said it was over rated because some people think that a bjj practictioner can't get his ass kicked just because he/she knows bjj and I beg to differ!
@PumaDown Yes, well those "(some) people (who) think that a bjj pract. can't get his ass kicked just b/c he/she knows bjj" r just silly. Of course a bjj pract. can get their ass kicked. But, all things Bing = (speed, strength, skill, intelligence, etc.), a bjj pract. is going 2 win 90+% of the time. Obviously, the chances differ whenever all things r not relatively = (i.e. a NCAA Division I Championship wrestler at 205 lbs is going 2 most likely CRUSH a 170 lb novice bjj pract.).
@tfiraz you dont know anything about martial arts , this kung fu "expert" is being hold back since he is fighting under rules , since kung fu was created to kill your opponent and not to simply knock him out
@OmGhostable Exactly. Bruce Lee has even labeled a kung fu style as being the most effective for fighting more than more one person, and even stated one-time the kung fu fighters traveled to Thailand and actually won matches against the muay thai boxers. Considering they were fighting in the ring and that's not their nature, yet they still won some matches show how effective kung fu can be. Especially when a MMA teacher like Bruce Lee says it.
@tfiraz There are limitations to Kung Fu and there are limitations to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Being a Multi-Dimensional fighter who learns realistic and effective techniques is far more important than what Martial Art you train in.
In real life situation if someone holds on to you on the ground, remmember theres no rules, you have to bite, scratch, break his fingers, spit in his eyes, do anything to survive.
@bubbletea8888 Exactly! I love Kung Fu and MMA but what a lot of these pro MMA guys don't realize is that if a guy gets me in a clutch and take me down...I'm gonna bite and grab balls....and guess what...it works! :)
@PumaDown Yeah, figures you would, you little girl. Only a PUSSY 'has' to resort to biting and grabbing balls. I'll bet you just looooove grabbing balls...and you probably love getting a handful of cock, too.....
@3TNT3 When you're in a real fight...when three or four guys rush you in down town Detroit and drag you in a alley to rob you or you get rushed in a prison shower...you do what you gotta do to survive.Those are situations where I could give less than a fuck about fighting "Honorable."Unlike you...I haven't had the good fortune of being able to practice my knowledge in backyard situations or in suburban school yard fights.Why do you mma/bjj practictioner always feel the need to put everybody down
@PumaDown Well yes, of course you do whatever you gotta do to survive when it is LIFE or DEATH. But you never indicated that you were talking about such situations. You made it sound like it was just an everyday fight you were referring to.
I know Abel from Street Fighter 4 is a fictional video game character but Just imagine how will Royce Gracie do against him if they were in a Grappling match.
@notdrockok if your training a MA to kill someone, your not only a psychopath but your probably being misled. No one outside Navy SEALS need to know how to kill anyone, if you live in America you can easily go to jail for murdering even in self defense. Be real.
0:45 sorry gracie, but if this were a life or death fight, he'd have snapped your neck like a twig. All you've proven is that BJJ was effective for this fight under these conditions.
The hold Jason was trying to apply is called a guillotine choke. It's a standard technique in jiu-jitsu, and is designed to strangle rather than put torque on the spine. The only problem is Jason was in a poor position to finish the hold, and Royce was much more experienced than him anyway.
The same thing happens in this STREET fight between a BJJer and kung-fu teacher:
@ThePinkMan lol should think about about what the person's said in more depth before launching into personal attacks. It takes next to nothing to pop a spine. What makes these matches so ludicrous is neither of them is trying to outright kill the other. The effectiveness of an art, to me, is not about macho submission and domination, but how quickly and effectively you can kill the other person before they kill you. If your art saves your life, job done. All arts are valid.
@notdrockok So basically, you're saying the only way one can test his martial prowess is by engaging in a fight to the death? If that's the case, then how many people have you killed? And how many spines have you popped, if it's so easy?
you have to train to do this, hope the guy does not hit you, if he comes at you go for his legs and if he backs up go for his legs and with no style or grace just smother him and hope to never let go, it's like wrestling when your a kid or fighting your older brother in the liveing room which im guessing gracie did alot of, saying its this style when all it is, do what ever to win and who cares if you look like a bitch, love it.
Great fight 1st time seeing it.. Royce is the man had the pleasure of meeting him :) Well fought by the other guy he did look very hard work but once again the fantastic knowledge of Bjj proved too much for the other guy ;)
Oh shit, is that Delucia?
desperado2992 16 hours ago
lookjs like two homos having a blowjob party thats no fight
MrDjdeadlock 1 day ago
@MrDjdeadlock The guy in the white GI is Royce Gracie, You have to fight him now that you made an insult towards him, saying he's not a fighter. He has a Gracie Academy somewhere in the US, hunt him down and make a lot of money off his name by defeating him. Video tape it for everyone to see.
JHDIII1987 1 day ago
He should have stopped Royce with his monkey fist or floating tiger kick!! lol
josh808m 3 days ago
@josh808m lol
JHDIII1987 1 day ago
I'd also like to add that people don't fight in a uniform manner just because they practice the same style. Mike Tyson didn't fight like Muhammad Ali, but they both practiced boxing.
ThePinkMan 4 days ago
Kung Fu expert? That's what she said....
mi3eky77 1 week ago
just because they say he is a gung fu expert isnt mean its true
WingChunHard 1 week ago
@WingChunHard He is.
ThePinkMan 4 days ago
@ThePinkMan absolutly not, he dont even stand in any gung fu style, hes not calm. this is lies, its like 'no decent kung fu masters would fight us because they think its a total waiste of energy, so we gonna fight jerk and tell they are masters'
WingChunHard 4 days ago
@WingChunHard No, you are wrong. He is a kung-fu expert.
On his website (His name is Jason DeLucia, by the way), his background is explained. You can also look up later fights of his from Pancrase, although at that point he had submission grappling training as well.
ThePinkMan 4 days ago
@ThePinkMan once again, hes not, 15 years it is young to claim mastering, even if delucia says it, hes just dreaming. Delucia suck, hes fighting style is everything else than chinese boxing. By the way gung-fu is not martial art, its the expression use to describe hardworking/hard training men in china. THAT VIDEO IS CRAP AND PROOF GRACIE LIKE TO BEAT DOWN SOME JERKS period
WingChunHard 4 days ago
@WingChunHard you call jerk a family who changed the mma world
maldade2000 4 days ago
@maldade2000 take your time when reading
WingChunHard 3 days ago
The Kung Fu (or Gung Fu if you have a Gracie accent) specialist is Jason DeLucia who was also in UFC 2 and had his arm broken by Royce in the quarter finals.
shakybones007 1 week ago
@shakybones007 He also got his liver broken by Bas Rutten in Pancrase 1996 =)
sliipknoot 1 week ago
@shakybones007 No. Wrong. Gung Fu is an alternative phonetic rendering of the word.
Gumbi1012 1 week ago
foi facinho pro Royce :)
mumiakickboxer 1 week ago
SOME KUNG FU GUY NEED TO BENCH A LITTLE MORE AT THE GYM !
SuperOwni 1 week ago
This Gung Fu Expert!!
Vazquez71 2 weeks ago
Grasshopper when you can snatch the pebble from my hand it will be time for you to leave.
knife7man 2 weeks ago
Looks like karate man more..
dlvt79 2 weeks ago
combat sambo is the way to go it has striking, throws, and submissions
eddiesabillon512 2 weeks ago
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gboxletter 2 weeks ago
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gboxletter 2 weeks ago
i think jiu jitsu in one of the most effective martial arts.. very effective self-defense.. iam yaw-yan practitioner but i also recommending jiu jitsu...
gboxletter 2 weeks ago
The guy in yellow shorts sniffed his balls for like 5 min and KOed.
djmocok 2 weeks ago
Kung Fu sucks :)
gromstoso 2 weeks ago
is there a better martial art than bjj in terms of mma? I dont think so,
wisemant11 3 weeks ago
@wisemant11 BJJ is the art I would learn if I could only do one. However, in terms of mma Freestyle wrestling has been regarded as the most important martial art to learn because it allows you to control where the fight takes place.
olamprov 3 weeks ago
@olamprov wrong.... Wrestling does....
bonerdust 2 weeks ago
@bonerdust I said wrestling allows you to control where the fight takes place... what did I say that was wrong?
olamprov 2 weeks ago
@wisemant11 yeah in today's day and age you have to train in one or two martial arts to be competitive in mma. And every fighter trains in submission grappling or at least how to counter it. If you had to choose one though then yes BJJ would be the best. That's what UFC 1 was all about.
Idrivethe405 3 weeks ago
@wisemant11 In terms of grappling, no. If you train in Muay Thai striking, BJJ grappling, wrestling and some light Boxing and Kickboxing you are going to be a force to be reckoned with.
spittingbloodhc 2 weeks ago
this is a fuckin classic
wisemant11 3 weeks ago
15 years of kung fu my ass!
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nahuelfantino 3 weeks ago
My 80 year old grand master in the Northern Mantis system wouldn't even budge at a double leg take down. Not not trying to toot my own horn, but he would have submitted Gracie as soon as the attempt was made. Kicking or punching someone isn't the best way to avoid a double leg takedown. An underhook on the wide shoulder opposite the tucked head while side stepping and applying downward pressure is. With your free hand, grab the hand of the underhooked shoulder and pull it toward their head.
CarsGunsBooze 3 weeks ago
@CarsGunsBooze ur a true master of keyboards... respect!
nahuelfantino 3 weeks ago
@nahuelfantino Noone on Youtube knows whether or not I have the ability to hold my own in a fight, I am merely providing insight to another way of reacting. I don't train in MMA, but I have friends who've trained in Gracie BJJ in Tampa for years, and not one of them has been able to take me down. Its really the practicioner, not the art itself. And the old one is tough; been training since he was 4 in China. Anyone with the title "grand master" is someone you don't fight. Period.
CarsGunsBooze 3 weeks ago
@CarsGunsBooze no, you don't fight them because they fear the embarrasment of losing like a fag. that's why they dont fight other then their own students.
nahuelfantino 3 weeks ago
@nahuelfantino So you would challenge him to a fight? He would hand you your ass on a silver platter and make you clean up the mess. Royce Gracie or not, someone who's studied a proven lethal martial art for all his life will not go down easy. And they don't fight other than (learn proper grammar) their own students because the art isn't competitive. Any Muay Thai fighter would die initiating combat with a lifelong monk outside the octagon. Leg and head kicks won't work.
CarsGunsBooze 3 weeks ago
@CarsGunsBooze I finally understand. You are a Kung Fu practitioner who just took a look at youtube and saw alot of videos showing BJJ beating Kung Fu and now feel insecure. Relax man, people just do this to promote Jiu-Jitsu and make money. It really is a wonderful martial art but so is Kung Fu. Ironic how u don't want people to disrespect Kung Fu, yet you disrespect muay thai and BJJ. It's not just them. you need to show respect too & open ur mind. You're not doing that in your comments.
olamprov 3 weeks ago
@olamprov Forgive me, perhaps I should give BJJ the proper credit seeing how i've trained in it for three years and it does have some effectiveness. I've seen the pros and cons of both Kung Fu and BJJ and most of the Kung Fu fighters getting beat on Youtube are just junkies who watch too many movies. You're right about one thing though...its the practicioner, not the art. I'm starting to like you more.
CarsGunsBooze 3 weeks ago
@CarsGunsBooze You said you are in college and that you trained "BJJ among other arts" since age 4.... now it's 3 years????... dude can you just stop lying? And if you truly trained BJJ, you wouldn't say it had "some effectiveness" you would say it is extremely effective. You're really funny "Oh if you're in Florida I'd have a match with you" rofl. No one would waste their time to meet you, you're not a significant enough person. You want a match, you come to our dojo.
olamprov 3 weeks ago
@CarsGunsBooze
LOL...Idiot! :)
SkemeKOS 3 weeks ago
@CarsGunsBooze To you, and everyone who thinks that all the "[x] beats kung fu" videos are bull, I'd recommend reading up on Dan Hardy. He walked into an MMA gym as a high-level kung-fu expert, having practised in China, and got floored by MMA novices. It's a beautiful martial art, but it just wasn't built to handle the the more comprehensive styles of fighting, and it has too much tradition behind it to really evolve.
wjhull 3 weeks ago
@wjhull Very true, it does have alot of tradition behind it, and forms won't really help too much other than conditioning. As far as Dan Hardy goes, maybe you need to read up. Had a 22-6 record in the UFC and he only trained for a few months in China...not really going to help much. Either way, he was not "floored" by anyone other than GSP and still managed to frustrate St. Pierre. You can't really call someone a "high-level-expert" if they've only devoted a few months to an art.
CarsGunsBooze 3 weeks ago
@CarsGunsBooze He's had a great record, and he's an amazing fighter, but he's said in interviews that when he came to MMA, he essentially had to start over because none of the Kung Fu that he learned was as efficient as the MMA techniques. He credits his Kung Fu experience with being the source of his drive and confidence, but had to ditch it as a fighting style to compete.
wjhull 3 weeks ago
@CarsGunsBooze George Saint Pierre is known for not finishing fighters, he is a boring fighter who literally just lays on top of you for five rounds to get a decision. He is generally disliked in the MMA world for being a boring dry humper decision king. And Hardy has been doing MMA for a long time, I am sure he knew how to defend himself in the ground and Kung Fu had nothing to do with it. Besides Hardy is on a six fight losing streak I believe.
myloveforMMA 2 days ago
@myloveforMMA Speaking of GSP, what do you think of Ben Askren?
JHDIII1987 1 day ago
@JHDIII1987 Has he fought in the UFC? Sounds familiar... well is he a wrestler?
myloveforMMA 1 day ago
@myloveforMMA He hasn't fought in the UFC yet but he is in Bellator. YouTube him: "Ben Askren Highlight" and yes, he is a wrestler. He's a "funk-style" wrestler.
JHDIII1987 4 hours ago
@JHDIII1987 He seems dedicated, but it looks like he isn't a finisher which is most wrestlers problem. The problem with wrestlers who use wrestling is... that wrestling is NOT a Martial Art for finishing. It teaches you to pin... but how do you finish someone by pinning him down, it's not enough. All other Martial Arts teach to finish your opponent, so it's no surprise when the wrestlers punches dont do much, and his submission attempts fail or are non existent.
myloveforMMA 3 hours ago
my wife and my mother have better fights
pquic 3 weeks ago
Although Kung-Fu has many takedowns' many practitoners shy away from groundfighting. Someone say the caliber of a Eagle Claw Master could have damaged Gracies vital points.Sometimes groundfighting is best, othertimes like in a allout malay it might get ya hurt.Gracie style uses "sticking, and listening" just like many other fighting styles. Practicing some grappeling wont hurt, now adays your average mma fan knows more varity in moves than the early ufc fighters; anyways food for thought.
kevinwoody49 3 weeks ago
Training shit for 15 years doesn't mean he represents all kung fu. And Gracie is useless against a competent striker who doesn't play the come to the floor game. Watch the Sakurbara fight. There are so many openings when he attempts a grapple, the only thing it proves is how shit his opponents are, not how good Gracie is.
monkeyographer 1 month ago
@monkeyographer well to agrue this was a time when gjj was not well known and to promote the art the gracies had to prove gjj against other martial arts. also if u watch full contact jj strikes are included. infact they teach strikes at my school in slidell primarely to set up techniques or to move to another position. to say gracies are shit is a bad comment just because they may loose in an mma fight has no meaning because without them there wouldnt be mma
destincox 1 month ago
@destincox If Gracies never pineered MMA as a competitive sport, there wouldn't be MMA? I'd say that would have been a good thing. Worse thing to happen to martial arts and youtube. All people go on about is MMA sport and BJJ always wins in it. Whole thing is just a fad worshiped by leftover fans of WWE who badmouth all other martial art styles thinking it must be the style's fault and not the practicioner. Ironic when its supposed to be mixed arts, not styles against styles.
monkeyographer 4 weeks ago
@monkeyographer well to those fad leftover wwe fans i feel sorry for them then if they dont respect martial arts. i have trained in boxing tkd and bjj and i have great respect for all arts. and if u watch the video yes it is style vs style but this was be4 mma started, and this vid is an ex. y it begn. but who says u have to do all arts they still have traditional tournaments all over the world. i havent yet been in a jiujitsu tournament but have in tkd. myself i respect both mma/traditional.
destincox 4 weeks ago
@monkeyographer also yes in an mma fight it shouldnt be about styles but i the early stages most mma fighters started in bjj,karate,wrestling etc. now the new gen fighters like carlos condit and others got there start learning a combination of arts at an "mma" gym where bjj,striking,wrestling, are combined in teachings. my point is im not some fanboy i truely respect the teaching and lifstyle of traditional arts as well as the respect of the people who take advantage of mixing them.
destincox 4 weeks ago
@monkeyographer
EVERY fighter now adays uses EVERY style...striking, ground game, submissions..if you think its "style vs style" your an idiot, no MMA fighter can win without using ALL styles.
Breakneckhydra1 3 weeks ago
@Breakneckhydra1 "you're"
monkeyographer 3 weeks ago
@monkeyographer also yes there were openings but that is part of the point the kung fu expert didnt have knowledge on how to take advantage of possible openings and or how to defend or take advantage of them. thats y now most fighters either use jj to apply as offense or use it to keep the fight in the stand up and to defend against submissions and position changes to benefit there style
destincox 1 month ago
@monkeyographer - I agree with you on many of your points. Unfortunately, kung fu gets a bad name because many people do lump all kung fu styles together. In truth, a lot of kung fu IS shit...especially in groundfighting. Smart kung fu men combine their striking with a solid grappling art to round out their game. For good kung fu..check out Hung Gar, Pak Mei, Xingyi and SPM which are all good striking styles when taught properly.
Boxingbear 3 weeks ago
@Boxingbear Yes 'kung fu' is nowadays lumped together into some 'crouching tiger hidden dragon' mythological bullshit. Whereas, when referring to chinese martial arts (where all techniques from JJ, muai thai etc. originates from) The only reason they are considered innaffective now is because lack of proper teaching. Chinese communism drived it out mostly. It's the training method of most 'kungfu' that lacks thesedays. Yet some rare sources do teach good kung fu that includes groundfighting.
monkeyographer 3 weeks ago
@monkeyographer
Well how come Royce beat Sakuraba and Ralek also beat Sakuraba? How come Royce beat that TOP boxer? Howcome Rorion beat a champion kickboxer?
SkemeKOS 3 weeks ago
Of course anti grappling attempt are going to fail if you dont hit hard enough. There was such a big gap that the elbow to Gracies back should have broke his spine! Fighters always lose against grappling like this because they dont know what to do properly. Dont mess around, just smash his neck and vertibrae.
monkeyographer 1 month ago
@ennot so is everything else
lsloewen2 1 month ago
disagree
ennot 3 weeks ago
grappling is absolutely great one on one. Useless against two.
ennot 1 month ago 2
@ennot lol that's obvious
2124161 3 weeks ago
@2124161 apparently not for everybody. See people arguing under this same post
ennot 3 weeks ago
@ennot so as other martial arts
nahuelfantino 3 weeks ago
@nahuelfantino there are numerous examples to the contrary.
While nobody is saying there's a silver bullet, there's certainly a good chance for a well trained person to win against two less trained people. Yes, you need to be in much better shape that the opponents, no surprise here I guess.
ennot 3 weeks ago
@ennot
In a 1 on 1 fight, there is 95% chance that the fight will go to the ground. In a 2 on 1 fight, the chance has to be much higher that you will go to the ground.
Grappling will help you no matter what.
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Truthiracy3 1 month ago
this is typical nonsense, on several levels. someone stating "i'm a kickfoo expert" means nothing. he was clearly in great shape, and athletic. He is fighting a top-tier JJ expert. This would be like saying "the ravens are the best football team...watch as ray lewis tackles this high school football star....". Absurd.
kenfo0 1 month ago
Again this kung fu guy isnt the best kung fu guy in the world and being unbeaten in 15 years means nothing if he only ever fought 5 times. Royce is the best grappler so at least it should be like for like.
But i like this performance from Royce he could have done the guy faster
iluvcliffrichard 1 month ago
@iluvcliffrichard Royce isnt the best grappler. He actually isn't that great compared to other gracies or BJJ guys. He just beats guys that dont know bjj or grappling
anthonyrivero415 1 month ago
the bottom line is the fight went to the floor and thats why Royce won. Royce wouldnt always be able to get the fight to the floor without being knocked out trying to do it. This time he managed it that why he won.
Also Royce is the best grappler and that kung fu guy isnt the best kung fu guy. Being unbeaten 15 years dont mean you are the best. Id expect Royce to beat many great kung fu guys if he takes them to the floor, but it wont always happen. It did this time, so thanxs for vid.
iluvcliffrichard 1 month ago
@rivalpaws21 and talking shit with pride about others will lead you nowhere, but to get your ass kicked
ygustavo 1 month ago
@rivalpaws21 hahah, you are cute sir, i' ve seen aikido guys doing the same to every other martial arts guys, but that doesnt mean anything .and for your comments, you clearly dont practice any or you are a newbie. FTW , jiu jitsu, judo, aikido,they all came from kung fu , which is the mother of all martial arts with exception of the kalary.
so the technicques are known to a a real practicioner.
ygustavo 1 month ago
@rivalpaws21 and of course, you can be practicing 100 years an art, doesnt mean you are good. if you knew something about martial arts, you would know that going for a take down with your open arms, showing your head is not a wise thing to do. thats why you dont see much guys going for a TD like that in mma, and why you see lest bjj every day and more wrestling
PD. nice trolling, just like royce and his family when talking about others. that's some martial arts values you've got
ygustavo 1 month ago
@rivalpaws21 man,if thats jason delucia, then not only you are wrong, but so its rorion when he said this guy is undefeated. i've seen him get to the matt many times. Bass also almost killed him. thing is, every kung fu, /tkd , kdo practicioner knows about the stance you have to have when fighting a grapling m.artist, this guy doesnt have it. he was going to be taken down no matter what. his hips where to high, the kick was in the middel and weak , im sorry this is not kung fu
ygustavo 1 month ago
@ygustavo This IS jason delucia in this video. But it was YEARS before he fought Bas.
When he fought Bas, Jason had already learned quite a bit of grappling(from the Gracies I think)
He also thought Royce again a few years after this in the 1st or 2nd UFC.
SkemeKOS 3 weeks ago
This fight is all but over at :26.
fightfan1971 1 month ago
@rivalpaws21
Bruce studied grappling more than that kung fu guy thats for sure. Bruce had grappling students like hartsell and Glover etc. Have u ever heard anecdotes of people taking bruce lee down and pinning him down, no? Only anecdotes of the amazing things he did to people.
Royce knows strking and grappling and that kung fu guy in the vid knows zilch so is unfair. Royce knows how to defend kicks by the looks of it so its nots strictly grappling vs striking.
iluvcliffrichard 1 month ago
But i noticed Royce still had to work pretty hard when you have a fit opponent. Even though that Kung fu guy probably knows absolutley nothing on the floor he still made Royce work pretty hard, just by being a mad man trying to escape.
iluvcliffrichard 1 month ago
@iluvcliffrichard Excellent comment. I wonder how would a guy like say: Triple H, do against bjj. It is also amazing how these "strikers" never get to land a single strike. I believe they are not experts in their art, yet they fight against experts in bjj. How cool would it be to see Manny Pacquiao versus bjj? No gloves by the way. LOL That´s another story...
DemonofAir 1 month ago
@DemonofAir
Yes Pac i think is miles better than that gung fu guy and Royce would most likely get caught if he went head first in like that, so i think Royce would be more wary thats for sure.
Royce couldnt go in like that against Bruce lee, as Bruce lees grappling and understanding was at quite an advanced level, so even if Royce did get bruce to the floor, bruce certainly wouldnt have been out of water like that kung fu guy.
iluvcliffrichard 1 month ago
@iluvcliffrichard Exactly, man. I personally am like that... striking is the most practical thing... but, even if I ever get down... not many people know I secretly know some decent ne-waza. XD Secret to striking: practitioners think the other guy will respect their style... they don´t impose their style... Just saying...
DemonofAir 1 month ago
But i like this vid cos Royce knows when to call it a day and isnt barbaric. Good on you royce and a good performance. Just by watching this makes me want to learn a bit about BJJ
iluvcliffrichard 1 month ago
You can really aprecite Royces skill here in a way i never in UFC. But the kung fu guy knows absolutely nothing about fighting a floor fighter, and i doubt hes ever fought one. Just shows you need to know a little about grappling, if only to know how to defend it.
Dont know how good the kung fu guy is though, but we know Royce is top drawer grappler.
Doesnt show grappling is superior though, so the vid fails if its trying to make that point.
iluvcliffrichard 1 month ago
bjj's useless with many opponents..
kismet1085 1 month ago
@kismet1085 thats why running was invented and with the regime of most BJJ players, they would be able to run away better also :)
tehf00n 1 month ago
that not kung fu that is gung fu.
flores50588 1 month ago
@flores50588 same thing
TimothyTedmanson 1 month ago
thats not kung fu. Well, let me correct myself, that's not a traditional stance
theWHIZKIDjOSh 1 month ago
@theWHIZKIDjOSh that's not even close to be kung fu. neither the stance, nor the techniques. Look at the flacid short of middle kick te guy pulled . Even the timing is wrong
ygustavo 1 month ago
catch wrestling is much better as proved by sakuraba.
modblogger1 1 month ago 2
@modblogger1 better are the artists, not the art. saku beaten the gracies, not gracie jiujitsu
nahuelfantino 3 weeks ago
@modblogger1
BJJ is much better as proved by Royce Gracie and Ralek Gracie...as well as many other Gracie Jiu Jitsu fighters.
SkemeKOS 3 weeks ago
That's some beautiful leg parries by Royce during the first 25 seconds or so! He looks almost like a Kung fu master himself, until he goes into the takedown. Seems maybe the Gracies are NOT so one-dimensional after all..
piaten 1 month ago
Fucking amazing!
surfyou76 1 month ago
I love it!
robertantwi 1 month ago
I find Bjj has a lot of weak points, a lot of exposed parts of the body to break/strike, especially the head. However this "Kung fu " fighter is not a kung fu fighter. It's just some bullshit.
dance2noise002 1 month ago
@dance2noise002 lol ok cool go challenge a bjj expert and prove it.
jon780 1 month ago
Bjj is good in the dojo not in real life!
judorican973 1 month ago
Royce and his expertise is poetry in motion.
KickingAssDaily 1 month ago
Nice
CreoleCassanova 1 month ago
@omarbakar why?
lsloewen2 1 month ago
@shotokanman1 prove your theory
lsloewen2 1 month ago
At 29 secs the kung fu fighter was elbowing the BJJ guy in the back... he would have won if he used full force at that precise moment.
mtto19892011 1 month ago
@mtto19892011 Are you joking, or are you seriously that deep in denial? You think the kung-fu guy lost because he was holding back?
He obviously wasn't, considering he later admitted he was beaten fair-in-square and then started training with the Gracies.
ThePinkMan 1 month ago
@ThePinkMan Dude the guy was elbowing him in the spine! just not hard enough lol.
mtto19892011 1 month ago
@mtto19892011 Ever try elbowing someone when you are pinned? It doesn't work too well.
Don't be stupid.
Krypteian 1 month ago
just strike to throat eyes groin and knee fast and slyly with control believe me i dont want to go fighting on concrete rocks etc or other obsticles which would damage the attacker or defender plus if you get attacked these days these bullies are in twos last place you want to be is on a concrete path doing ground workand his mate stepping on your head jujitsu was a battle field art with which you was both covered in bamboo armours going to ground wasnt a big problem you was protected
shotokanman1 1 month ago
This is a disgrace to martial arts.
omarbakar 1 month ago
BJJ is a useful skill to know, but I would by no means go about boasting of it's superiority to other martial arts. That's just pompous, ignorant, and unrealistic.
ZomBLord 1 month ago
Nomatter how good you are, you can still get knocked the fuck out by one lucky punch just as you rush in. Nobody is untouchable.
LackadaisicalE 2 months ago
In the ring this BJJ stuff is hard to match, which is too bad because it is boring as hell to watch, bordering a gay experience. In the street however, Smith & Wesson made all men equal.
LackadaisicalE 2 months ago
Yes Brazilian jujitsu is good for the ring, or a 1-1 fight on a padded floor, I have studied them all, I have used my skills on the street many times, partly my work and being at the wrong place at the wrong time, I have executed one kung fu move successfully, I am not a fan of kung fu, too much slappy....martial arts should also never be looked upon as a religion, I have never gone to the ground on the street either,if it lasts more than a few seconds you messed up somewhere.
adsabine1 2 months ago
Great tool for martial, arts, not the best form of martial arts though. Every martial arts have their worth, even kung fu, which is unfortunately ill represented here. I don't see how this guy is a kung fu master. No foot work, no arm work, no leg stances or structure. Looks more like some karate tagging tournament fighter...
wonphi 2 months ago 2
BRUCE LEE KICK ASS PERIOD! END OF STORY (:
NoeMiyu 2 months ago
@PumaDown those scenarios are fear based fantasies. Don't hang out in alleys in Detroit, don't go to jail, and don't pretend to know more about fighting than BJJ or MMA fighters
lsloewen2 2 months ago
lol Royce Gracie is just toying with this guy.
idontfkinknow1234 2 months ago
Anyone know what year this is? I'd be suprised if anyone would take the Gracie challenge against Royce after he won any UFC's, so I'm guessing it's before 93?
thunt1494 2 months ago
@thunt1494 It's sometime in the early 90's. The kung-fu guy here, Jason DeLucia, studied grappling after this and met Royce again in UFC 2.
ThePinkMan 2 months ago
come on guy, kung fu was there since few thousand ago and it apply during war time.Anybody think Kung Fu is just wasting time to train?
Moses79 2 months ago
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Doughty1988 2 months ago
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@Moses79 kung fu is useless. the only fighting styles that have been proven effective is boxing,kickboxing/muay thia, jiu jistu, and wrestling. you will never see a kung fu guy ko a pro boxer or kickboxer, or submit a bjj and wrestling guy.you get what im saying..
Doughty1988 2 months ago
@Moses79 Most definitely. On the ground, where most fights wind up, kung fu is virtually useless. And why do you still believe otherwise, even though this video clearly demonstrates this fact??? And why are there NO successful kung fu fighters in all of MMA? Why? Why? Why? I'll answer that: it's because it does not work, period. It would only have any effectiveness against one who was foolish enough to stand there as a stationary target, and allow themselves to take blows/strikes.
3TNT3 2 months ago
hey buddy l had street fight last week. guy threw left hook at me. shot in for double leg. big slam. gained side control. the guy was grabing my balls.and also tryed pokeing me in eye.while also trying to bite my ear. and it wasnt untill 2 big fucking knees to his head. he rolled over l took his back, and put choke on.guess what he was out in seconds. what you gonna do grap my balls till l die.if you think that shit works you aint had a fight with a hard bastard.
phil23809 2 months ago
The kung fu guy was scared from the get go...wtf are you kicking for his legs for?! Go for the face...knock him out.BJJ is good but it's over rated!
PumaDown 2 months ago
@PumaDown Really, overrated??? I'd love 2 C u put ur 'money' where ur mouth is, & go fight a similarly sized opponent who has about the same years of experience in BJJ, as u do in kung fu, record it, post it to YouTube, like Rorion has done here. U won't, b/c u will b 2 embarrassed 2 show the world how u got ur ass kicked. I can name hundreds of successful fighters in MMA whose primary background is in BJJ. I challenge u to name just ONE whose primary background is in kung fu. Just ONE!
3TNT3 2 months ago
@3TNT3 Like I said,it's good to know to supplement whatever stand up game you have,rather it's kung fu,karate,muay thai or whatever because from what I have seen from my research you're going to get clutched in a real fight no matter what you're stand up game is and bjj is good to have in your arsenal for that reason.However,I said it was over rated because some people think that a bjj practictioner can't get his ass kicked just because he/she knows bjj and I beg to differ!
PumaDown 2 months ago
@PumaDown Yes, well those "(some) people (who) think that a bjj pract. can't get his ass kicked just b/c he/she knows bjj" r just silly. Of course a bjj pract. can get their ass kicked. But, all things Bing = (speed, strength, skill, intelligence, etc.), a bjj pract. is going 2 win 90+% of the time. Obviously, the chances differ whenever all things r not relatively = (i.e. a NCAA Division I Championship wrestler at 205 lbs is going 2 most likely CRUSH a 170 lb novice bjj pract.).
3TNT3 2 months ago
I won't say kung fu is bullshit. It all depends on what you want out of your sport.
theGanj 2 months ago
Kung Fu is bullshido, sorry to tell you guys who have wasted your life on it, you have been robbed of your money and years of your life. lol
tfiraz 2 months ago
@tfiraz you dont know anything about martial arts , this kung fu "expert" is being hold back since he is fighting under rules , since kung fu was created to kill your opponent and not to simply knock him out
OmGhostable 2 months ago
@OmGhostable Exactly. Bruce Lee has even labeled a kung fu style as being the most effective for fighting more than more one person, and even stated one-time the kung fu fighters traveled to Thailand and actually won matches against the muay thai boxers. Considering they were fighting in the ring and that's not their nature, yet they still won some matches show how effective kung fu can be. Especially when a MMA teacher like Bruce Lee says it.
reptile202 2 months ago
@tfiraz There are limitations to Kung Fu and there are limitations to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Being a Multi-Dimensional fighter who learns realistic and effective techniques is far more important than what Martial Art you train in.
MysticNinjaJay 2 months ago
In real life situation if someone holds on to you on the ground, remmember theres no rules, you have to bite, scratch, break his fingers, spit in his eyes, do anything to survive.
bubbletea8888 2 months ago
@bubbletea8888 Exactly! I love Kung Fu and MMA but what a lot of these pro MMA guys don't realize is that if a guy gets me in a clutch and take me down...I'm gonna bite and grab balls....and guess what...it works! :)
PumaDown 2 months ago
@PumaDown Yeah, figures you would, you little girl. Only a PUSSY 'has' to resort to biting and grabbing balls. I'll bet you just looooove grabbing balls...and you probably love getting a handful of cock, too.....
3TNT3 2 months ago
@3TNT3 When you're in a real fight...when three or four guys rush you in down town Detroit and drag you in a alley to rob you or you get rushed in a prison shower...you do what you gotta do to survive.Those are situations where I could give less than a fuck about fighting "Honorable."Unlike you...I haven't had the good fortune of being able to practice my knowledge in backyard situations or in suburban school yard fights.Why do you mma/bjj practictioner always feel the need to put everybody down
PumaDown 2 months ago
@PumaDown Well yes, of course you do whatever you gotta do to survive when it is LIFE or DEATH. But you never indicated that you were talking about such situations. You made it sound like it was just an everyday fight you were referring to.
3TNT3 2 months ago
I'd like to hear Royce commentate on a BJJ fighter taking on 2-3 people at once. LOL bring it.
breakerd1 2 months ago
I know Abel from Street Fighter 4 is a fictional video game character but Just imagine how will Royce Gracie do against him if they were in a Grappling match.
NegativeFog 2 months ago
@notdrockok if your training a MA to kill someone, your not only a psychopath but your probably being misled. No one outside Navy SEALS need to know how to kill anyone, if you live in America you can easily go to jail for murdering even in self defense. Be real.
lsloewen2 3 months ago
0:45 sorry gracie, but if this were a life or death fight, he'd have snapped your neck like a twig. All you've proven is that BJJ was effective for this fight under these conditions.
notdrockok 3 months ago
@notdrockok Oh, damn, you're nooby as hell.
The hold Jason was trying to apply is called a guillotine choke. It's a standard technique in jiu-jitsu, and is designed to strangle rather than put torque on the spine. The only problem is Jason was in a poor position to finish the hold, and Royce was much more experienced than him anyway.
The same thing happens in this STREET fight between a BJJer and kung-fu teacher:
/watch?v=3_XKXOkpUVw
ThePinkMan 3 months ago
@ThePinkMan lol should think about about what the person's said in more depth before launching into personal attacks. It takes next to nothing to pop a spine. What makes these matches so ludicrous is neither of them is trying to outright kill the other. The effectiveness of an art, to me, is not about macho submission and domination, but how quickly and effectively you can kill the other person before they kill you. If your art saves your life, job done. All arts are valid.
notdrockok 3 months ago
@notdrockok So basically, you're saying the only way one can test his martial prowess is by engaging in a fight to the death? If that's the case, then how many people have you killed? And how many spines have you popped, if it's so easy?
ThePinkMan 3 months ago
@notdrockok Have you ever been in a triangle choke? It will kill you...
MsMarc1234 2 months ago
@notdrockok stop watching kill bill man its not real
puzzypirate 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
you have to train to do this, hope the guy does not hit you, if he comes at you go for his legs and if he backs up go for his legs and with no style or grace just smother him and hope to never let go, it's like wrestling when your a kid or fighting your older brother in the liveing room which im guessing gracie did alot of, saying its this style when all it is, do what ever to win and who cares if you look like a bitch, love it.
MegaDoggyBag 3 months ago
This is not jujutsu in the traditional sense as it was for combat. It is judo renamed. This is for sport, not for self-defense.
pedinkus 3 months ago
que buena pelea.
georgemrr 3 months ago
gay that was the gayest fight i have ever seen, what the fuck is he going to do when its 2vs 1 or 3 vs1 he cant do his gay assgrabbing then
xlilnetx 3 months ago
Great fight 1st time seeing it.. Royce is the man had the pleasure of meeting him :) Well fought by the other guy he did look very hard work but once again the fantastic knowledge of Bjj proved too much for the other guy ;)
Dunstenchecksin 3 months ago
No other art like Jiu-Jitsu shows how to fight on the ground thats why we always win -_-
Jonathanmaldonado72 3 months ago
@Jonathanmaldonado72 "always win", your martial art has lost on many occasions
DaTruthsHere 3 months ago
@DaTruthsHere and whats your martial art.
superhotdog101 3 months ago
@superhotdog101 Sanshou
DaTruthsHere 3 months ago
@DaTruthsHere never heard of it is it on the ground stand up or both?
superhotdog101 3 months ago